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The Damnable Heresy of Chrislam

posted by Donna Calvin

The Damnable Heresy of Chrislam

JUNE 25, 2011 BY  BIRN

There has been a lot of news lately about growing ties between various Christian churches and the Muslim faith. Tomorrow more than a few liberal churches are going to actually read the Quran in a positive light in Church services. It is of course being organized by a group with Soros ties. Earlier in the week evangelical preacher Jack Van Impe left Trinity Broadcast Network (TBN) because they refused to air a show in which he criticized Rick Warren for supporting Chrislam. I’m no fan of Van Impe generally but he’s spot on in opposing growing ties between the Christian faith and the Muslim faith.

Paul Crouch, TBN'$ "holy man"

Jan Crouch of TBN

Pretend Christian Preacher Rick Warren

It should disturb Christians when the church and church leaders want to increase ties between our faith and any other religious faith. This is true whether we’re talking about Jews, Muslims, Hindus or Earth worshipers. It isn’t a matter of hating those other religions or being cold to those who believe in them. It isn’t even a matter of being opposed to intellectual curiosity about those religions. I couldn’t care less if Christians want to learn about other religions, in fact I wholeheartedly support understanding other religions because it will help us convert their believers. However, what’s going on in these liberal churches and in Warren type churches isn’t intellectual curiosity, it goes well beyond that.

There is a worldwide effort to bring together the Christian, Jewish and Muslim faith into one religion. This is largely the playground of American and western Marxists who really want to see religion destroyed. Separate Christians from their historical faith and eventually the left knows they’ll be able to kill off the whole religion. (Absent divine protection, which of course Marxists don’t take into account) The progressive left has been successful at separating Americans from the founding of this country, it should come as no surprise that these people want to do the same thing to the Christian church.

Like it or not, the Christian and Muslim faiths are not the same. They do not worship the same God and they do not have the same origins. Islam may use portions of the Bible in the Quran but it was created 700 years after Christ. The portions of the Quran not found in the Bible have almost nothing in common with Christian scripture. This is the opposite of the New Testament and the Old Testament, wherein the New directly fulfills what the Old Testament, Jewish scriptures prophesy. That Christians would even pretend that the Islamic faith is similar is absurd.

But these leftists take it one step further. They don’t just claim similarity, they want to bring two opposite religions together to form one faith. Part of the problem is that many of these churches have already moved far left and have rejected the Christian faith. If there are any believers left in their pews, they need to get out before Islam is preached from the pulpit. Christians cannot worship both God and Mammon. We either worship Christ or we don’t. If we worship or hold up other books as equal with God’s Holy Bible, then we don’t worship Christ and cannot call ourselves Christians. These leftist churches essentially no longer worship the God of scripture.

Rick Warren is an influential pastor, even in the conservative evangelical community. It is clear this man is not a believer. He has for quite some time dumbed down the Christian faith in order to get hoards of people into his churches. Sadly his support for Chrislam exposes what he’s really here for. He is leading millions astray by rejecting the Christian faith. He’s dumbed down his churches to the point where the people there do not know proper Christian doctrine from heresy. Now he’s introducing Islam into his church and the people support it without knowing any better. He is a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

This isn’t a matter of hating Muslims or desiring violence against them. (the accusations of violence have always been absurd and not based on fact) It is a matter of protecting the Christian church from false doctrine. It’s a matter of protecting Christians from being led to a false religion. To be perfectly honest, Islam has very little to do with this issue. We could just as easily be talking about the Jewish faith, holding Sader’s in church or eating Kosher. The issue is protecting the Christian church from doctrinal error and protecting believers from doctrines not found in Christian scriptures. Religious pluralism leads to Hell and we in the church need to protect ourselves and our churches from the damnable heresy of Chrislam.

Source: http://stevenbirnspeaks.wordpress.com/2011/06/25/the-damnable-heresy-of-chrislam/

 



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Megan

posted July 22, 2013 at 8:03 am


Whilst I do agree that the Christian church needs to up its game in the area of knowing what it does and doesn’t stand for, I would be very, very wary of denying the belief of anyone. Whether Rick Warren is a true believer or not is between him and God and is not ours to decide. I agree, Christianity and Islam are diametrically opposed to each other and that there is no common ground, however you need to look to scripture. The Lord told us that these things would happen. Look in Revelation about the One World Faith – Religious Babylon. If Chrislam is all you claim it to be (and I have no reason to doubt you) then surely you are able to see it as the begining of the fulfilment of prophecy?
We, as a church of believers, need to educate ourselves as to what the Bible says and spend less time worrying about what man thinks. Yes, chrislam is a heresy, but whatever God has ordained will come to pass. We just need to be sure that we’ve shielded ourselves from all such heresies by being knowlegable about The Word and knowing our faith. Pointing them out to other believers is noble, but dragging Marxism into it is ridiculous and questioning anyones standing before God is dangerous ground.



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Cisco Wheeler

posted December 3, 2011 at 11:54 pm


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The spirit of YHVH has departed from most of the churches in America because of the spirit of apostasy. The whole of the word of God is a testament or will by the blood of the testator. The very character and ethos of the Holy Scripture is salvation by the precious blood of Yahshua Messiah. It is a crimson cord that traces its way from the beginning to the end through the Garden of Eden to the book of Revelations. To take away or tear down this eternal life force that is forever present in the living word of God is to destroy the Revelation knowledge of God through Yahshua Messiah. Christ’s shed blood and sacred death was sufficient for the sanctification from sin throughout the ages of time and it is the same yesterday, today and forever. The Bible repetitively speaks of God’s promise to preserve his word when he says, “Heaven and earth shall pass away but my words shall not pass away” (Matthew 24:35). “The grass withereth, the flowers fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand forever”

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Countless churches and Christian ministries across this nation are already infiltrated by the Illuminati, Satanists, cults, often by CIA and the intelligence community, spying on the faithful…even up to the PULPIT itself. Enemies of the true Gospel from many sectors of society and many hidden agendas have infiltrated, corrupted, deceived and even brainwashed many Christians in this desperate hour.

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Tammy

posted July 15, 2011 at 12:51 am


Between whole denominations turning away from Scripture and God and allowing actively homosexual ministers/pastors/priests and the blending of the major religions what we are seeing is the “great falling away” and the beginings of the one world religion. Looks like I need to stake my claim on a street corner and start making my “repent the end is near” sign. It would be funny if it wasn’t so true! No wonder so many fell for the guy who said the world would end on May 21st. Of course now it’s supposedly Oct. 21st but that’s niether here nor there. We won’t know the day or hour but I think we can presume it’s pretty darned close;)(Maybe that’s why I don’t seemed to be too worried about our lack of retirement savings, hmmmm….;))



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Ameriqual Apack MRE

posted July 14, 2011 at 1:35 am


The true believers who desire the truth with all their heart will not fall for the Chrislam deception. But then again, there are Christians who will allow themselves to be brainwashed by watching MSNBC and CNN and other arms of propaganda. Beware little ears what you hear for the Father up above is looking down in love but desires his children to be tuned into the truth and not brainwashed by rot spewing forth by the propaganda machine. Chrislam will not bring unity anymore than light can be united with darkness and both remain.



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Joe Clarke

posted July 13, 2011 at 7:06 pm


Christlamacist Reference From Tuesday, May 18, 2010
Rima Fakih First Christlamicist Miss USA – Like First Christlamicist President? From JoeClarke.Net

No doubt, Progressive PC did help engineer the election of the stunning Arabic beauty, Rima Fakih, from Dearbornistan (see DebbieSchlussel, one of Rush Limbaugh’s favorites), Michigan to Miss U.S.A.

The judges, including ultra flamboyant skater Johnny Weir and lib Office actor Oscar Nunez, who thought he could embarrass the more beautiful Miss Oklahoma contestant, were among the final judges who were, no doubt, nudged, to vote Diversity (Muslim-Arab American) in Sunday’s pageant.

Aside from Rima’s disqualifying “professional” pole dancing, I am more interested in her family’s Hamas-supporting background according to, again, Debbie Schlussel and other media.

Hezbollah sympathizer and billionaire Farouk Shami was reportedly (Jewish Interest Defense League) a sponsor of Ms Fakih, but more importantly he is known to be a Quaker-Muslim, or something in between, like a Barack Obama?

Wikipedia shows that, although her family are confessing Muslims, they celebrate Christmas and other Christian practices.?????????????

What I am getting to is that the little Catholic-trained school girl Rima may be as confused about her religion as a Barack Obama, and that collectively, all these multi-faith people are confusing everyone else.

I would like to give them all the benefit of the doubt, and just ascribe their paradoxical beliefs to their traveling on some sort of “spiritual journey.”

Has Islam become the new Christianity? Lord knows that the Lame Stream media would have it so, along with Obama’s entourage, including Judge Barbara Crabb (real name) who has decided that the National Day Of Prayer is unconstitutional. Not that long ago that Ted Turner accused Christians of being, “A religion for losers.” Franklin Graham banned from the Pentagon Prayer Breakfast, Mohave Veteran’s Memorial Cross banned, boxed, now stolen.

The Left is only elevating Islam, from the President’s refusing to recognize warring enemies of the U.S., to the Public Schools, to the fire departments which must furnish foot-baths for Moslems, in order to denigrate or lessen the significance of Christianity. Socialists want to lyingly prove that they are not anti religious by exalting a perverted brand of social justice through favoring anything Moslem. Besides that, they may be scared to death of those guys who pack bombs and wield very broad swords.

President Obama on a Stephanopoulos show: “You’re absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith,” Obama said, before being corrected by Stephanopoulos.” Barack Obama 2008.

Better sooner than later, these multi-faithed Bahai types of Christlamicists will decide to be one or another. God is not a God of confusion. President Obama has detached himself (thank God) from mainline liberal denominations as well as Jeremiah Wright, and he is studying Christianity with a younger Pentecostal minister Joshua DuBois. Barack will have to choose this day who he will serve. Jesus or Mohammad, but not both.

A good part of Dearbornistan’s Muslim community is not so happy about Rima’s unmoslemlike immodesty. Miss USA Fakih may have to decide to become a Christian and give up her Christlamicism, for no other reason than we Christians are more tolerant of women sliding up and down stripper poles. But why?

PS You Gay-Bishop-Ordaining Episcopalians will also have to decide Who you will serve.



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Donna Calvin

posted July 13, 2011 at 6:05 pm


Hey, truthteller1611, those are the mainstay of the religions tolerated here before I was recruited to blog here!



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truthteller1611

posted July 13, 2011 at 5:46 pm


CPH

How can you guarantee that there is no “liberal plot” to combine religions in America and then eliminate them?
You say “from where I’m sitting all religions are basically the same”. Your powers of observation astound me. Either you are blind, dumb, ignorant, part of the plot, or all of the mentioned.
If there is no plot, and freedom of religion is guaranteed.
What happened to prayer in schools?
Where are the 10 commandments?
Why is God being removed from the marketplace?
I could go on and on.

The only religions that will be tolerated will be Humanism, Atheism and the father of all lies Satanism.



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CPH

posted July 13, 2011 at 2:34 pm


Wow! Conspiracy theory much? Way to go blame liberals for all your problems. That’s really going to help build bridges and solve problems. I can guarantee you there is no “liberal plot” to combine religions in America and then eliminate them. We live in a pluralistic society with freedom of religion guaranteed by the constitution. It helps to know about eachother. Quite frankly from where I’m sitting all religions are basically the same. They have all evolved and changed over the millennia, as they should being human creations. God is in the details but most people never bother to look.



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gsw

posted July 13, 2011 at 6:36 am


C.S. Lewis warned of the dangers of listening to the ‘Tashlan’ group back in the last century. Perhaps one should make “The Last Battle” mandatory reading for all school children!

Of course as an atheist, I disbelieve in all gods (except maybe Thor), so I can quite impartially say: whether the two gods are the same or not, a theocracy is what we can best do without.



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Donna Calvin

posted July 12, 2011 at 2:37 pm


Thanks, Dave, for your comment. Hope you keep posting your wisdom because we sure have a lot of dumbed-down people who have been used to having their egos stroked by apostate Christians who are current and former old-time Beliefnet bloggers who swear they are Christians, but don’t even come close to qualifying as such. All Jesus has for these poor, Satan-deluded souls is [Matthew 7:23] And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. I’m doing all I can to reach them and doing all I can to post the Word so that their spirits can be pricked by the Holy Spirit to wake them up to Salvation in and under the Blood of Jesus Christ — and no other way — [Matthew 7:14] Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. — and the apostate blind have been the prevailing force here on Beliefnet for years!



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Dave

posted July 12, 2011 at 1:40 pm


If evangelical leaders can’t keep their flocks from going over to ‘heretical’ groups, it’s a problem they’ve brought on themselves by encouraging their church members to be dependent on them and completely dumbed down about the existence of government ‘Clergy Response Teams’, for example that teach their idiot pew warmers to ‘obey the government’ by misinterpreting Romans 13. If TBN is comprised of leaders who teach ‘heresy’ it’s because they they’ve been infiltrated by globalist minions that cater to those who are the most weak-minded and easily influenced sheeple on the planet! Evangelicalism has learned nothing in 2000 years and is no better than the authorized Early Roman Church that ruined the enlightened simplicity and beauty of Gospel by instituting a hierarchical dictatorship that required people to believe and do everything they are told to do without question. In so doing they replaced the hated Roman tyranny with yet another one – the church-state empire. Jesus never wanted people to be weak and easily influenced. He wanted them to be able to think for themselves and aspire to a better understanding of truth by allowing people to recognize their own G-d given strength to resist the negative influences of an out-of-control, power mad church state empire. If heresy is the order of the day, then so be it. The religious establishment has made their own demons by colluding with government. Now they’re going to have to live with them.



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Steven

posted July 12, 2011 at 12:12 pm


cmaglaughlin : I dare say you don’t agree with me 99.9%. Like it or not Rick Warren is a universialist. Not only is he associated with the Christlam movement but he’s also responsible for the dumbing down of the American church. Warren has a church growth model that, while successful in drawing crowds and making money, is responsible for taking scripture and theology out of the church. Warren’s ‘purpose driven life’ is a bunch of self help garbage. The prosperity gospel is a lie. The list of issues I take with Warren can go on and on.

So I dare say you lied when you said you agreed with 99.9% of what I had written. I think you, and many others, need to rethink what Rick Warren and other mega-church pastors have done to the Christian faith in this country. Many of these people don’t spread the gospel, they spread self help and dumbed down theology. We as Christians need to ask ourselves whether this is a good thing or not.



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cmaglaughlin

posted July 12, 2011 at 10:00 am


Steven Birn… 99.9 of everything you wrote I agree with. I, too, am sick and tired of the watering and dumbing down of the Body of Christ by so-called “elite and influential” evangelical leaders in the media. I’m even with you half way on Van Impe, due to his slobbering love affair with the Pope and catholic church. But when I read your comment concerning Warren…”It is clear this man is not a believer,”
I about fell off my chair! You not only “SHOT YOUR WAD” of credibility, but opened up another “can of worms” altogether. You, my brother, need to grow up, or SHUT UP! You’d be hard pressed to accomplish what Rick has achieved, so far, “FOR THE KINGDOM,” in a million lifetimes! Your pencil brain needs to be sharpened…BIG TIME! Ever hear of, “NOT seeing the forest for the trees”?



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Donna Calvin

posted July 12, 2011 at 9:03 am


Donna Calvin’s reply to evil comments: http://blog.beliefnet.com/watchwomanonthewall/?p=4143



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AP

posted July 12, 2011 at 4:30 am


This is the most unreal blog I have read in a long time. I mean that in the grossest way–is the author related to the idiot in Florida who wants to burn the Quran? I am an evangelical Christian and find it abominable that someone would write this dreck about pastors like Rick Warren. This only invites more hatred. We are not trying to be Muslim–we are trying to understand another person out of Christian love.

And yes, I wondered about the pink hair as well :)



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pcw

posted July 11, 2011 at 10:57 pm


I’ve seen that lady on TV a few times, what is up with that pink hair?



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