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John Allen reports. Nothing from today, but some tidbits:

Benedict listened attentively, and at the end of the day offered a brief summary of the discussion. The pope is known for his capacity to absorb information and synthesize it rapidly, and sources told NCR he was in good form Thursday.

"It was a tour de force," one cardinal said. "He never relied on translation, so he had been listening all day in five languages, and then offered a brilliant précis of all the important points."

Sources told NCR that on the subject of Islam, several cardinals touched on the need for greater emphasis on reciprocity — the idea that if Muslim immigrants to the West claim the benefit of religious freedom, the same should be true for Christian minorities in majority Islamic states.


"I think most of us felt that Islam represents a challenge to the church, and we need to reflect on how to respond," one cardinal told NCR.

In that regard, sources told NCR that the emerging line of Benedict XVI’s papacy on Islam, featuring more explicit challenges to Islamic leaders on terrorism and religious freedom, enjoys strong support in the College of Cardinals.

With regard to the Lefebvrite movement, sources said that a variety of opinions were expressed. Some cardinals were in favor of rapid movement towards reconciliation, including wider use of the pre-Vatican II Latin Mass, while others were concerned with the terms upon which reconciliation might occur. These cardinals stressed the importance that traditionalists accept the teaching of the Second Vatican Council (1962-65).


"There wasn’t any strong consensus," one cardinal said. "We’ll continue to study and review the situation, but I’m quite sure the pope is not going to issue a decree tomorrow."

The column also notes, at the end, that in June Allen will be relocating to New York – he will return to Rome regularly, but his base of operations will be in the U.S.

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posted March 24, 2006 at 2:19 pm

The pope’s interest in Islam is in itself interesting. I wonder if we.ll begin to see Catholic studies of the Koran and debates with Luxemburg’s own book. It’ll be interesting to see how the Vatican responds to dimmitude and Omar’s pact

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Mike Hayes

posted March 24, 2006 at 3:36 pm

New York welcomes John Allen with open arms. Hey John! Lunch is on me!

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posted March 24, 2006 at 4:24 pm

I would be happy if those Cardinals referred to would be able to accurately explain the Vatican II teaching they want the sspx’ers to accept. 😉

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Claude Muncey

posted March 24, 2006 at 7:07 pm

That’s simple tim: they would like the four bishops to accept Dignitatis Humanae and Nostra Aetate as written and passed by the Council, approved by Pope Paul VI and signed by Abp. Lefebvre himself. Nothing obscure or difficult about that at all. They could do it with four signatures on a document containing but one sentence. At this point, they seem to show no sign of being willing to do that.
Let’s not get distracted here: the liturgical issues are the easy ones to deal with.

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posted March 24, 2006 at 9:20 pm

The so-called “Uniate” clergy still teach that the Roman Church returned to Orthodoxy (after ~500 years of heresy and schism) in 1596. That is, they claim that the Romans were the real schismatics and the Pope became Orthodox again (a point made ad nauseam by a girl I dated). So why can’t the Lefebvrists just say the Church corrected herself in 2006? Sometimes it seems that historical truth is up for grabs in political Christendom…

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Charles A.

posted March 24, 2006 at 11:01 pm

1596? What specifically happened in 1596?

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Rocco Palmo

posted March 25, 2006 at 7:40 am

1596 = the Union of Brest, when what we now know as the Ukrainian Greek-Catholic church came into full communion with the Holy See….

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Kevin Miller

posted March 25, 2006 at 1:25 pm

“The so-called ‘Uniate’ clergy still teach that the Roman Church returned to Orthodoxy (after ~500 years of heresy and schism) in 1596.”
That’s silly. I’ve known plenty of Ukranian Catholics – and other Eastern Catholics – who think and say no such thing.

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