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posted by Tony Jones

Darren King weighs in on the post, Are Conservatives the Real Gnostics?:

Tony, I agree. And I’ve often thought about this in terms of how we
handle parts of scripture – such as the epistles of Paul. Rather than
seeing Paul as someone who, like us, was trying to make sense of new
revelation blended with old understanding – in a real-time, presentflux
kind of way, many conservative Christians – and even more specifically,
many conservative, charismatic Christians – read Paul as if he offers
some sort of pure, undiluted stream on “the spiritual world”. Now, not
only is the idea of “a spiritual world” hyper-dualistic – thus gnostic,
but so too is the idea that Paul had some kind of magical way of seeing
it all – as if he somehow bypassed the human condition and didn’t read
it all through a particular, contextually localized worldview.



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Tad DeLay

posted January 14, 2009 at 11:47 am


I’ve always thought of the correlate between the Gnosticism Paul writes against and our own today in terms of the moral predicaments mentioned. There were hyper-conservative gnostics who said one should be so heavenly minded that any physical pleasure was a sinful distraction, and there were gnostics with looser morals who saw the spiritual realm as so important that one could do anything you want with your body and it doesn’t eventually even matter.
Thank God that’s all over.



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