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This Is Why We Can’t Have Nice Things (Like Civil Discourse)

posted by Catherine Connors

I don’t care which side of the fence you’re on when it comes to health care reform in the U.S. or abortion rights in the U.S. or the place of either debate in the context of the other: shouting “baby killer” at anyone who doesn’t tow the hard pro-life line is stupid.

It’s stupid because it reduces the discussion to absurdities. It’s stupid because, in reducing the discussion to absurdities, it further precludes there being any possibility of reasonable, respectful discourse on matters pertaining to reproductive rights, freedoms and responsibilities. It’s stupid because it’s stupid.

Why can’t we all just speak nicely to one another? Discuss our differences of opinion without calling names? We demand it of our children – why do we not demand it of ourselves?



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Alfred

posted March 22, 2010 at 1:41 pm


It seems the author is unable to comprehend simple definitions. TRUTH is an absolute term, and not worthy of debate.



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posted March 22, 2010 at 4:16 pm


Alfred,
Care to comment on the “truth” behind the “niggers” and “faggots” slurs from your fellow Tea partiers?
Catherine is correct and you are wrong.



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peregrine

posted March 22, 2010 at 5:27 pm


Sadly civility is likely to remain absent from public discourse as long as reason and mindfulness are AWOL. They are not likely to return as long as people prefer to repeat the slogans and catchphrases of their favorite demagogues to the effort of thoughtful soul-searching and deliberation deliberation needed to make up one’s own mind.
It never ceases to amaze me that the same people who loudly proclaim themselves as being “pro-life” and accuse those who hold dissenting views of being “baby killers” are actually only in favor of protecting life in the first nine months following conception.
Being pro-health is a life-affirming stance. Taking the measures necessary to ensure that every child, teen, and adult doesn’t die from preventable disease or treatable injuries is also pro-life. Making sure that everyone, not just the fortunate few, has equal opportunity to live with a modicum of dignity is also a pro-life stance. Showing compassion to the poor is a scriptural mandate and pro-life. Being against capital punishment and unprovoked war is most assuredly pro-life.
Most pro-lifers I’ve had the misfortune to meet are only about protecting fetuses. Once you’ve emerged from the womb, you’re on your own, kid!



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Angie

posted March 22, 2010 at 7:45 pm


I have to whole heartedly agree with you here. It doesn’t matter what your opinion or side, the minute that you begin name calling and/or nastiness the discussion ends. Without discussion how can we learn something new. This is a major pet peeve of mine both in politics and in on line comments and chat venues. I am there for discussion not arguement.
Thank you for this statement



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posted March 27, 2010 at 11:15 am


To “Anonymous”: It’s wrong and doesn’t help any type of discussion when people stereotype certain groups for their beliefs. I don’t consider myself Republican, I consider myself a Conservative. I am not racist. I do not have any problems with homosexuals. I feel that a woman has the right to choose, but I do not feel that other people should have to pay for that choice. It bothers me to be stereotyped for my beliefs, when those stereotypes are clearly untrue, just as it bothers a lot of Democrats for being called lazy good for nothings who live off of welfare and cheat the system when it is not true about them.
The core issue to me seems to be that what so many people do not understand is the problem is not with the fact that there is a health care bill. We understand that something needs to be done. It is not that we do not value human life. The problem is the way that the government went about passing this bill, and how the government is taking too much control from the states. This country, this constitution, was based on the fact that the states would have power and the federal government was just there to tie it all together, with limited power so it would not turn into a huge government entity with total control. That is what this Tea Party is protesting, the takeover of our government and the total disregard for anything the Founding Fathers believed in and put into place for us.
I do not agree with the fact that some individuals are taking their anger much too far. This cannot be blamed on one party, however, but on radicals in both parties. It is happening on both sides and both sides of it should be addressed. Calling someone a baby killer for his or her beliefs is not okay. Calling someone a racist or homophobe or a Neo-Nazi for his or her beliefs is the same thing.
As Catherine said, we need to learn to speak nicely to each other and discuss our differences without calling each other names. This needs to be practiced by everyone, no matter their beliefs and no matter their political party.



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