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In Defense of Bloody Aborted Fetus Photos

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Advocates of abortion “common ground” seem to believe that reasonable debate would eschew infammatory tactics such as displaying huge photos of aborted fetuses (as we saw aplenty at the Notre Dame commencement).
But if you believe most abortions ought to be legal, you’re implicitly saying, it should be up to the woman to hear the debate and decide for herself.
The fetus photos are, in my view, an entirely legitimate form of argument. Instead of using the words, “abortion is killing something that’s a lot like a baby,” they’re using an image that shows a fetus that looks a lot like a baby.
The problem with the image is that pro-life activists combine these images with rhetoric declaring that any abortion is killing a “baby” to create the impression that all life within the womb is baby-like. (See, “Safe, Legal & Early“)
Rather than complaining about fetus photos, pro-choicers should offer a substantive visual rebuttal. Perhaps they could make a poster out of this image, a “baby” at four days of age.

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posted May 18, 2009 at 2:29 pm

And if they accuse pro-lifers of using fake abortion photos, they should provide real abortion photos, featuring the dismembered fetuses. Funny how they never do that.

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posted May 18, 2009 at 3:47 pm

Yes, and funny how the pictures always go away when the Republicans win the White House.

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posted May 18, 2009 at 6:10 pm

For those conservative Christians, RR groups and those anti-choice groups, it’s simply the normal philosophy that they always seem to follow, THE ENDS JUSTIFIES THE MEANS. Note, that this isn’t all Christians and there are plenty pro-choice Christians as well, it’s simply these specific groups that will do whatever it takes to have their rational/religious beliefs enshrined in law, at everyone else’s expense.
To me, it’s all about power and control, only they will have the power and control to say what is acceptable for everyone.
The abortion issue should be left up to the woman, who will decide for herself, if she will keep the child, give the child to an adoption agency or follow through with the abortion.
I find it interesting how these anti-choice groups seem to suggest that women have the right to do as they will, being a citizen, and all, but apparently think that there are some rights that same women shouldn’t have a say in.
Again, it’s all about power and control and saying what they think women shouldn’t have a right to decide for themselves.

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posted May 18, 2009 at 7:42 pm

Granted I’m no molecular biologist, Steve (Gerard, where are you?;-) but I’d have to think mytosis occurs much more rapidly than a cell a day. Pro-choicers are correct in not parading this kind of propaganda (not that some don’t lack the morals to do such).

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posted May 18, 2009 at 7:57 pm

I just saw you on pbs talking about the abortion issue. You said we may need policy for the middle ground and Obama need to be involve. Well in the house of representative, they are working on a policy that is in the middle. The rep from Connecticut is one of them. She and another rep is working on it now. They both was on msnbc Harball today talking about it. Obama faith base group is working on it now also.I found about that online 2 weeks ago. Why don’t reports get this type of information before they go on t.v.? It drives me crazy. I don’t want to know more than the reporter, I want to learn from them.
thanks Angela

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posted May 19, 2009 at 10:12 am

I don’t think it would make any sense for pro-choicers to respond with photos like the one you suggested. The pro-choice position is about the rights of the mother, not the value or viability of the fetus. If they were to say (or imply), “It’s OK to terminate a clump of cells,” they would be ceding the terms of the debate to the pro-life camp. (I say this as an observer of the abortion debate who doesn’t identify with either side.)

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posted May 19, 2009 at 12:10 pm

A more appropriate picture for pro-choicers would be pregnant women behind bars or strapped to gurneys.
I agree with Steven that the bloody fetus pictures clearly do have a place in the pro-life rhetorical arsenal and I actually do think it is a good idea to remind people what is really going on with abortion. And I’m pro-choice, but believe we shouldn’t kids ourselves about the horror that is abortion even while fighting to protect womens’ reproductive rights.

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posted April 6, 2011 at 10:41 am

reply to “The pro-choice position is about the rights of the mother, not the value or viability of the fetus.”

The pictures are more beneficial for people who are ignorant of the horror going on in abortion. It also has its place in the argument against a feminist, although, it might be less effective unless priorities are first set strait.
We must make it clear to those who support woman’s rights that OUR GOAL IS NOT TO ATTACK THE WOMAN, BUT TO DEFEND THE BABY.
If you look at the natural order of things, life comes before rights. In fact, rights were made to protect life and it doesn’t make sense for a country to create rights that infringe so much upon the rights of others that it takes the other’s life away.
As for women, Pro-lifers are pro-women, too! Abortion is the leading cause in pre-metaposal breast cancer. It causes depression, alcoholism, drug abuse, infertility, men taking advantage of no responsibility and about 50 more side effects negative to the woman, including a dead baby.
Pro-lifers try to establish the priority of life over rights, but we could still justify our stance by simply defending the mothers well-being.
Most women who have abortions are forced or “strongly encouraged” by boyfriends, parents, grandparents, or friends.
Let us then say that pro-lifers are against those who coerce women.

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posted April 7, 2011 at 3:17 pm

Exodus 21:22 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman’s husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.
21:23 And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,

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