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Condom Ads Target Catholics on World AIDS Day

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Planetwire.org, a website on family planning issues, reports:

Two new radio advertisements for condom use began to target Catholics in the U.S. Hispanic community here today, World AIDS Day, with the message that “good Catholics use condoms” to protect the people they love.

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John

posted December 1, 2008 at 7:46 pm


For any group to say that “good Catholics” use condoms(forbidden by the Catholic Church) is an outright lie and a virtual attack upon the Church. While one can appreciate differing beliefs among the faiths, it is disappointing to see such a misrepresentation appearing in Beliefnet which contains much that is good.



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pagansister

posted December 1, 2008 at 9:14 pm


EXCELLENT ads. I’m sure that Benny won’t be pleased and will tell the “faithful” that “good Catholics” abstain from sex until they marry, thus “no aids/HIV”. But then Benny isn’t a teen, nor (as far as we know) sexually active.
Glad to see that there are those making a point of helping the U.S. Hispanic community stop the spread of a horrible disease…which can be prevented. The RCC lives in a bubble, if they really think no one is going to have sex until they are married. Of course even if they are married, Catholic roulette is encouraged. The RCC isn’t worried about Aids I guess. The Italian Catholics do use birth control…and Benny lives there. They use their heads!
Good Catholics use condoms…prevents unwanted pregnancies, as well as abortions and the bonus…no STDs or Aids.



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nnmns

posted December 1, 2008 at 9:50 pm


“Good” can have different meanings. To be “good” as the Pope wants you to be is far different than being “good” to your mate, your children and the world. In the second sense, the important sense, Catholics for Choice has it right.



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Tom

posted December 2, 2008 at 12:15 am


For anyone interested in common complications and limited effectiveness from artificial birth control:
http://www.all.org/article_subject.php?subject=Birth%20Control
For anyone interested in natural family planning:
http://www.nfpandmore.org/
Sad to say that many Catholic couples are unaware of plausible alternatives to artificial birth control as there’s plenty of testimony from couples who are more enriched when switching from artificial methods to natural family planning. Those who are open to it and willing to put forth the extra effort may find it to be beneficial. More effective at preventing unwanted pregnancies!



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nnmns

posted December 2, 2008 at 12:46 am


Tom my wife and I used artificial birth control for some years and knew great numbers of other couples who did and I’m not aware of a complication; no doubt there are a few but to call them “common” is a lie.
And if “natural” family planning worked more families would be using it and the Pope would probably oppose it.



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Steve

posted December 2, 2008 at 1:05 am


Good Catholics are supposed to reserve sex for the marriage bed. How often do people forgo condom use if the heat of the moment is inconvienced by the absence of a ready for the moment comdom.



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NightLad

posted December 2, 2008 at 8:06 am


Tom:
Condoms don’t just prevent pregnancies.
In many parts of the world, HIV/AIDS is so prevalent that 80% of the population is infected. One of my family members was highbred to go to one of these countries to teach sex-education to the children, so they could pass the information on to the next generation, since nearly everybody over the age of 16 was HIV+.
Yet the RCC sends missionaries to these same countries, where they burn condoms and preach that they are evil.
People have sex for more than just making babies. Although I’d hasten to mention that no shortage of babies are created through the act. So many, in fact, that the Foster-Care facilities in America are nearly ready to burst with millions of parentless children.
But even as I type this, I know that you and your ilk will reply with a smug grin, “Well, if people just had sex after getting married, that wouldn’t happen.”
Please, rip off your blinders.
Married couples can/do pass STDs to their partners. Most married couples cannot afford to pop-out kids until they drop. Many married couples may not want a dozen or more children.
Birth Control serves far more purposes than just stopping sperm from meeting egg… despite what the RCC would like you to think.
I’m glad these ads are being run, because Catholic youth need a wake-up call.
While we are quoting statistics, I’d point you to the Yale/Harvard joint study “After the Promise”, published in the Journal of Adolescent Health, which proves that “abstinence pledges” by youth do not work. To summarize: 2 groups of youth were traced, one had made abstinence pledges while the other had not. After repeated testing (including urine samples) the study found that the rate of STD infection was equal between both groups.
Study: http://www.yale.edu/ciqle/PUBLICATIONS/AfterThePromise.pdf
Ignorance is not bliss.



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nnmns

posted December 2, 2008 at 8:58 am


Nightlad, great post. Long time no see.



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Tom

posted December 2, 2008 at 7:21 pm


‘In many parts of the world, HIV/AIDS is so prevalent that 80% of the population is infected.’
Could you name one? Did read the study from the link you posted at Yale; rather interesting.
‘…and I’m not aware of a complication; no doubt there are a few but to call them “common” is a lie.’
From the all link I posted earlier:
The risk of cervical cancer increased with duration of pill use compared to non-users. For pill users not infected with HPV: The risk of cervical cancer increased by 10% for pill use of less than 5 years. The risk increased by 60% for pill use of between 5-9 years. The risk increased by 120% for all women using the pill for more than 10 years. For pill users who were infected with the human papilloma virus (HPV), the increased risk of cervical cancer was also linked to the duration of use of the pill. The risk decreased by 10% for pill use of less than 5 years The risk increased by 30% for pill use of 5-9 years The risk increased by 150% for all women using the pill for more than 10 years.
5 ‘common’ complications linked with oral contraceptive use: increased incidence of sexually transmitted diseases, pelvic inflammatory disease, infertility, cervical and breast cancer, and ectopic pregnancy.
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/321/7258/450
Merely because one doesn’t typically atribute these complications to oral contraception doesn’t mean it isn’t so. Probably doesn’t make for polite dinner conversation. I guess it depends on what you consider ‘common’ nmnns. If you want to be technical, one could say the incidence of health complications greatly increases with prolonged regular use of oral contraceptives, a proven fact that pharmaceutical companies are not going to emphasize heavily.
PS NFP is effective and this is why the Papacy and Magesterium approve of it. Many aren’t aware of it which is why I posted the link.



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nnmns

posted December 2, 2008 at 8:01 pm


As I understand it the dangers due to pregnancy far outweigh those due to any contraceptive use. Funny the RCC doesn’t talk about the dangers of pregnancy.
Oh, and I thought their objections to contraception were religious but you are talking about medical problems.



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Tom

posted December 2, 2008 at 10:29 pm


‘Funny the RCC doesn’t talk about the dangers of pregnancy.’
These risks are brought to light more than adequately by medical proffesionals.
‘Oh, and I thought their objections to contraception were religious but you are talking about medical problems.’
Sometimes (more often than not) the two go hand in hand, nmnns. Glad you brought religion into the frey as you can’t seem to help yourself. Here’s another little tidbit you might find interesting as a man of science:
http://www.afterabortion.org/news/GisslerAJOG.htm



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nnmns

posted December 3, 2008 at 8:35 am


Oh, so religion changes as scientists learn more? Then when does the Pope announce there’s no sign of a Christian god anywhere in science?
As for your link it demonstrates that neither abortion nor pregnancy are things to enter lightly so alternatives, such as effective contraception, should always be available. Which is what the adds support.



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nnmns

posted December 3, 2008 at 8:46 am


I meant to add that since early abortions are surely safer than later ones, abortion should be available without delay to those who decide they need it.



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pagansister

posted December 3, 2008 at 9:06 pm


Tom,
As much as you would like to think artificial birth control is dangerous, so is life itself. If a woman has the risk factors that are mentioned in the warnings on the pill, or IUD’s etc., then she can decide if she wants to take them or use it. However those don’t stop STD’s or Aids. You have attempted to sell the Catholic Roulette method. Personally, I wouldn’t want to take the chance on an unplanned pregnancy, and not being Catholic, I didn’t take that chance. 2 kids spaced just like we wanted and a husband who loved me enough to take himself out of the gene pool…life is good. More power to the RCC women who must watch a calendar to decide when to have sex! I have many Catholic friends…and they don’t have a ton of kids…and I can be pretty sure that they aren’t celibate. The most my friends have…4 and that is only one of them. 1-3 is the norm. They wanted to be able to feed, clothe and provide an advanced education for their kids. You’re telling me that Catholic Roulette is reliable?
The more education the Hispanic population (and others) about condoms the better.
Oh, if indeed artificial birth control methods like the pill etc. are dangerous, then a condom is the safest..serves to prevent pregnancy AND STD’s and thus less abortions…thus making the RCC REALLY happy!



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Your Name

posted December 15, 2008 at 10:24 am


I’ll never forget the World (Catholic) Youth rally held in Toronto. A group of Australian Catholic ‘youth’ were being interviewed about their plans for after the worship services. Turns out their plan was to go to clubs to meet some girls to hook up with and get laid. “Don’t worry, we’ll be using condoms.”
Nevermind the ‘sin’ of pre- (extra-) marital sex (with a stranger, no less, something we’re led to believe only the kweers do!), they were apparently totally cluelesss about their Church’s teachings on artificial birth control.
Ah youth, eh?



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