Science and the Sacred

Science and the Sacred

We’re Moving


Science & the Sacred is moving to our new home on The BioLogos Foundation’s Web site. Be sure to visit and bookmark our new location to stay up to date with the latest blogs from Karl Giberson, Darrel Falk, Pete Enns, and our various guests in the science-religion dialogue. We’re inaugurating our new site with today’s guest feature by Gordon J. Glover: “Crabby Christians or Nebulous Data?”. We hope to see you there!


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posted December 11, 2009 at 9:13 am

That’s good news because the current blog software leaves a lot to be desired. Hopefully we’ll get user registration, post previews, post editing, etc.

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posted December 12, 2009 at 8:35 am

Good for you, but bad for Beliefnet. They’re loosing a lot of good content lately.

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posted December 12, 2009 at 8:46 am

Typos grr argh. Loosing should be losing.

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Albert the Abstainer

posted December 14, 2009 at 12:42 am

Ah Knockgoats, perhaps you will be persuaded to say something on this occasion.
As for me: While I have enjoyed the Biologos blog here at B-net; it has probably grown a little long in the tooth. Taking it to a dedicated site probably makes sense. It is unfortunate that things have fallen off the rails a bit recently, but blogs go through cycles, like the seasons.
The one thing that the presence on B-net did provide was a place to discuss what is fundamentally difficult: How can an evangelical keep what they regard as the core of their tradition and accept the findings of science and especially with regard to evolution? This will be an ongoing challenge, where the ground of belief falls layer by layer factually.
Can faith exist without the tenets of belief?
I think and feel that the answer to that is yes. It requires transcending the need for a frame around what is inherently frameless.
If the creation of projected idols labelled “God” is idolatrous, and that is what framing what is inherently infinite within finite bounds is, they belief must inevitably be set aside. The faithful are not bound to belief, their faith is in that which cannot be framed.
Therefore St. Augustine says: “The finest thing that we can say of God is to be silent concerning him from the wisdom of inner riches.” Be silent therefore, and do not chatter about God, for by chattering about him, you tell lies and commit a sin. If you wish to be perfect and without sin, then do not prattle about God. Also you should not wish to understand anything about God, for God is beyond all understanding. A master says: “If I had a God that I could understand, I would not regard him as God.” If you understand anything about him, then he is not in it, and by understanding something of him, you fall into ignorance.”
–Meister Eckhart
And there it is in a nutshell: Relinquishment and humility are key. Belief is an impediment when it creates the illusion of understanding for the sake of a fearful identity. Better to set aside belief and with it the neurotic projections. Let there be faith, but let it not be in projected images born of fear of hell and hope of heaven.

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posted December 16, 2009 at 6:45 am

Let there be faith, but let it not be in projected images born of fear of hell and hope of heaven.
– Albert the Abstainer
December 14, 2009 12:42 AM
And with that finally position of Al’s, Jesus, called Christ, can be erased from importance.
It’ll be interesting to the future of Al’s Christianity without Jesus.

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