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Clinton: “Obama Is Just Like Jesse Jackson”

posted by Susan Johnson

Everyone said that he would do it, that he would minimize a win in SC by making Obama the “black” candidate and he actually did it:

Said Bill Clinton today in Columbia, SC: “Jesse Jackson won South Carolina in ’84 and ’88. Jackson ran a good campaign. And Obama ran a good campaign here.”This was in response to a question about Obama saying it “took two people to beat him.” Jackson had not been mentioned.

Unbelievable! He has no shame!(via)Update: Here’s the video:(via)



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Mark

posted January 26, 2008 at 11:31 pm


Hmmmmm. That’s what Limbaugh said he’d do. Seems Clinton’s predictable. While one party accuses the other one of being racist, thier standard bearer plays the race card… Negatively, too.



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Brian Horan

posted January 27, 2008 at 1:24 am


I agree with Mark’s post. I’m disillusioned at seeing the Clintons (emphasis on both: as Maureen Dowd pointed out in the NY Times, Hillary’s a strange feminist to be using her hubby like she is) campaign as if they were Republicans.
I read Bill’s autobiography when I lived overseas; but now I think I could’ve just as well read Tom Cruise’s biography.
I think our country needs to unite. I think most reasonable independents and Democrats are tired of Washington politics (perhaps some Republicans too: I think I’d vote for Ron Paul over Hillary because he knows going to war with Iran will bankrupt the country).
If Bill and Hillary could divide the country the way they tried to divide S.C. with gender and race, it’s gonna be worse than the political drama of the 90s.
As far as Limbaugh though, he’s been busted for drugs. He actually came back from the Caribbean, after the pain-killer bust, with a bottle of Viagra that wasn’t prescribed to him (according to media reports). One can only wonder what Mr. Limbaugh was chasing down South. It doesn’t sound like good clean Evangelical fun.
Heck, let’s get rid of all the 90s clowns. Bill, Hillary, and Rush deserve each other.
In defense of Bill: Bush is the closest thing we’ve had to fascism. Saying you’re either with us, or against us (as a nation) is text-book fascist rhetoric. I’ll take a Clinton over a Bush (How many dead and wounded soldiers now for lies?)
Then again Hillary’s ready to green light an Iran invasion with her votes.



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Bungler OOPS

posted January 27, 2008 at 5:01 am


Obama thinks he is Lincoln, MLK, JFK and Reagan. Now Obama and the race baiters are ashamed of Jesse Jackson. Why. I think the real racist are Obama and his supporters to go looking for racism in every word anybody makes. What about the racist statement Obama made about saying I want to see Clinton dance before he is a brother. Or calling white man Clinton a black president. Now thats racist to. Grow up blacks or you will always be sports players dependent on Affirmative Action. Elections don’t mean nothing/ Lobbyist will always run things. Ask Rezko



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Donne Meers

posted January 27, 2008 at 5:18 am


For anybody to really think the Clintons are racist are truly race baiters. What are you stupid. Clintons are far from racist. Why turn on one the most supportive persons of minorities in the country and label her a racist.



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Michele McGinty

posted January 27, 2008 at 7:56 am


Because the Clintons keep bringing up race. Everyone said he would minimize Obama’s win by making it about race and he did, not even subtly.
“Most supportive persons of minorities” Name two things he did for blacks while in office.
Brian, you’re not going to have to take a Bush over a Clinton, that’s not the option. You guys have to decide if you really want a leader who divide the America people the way she is trying to do. If you vote for her in the fall, you deserve the leader you get.



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Guy Thomas

posted January 27, 2008 at 10:23 am


Posted by: Brian Horan | January 27, 2008 1:24 AM
I agree with Mark’s post. I’m disillusioned at seeing the Clintons (emphasis on both: as Maureen Dowd pointed out in the NY Times, Hillary’s a strange feminist to be using her hubby like she is) campaign as if they were Republicans
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Of course there is no such thing as a woman actually being able to fulfill the liberal definition (is there any other?) of a feminist since it involves contradictory ideology and behavior. So when such realities are exposed to the degree they are with Hillary, one is forced to either be a fool and deny the gross hypocrisies of feminism or admit to its grotesqueness.
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Posted by: Brian Horan | January 27, 2008 1:24 AM
As far as Limbaugh though, he’s been busted for drugs. He actually came back from the Caribbean, after the pain-killer bust, with a bottle of Viagra that wasn’t prescribed to him (according to media reports). One can only wonder what Mr. Limbaugh was chasing down South. It doesn’t sound like good clean Evangelical fun
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The problem with pointing to Rush Limbaugh’s personal failures is it that while it self-serves the commentator (that would be you) to point it out, it is an ad hominem approach which avoids the issue at hand. If the character of Rush Limbaugh is the topic, fine, but that isn’t the topic and only reveals your wish to avoid legitimate observations by Limbaugh. Finally, why people carry Viagra is their business. Your suggestion and implication that it be viewed in a condemning context without the facts reflects the very form of accusatory and extreme prejudice you claim to lament now being practiced by the Clintons.
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Posted by: Brian Horan | January 27, 2008 1:24 AM
In defense of Bill: Bush is the closest thing we’ve had to fascism
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You sound like a child parroting some liberal clown and now imagine you’re clever and informed with ostentatious claims such as Bush being close to fascism. While Bush created the monstrosity called The Department of Homeland Security, and while he is mediocre at best and certainly turned out to be an illusion for Republicans, when you have the chance to live under fascism, genuine fascism, neither Bush or Clinton will remotely remind you of genuine fascists. Until then, though, (and unfortunately) you are still on an ideological playground.



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anonymous reincarnate

posted January 28, 2008 at 6:04 am


guy,
first of all, mr. horan has every right to comment on the character of limpaugh, since mark invoked the name and used it as if that lends some extra iota of legitimacy. if limpbaugh is going to be used as a character witness against anyone, his own character also deserves to be questioned! this is not a ad hominem, but more like “who gives a rip what limpaugh thinks, when he himself is of the lowest moral quality?” we’re all quite tired of having the likes of that loser tell us what to think of others. we can judge for ourselves, thank you very much.
secondly, are we to assume that you have in fact lived under fascism, genuine fascism, such that you are more qualified than mr. horan to understand the evils of fascist leaders? you should argue instead how some other u.s. president is more fascist than bush if you care to debate mr. horan, since what he said was that “Bush is the closest thing we’ve had to fascism.”



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Michele McGinty

posted January 28, 2008 at 11:53 am


How about when Clinton signed a law taking away our right to own certain guns they deemed unacceptable?



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anonymous reincarnate

posted January 28, 2008 at 9:15 pm


now that’s the right spirit… but if you’re suggesting that the liberal president clinton is fascist, i think that you may want to go back to world history 101 and research fascism more closely. :-)



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Michele McGinty

posted January 28, 2008 at 11:42 pm


Um…maybe you should or at least read Goldberg’s book.



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anonymous reincarnate

posted January 30, 2008 at 12:56 am


you mean goldberg’s attempt to redefine fascism in order to deflect that label from rightists? his attempt to rewrite history and recast liberals as fascists by coining the term “liberal fascism” is as pathetic as the discovery institute trying to redefine science by coining the term “intelligent design” and crying “teach the controversy”. yes, i thumbed through his book and found it laughable. i did come to the conclusion that either he truly believes what he writes, or he hopes to at least convince a few that what he writes has merit. he ignores the basic tenants of fascism known to all throughout history.
the fact that goldberg writes for the nro says a lot (and it’s not flattering). he’s not a historian and it shows. he’s a political hack and little more.



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