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A Jewish Perspective on Palin

posted by Leonard Fein

“A grand slam home run,” the commentators agreed.  More like a foul — a
very foul — ball to me.

The subject is, of course, Sarah Palin, whose not-yet week-old candidacy
for Vice President of the United States has sucked up so much oxygen
these last days.  The reflections that follow were composed on day two
of that candidacy — before we learned of the truncated vetting process,
before we learned of the daughter’s non-abstinence, before we learned,
as we did in her maiden speech last night, just how sloganeeringly
mean-spirited she can be, this pit bull with lipstick.  The wonder — of
Palin and Guliani and Huckabee and Romney — is two-fold.  A whole
evening, and not only no word, not a single word, re Bush/Cheney, but a
failure to note that for the last eight years, it has been their White
House, for six of  those eight years, their House of Representatives,
for five of those eight years, their Senate.  How can you run against
Washington when it’s been your town?

Here;’s how: These people — and Palin in particular — are running
against the sustaining myths of the cultural right.  They are running
against pornography and promiscuity and crime, against “European ideas,”
against community organizing, against welfare, against the left-wing
media, against the elites, against “cosmpolitanism.”  They present
themselves as the embattled minority, sounding thereby more like Nixon
and Reagan than like either Bush, much less Cheney.  And the reason they
see themselves as the embattled minority is that that is in fact who and
what they are.  Time is not on their side.  They feel themselves
beleaguered, and that is because they are. Truth is, they’ve not been
treated well, neither by history nor by the cultural elites.  But that’s another matter,  Here, some reflections from a Jewish perspective.

But where does she stand on Israel?

The question, of course, is directed at John McCain’s featherweight
choice for Vice-President of the United States.  Please note well: This
is neither an endorsement of Governor Palin nor a refutation of her
candidacy. 

No, my concern here is with noting how fatuous it is to begin an inquiry
into a candidate’s readiness for such high office with the Israel
question.   It is also a reflection on political anorexia.
Political anorexia?  “On The Issues” is as comprehensive a compendium of
the views of candidates as we have.  (See http://ontheissues.org.)  If
you want to know what Governor Palin really thinks about the great
issues facing our nation, it’s a terrific place to browse.  And here is
what you will learn:

On foreign policy: “No issue stance yet recorded by OnTheIssues.org.” On
homeland security: “No issue stance yet recorded.”  On free trade, on
government reform, on immigration, on drugs: “No issue stance yet
recorded.”  On jobs, on families and children, on principles and values,
on technology: “No issue stance yet recorded.”  On war and peace, on
welfare and poverty: “No issue stance yet recorded.”  (These may no
longer be entirely accurate; in the days since her selection, Palin’s
web site has begun to be fleshed out.)

Now I do not want to exaggerate here.  The Governor is not a blank
slate, not at all.  She has positions on a number of issues.  For
example, as quoted in both the Juneau Empire and the Anchorage Daily
News, she is opposed to all abortion, even in cases of rape or incest.
On teaching creationism and intelligent design, her position is “Teach
both. You know, don’t be afraid of information.  Healthy debate is so
important and it’s so valuable in our schools. I am a proponent of
teaching both.  And, you know, I say this, too, as the daughter of a
science teacher. Growing up with being so privileged and blessed to be
given a lot of information on, on both sides of the subject –
creationism and evolution.  It’s been a healthy foundation for me. But
don’t be afraid of information and let kids debate both sides.”
No to stem cell research, no to civil rights for gay couples, no to gun
control  (including praise for the Supreme Court?s 5-4 decision to
overturn Washington, D.C.’s ban on handguns), yes to the death penalty;
she believes “that health care must be market-and business-driven,
rather than restricted by government;” a year ago, soon after visiting
Alaska National Guard troops in Kuwait, her press office released the
following statement: “Governor Sarah Palin today informed Alaska
National Guardsmen and women serving in combat that big game hunting
opportunities will be available when they return from combat zones this
fall.”

And so forth.

Still, she’s a woman, and that counts for something.  Think of Margaret
Thatcher, of Golda Meir, of Indira Gandhi, of Angela Merkel, of Aun Sung
Suu Kyi, of Mary Robinson.  Can’t you see Sarah Palin joining that
august sorority after four years of on-the-job training – or sooner, if,
heaven forbid, need be?

We all know about that hypothetical 3 A.M. call that Hillary Clinton
used to such good effect during the primary season.  Surely it’s fair to
ask the less melodramatic question, not at all hypothetical: How
comfortable will you be knowing it’s Vice President Palin sitting at the
side of the president at 3 P.M. when disaster strikes, crisis erupts,
tragedy befalls us?   And who would you prefer take the awesome call
when the president himself is indisposed?

Enough of that.  I know what you’re waiting for.  You’re waiting to
learn where she does stand on Israel.  Even if it isn’t the first
question that comes to mind, it’s not entirely trivial.  So let me be
perfectly clear.  I do not for second accept the rumors of Palin’s
association with Islamic terrorism.  The slender fact that if you spell
“Alaska” half-backwards you come up with Al Aksa, the name of Islam’s
third most holy shrine, right there on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, is
surely inadequate as evidence of such an association.  True, there are
those who say that her biography is simply too spotless to be credible,
that she must therefore  be part of a sinister sleeper cell.  While the
absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, the FBI vetting process
is reliable, no?  Conspiratorial thinking is neither appropriate nor
helpful.   So scotch the rumors; do not pass them on.

Instead, pay attention to what Jewish sources and friends of Israel in
the United States told Israel’s YNet just the other day – that “the
Alaska governor has maintained very warm relations with the small Jewish
community in the state, which comprises roughly 4000 people.”  Moreover,
and this one’s the killer, “Palin [has] met with Israeli Foreign
Ministry official David Akov, who served as Israel’s Consul General for
the Pacific Northwest Region.  During the meeting, the two discussed
cooperation between Israel and Alaska on various issues, such as
counter-terrorism efforts. Akov invited Palin to visit Israel and the
governor expressed her desire to do so. She also reportedly told Akov
that “‘Alaska’s residents love Israel.’”

Awesome.

And one more thing, almost delicious. “The winter sky of Alaska is a
Talmud of gray, an inexhaustible commentary on a Torah of rain clouds

and dying light,” Michael Chabon writes in his The Yiddish Policemen’s
Union, so brilliantly set in Alaska, so idiosyncratic.  Oh to know what,
if anything, Sarah Palin took away from Chabon’s book (soon to be a
motion picture by the Coen brothers).  What can a devout Christian
understand of the chaos of Chabon’s imagined universe?  Or, perhaps,
what does a native Alaskan get that remains alien to those of us so
decisively non-Alaskan?



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Reaganite in NYC

posted September 4, 2008 at 11:55 am


Leonard Fein definitely needs a good editor. Who’s got time to wade through this rambling essay to determine the core message? This posting was a mob of words in search of a target.
Two things struck me, however. What’s with the phrase, “those of us so decisively non-Alaskan.” What’s to be decisive about? You weren’t born there and perhaps never lived there. Saying you are “decisively non-Alaskan” sounds like a gratuitous put down of these people.
Speaking of gratuitous put-downs, why be snarky and write this:
“Moreover, and this one’s the killer, ‘Palin [has] met with Israeli Foreign Ministry official David Akov, who served as Israel’s Consul General for the Pacific Northwest Region. During the meeting, the two discussed cooperation between Israel and Alaska on various issues, such as counter-terrorism efforts. Akov invited Palin to visit Israel and the governor expressed her desire to do so. She also reportedly told Akov that “Alaska’s residents love Israel.” ‘
Awesome.”
Why begrudge Sara Palin her small-town enthusiasm for Israel? OK, she’s not from New York City and maybe she’s never been to Israel or, for that matter, to a seder. But she took the time to meet with the consular official.
You also brought up a number of goofy rumors and potential but brainless conspiracy theories (Alaska spelled backwards; sleeper cell; etc.) involving Palin but then covered yourself by saying: “So scotch the rumors; do not pass them on.” Well, here’s my advice to you: “Don’t create these rumors in the first place and then disengenously pretend to distance yourself from them.”
As the widowed Jewish great-grandmother in my apartment building likes to tell the kids: “be nice.” Her advice applies to you. Leonard Fein: “be nice.”



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James

posted September 4, 2008 at 12:15 pm


“Be nice,” eh? You need to pass that little aphorism along to Gov. Palin too, methinks.



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Non-Democrat

posted September 4, 2008 at 1:13 pm


This is a “progressive” blog. That means you are anti-Palin. This is a Democrat promo service. Why even hint otherwise?



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Rob

posted September 4, 2008 at 1:35 pm


I was totally unaware of any rumored association of Sarah Palin to Islamic terrorism until you mentioned it here. Just as it was absurd of the other side to cast its aspersions on Obama, it is was craftless of you to write this long, very long, really, really, really long piece just to recite one little bit of baseless slander.



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Alina Press

posted September 5, 2008 at 10:14 am


Sarah Palin is a breath of fresh air, an oasis in the dessert of good-old-boy, backslapping, hypocritical Clintonian politics.
The truly important question ought to be: “Do you know enough about Barack Obama to cast an informed vote?” Do we know enough about his association with George Soros, William Ayers, Father Michael Pfleger, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Frank Marshal Davis, Antoin Rezko, and his underhanded dealings in the Chicago political machine? Do we know enough about his political ideology beyond the mantra of “change,” and the certainty that he is a socialist who will raise our taxes to pay for new government programs? Who is behind his meteoric rise in the political ladder? Is he a puppet of the radical left? Why has he been endorsed by the Castro Brothers, Hugo Chavez, Hamas, the PLO, and many other unsavory terrorists throughout the world? So many questions, so little time. When this country comes out of the collective hypnosis perpetrated by the media and the “powers that be,” we will resemble more a communist country than a free Democratic Republic.
I urge all of you, Jews and non-Jews, to read the following eye-opening article:
http://www.cashill.com/natl_general/mansourian_candidate.htm



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peter

posted September 5, 2008 at 10:17 am


I can understand some misgivings about Palin as a VP (remote state, limited experience, clear stands on divisive issues, etc.). I find it amusing for McCain to be accused of poor vetting, which may ultimately prove to be true, and for writers, commentators, bloggers and people on the street to have already come to firm and complete (and visceral and often nasty) opinions about Palin as a person. If McCain didn’t know enough, how do we?
About Palin and Israel, if that really was the basis for the piece, then you have to be kidding. Your progressive political outlook is clashing with your foreign policy necessity. You might favor Obama and Biden’s worldview, but with one huge exception – they won’t be very good friends of Israel. Just take them at their word and make your choice based on what you value more.



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David Rosenthal

posted September 5, 2008 at 10:36 am


This is not a Jewish perspective. This slanderous opinion belongs to this author.
Clearly, this author has not his homework on Obama and Biden and their position on Israel and other Jewish issues.
Obama has no record, and Biden has one–he has consistently made wrong decisions.
Fact is McCain and Palin have a strong record and credentials on which to lead this nation.
Classic Democrat tactics is if you can’t win on the issues, use the politics of personal destruction to destroy the other side.



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Karen

posted September 5, 2008 at 10:41 am


I am wondering as this article rips Palin apart, why not put her along side Biden and Obama for that matter, she has more experience in Foreign affairs and more experience period then Obama, and talk about mean, and Biden takes that prize hands down. After all of the mean spirited words that Biden and Obama use to berate McCain, I think it is so hypocrital that everyone beats up on the first person that speaks out about Obama and his politics, because if he gets elected he will start negotiating with the very people that hate Israel and the US for their affiliation with Israel so watch what you wish for, we will see.



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Steve Trosty

posted September 5, 2008 at 10:41 am


This is the most informative, well researched, and well reasoned assessment of Sarah Palin that I have seen. Rather than dealing with platitudes about her, rahter than spending time telling us why we are being unfair to her, it clearly sets forth the truth of her lack of knowledge on almost all of the important issues of the day. It uses facts to tell us what issues are important to her, all of which have nothing to do with the important national and international issues facing our President and Vice-President.
It is an article that finally sets forth all of the reasons that it is an insult to think of her as being even remotely qualified to be Vice-President. It becomes obvious that the only criteria used by John McCain in his selection was to find someone with as little knowledge, experience and expertise, and therefore no record to review, who would appeal to the conservative base of his party. The facts about Sarah Palin speak for themselves, and it is so painfully apparent that there is nothing to be heard since there are no substantive or applicable issues that apply to her as a Vice-Presidential nominee.
It is refreshing to finally have someone tell the truth about the Republican Party’s almost complete dominance of Washington during the past eight years – the Presidency for all eight years, the House of Representatives for six of the eight years, and the Senate for five of the eight years – all controlled by the Republican Party. It is such a lie and such a very sad joke to listen to them claim that the Republicn Party was did not control government for at least six of the past eight years, that the Republican Party did not control and dominate the federal legislature for the six of past eight years, that the Republican Party controlled what was done and all that was not accomplished. It is the height of arrogance and a complete joke to listen to Sarah Palin talk about the importance of having the Republicans “gain” control of a process, a system, and a legislative agenda over which they had total and complete control for six of the last eight years.
The previous comments remind me of two very accurate and applicable quotes. The first is “don’t confuse me with facts, my mind is made up.” The second is “a nation, and its people, get the form of government they elect and they deserve.” If lies and deceit can win the day, I am sorry that the rest of us will have to suffer and pay the price for the blindness and refusal to listen to facts.
The facts are the facts, the truth is the truth, regardless of political ideology or political party. As Ms. Palin and Mr. McCain seem so fond of saying, we are all Americans. But for the people who wrote the prior comments, this obviouly is a fact that has been lost on them.
Stephen – Michigan
It also is refreshing to finally



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Marlene Cohen

posted September 5, 2008 at 10:54 am


I did not appreciate the negative article written by Mr. Fein, with a bogus title of “A Jewish Perspective on Palin”….there was no Jewish perspective at all…I sensed a negative opinion of her, by the writer, therefore, he is not in the position to be the voice of the Jewish people, nor of Israel….There are Jews, like me who love Israel, I married an Israeli…then there are the left wing Jews, who in my opinion, are not as concerned with our homeland…It is egotistical of Mr. Fein, to think that his badly written perspective, has anything to do with reality, or knowledge of all Jewish people…I lost 3 minutes of my time reading his nonsense…..Marlene Cohen and the reference to terrorism, was ignorance personified!!!!! (who would even be dumb enough to pass on that nonsense!!), and this coming from me, a woman who votes for the person, not the party….



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danmuffoletto

posted September 5, 2008 at 11:13 am


THe country and the world are in need of repair.Please read my webpage votemuff.com
As the New York Times pulizter prize winner said “MUFFOLETTO 2008″.
McC is not in good health. Do you really think that this Lady is the One to defend the US in a war? To appoint judges? TO veto important bills?
Obama is very confused. How can anyone be so blatently be proud of shouting for stabbing a baby that failed to be aborted with scissors through it’s head. This is murder.
81 % of people believe that both parties are not in touch with their lives.
As the only presidential candidate who does not accept any money from anyone, I will tell you Abramoff is not spoken here.I have sent back envelopes of cash to their senders.
Ralph Nader has made some good points, but he turns people off with his communictions skills.
We can have a booming economy by cleaning up our water, air, and food. We can green up our markets with seed capital to persue horizontal windmills, geo-thermal coils, orbiting solar energy stations.
WeVote muff, even better then Bush!
Mozol TOv!



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Betty C. Meyer

posted September 5, 2008 at 11:34 am


I am Jewish and this is definitely NOT my perspective. Mr. Fein speaks only for himself . This is only HIS opinion – not facts, just opinion – and does not represent a “Jewish” anything.



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Chana Silverman

posted September 5, 2008 at 12:18 pm


I agree with Stephen in Michigan, A well researched article and not any more negative than anything else written about the current candidates.
Very well researched. As for calling something the “Jewish” perspective, if one looks closer at the title it is A Jewish perspective and not “The” Jewish perspective. LOL – we need to READ a bit more carefully before accusing one Jew for speaking for ALL Jews. It is this one Jew’s perspective and the title is not deceiving, nor does it claim to be the only perspective of all of us diverse Jews!
I like Sarah Palin a lot and think she will be a positive force to add to our government, however, not as a vice President.
If something happens to McCain then she becomes President!
I see in her all the problems Republican’s have vocied as the reason for not electing Obama – too young, not enough experience!!
Lots of double talk and faulty thinking coming from the Rep.s in my opinion. I think I will stick the the one I hear discussing the issues with ideas for solving our many problems without platitudes or brazenly attempting to appeal to religious magical thinking. Think cognitively people – make common sense not emotional word war.



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Chana Silverman

posted September 5, 2008 at 12:22 pm


OOOOPS – typo – stick With the one not stick the the one lol! Have a great day all you debaters! Shalom all from Chana



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Yoshiyyahu Hoffman

posted September 5, 2008 at 12:31 pm


Nothing Jewish about this article! I even find it distasteful that someone Jewish could be so blindsided and bias! Certainly not a good testimony to Jewish opinion or thought. Very opinionated and decietful manipulation of media garbage. The Clintons and those they back have been and are the most anti-jewish, and anti-Israel political figures of our age! And the group that finances the largest part of the Democratic party is definetly against israel and makes no bones about it! Why dont you talk about what Obama has said about Israel? And what he has alluded to as a solution of the middle east? I think this is more of a Jewish concern than anything in this article. In fact let me say this if Obama get this office, you better do two things. One make sure you have a spare bedroom to help a poor Israeli refugee have a place to stay, and secondly get braced because every nation in this age that strayed toward socialism soon became a haven for terrorist! That is a very Jewish concern.



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William N. Trent

posted September 5, 2008 at 12:49 pm


Mrs. Palin is completely unqualified to be President and is just an example of
Republican tokenism. And Mr. Hoffman apparently thinks that our foreign policy should
be crafted by AIPAC and run from Tel Aviv. Nebekh! Any time an American, Jewish or
Gentile, makes even the slightest suggestion that maybe Israel hasn’t treated the
Palestinians well, he or she is automatically smeared as anti-Israel and anti-Semitic.



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Yoshiyyahu Hoffman

posted September 5, 2008 at 1:06 pm


If you want to know something about someone then talk to those who are close to their table! I hear alot of super opinionated voices who probably didn’t even know she existed last week and who base everything they say on news media. I happen to have friends who live in Alaska, and guess what that have a pretty fair opinion of her! I would presume they have known her longer than many fo you with your negetive comments and media opinions which are worth about as much a used bubble gum wrappers!



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David ALtschul

posted September 5, 2008 at 1:10 pm


The old joke asked, What’s the most popular Jewish wine? (I got nuthin’ to wear.) Fein shows the new clothes, with the popular whine being: any Republican must be wrong. A balanced wview would have told us whether Mr. Biden has staked out any positions in contravention of his party’s platform. Those who worry about Republicans selectin unknowns should recall that President Eisenhower’s biggest regret was his appointment of Earl Warren as Chief Justice. Senator Obama’s foreign policy team is anchored by Mr. Brzezhinski, the Godfatehr of our mess in Afghanistan. As for me, I’ve seen much more leadership, legislative initiative and coalition-building from Sen. McCain that from Obama, much more active campaigning against corruption own’s own party from Palin than from Biden or Barack.



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Larry Gropper

posted September 5, 2008 at 1:17 pm


Mr. Fein’s “assessment” is truely an example nothing to say about a very serious toic. Our nomination process this election period began 20 months earlier than ever before, and look what we have. “God’s waiting room”, lack of real experience, experience but destined to be in a closet, and an ultra-right winged-guntoting-embryonic world know-it-all. Shame on us.



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dody

posted September 5, 2008 at 1:48 pm


This is typical left-wing trash. Nancy Peliso, Harry Reed and the Democrat gangsters have been holding Washington DC hostage. Leave the woman alone. Shame on you. You’re supposed to be such followers of the Old Testament, yet you smear this woman, and, her young daughter. Where’s the compassion???? This is America. Free speech for everyone, not just you liberals.



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Chana

posted September 5, 2008 at 2:21 pm


I’ve been a Jewish conservative since the 1970s when I was a teenager, before I could even vote! I’m voting and campaigning for McCain/Palin, I feel they are the best qualified for the job.
We’re really going to see the hypocrisy of the liberals and feminists now…for years they’ve been whining that they want a woman in this spot, but the truth was, it had to be a LIBERAL woman, aha!



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Laura

posted September 5, 2008 at 2:56 pm


Thank you, Dody for your perceptive comments.
Just a reminder, Sarah Palin has concrete experience as former mayor and now as governor. Upon taking the oath of governor, she became the Commander and Chief of Alaska’s National guard. She has a 80% approval rating from a diverse group of citizens which are spread over the largest state in the Union. Where is the offense with maintaining good relations with Alaska’s Jewish community and meeting with Israeli Foreign Ministry official David Akov? Wasn’t she conducting herself in the official capacity of Governor? Isn’t it good that “Alaska’s residents love Israel” rather than the opposite?
Let us not be “stiff necked” but be open to the positive experience this woman brings.



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Frank

posted September 5, 2008 at 2:58 pm


Comments so far seem to be missing any substance. Is it possible to discuss real issues facing the US and the world or is picking a presidential candidate solely a matter of personalities and name calling?
How about a debate about what is actually in each party platform. How about a discussion of the manner in which the policies of each party have had an effect on our lives in real terms. I’d like to see a scholarly discussion and examination of the policies of each party over the past 40 years and then see how each politician may fare. After all, whether they fall into the same traps or benefits will have a profound effect on each and every one of us. Forty years from now, we will not care whether Sara Palin’s daughter got pregnant or whether Barak Obama listened to a sermon or not. We or our children will care about the state of our economy and the state of our world. Waving the flag, playing on fears (left or right), and intellectual dishonesty have never served us well. As a Democrat, I believe that my views of the history of the past years will prevail. As a Jew, I cherish the debates and discussions that I read every week in the discussions of the Torah reading. Debate and discussion have served use well for 1000′s of years. I don’t think we would have done so well or developed such an impressive library as a people if we focused on whether Akiva or Hillel wore their kepa on the back of their heads or front. Time to grow up!



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Frosttine Smith

posted September 5, 2008 at 3:03 pm


People! I am an Alaskan,& an Independent, with great concern for our economy, the energy crisis, foreign affairs, closing our borders, & equal opportunity for all Americans. I have great admiration for Gov. Palin. She has been a breath of fresh air in our state. Although I feel a void, losing her to the Vice Presidency, I can assure you she will attack the Washington political machine with the same vigor that upset the corrupt grindings in Alaska! She is a Republican, yes, but first & foremost, she is an American, and she will stand firm on honest, strong American values, from the family, all the way to space! This is a woman,who, while not as experienced as some men who were considered, approaches each new challenge with gusto! Because of her inexperience, she goes the extra mile to thoroughly aquaint herself with even the most minute details before passing judgement, and I’ve been most impressed with her methods of attack. She is certainly NOT one of the ‘good ole boys’, so if you’re expecting the Barry Obama political ‘word games’, and
‘tax the industrious/subsidize the lazy’, you’ll be very disappointed.



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Anne M

posted September 5, 2008 at 3:30 pm


I have been researching the work that Obama has done in the senate, and find that he has done NOTHING, but abstain when there is a lot of thought or research to do regarding an issue. To me he is a “blank slate”. John McCain has done more in the senate than Obama has even thought of doing. Obama comes across to me as an arrogant person who says a lot, but really says nothing. Palin has some experience at least, and McCain has a great deal of experience and background. They are by far the safer of the group. I cannot understand the Americans who blame Bush for the everything that has gone wrong. Remember you put Nancy Pelosi and the other Dems in two years ago and that is when the country started sliding backwards. Stop focusing blame on Bush alone and look at the congress.



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Bill Medlen

posted September 5, 2008 at 3:50 pm


Dear Mr. Fein !!!
I’ve found your remarks to be typical of those “Flaming Liberals” who cannot restrain themselves from bashing a woman in order to save a man. I am a “Die Hard” conservative and cannot believe its “YOU” in the Democratic Party who are so dismissive of Palin. What a Hypocate you all are. It was just a few decades ago that it would have been men like you that would have been defending women’s rights in order to brake the glass ceiling that has hung over their heads for decades. What happened to your high standards for equal every thing in the name of women. Sounds to me as you’ve sold out for the sole purpose of keeping one of the most inexperienced men from going down the toilet. As McCain said last night,…”Country First”. You have brought shame to all of us men!!!



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Richard H.

posted September 5, 2008 at 4:06 pm


Incredibly nasty article. Personally, I am more concerned about Obama’s relationship with those who support Farakan and others in the black liberation, anti-semitic movement. By the way, if the article was intended to not be portrayed as pertaining to the Jewish community as a whole, it would have been headlined “One Jew’s Perspective on Palin” as opposed to “A Jewish Perspective on Palin”. Words do count!



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Harvey Hirsch

posted September 5, 2008 at 5:17 pm


I find it disturbing that you feel qualified to speak for all Jews,”A Jewish Perspective on Palin”, rather than “Leonard Fein’s Perspective on Palin”. By the way have you expressed your opinion (on this site) on Obama’s lack of experience in anything except Community Organizer?
Shame on you Leonard have you no sense of history?



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Sid S

posted September 5, 2008 at 5:25 pm


My Dear Mr. Fein,
Me thinks thou doest protest too much! I would expect nothing less from such a shallow individual. But let’s get one thing straight, please. Govenor Sarah Palin is more of a “man” than you’ll ever be. I only pray that someday you find your pitiful rear end in Alaska moose country. And, by the way, the title of your “article” is as misleading as the recent cover of “US” magazine. Obama is Carter and Palin is Reagan. And you are scared!



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Pat Nowak

posted September 5, 2008 at 5:34 pm


Idiots like Fein have lost touch with real people. How sad that he gets a forum like this to spew his hatred.



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Deborah

posted September 5, 2008 at 6:46 pm


First, “decisively non-Alaskan?” I will certainly agree that that is true, and not in a good way.
I would be much more at ease with Sarah Palin a heartbeat away from the presidency than I would with Obama taking the oath of office. Why is Sarah Palin fair game and Obama not? When are his connections in Chicago going to be scrutinized? He hasn’t denied any of his Chicago activities, just tried to suppress any information about them.



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Yoshiyyahu Hoffman

posted September 5, 2008 at 7:03 pm


It is amazing how such a negetive article can bring out such positive people! I love it! It proves will still have a chance we have not all turned into sheep to be herded into the liberal slaughter house..Bah bah ..bah! If Frank could bring his nose down a little lower and realize it is important what will be tomorrow, becuase without tomorrow we will not get to 40 years from when we will not care about all of this. The United States is in trouble people! We are at war! Our very survival is at stake! None of the Candidates are what I would prefer, but there is not much of a choice here! Reality will knocking at our door very soon, and I would prefer someone in Washington who will try to purge the garbage from our Government, and it aint Obama!
Thank you for the great comments! and you see the people of Alaska love her, but the liberals want a “woman of their chioce” and not a woman of Americas choice!



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Angel

posted September 5, 2008 at 7:33 pm


Thank you Stephen from Michigan!! You’re the only one posting with any brains.



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suzz

posted September 5, 2008 at 9:40 pm


My Jewish vote is for McCain and Palin. Anyone who understands security and our need to defend Israel would be very afraid of Obama. I am.



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Mark Belas

posted September 5, 2008 at 10:22 pm


“A Jewish Perspective on Palin”, is a very misleading title. A better title would be “One disgruntled, misinformed, Jewish man’s view of Gov, Palin.



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alan

posted September 5, 2008 at 10:31 pm


What a hatchet job! I am Jewish and I see things very differently from the author. Who gave him the mantle of spokesman for the American Jew?



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Jeff

posted September 6, 2008 at 12:49 am


….Interesting…this “Jewish Perspective” is, as my fellow thoughtful commenters point out, the perspective of one very shrewd, very biased Jewish person, not the perspective of many of us. It amazes me how little our liberal brethren have, other than innuendo and bitter diatribes to make their points for their anointed candidate. If Obama were not wearing a Democratic mantle, if he were espousing the same dangerous and divisive rhetoric under the cloak of a Republican, most of these sheeplike members of our faith would run, not walk for the exit. The generational party loyalty is blinding many to the true danger. When a wolf puts on sheep’s clothing to get close to the flock, it doesn’t change the nature of the wolf. He is only hungry and willing to do anything to be able to entertain his gluttoness appetites. Sarah Palin doesn’t dawn any such costume. She is a pitbull. A pitbull who fights any and everyone to get to the right result. Brava!



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debra

posted September 6, 2008 at 12:53 am


To Leonard Fein;Governor Palin cannot help what her daughter does anymore than what anyone else can about their children.Yes the bible says to “Train up a child in the way they should go and they will not depart from it when they are old” but the child also has a responsibility to apply that lesson to their lives.Her daughters` pregnancy has nothing to do with her ability to make those important decisions you so readily snear at.Also let`s not forget that Obamas` side has made plenty of snide remarks and foolish statements.One of those remarkes is that McCain is too old to run for president.I for one do not think McCain is ready to be put out to pasture.He has the leadership and the resolve to lead this nation.In response to Obama`s remark I think maybe Obama is too young to have the wisdom to run this great country. I guess the good old boys can`t take it when a woman shows them up.Also your remarkes are sexist.Instead of worrying what Palin thinks about Israel you better worry about what Obama has said concerning Israel.For your uninformed mind he has said “If it comes down to a decision between the jews and the muslims that he is going to side with the muslims.”He has said a number of things that apparently you have missed.You had better find out what Obama really is before you open your mouth about others.This is from a woman who is voting for the McCain ,Palin ticket and so is my entire family.–Debra.



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LTC Leonard H Mandel USA RETIRED

posted September 6, 2008 at 2:39 am


This Jewish Conservative is thrilled that Senator John McCain picked an energetic woman for his Vice Presidential pick.For the most part American Jews are married to the liberal wing of the Democratic Party and think that all Jews must somehow be of the liberal bent.If Sarah Palin is like most Fundamentalist Christians in the United States she will be amazing very pro-Israel..Where did Moses get the official Jewish view on gun control,abortion or gay marriages when he descended from Mount Sinai with the 10 Commandments which incidentally can’t be displayed in our public schools thanks to the ACLU…Obama has had a twenty year tie to Reverend Wright a fan of Louis Fahrakhan whom he has praised.Why do American Jews ignore this? Who is most likely to assist Israel with dealing with a nuclear Iran,John McCain or Barack Obama??
There is no Jewish perspective on Palin or anyone else.Jews are individuals not a collective group which must think one way on any political issue. Leonard H Mandel GOODYEAR,ARIZONA



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Kathie

posted September 6, 2008 at 7:36 am


Shame on YOU Mr. Fein! I have enjoyed reading this site for several years but this is the worst I have read.
Aren’t JEWS supposed to be AMERICANS first???? Hmmmmmmmmmmm…support for Isreal really isn’t a question today…as a non-Jew I think that most informed U.S. citizens have a strong understanding that support for Isreal is vital…so give up that retoric Mr. Fein, it is OLD, tired and condesending.
I also would like to say that I hope Mr. Fein has 100% success with the behavior of all of his children, grandchildren, nieces and nephews..or whomever he may love. Shame on those who even dare mention the young Palin woman. It is SO sad that if she had had an abortion we probably would have never known and certainly MOST democrats would not have cared…OR if she has premarital sex and didn’t get pregnant we wouldn’t probably know…so Mr. Fein please explain the difference…there is none. Who else are you going to judge for pre marital sex or infidelity? Mr. Clinton perhaps? Parents can only do so much and then support the child in what is “right” from that point forward. Sarah Palin has done that hasn’t she? You are a very BITTER man Mr. Fein. I would love to know the “sexual history” of those who are judging the young Ms Palin, but then maybe only the person and
G-d knows that AND our behavior is for G-d to judge afterall.
Mr. Fein, how would you like your daughter judged and talked about the way Ms. Palin has been the last week or so?
And you may print my name and address:
Kathie Shaffer
Cumberland, Maryland



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ron

posted September 6, 2008 at 10:21 am


your opinon is long winded,and seems to be pandering to the left ,I belive the “left” like Obama ,would be more ” problematic to the jewish people than the right!



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Richard

posted September 6, 2008 at 10:54 am


I am amazed that so many so-called Jews espouse positions that are diametrically opposed to the basic tenet of Judaism, to wit, it is the relationships between people and how you treat them. Apparently this concept is too difficult to understand for these “Jews.” If you think I am wrong, look at the prayers said on Yom Kippur, where transgressions between people can only be resolved by dealing one on one with the person whom you have transgressed, not G-d.
How can women vote for a person who would take their right to choose away?
How can anyone believe in creationism (I would not deign to use a capitol “C”). As a Ph.D. biologist I can tell you that evidence of evolution is found all over the world. For those of you who are graduates from the School of Gehabt Nicht Sechal (no common sense) you fail to understand that a theory can be TESTED! Creationism cannot be tested.
Why would anyone vote for a person who is against stem cell research? It is interesting that people who are against using frozen embryos for such research are perfectly willing to have them incinerated after 5 years of storage; where does this make any sense?
How can Ms. Palin say that climate change does not exist; as the drowning Polar Bears can attest; ask the Native Americans who depend upon them for sustenance.
Ben Franklin said ‘The American People get the government they deserve’; vote for Ms. Palin and you will get precisely that.



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Bill

posted September 6, 2008 at 11:09 am


Richard, of course creationism can be tested. Look at the Torah and it’s version of the beginning and address whether any living thing can reproduce anything but something after its own “kind. Please address creationism with the same fervor you looked at the lie of evolution with. How does evolution fit the second law of thermodynamics, and aren’t changes in dna structures in nature called mutations?
In God, Bill



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Shirley J. Weir

posted September 6, 2008 at 11:58 am


As usual, being a Christian is a sin to many of the world – Jewish or otherwise. No one is looking for a “perfect” Sarah Palin – or are you?



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Richard

posted September 6, 2008 at 12:12 pm


Bill,
I guess you have not heard about Carbon 14 dating, a technique that permits the dating of objects based on the decay rate of the isotope C14. The world was not created 10,000 years ago based on DATA, not on beliefs. The Earth is 5 billion years old for your information.
Data on evolution is universally found anywhere you look whether it is on land or in the sea. How do you explain that animals(i.e. the shark or crocodile)that existed hundreds of millions of years ago have modern descendants like sharks and crocodiles that bear the same anatomic features, but differ in size. The difference being wrought by the decrease in oygen content now (20 percent) versus then (> than 50%). So tell me where the “lie” is.
The second law implies that heat does not spontaneously flow from a cold material to a hot material, but it allows heat to flow from a hot material to a cold material. Roughly speaking, the second law says that in an isolated system, concentrated energy disperses over time, and consequently less concentrated energy is available to do useful work. Energy dispersal also means that differences in temperature, pressure, and density even out. Again roughly speaking, thermodynamic entropy is a measure of energy dispersal, and so the second law is closely connected with the concept of entropy. (Taken from Wikipedia.)
Evolution fits in nicely with the Second Law of Thermodynamics, which is demonstrated in the fossil record how do you explain the plethora of species then and now?
Lastly, please tell me where your G-d was at Aushcwitz?
Richard
You have nor provided any evidence that creationism can be tested. If I am missing something, let me know what it is. Hoe does one prove a negative??



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Al Eastman

posted September 6, 2008 at 2:08 pm


Who is this Leaonard Fein to think he speaks for anyone but himself? His hubris is amazing, to think that he is a spokesman for any other Jew. He speaks only for himself,
To those of you who think Governor Palin is not qualified to be first in line of succession to be the chief executive of this great nation,I offer you these challanges:
1-Give convincing, thoughtful and factual reasons why Senator Obama is qualified. Cite examples of his executive leadership experiences in local & state governments or the private sector.
2-Truthfully answer this question: If you were in a position to hire a CEO of large corporation, would you hire Mr. Obama, and if so, state what in his background makes you think he has the experience and skills to lead your corporation.



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Brandon

posted September 6, 2008 at 4:50 pm


I don’t think Governor Palin’s view about creationism is a keystone issue. Although there is overwhelming scientific proof to dispute it, this idea is a matter of faith. I’m sure 2,000 years ago most Jews held a similar view. So what if she’s a little bit behind the times?
Also, her lack of experience and dearth of positions on the important issues facing our country are tangentially relevant since, in all likelihood, she will never be President. What she is, and the reason McCain chose her, is an attack dog. She’s a Dick Cheney in a skirt, very attractive features, and slick, television skills honed during her days as a sportscaster.
By choosing Palin, McCain made a smart political move to get himself elected. He can’t run on his party’s platform or performance over the last eight years. He also wants to pretend he’s a statesman — so he hired Palin to do his dirty work. He wants the election to be based on personality and superficial physical qualities. A former beauty queen, Palin got the nickname “Barracuda” in High School and the moniker sticks to this day. How many of you noticed after McCain’s convention speech that Palin came out on stage to the strains of that old Heart song, “Barracuda?”
Experience in any profession is useful. And Obama has limited knowledge about how to run our government. That’s why he picked Biden — to help advise do that. What Obama has, and I feel is essential in a leader, is great intelligence, a calm, rational demeanor, and the ability to build consensus between opposing groups. His has been educated in the finest universities, graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law School, and has had real-life experiences in the trenches of Chicago (taking a $12,000 a year job as a community organizer to register voters instead of a six-figure job with a big legal firm says a lot about his values). McCain graduated in the lower third of his Naval Academy class and except for one year working for his father-in-law at the family’s beer distributorship, has spent his entire life in the military or in Washington. He has much less “real world” experience than Obama, 25 years his junior.
So forget Palin. She’s a circus side-show cleverly designed by McCain and his cronies to shift our focus away from what matters — which of these two, Obama or McCain, will make the best decisions on the complex, serious issues facing our country.



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Leonard Fein

posted September 6, 2008 at 5:06 pm


Calm down, if you can. I did not choose the title for my piece, although I have no objection to its being called “A Jewish . . . ” [not, by any stretch, "the" Jewish] “perspective.”
I’ll not try to reply to the many hysterical responses, though I find the animus against Obama disturbing. I cannot, however, resist wondering in what sense Al Eastman believes that answers to the two questions he raises have anything to do with Governor Palin’s qualifications for the vice-presidency. Whether she is qualified or not — and to my way of thinking, her utter lack of qualification makes her selection a piece of cynical political theater — is quite independent of whether anyone else is qualified. Nor does it seem to me that “executive leadership experience” is a necessary prerequisite to the presidency. Abe Lincoln had none, nor did either JFK or LBJ — or Nixon, when Eisenhower selected him, for that matter.



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Maurice Eisenstein

posted September 6, 2008 at 6:38 pm


Any Jew who is willing to vote for Barack Hussain Obama over John McCain for President of the United States is also a Jew who will always wonder why they don’t love us and why did the Germans kill us.
The fact is they are the Jews who remained behind in Germany and Europe generally still believing that they are not coming to cut their throats.
The remaining 12 million Jews on this planet should know that a presidential candidate supported from Gaza and Saudi Arabia, including Hezzbollah and Al-Qeida, is not going to support the Jews as Jews.
Besides has not anyone noticed that everything about him is a fake or a lie. Being from Chicago, I can tell you that the man has meant nothing to anyone except the Chicago political machine. Then someone wants to actually put this on the same platform with John McCain. That is really not having any principles.



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LG

posted September 6, 2008 at 8:53 pm


6 September 2008
Wonder if Leonard Fein would have the freedom to write his opinions if not for American; One nation under God with liberty and justice for all, include our partners. But where does she stand on Israel? The same place we Americans have always stood, right nest to Israel. So how darn one challenges our commitment to Israel, which has never wavered under conservative administrations. Can you say this while under the Left and far Left?



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Debbie

posted September 6, 2008 at 10:33 pm


I think the concerns that were mentioned are legitimate. She doesn’t have the experience of handling large issues. She is projecting the “Alaska Girls Kick Ass” attitude that is on many bumper stickers and shirts on Alaskan woman. Its okay to be a tough woman, but there is a difference in being tough and coming across as a bully. I am from Alaska, I have seen the good things that she has been able to accomplish. But I have also seen the earmarks for the small town of Wasilla. A small town that’s awkward state of growth can only remind you a teenager. All arms and legs, but not much body to keep it firm and balanced. She does not yet have the savvy for the role of V.P. As she calls herself a hockey Mom…Think of that, do you really want a hockey mom deciding what we should do internationally.
From what I have heard various men say, she is more for men like Kennedy was for women. The good looks distracting from the issues. Can you say Windowdressing. And before I come across as “one of those envious women” Let me say, I think Sarah becoming V.P. would be a great boost for Alaska, we would get plenty of attention, even more tourists than what we get now! And when our congressional delegation comes to the table looking for the lions share of the money. Enough people will have come to our state to realize that there is a significant portion of the state that lives in third world conditions.
So Thanks Sarah for reminding folks that Alaska IS part of the United States.



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Gwen Orel

posted September 7, 2008 at 1:42 am


Al,
nice ducking and weaving. The fact that Ms. Palin is unqualified has no bearing on Obama’s qualifications. Since you can’t defend HER, you go after HIM.
Well, HE was head of Harvard’s Law Review. He taught the law. He was a community organizer (as were the organizer’s of the United States of America, hello).
She, in contrast, is retaining a lawyer because she’s up on charges of wrongfully firing someone who refused to dismiss an in-law she was on the outs with. She tried to fire a librarian who wouldn’t pull books from the library. Her experience is absolutely minimal– and what there is, is BAD. She raised taxes in her town to build a sports stadium, without clearing the title to the land, and now the town is in debt!
Governor Palin is a JOKE. Karl Rove attacked Tim Kean for governing Virginia because it was too small– and it has something like 10 times the population of Alaska.
Stick to the subject, this is about Palin, not Obama. Seems as though the only way Republicans can defend this ignorant, hypocrtical woman with fascistic tendencies (just keep repeating lies, dismiss anybody who challenges me) is to attack the enemy.
Palin would be a disaster for the Jews. She is against everything in our tradition– discussion, investigation, caring for the weak, freedom of thought. She says she’s a “hockey mom” but then says her family’s off-limits.
I would absolutely hire a man like Obama who, raised by a single Mom, has accomplished all he has over a beauty-pageant runner-up sportscaster who as mayor of a teeny town put the town in debt. It’s not even close. But of course the real contest is not Palin and Obama, it’s Palin and Biden…
want to go off on Biden too?
Now, please tell me what qualifies Ms. Palin to govern anything.



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Gwen Orel

posted September 7, 2008 at 1:48 am


Maurice,
I am a Jew whose father fought in WWII.
Your argument is really offensive. How can any Jew of immigrant descent make fun of Obama becuase his name is not English enough??
It is not Obama, but McCain who would keep this country iat war, who would smear his opponents and fire everyone who does not agree with him. It is not Obama, but McCain who would overturn Roe v. Wade– he’s said he would, why do people doubt him? People doubted Hitler would do what he said he would do, too!
Do you have ANYTHING of substance to say, or is your entire fear of Obama based on the color of his skin? You should be much more afraid of McCain, a man who thinks Vietnam was a winnable war, a man who doesn’t believe in equal rights for women, and who would keep increasing tax cuts for the companies who outsource jobs and finance the war while doing absolutely nothing to help the middle class and the poor.
You should look at the actual issues, not on who else supports McCain or Obama. I don’t see how anybody who loves America could think that four more years of the same old regime we’ve had for the last eight would be a GOOD thing.
But I certainly object vehemently to your suggestion that Jews who support Obama are self-hating martyrs. It’s very offensive, and it’s ignorant, and it doesn’t belong on this site.



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Dvora

posted September 7, 2008 at 3:40 am


And since when is being a Jew either Democratic or Republican?
This sounds like a Democratic view! There are many Jews I know,
including myself, that wouldn’t be caught dead voting for Obama.
Palin has supported Israel when it was not an VP issue. Obama
flip flops on an “undivided Jerusalem”. Just those two issues
alone are enough to show where the respective “policies” lay.
Or is that lie? Oh, well. It’s obvious, don’t be oblivious.



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rod

posted September 7, 2008 at 8:25 am


For undersided VOTERS.VOTE FOR DEMACRATIC LEGISLATURE AND A REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT> DEALS HAVE TO BE MADE,HOPEFULLY FOR THE PEOPLES BENIFIT.I DO NOT TRUST OBAMA.READ THE BOOK OBAMA NATION. IT IS SCARY.



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M H Montjovier

posted September 7, 2008 at 10:16 am


I can’t believe what I just read…are you for real? Apparently you want Obama as President…if so just keep on keeping on, maybe you’ll succeed and end the relationship between Isreal and USA.
Can I assume that you are perfect and therefore have the right to knock someone else’s reputation for what good?



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Maurie Eisenstein

posted September 7, 2008 at 3:43 pm


The comments by Gwen Orel are indicative of the irrational perspectives of the Jewish left. This by the way has been true since the early part of the Twentieth Century with Jewish Communists and other fellow travelers.
I appreciate her father’s service in the United States Army. I also recognize that the only group to march and have sit-ins supporting European Jewry when it really mattered, i.e. early, was Agudat Israel. The rest of the Jewish community were trying to do the proper thing and “not make waves” with only Jewish issues — not to draw too much attention to themselves.
I did not say a word about Senator Obama race and it should not be an issue either way in this election. Roe v. Wade is not a Jewish issue in any way. Specifically the degree to which Obama has supported abortion, which is to the left of Hillary Clinton, is anti-Jewish and anti-human. He actually spoke in support of and voted for the killing of live babies after a botched abortion. As far as the war, the reality is that both candidates will do the same thing in the end and everyone knows it. As far as being correct historically, McCain was right and Obama wrong to quote Obama on FOX last week.
His Islamic association and anti-Israel associations since his birth is a concern. His sole and primary support for middle of the road Jewish and specifically Israeli issues have ALL only come about since he became a recent candidate for president. By the way, the Arabic countries he speaks differently to Islamic groups than to the rest of America.
Finally, again being from Chicago, I know the man has done nothing. It is the biggest free ride in the world. What can anyone point to that can really indicate he has any history to be where he is? Is everyone so afraid of being labeled a “Jewish racist” that they won’t oppose him?
This is not a Democratic or Republican issue. Mickey Mouse is running against Superman and the majority of Jews seem to be breaking for Mickey Mouse.



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Robert Andrade

posted September 7, 2008 at 5:02 pm


I read the article posted by Gwen Orel. I could not agree more. Well done.



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J

posted September 7, 2008 at 5:35 pm


I am voting for McCain.



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Bat_Yaacov

posted September 7, 2008 at 10:27 pm


—”How
comfortable will you be knowing it’s Vice President Palin sitting at the
side of the president at 3 P.M. when disaster strikes, crisis erupts,
tragedy befalls us? And who would you prefer take the awesome call
when the president himself is indisposed?”—
I prefer to have a Military man and his “Pit Bull” answer the call.
NOT a psuedo-senator who has never led anything, voted “present” 130 times in the senate, who started campaigning for President as soon as he was elected to the senate. The man who didn’t decide that he wasn’t a muslim until he was 27 yrs old…. the guy with children attending private schools. The man who frequently talks about his grandmother. (but not his muslim grandmother!!! is it true that she was one of 14 wives?)
I would definately be more comfortable with a prez and pit bull who know how many states there are in the U.S.!!!



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Drinda

posted September 7, 2008 at 10:44 pm


This should be titled Leonard Fein’s perspective on Palin. Are you suggesting that all Jews agree with your analogy? It would seem to me that more Jews would err on the side of life as opposed to erring on the right to choose or should i say the right to kill. Isn’t there something in the 10 commandments about that? Talk about a blank slate? I would like to read your perspective on Obama’s accomplishments and experience. Sarah Palin has him beat on experience 50 times over.



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Debra

posted September 8, 2008 at 12:41 am


To Richard:A woman`s right to choose is really called murder.It(abortion) kills an innocent baby.The baby did not have a choice so therefore it did not choose to die./Creationism is in the book of Genesis.You need to read it.Creationism can be tested.You were created and born were you not?/We are not agaist stem cell research we are against embryonic stem cell research.Big difference!A baby does not die in the stem cell research but it does die in the embryonic stem cell research./As for carbon dating and your opinion that the earth is 5 billion years old:I suggest you read “Foot Prints In The Ash”and look at Mount Saint Helens



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Mo

posted September 8, 2008 at 9:27 am


Thank you for your perspective. I will be voting for Obama. I have been watching and reading everything possible with regard to this election because I hate politics. The fact of the matter is that politicians will say anything to get the vote of the people. Most importantly, neither McCain, Obama or Biden have experience making executive decisions and Sarah Palin would be the only one of the four to have done so even if only for a little over a year. I am not entirely comfortable with either candidate or their VPs. However, I prefer to vote for a candidate who is slow to anger, willing to listen to the advice of others and make informed decisions with the country’s citizens’ best interest in mind, has worked for the people at the community organizational level because as a Christian it does show me that he has done the work of that of Jesus, Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., Mahatma Ghandi, and countless other caring human beings before him, who makes race a non-issue when it comes to relationships, who loves and cares for his family as much as Palin and McCain do theirs, and who has hope and desire to make a change. Hope and desire is where one starts when taking the steps towrad reaching a goal. I really like the fact that he is not all about negative remarks and flat out lying on his opponents. I understand that he has to debunk a lot of lies about himself and that it is necessary for both parties to point out the negative and incorrect things about their opponents, but it bothers me when they laugh at the accomplishments of Obama. Everyone has different paths and his path is an honorable one too. I don’t much care about his experience because both candidates will have a staff of people advising them and it is a good thing that people across the country are excited to mend strained alliances with the U.S. from these last 8 years. My husband has been obessessed with this entire campaign and we watched very carefully for the issues we face to be discussed. I was disappointed to hear Palin speak in the manner that she did because it was the typical put-downs and failure to speak to the issues. John McCain was just boring to the core. I don’t think that I need to be entertained, but I need to know that these people can relate to middle class people like me and my family and friends. I don’t care that her daughter is pregnant, but I do care if there is double talk going on about her Alaskan dealings and there is. For God’s sake her own people call her a hands-off governor. I also need to hear from a candidate and I feel that it is insulting to avoid the press’ questions when we all have questions about someone we know little about. Obama has answered questions under fire, Biden has answered questions and so has McCain, but not Palin. I am not interested in voting another candidate into the highest office of this country who thinks they are above the law, belittles our rights as citizens, or who bullies and makes us feel unpatriotic for asking questions and having a difference of opinion. I want to actually feel that change will be the mission of the next President and after all of the note-taking (because they are all saying the same thing at this point) I have not been able to see a hint of change in the ideas of the Republicans. I have been to the tax policy center site and seen the breakdown of taxes and there are differences in how much the middle class will have some breaks (we will benefit more so with Obama’s plan) but I am not concerned so much with that. I am mostly concerned with the overall economy. I am, on a personal level, concerned with employment, housing and health insurance. I am working on my doctorate. I have been in school literally all of my life. I have been laid off my job for two years now and cannot find permanent employment. My husband is a doctor and cannot find work that will pay him what he is worth. Our son has lost his jobs several times. Our other son is working two jobs and receiving financial aid (thank God!) in order to get his college education. Our family of 7 is living off of a $40,000 salary and we don’t all have health insurance at this time. We almost lost our home and had to sell it for little to nothing. We are now renting a home. Gas prices make it almost impossible to go anywhere. Bill collectors are calling. We have to do the ultimate no-no and dipped into our retirement funds to survive, which has been depleted. We have had to use food stamps in the past. My husband was working as a pizza delivery person. We have both received and used up our unemployment benefits. Temporary employment agencies cannot even find us jobs and now I am applying for jobs as substitute teachers for little money. My degreed friends are being laid off their jobs for a second time in almost two years and are unable to find jobs as well because they are overqualified. We sought the American dream and have seen it, like so many other Americans, wash away. It offends me to watch these analyst make fun or make light of the stories that are being told by Democrats about Americans and their struggle to survive. I even heard a woman on Morning Joe call the stories a “two headed baby…being used as bowling balls”. ??? My life is important. My ability to reap the benefits of my hard labor and education is important. I don’t care to be rich if it means being insensitive and unable to relate with others. I care about being able to enjoy the fruits of my labor. I have watched the video clips of republicans demeaning Hilary Clinton and her ability to deal with men and the russians and their statements telling her to stop whining and deal with the criticism of the public. At the same time, those same people are balking at the idea of the press asking questions of Sarah Palin’s abilities. ??? What works for one does not work for another? I don’t doubt that Obama, McCain or even Biden are men of good character. They all have great qualities and great life stories. I cannot say the same for Sarah Palin. There is not much available to the public nor is her record completely maverick as she has apparently successfully tried to convince the public. This is the part of politcs that makes me sick to my stomach. The lies. The half-truths. The apparent quest to make people forget the obvious things. The double talk and the nastiness in the ads. It is hard for me to find any of them believable when they rip each other to shreds and then turn around and ask us to support their party’s candidate. Bigoted? Political? Yes. They are all rich. They are all subject to flip-flop on issues. They all have lobbyist relationships. How is John McCain a maverick? He voted with Bush 95% of the time. Is it because he knew he would need his support when he ran for President? Most assuredly, yes. How is Sarah Palin a maverick if she has received lobbyist money herself? Come on people! I may be in the minority when I say that they are all manipulating us to some extent. Abortion is not my issue. I think it is completely a private matter. It is also a privately spiritual matter. I also think that it is an issue of irresponsible sex and that we need to as family members see to it that our daughters think of themselves and that consequences of their actions. They are the ones left with the decisions in most cases. I also understand that single women are not the only people who get abortions. I know that married couples often face this issue as well. WHo am I to get involved. I understand the issue of murder of unborn children, but who is going to take care of the children when they are born into this unwanted situations? Who is going to care for them if the mother can’t and the father won’t? The state? The public? Republicans? Democrats? Grandparents? Therapists? American already has the highest pregnancy rate in the world. Our youngest citizens are the poorest as a result of their single parent family status. I would like to help, but my family can barely survive as it is. I would like to scream out CHOOSE LIFE and speak of the joys of raising a child, but how can I if I can’t help them and assure them that life will be a stuggle but they will be alright (even if
they have no money, no family assistance like Sarah palin’s daughter). If I were Mr. Buffett, the richest man in the world, I would attempt to heal the world of its ills, but that is not going to happen in reality. I am not rich and we cannot heal the world. I am voting for Obama. I am voting for him because I believe with Biden on his side he will stick to the issues of the people. I believe his hope and belief that we can change the world is inspiring and Christ-like. I also think that in reality he will do his absolute best to work for the people he serves. John McCain/Sarah Palin are just going to continue Bush’s legacy. I am not interested in helping corporate America or even rich people. I don’t care if they get taxed. Even if they do have higher taxes they are still rich. The poor and mostly the middle class carry this country. If we suffer the entire country suffers. It is an ordinary reasoning and not quite so simple, but that is my choice. I believe Barack Obama is a nice with high hopes. I want to know that my brother will serve this country in Iraq and return home to his family to receive the recognition and veteran’s assistance he deserves when it is all said and done. I have had enough of the fear-talk, the cockiness of Bush-Cheney who have profited greatly doing the dirty deeds of Karl Rove and starting a war that will never end (we will always be a target) and who have shady relationships with the very people they have convinced many Americans were evil. Now that I think of it, why would anyone want to be President at this time? They have nothing but a mess to clean up and a trillion dollar debt to look forward to? Maybe I will vote for McCain and Palin so Obama won’t get blamed by the forgetful American public for the troubles of this country due to its horrendous leadership.



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Alfred

posted September 8, 2008 at 12:07 pm


Bat_Yaacov, I just love how you believe the hype about Obama, you know, all the lies and smeer tactics. Obama was never raised a Muslim and even is he were, he undoubtedly is not one now. Christians have killed countless more Jews then any Muslim could ever have imagined and yet Obama being tied to Muslims is so adverse. Why not a Muslim President, or Jewish one for that matter. Let’s please stick to the facts, Obama has always been on the side of the poor and working class. He doesn’t mention his African grandmother bercause he does not really know her and his white grandmother did raise him. Big deal he’s African, or Black, so was Ephraim, Mannassa, the wife and descendents of Moses and even David had African blood flowing in his rich veins. Enough already with the smeer tactics!!



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Naomi Marie

posted September 8, 2008 at 8:32 pm


How is this woman a representative of me?
I share her exact birthdate and year.
She does not use a voice that brings consciousness or compassion to the world. I dare say that Hillary is a more compassionate person than Sarah Palin.
How does a woman proclaim that God has a war against muslims and hopes her child is going on God’s war. Then say she is pro-life. Why is a child that is born less precious than one in the womb?
Look at the video of her speaking on youtube.com This is not hype. These are her words.
She is willing to impose her beliefs and rationalize God’s will onto others. This is dangerous. This is the essence of a crime, to impose your will on another.
McCain is a war monger. He wants war. He believes in war. He does not have a voice of reason and he will not reach out to heal the deep wounds that have been made in the international community.
Bush and his cronies have made a great windfall. They have supplied themselves with the Blackwater army. Yes, the emperor has an army now. google it. Read the history of the payments made from your tax dollars to these company. They where next to our troops with good equipment while our men died and were mamed.
This must become a rational campaign. We must look at the results of the actions of the people. The results have been a disaster that has gotten worst over the last 8 years. Obama does have a record – he has worked tirelessly to uplift people.
We must become a clear headed people. Not controlled like monkey’s by the media. We must look to the good of all, who is the most willing to take a broad interest in our rights? In our humanity.
I have friends whose parents lived in Germany in the 1930s. The say as they watch the internal manipulation of the masses and the erosion of the civil rights, it is all to familiar to the unspeakable history their parents lived.
McCain does not have what it takes to pull together an international healing for our country. We need a man who can speak many people’s languages. We have to have a man that appeals to people of many races and colors. We are in a dangerous place in the world. We have to wake up to the situation that we have been put in and correct it rationally now.



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Steve

posted September 12, 2008 at 3:55 am


When God says don’t do it . Homosexuality or Abortion . Republican or Democratic ? o your home work !
Vote for God Christians … Love you all . Steve



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