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Is the Tea Party Unbiblical?

posted by Ju-Don Roberts

By Alfredo GarciaReligion News Service WASHINGTON (RNS) When conservative broadcaster Glenn Beck warned churchgoers to “run as fast as you can” if their pastors preach about “social justice,” was he also encouraging them to run from the Bible?
That’s what some progressive Christian leaders are arguing as battle lines are drawn for the 2010 mid-term elections. They say Beck and his Tea Party followers are, in a word, unbiblical.
Not so fast, say Tea Party activists, who claim biblical grounds for a libertarian-minded Jesus. He didn’t like tax-based welfare programs, they say, and encouraged his followers to donate from the heart.
The insurgent Tea Party movement threatens to usurp the political prominence of religious conservatives, whose focus on hot-button social issues has been overshadowed by the Tea Party’s fight against big government.
“I think that the general ideology of the Tea party is not a Christian one,” said David Gushee, professor of Christian ethics at Mercer University and co-founder of the New Evangelical Partnership for the Common Good, a faith-based nonprofit.
“This kind of small government libertarianism, small taxes, leave-me-alone-to-live-my-life ideology has more in common with Ayn Rand than it does with the Bible.”
Gushee described the Tea Party as “an uneasy marriage between the libertarian conservative strand and the Christian right strand” of American politics. In this “uneasy alliance,” however, he said the Christian side has taken a backseat to the movement’s libertarian impulses.
According to a recent Bloomberg poll, 44 percent of Tea Party activists are self-identified “born-again” Christians, a group that generally takes close to heart Jesus’ instructions to feed the hungry and clothe the naked.
Tea Party activists say the question is not whether to follow Jesus’
words, but how.
Lloyd Marcus of Deltona, Fla., a spokesman for the Tea Party Express, is a born-again, nondenominational Christian who says flatly that “Jesus was not for socialism.”
“Yes, the Bible advocates giving, but out of the goodness of our own hearts, not out of government confiscation of wealth or re-distribution of wealth,” he said.
Joseph Farah, founder and CEO of the website WorldNetDaily and author of the new “Tea Party Manifesto,” agreed.
“When Jesus talks about clothing the naked, feeding the hungry, he’s talking to us as individuals,” Farah said. The Bible does not “suggest that government is the institution that he designed to help the poor.”
Government social welfare programs are akin to “coercively taking money from people and redistributing to other people, which, at the end of the day, is legalized stealing,” he said. “And the Bible is pretty firm on stealing.”
But the Bible, and particularly the Hebrew prophets, are also firm on need to protect the vulnerable, which sometimes requires government action, said Simon Greer, president and CEO of the Jewish Funds for Justice, which helped fuel the progressive backlash against Beck.
Greer said his New York-based group is founded on “the fundamental religious call to care for others,” which in turn is based “on the belief that we’re all made in the image of the divine.”
“The only sensible conclusion is that we need mechanisms like effective government … to solve the pressing problems that our country faces,” he said.
The Rev. Jim Wallis, founder of the Washington-based social justice group Sojourners, is even blunter in his assessment of the Tea Party’s approach to giving.
“The libertarian enshrinement of individual choice is not the pre-eminent Christian virtue,” he wrote on his blog, God’s Politics. “Emphasizing individual rights at the expense of others violates the common good, a central Christian teaching and tradition.”
Gushee frames his vision of government as “the community acting collectively,” with religious groups playing a key role. Religious groups have been active supporters of government programs to fight disease, poverty and HIV/AIDS in the developing world — programs that would not exist without the wherewithal of the federal government.
For his part, Farah says he puts his faith in the generosity of the American people and supports church-based welfare over government-run programs. The data, however, tell a different story.
According to Illinois-based Empty Tomb, Inc., which tracks charitable giving, American church-goers gave only about 2.5 percent of disposable income to churches in 2007; of that, only about 0.37 percent — roughly $100 per member — went to charities beyond the church. Those figures are down by about half since 1968.
Michael Lindsay, a sociologist at Rice University and author of “Faith in the Halls of Power,” doesn’t have much hope for individual charity.
“I would like to think that Christians are generous,” he said in an interview, “but sadly the truth of the matter is that their rhetoric is much stronger than their action.”
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  • nnmns

    “heir rhetoric is much stronger than their action.”
    Amen! Wanting to help the needy but only through private donations is like wanting to feed your family but only through bread and wine at church.
    What the Tea Parties are about are greed and racism.
    Greed because they don’t want anyone to be helped up by the government. This means they are either well-to-do and greedy or expect to be well-to-do and are greedy. As the statistics point out, people are not going to be fed without government intervention and people without health care are not going to get it without government intervention.
    Racism because they’ve suddenly gotten really attentive to government deficits but they were nowhere in evidence when George W. Bush instituted all those tax cuts that only really helped the wealthy and needlessly invaded Iraq without budgeting for it. When he went into office we were cutting the national debt but soon he was raising it by leaps and bounds. And all these people who are supposed to only be concerned about deficits didn’t organize, didn’t get on Fox and didn’t talk about not trusting the President. But let a black man become President and suddenly the things he’s done: rescuing the banking system (following Bush), rescuing GM and thousands of jobs, and the stimulus package that fixes a lot of serious infrastructure problems while creating a lot of jobs, all those things are some kind of Satanic plot.
    No, the Tea Partiers may or may not be mainstream (I certainly hope not!) but they are clearly greedy and racist.

  • jestrfyl

    This weeks Gospel lectionary reading is Luke’s version of the Lord’s Prayer. I expect it is completely counter to the Tea Party self-serving, isolationist, exclusive orientation. Basically they are angry and what to be angry and no one can stop their tantrums. Eventually they will give up on the media-prostitutes like Beck and begin t listen once more to wisdom that has served well for a very long time. Their attempts at re-writing history and pre-adolescent “you-can’t-make-me” chants will wane and we can return to some civil discourse and semi-intelligent discussions on the issues.
    And the “Tea Party” was not even about tea – no one gets that angry about tea. It was about New England Tea – rum. Now that is a reason to dress up and try to misdirect the blame!

  • nnmns

    Peter 2: 9The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
    10But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.
    So, yes, the Tea Partiers are unbiblical.

  • Horatio Hornblatt

    nnmns,
    What [in your own feverish communist mind] makes TEA Partiers greedy?
    TEA Partiers are rebelling against heavily unjust taxes just like the Jews did in Israel against the Roman occupiers!
    That’s NOT Biblical?
    You don’t know the Bible very well!

  • Horatio Hornblatt

    nnmns,
    Your contemptuous misuse of teh Word is profoundly sinful!

  • Horatio Hornblatt

    Socialists, on the other hand, have killed millions of Christians:
    Lenin
    Stalin
    Mao Zedung
    Ho Chi Minh [and his current day successors]
    Kruschev
    Kosygin
    Andropov
    Castro
    Guaverra
    Chavez

  • Al

    These individuals have it totally wrong. They have been indoctrinated to Obama fascism.
    There is no such thing as collective salvation but only individual salvation. Thus this social justice diatribe has been considered demonic by the present pope in Rome.
    These people have not read Summa Theologica by St. Thomas Aquinas. If they read thoese writings they would have to realize that it is individual salvation and not this collective bunch of crap that they are putting forth.
    I have seen communism and know rather well how it slithers into the mainstream. If those so called evangelicals wish to debate these issues I would then say BRING IT ON!!

  • nnmns

    HH: “TEA Partiers are rebelling against heavily unjust taxes just like the Jews did in Israel against the Roman occupiers!”
    Taxes are unjust if you want the money for yourself, no matter what it might be used for. It would make public universities cheaper for middle class parents so their kids can get ahead. It would make health care available for people who can’t get it. It would pay for people to regulate the financial system better so we’re less likely to have meltdowns like the Bush recession. And on and on.
    Yes, Tea Partiers are greedy because any number of things have been done and can be done by the government using tax money and they just want it for themselves. Americans used to understand life was better for everyone if they helped each other out. Now several of you are just about “Me, me, me!”

  • SOS

    The NAACP’s slanderous racism charges fell flat so now oba-mao is trying another angle to smear the Tea Party. Despicable, YES, surprising, NO!!!!

  • Christy

    UNBIBLICAL??? WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? Most of the people at the Tea Parties are christians. Try to find another angle cause this one isn’t going to work! I am sick and tired of IN NAME ONLY Christians trying to tell Christians what they believe. IF YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN TO A TEA PARTY DON’T TALK ABOUT IT PLEASE! Been to several myself and it is the most inspiring patriotic thing you can attend! We just want Washington to STOP SPENDING!

  • nnmns

    Yes, for heaven’s sake STOP SPENDING because it might help other people more than it would help you and that would be unChristian, right?
    You people’s heads have been seriously messed with.
    And when you use smears like “oba-mao” you show you aren’t serious, just mad that your tax money might do other people some good.
    And what does “collective salvation” have to do with this? We’re talking about real needs in this world, not whatever might or might happen in another world.

  • Peter Ramsey

    Liberation theology is Marxism not Christianity.
    Liberal Christians make good candidates as apologists for the Obama administration policies of socialism and religious pluralism.
    Obama once remarked that there are “many ways to salvation,” contradicting Jesus who said, “I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except by me.” John 14:6
    Once you get onto this slippery slope, there is no difference between Islamic Jihad and Christian doctrine.

  • John

    Is the Obama regime unbiblical?

  • mitch

    The “Church” is suppose to fill the needs of those “sincerely” in need for food, clothing, etc, etc. Unfortunately, the 21st century “Church” in general spends approximately 98% of their annual budget on itself. So the failure to provide for the poor is at the steps of the local Church and not the biblical responsibility of the government. There is no biblical basis for “social justice”.
    In certain respects, the Tea Party Movement, as with all movements, even the evangelical progressive movement, is un-biblical. Where in the Bible does the teaching exist that I am to become politically involved? Jesus did a few times; calling politico’s vipers and whited sepulchers. There are only three types of giving biblically described, giving to; to insure that the Pastor paid; the poor of the fellowship; giving to the poor in general.
    I am also charged with “paying” unto Caesar that which belongs to Caesar’s, whether I agree or not. So is the Tea Party un-biblical, yes, just as your organization is, standing in judgment.

  • http://whitestonefellowship.spaces.live.com/default.aspx Michael J. Young, Sr.

    You (Alfredo Garcia and this Blog Site) have a socialist* WORLDVIEW and that is why you wonder if the Tea Party is unbiblical. It is proper in the thinking of socialists, AND in your mind apparently, to (1.) Legislate your definition of morality and ethics (2.) Enforce your MORALS & ETHICS legislation with the use of sanctions, punishment and penalties imposed on the ‘non believers’ (3.) Reduce Christianity to social works without the need for a personal and supernatural Salvation by God’s grace through faith in Jesus Christ.
    Furthermore, Chrisitanity tells us that GOOD WORKS will follow a surrender of one’s personal views to those of Christ, but, GOOD WORKS (social activism) are not necessary for salvation.
    Christianity also tells us that “the poor will ALWAYS be with us”. (Why is that?)
    Christianity also tells us about GOOD WORKS John 6:28 ¶ Therefore they said to Him, “What shall we do, so that we may work the works of God?”
    29 Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent.” (end of discussion – and the crowds didn’t like this answer either)
    Finally, you say that giving is down in the Christian community to 2.5% to the church and .37 to charities, thereby implying that Christians can’t be trusted to give to worthy social causes, so we NEED government to force us to do good!
    I have heard it said you can prove anything with numbers. I have also heard it said that “liars figure and figures lie”. Please refer to George Barna’s studies on giving. They break down the sub-catagories of giving. It’s the LIBERAL RELIGIOUS SOCIALISTS, so-called believers and casual church attender’s giving that bring the overall numbers down.
    You view is a product of socialist and marxist ideology being taught in our schools over the last 50 years. You are infected, so you actually believe what you are saying. It’s just that you are a “TOWER OF BABEL believer”.
    I encourage you to DO your version of christianity, but, without forcing others to DO your version.
    (*Socialism is a general term for the political and economic theory that advocates a system of collective ownership and management of the means of production and distribution of goods, enforced by an often authoritarian and autocratic government, at the expense of the sanctity of private property, free markets and capitalism .
    Capitalism stresses creativity, competition, personal respsonsibility and profit; socialism calls for involuntary cooperation and social service as defined by elitist religious humanists, secularists and atheists.)

  • nnmns

    *Socialism is a general term for the political and economic theory that advocates a system of collective ownership and management of the means of production and distribution of goods”
    That’s a reasonable definition and if you open your eyes you’ll see that’s not happening and President Obama and Nancy Pelosi and all your other demons don’t want it. But you’ve been lied to so much and accepted so many lies you can’t see what’s plain to see.
    Your preacher should have told you about your Christian duty to the sick and poor but I guess he gets better donations if he downplays that. I’m going to remind you why you will be better off if your fellow men and women are.
    If you expect a man or woman to watch their children starve to death because no one helps them, you’re a fool. If you expect a man to act the same when he has no hope for a better life (I’m not talking about an afterlife, I’m talking about the life you are so eager to enjoy right here), you are a fool. People with hope for themselves and their children are better members of society than people who see their society doesn’t give a damn about them.
    And if you think the figures given above are way wrong you’re a fool. When people give what they want to to help others they want to help themselves a lot more. Just look at yourself.
    So it’s to your own benefit to pay reasonable taxes and to make sure they don’t get siphoned off to officials and bureaucrats and thieves, just like you need to in your business dealings and your church.
    But it’s to your own harm to let the poor and the sick know society doesn’t give a damn about them because then they won’t give a damn about society and, like it or not, society includes you.

  • http://riffenberg.wordpress.com/ Karen

    Pelosi and the DEms do want socialism and if YOU would open your eyes,you would see that but you see thata and you know it. Collective management and distribution???? and…. who gets to say how it’s distributed and how it’s collected? Will Nancy drive a smart car? Will she turn the thermostat down in the winter and up in the summer? Will she take public transportation? Will she sacrifice and eat only beans so everyone in Africa has beans too? How about If I was the leader and mandated that to her? I can’t recall Christ ever preaching to the governments about what they should be doing. He gave several examples of correct business practices and free enterprise to indivs. in the gospel. Still Christ had bigger fish to fry than the present world. No-one has the right to take,er I mean steal from one to give to another. Anything given should be given freely. People who take the handouts respond differently to a gift of charity from the heart than from the mafia govt. Hurricane katrina was better served by the church chariites than by the local,state or federal govt. Parishoners have given greatly to build and support hospitals,universites etc. There was a time when even if a person was starving they would not steal. Now morality is relative. Now, morality depends on the situation. Necessity is the mother of invention. Handouts don’t help. They hinder.

  • Tony

    If you open your eyes, you see that is exactly what is happening. The destruction that is global Socialism is just gaining steam as the last bastion of individual liberty is falling piece by piece to the takers, the power-mad, and the self-righteous Robin Hoods of Marxism.
    The housing finance industry is now mostly owned in many second-hand ways by the government. That is collective ownership. We own GM. We own the entire student loan industry. Health care is now supplemented by the collective fund. Farms are subsidized by the collective fund. Government is growing faster than private industry. And government has no income that is not taken from someone else. Science is funded mostly by government now, so it’s no wonder no innovation seems to come down the pike, unless it’s an easier way to cook, or use your closet space.
    And the poor would do wonderfully once they realize Society doesn’t care about them. I know because that is what I did. Once I realized that if I wasn’t going to do it, no one else was, life got better. I started busting my butt. I stopped worrying as much about where the money would come from, I knew that I could always find a source of income. And I did. This isn’t an abstract concept for me. I am living it.
    Helping yourself is the beginning of charity. Money isn’t something that magically happens. It requires work. Charity should and does come from someone who feels the need. I know a woman who has dedicated over 25 years of her life to charity. Not money, but time and work. She doesn’t work for an organization. She just does charity. She gives what people need. You need blankets, she makes them. You need toys for Christmas, she spends all year collecting and cleaning and restoring them. I have seen more charity from this one woman than I have ever seen from government. But you’ll never see her donate money to the church, or the Red Cross. You’ll never hear her say the government is a good place for charity. She’ll tell you it is always individuals, and small groups who do the best charity. And Charity is volunteering, it is never a duty. To require charity is to expect the opposite of the very essence of Charity.
    When you take from the rich and give to the poor, you better believe it’s theft. The rich actually had to do more than exist to make the money. You are robbing someone of what they have done in order to hand it to someone who has not done. Charity requires someone to make the money. Charity is a giving of the heart. Socialism is the the leaching of the soul. Because socialism is a collection of parasites telling the host that his duty is to survive for the good of those who feed off of him.
    We live in a day and age where work doesn’t even require mobility. You want to help the poor? A $500 computer and some night classes will go farther than a year of social welfare. Because the rich, for the most part, aren’t rich because someone handed them money. When I see someone riding the bus while using a $200 phone, wearing $100 sneakers I realize that their priorities are skewed. And I’ve seen that a lot. When I rode the bus, I had a pre-paid phone that cost me $30. I wore shoes until they got holes in them. I bought clothes when the old ones wore out. I was poor.
    And I have a disabled son. And I went to the government about that. And I went again. And again. And the government failed. Over and over again. The government is still failing. I know the socialist system. I know the safety nets you hold to be precious. They are not populated by Apostles who said, “It is not me but God who helped you.”
    No, the “safety nets” are peopled by those who say “It is not me who made the rules that allow your son’s $100,000 hospital bill to be unpaid. If you had made $100 less this month we could help you. But regulations, you know?”
    Or, if my son doesn’t qualify because his older brother got some extra hours at his job, well, then the $700 in monthly prescriptions becomes mine to pay. Shouldn’t that offset the extra income? No, expenses don’t count against income in the land of government socialism. It’s not like my son gets cured when I make money, but that’s how it works in the eyes of government. The reason I stopped looking to government is that I KNOW that government is not the solution. Nor are other people. I am the solution.
    And to David Gushee, if you think Ayn Rand is incompatible with Christianity, perhaps you should read the Bible more. Christians are brothers because we made the individual choice. We recognize each other as fellow warriors. But we cannot carry each other’s sins, or fight each other’s battles. We didn’t make our choice because other people said we should. And we know that we stand next to people who will face God’s wrath, and we still embrace our own individual salvation. We tell them the truth and when those of future damnation reject us, we shake even their dust from our shoes and walk away, leaving them to face their fate alone.
    When God’s Chosen People are threatened, he destroys the threat even down to the children. When Man defiled God’s creation, God drowned them. When they threatened his plans, he opened the earth to swallow them whole. God is the ultimate individualist. The only time he attempts to relay who he is, he says, “I AM”. That is individualism. He is a god who is complete. He sets the rules, and he doesn’t care if you don’t like them. God has more in common with John Gault then you will ever feel comfortable with. Read Revelations and see that God has declared that he will stop the motor of the world. And then look at the world and watch it sputtering.

  • Ed

    NO! David Gushee is just a shill for the Socialist Obama Adminstration, which in itself places greater restrictions upon ‘charitable’ contributions which Mr. Gushee completely ignores. This would make David Gushee and the Obama Administration which is overwhelmingly Marxist; hypocrites of the first order, also quite ‘un-biblical’.
    The Tea Party movement is not about Christianity per se, but small limited government as set up by our nations founding fathers that maximizes independent freedom and liberty to it’s citizenry and places constraints upon the government. This also follows the result of these policies of ‘choice’, opportunities for all, not just those that Mr. Gushee or Mr. Obama would deem ‘eligible’ for the government handouts of the redistribution of someone else’s wealth for food stamps, welfare, etc., which creates dependence; not independence. Sooner or later you run out of other peoples money and with it comes loss of freedom and liberty to the tune of servitude and enslavement.
    So is David Gushee a slave holding apologist?

  • FairTaxGuy

    Mr. Gushee has been mis-led by the Progressives. Jesus did not instruct us to feed the poor by stealing from others and then giving it to the poor. That is EXACTLY what you are advocating.
    The Tea Party movement is actually more in-line with Christian teaching because it advocates freely giving to the poor through your own choice. And low-tax, limited government economics generates a great deal more wealth from which both jobs AND extra money are created that can help more poor people in a more dignified manner than a government program where they know the money was confiscated from people through taxation.
    Were you not all against Communism in the Soviet Union? Progressivism takes us CLOSER to Communism. The Tea Party movement wants to move us in a direction AWAY from Communism and toward self-reliance and the dignity that self-reliance brings.

  • FairTaxGuy

    Your comment about charitable giving is rooted in a false alternative. Just because charitable giving to churches is down does not mean charitable giving to the poor is down. In fact, the opposite is true. Americans are the most generous people in the world, and we give to the poor directly in most cases rather than through the church.

  • IntegrityFirst

    Charitable giving is down because the government has slowly been eroding away people’s incomes by taxing it in every possible way known to man. When people have less money to take care of themselves, they will give less and less. But I agree, Americans ARE the most generous in the world, and it has nothing to do with the government taking (aka “Stealing”) it and redistributing it to whom it thinks deserves it. God is very clear about stealing now… remember those commandments. The government CANNOT give to some one else what it has not TAKEN first. And does anyone honestly think the government can do a better job at deciding who needs charity than the individual? Honestly, the government has not run anything well, EVER. The government is wholly corrupt, wasteful, fraudulent, and bent on obtaining more power and money for itself and the cronies. You know Congress makes $179,000 per year AND get meals paid for them?
    Studies have been done to prove that Liberals (in general — progressives) give LESS money to charity BY A LONG SHOT, than do the aka “religious-right” (you know the ones who cling to God and guns?) Funny how the liberals tell you what to do and don’t follow their own advice.
    This “collective salvation” is the devil sneaking his way into your life. Think about what these two words mean. They mean that I cannot be saved unless you are saved, and everyone else is saved. Pretty scary if you believe in this. But Jesus dies on the cross for our individual salvation.

  • Rob

    Wallis and the rest of the so called “Social Justice Christians” need to get saved and embrace the BIBLICAL Jesus not the psuedo Jesus they worship who merely coming in Jesus’s name and pretends to be Him

  • Scotty

    These so called “progressives” are blasphemers who pervert the Bible to fit their own twisted, satanic ideology. Woe unto those who call evil good and good evil! They are collectivist to the core. They are not Christians at all, they are what the Bible calls false brethren. Government by God is individualist, government by man is collectivist. Collectivism makes no distinction between right and wrong or between good and evil. It treats everyone all the same, it is government of “the masses.” Collectivism punishes the whole for the actions of a few. (Gun control laws come to mind, for example.) Collectivism also practices unequal application of the law, it is government by elitists who create one set of rules for themselves and another set for us serfs. God’s laws, on the other hand, apply to everyone equally, rich and poor, kings and commoners alike. The Bible is the ultimate book of equality! God does not practice collectivism because it it is an abomination and a perversion of His laws. Unlike collectivist/progressives, God DOES differentiate between right and wrong and good and evil. When He was about to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah, He told Abraham that He would not destroy the righteous along with the wicked. He separates the wheat from the tares and the goats from the sheep. And on judgment day, He will separate those whose names are written in the book of life and those whose are not. Those who are written in His book will go to be with Him for eternity, those who are not will perish in the everlasting fire of hell! You can’t get much more individualist than that! We must allow each individual to reap what they have sown. If you sow good seeds by working hard, you will reap the rewards of your labor. If, on the other hand, you sow the seeds of laziness, you will get nothing! As the Bible says, “If a man does not work, he shall not eat.” It’s really a very simple truth, it’s hard to believe that those on the left can be so stupid and lack any kind of common sense! And now, I will end with some encouraging words from Scripture. This shows what God’s government will be like when He returns. It says; “And they shall build houses, and inhabit them, and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them. They shall not build, and another inhabit, they shall not plant, and another eat, for as the days of a tree are as the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.” – Isaiah 65:21-22 (KJV)

  • Eugene Edwards

    It is sad when people totally miss the words of Christ, or twist them to fit their own agendas. I have been a minister for over 20 years. And every year there is some group trying to twist the Scriptures to fit their own definition. We are told to love one another and help those who need help, whatever that may be. Politics and Christianity are not a match made in heaven, but only in the minds of people who wish to try and make the Scripture fit their words. Christianity is not a socialist religion, even though we meet in churches for worship. The Scriptures are very clear about these issues – and we need to read the Scriptures as they are, not as we want them to read. The tea party movement is a very good way to express our need for a different government – one who listens to and respects the people – our current government does not do that. You might want to check out the book of Revelation – it is sad when even Christians can’t come together and “come let us reason together, says the Lord.” Amen.

  • http://theculturewatch.com Tom Snyder

    The New Testament advocates private charity to the poor and needy, not government handouts from tax money collected at the point of a gun. It also says that family members should care for their immediate families and their fellow Christians, apparently first. It also indicates that churches can take up collections for the poor. But, it never talks about the “common good” in connection with helping the poor and needy, and certainly not through the power of the government. Wallis and Gushee are way off base and fail to mention passages like Exodus 20:17, Exodus 23:3, 1 Samuel 8:1-20, Deuteronomy 14:28, 29, Numbers 18:24, Matthew 6:1-4, 1 Timothy 5:3-16, 1 Thessalonians 4:9-12, and 2 Thessalonians 3:6-15. Wallis and Gushee need to mentor under people like Joseph Farah and me, and follow the Bible and the U.S. Constitution and Declaration of Independence, not Karl Marx and Barack Obama – Tom Snyder, http://www.theculturewatch.com and FilmDoctor on Twitter.

  • nnmns

    So you’ve decided what we (as a nation) have done for decades is illegal. Interesting.
    Ok tax savers, how do you feel about the military budget. We spend as much on “security” as the rest of the world combined, including a lot of our allies. Are you ready to take on one of the biggest drains on our treasury?
    And you freedom lovers, are you ready to declare that women and families should have the freedom to have an abortion when they need one, as decided by them?

  • Destiny Palmer

    Who are you to judge who a Christian is and is not. That is the Lord’s business not yours. Be careful you are stepping in to the role of God. Not good and you should know that. Think about it?
    Destiny

  • Gwyddion9

    “Is the Tea Party Unbiblical?”
    …of course not… ask any conservative Christian and they’ll tell you no! They’re following ‘god’s word’ (as they interpret it).
    I think the only ones they have deluded is themselves.

  • Mary

    Is the tea party Biblical? Are you Biblical? Are they having an influence on their society, their government? Are you? Are they attempting to be salt and light? Are you? Just because you may not agree with their message doesn’t mean they don’t have the right to proclaim the message. I don’t agree with the message of Islam, either, but apparently in Detroit they have the right to broadcast the Islamic call to prayer by loud speaker 5 times per day throughout the city, or at least throughout the Islamic portion.
    To the person who complained about the cost of defense–let’s not play dumb. The cost of defense isn’t the problem and you know it. The problem is the (1) cost of welfare and its companion medicaid, (2) the cost of an open border, (3) the cost of un-Constitutional legislation, (3) the cost of Obama’s czars, (3) the cost of Michelle Obama’s ladies in waiting, (4) the cost of the Congressional retirement plan, health plan, perks, Nancy’s airplane, Congressional staff and overhead. You fix those things, make Congress pay into Social Security like the rest of us, and you’ll find out just how much money we have.
    Furthermore, build the fence, deport the illegal aliens AND their children. There is only ONE language in this country–ENGLISH! Learn it! No translating voting ballots into Spanish or any other language. Learn English or suffer the consequences. No dual language classes in schools, no flags but Old Glory. If you don’t like it, we’ll help you find a country more to your tastes.
    Drill for the oil that’s under OUR soil. Sell our grain for whatever the foreigners want for the goods they wish to sell (oil, wine, merchandise, etc.). Sounds reasonable to me. If we wish to be charitable to poor countries, that is our prerogative.
    Now for the stupidity of the abortion comment…freedom is the liberty to do what is right, not a license to do what is right in one’s own eyes. The Israelites had liberty and freedom, but still lived under the Ten Commandments. Theirs was an orderly society. So is ours. So, the argument that tea partiers are Libertarians really falls flat on its face because I don’t know one single solitary tea partier who believes in anarchy.
    The next time you choose a group about which you know nothing about to criticize, maybe you ought to do some personal research first, maybe even attend a few meetings or, God forbid, attend a protest or two. You might learn a thing or two.

  • Robert Berry

    Who ever said THEY are Christians and the TEA party is non- Christian is a liar and obviously an Obama Marxist…..

  • mac

    There is NO “christian virtue” in stealing money from one person to give it to another. Just because it is government endorsed, does not give it a righteous position. This is called robbery. Thus to enable theft via government is robbery and endorsement of such is a corruption of christian principle.
    When Jesus talks about clothing the naked, feeding the hungry, he’s talking to us as individuals. [The Bible doesn't] suggest that government is the institution that he designed to help the poor.” He knew it was theft.
    Those “christians”, like liberal politicians who desire to steal money from some and give it to another, are plain wrong, especially when you use the governments gun to force the money from anothers pocket, because of their own cowardice in trying tro steal it yourself. We give on a personal level. Try it and learn to get gratification from your own giving.

  • mac

    How can Christians give more when the inefficient wasteful government steals more and more of our money, leaving nothing to give? So let me ask the self-serving self-righteous progressives why it is shown they give even less than us, if we give so little. my last comment:
    But avoid foolish questions and genealogies and contentions, and strivings about the Law, for they are unprofitable and vain.
    Titus 3:9

  • nnmns

    I don’t know what you see when you read this but I see greedy people grabbing at excuses for their greed being acceptable. And of course greedy preachers are happy to provide some and gabbing heads gain power by goading them on.
    These folks apparently really believe they are good and embattled people but to keep from paying the taxes that make our country work they are willing to divide it and cut it off at its knees.

  • CJM

    I speak from experiene and know, beyond any doubt, that religious groups are not as Christian as they want you to believe. How they treat others who are not of the same bent is deplorable. The Tea-Party Movement has nothing to do with anyone’s religion—but it does have everything to do with the preservation of our US Constitution and Declaration of Independence so that all of you may enjoy the freedoms our Founding Fathers laid before us. These great men kept GOD at the forefront and for anyone to chastise a group who is trying to preserve this is amoral and certainly anti-Biblical teachings. Just because a person has more than you do, it does not make them greedy or anti-anything. For those who say these individuals are greedy, let me be the first to ask you to hand over your money and prized possessions along with any excess groceries you might have—bet your bottom dollar you won’t hand over so much as a red penny; so who out there isn’t greedy????

  • http://www.teapartiers.blogspot.com Bruce Majors

    FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski has tapped Beliefnet.com president and co-founder Steven Waldman to head a commission assessment of the state of the media and recommendations for preserving it in a time of technological upheaval.
    http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/366743-Beliefnet_s_Waldman_To_Advise_FCC_On_Preserving_Media.php

  • robert annable

    The Evangelicals have never cared what the Bible or Jesus said. They just “garden pick” what they can use for brainwashing their dumb followers. They supported torture more than any religious group. I wonder how many of them wore “What would Jesus do?” bracelets. May they all be “raptured” straight to hell!

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