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The future of religious liberty in Connecticut

posted by Dave Banack

A Mirror of Justice post provides some links related to the proposed Connecticut legislation implementing gay marriage in that state in response to a 2008 state supreme court decision, Kerrigan v. Commissioner of Publilc Health.

In partricular, the MOJ post includes a link to the text of a short letter on religious liberty authored by four legal scholars. The letter warns that, if the Connecticut bill “is passed in its current form — without religious-conscience protections — many religious organizations and individuals will be forced to engage in conduct that violates their deepest religious beliefs, and religious organizations would be limited in crucial aspects of their religious exercise.”

The predicted result in sorting out this inevitable clash of rights: “the volume of new litigation will be immense.” I think that’s going to happen regardless of what the Connecticut legislature does.



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jestrfyl

posted April 22, 2009 at 11:21 am


I have as part of my understanding with any couple who comes to me for their wedding, the right to say no. If I do not feel they are properly prepared for the rigors of marriage or if I simply feel they are doing it for the wrong reasons I can say no. I have said no. This will remain true for any couple who comes asking me to officiate at their wedding.
There is an itch to all this. As a minister – in this instance – I am am acting as an officer of the state. I find this to be uncomfortable. I would prefer that the church simply celebrate and bless marriages and that the state function be removed. This may require a fundamental change in marriage laws – and a cultural change as well. They (the state) don’t ask me about the dissolution of marriages – though that would be as appropriate as the role I play at the start of the marriage.



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Mordred08

posted April 22, 2009 at 8:33 pm


“if the Connecticut bill ‘is passed in its current form — without religious-conscience protections — many religious organizations and individuals will be forced to engage in conduct that violates their deepest religious beliefs…’”
Here’s something I never see conservatives take into consideration: the fact that there is a religious minority in this country for whom same-sex marriage is not a violation of their beliefs. They would have no problem performing these marriages. And it seems to me that all these propositions and amendments that have been passed over the last few years are only giving ammunition to the religious left, who might argue that the government is violating the first amendment by passing laws that promote another religion’s beliefs by defining their beliefs as legally invalid.
For example, imagine how Jewish people would react if some Christian group convinced the government to pass a resolution declaring that Jesus Christ was the Messiah (in fact, I probably just inspired someone to write a bill). If it’s all about religious liberty, as you guys seem to be saying, why would this (defining marriage based solely on conservative religious beliefs) be any different?



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posted April 23, 2009 at 9:14 am


The religious conscience provisions are counterproductive. Once the state recognizes marriage between persons of the same gender as valid, why should the state explicitly allow for discrimination against same-sex couples? I don’t recall similar legislative provisions being enacted after the 13th and 14th Amendments allowing religious organizations to refuse to serve blacks. Oh, right, those were the Jim Crow laws. And look how well those turned out for race relations in our country.



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Gwyddion9

posted April 25, 2009 at 12:07 am


wow, more fear tactics being used by the RR.
Who’d have thought? Please, this is another lie and they know it. No one is forced to marry anyone against their beliefs for any reason.
This is simply another use of fear to make people believe what is not true.



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Your Name

posted May 1, 2009 at 2:00 pm


“The letter warns that, if the Connecticut bill “is passed in its current form — without religious-conscience protections — many religious organizations and individuals will be forced to engage in conduct that violates their deepest religious beliefs”
And what a crock “this letter” is, as is his post. Let’s see, did Catholics have to get special religious conscience protections to allow them to refuse to marry divorced persons? Non-Catholics?
Thought not.
Ah, but you Mormons are pretty good at running lies and scare tactics to attempt to deceive the public (perfected in your Prop H8 campaign). You and Rod Dreher bear so much false witness, ill-disguised as fear mongering that you’re a disgrace to Christiantiy.



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Husband

posted May 1, 2009 at 2:06 pm


You presume to speak of “religious liberty” and yet Mormons go to such lengths to prevent those faiths that do perform same-sex marriages from having them recognized by the government.
Bunch of freakin’ hypocrites. You know nothing of liberties. You specialize in taking them away from others.



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