Lynn v. Sekulow

Lynn v. Sekulow


President Obama: Does He Get It?

posted by Jay Sekulow

Barry,

 

I would not use that label to identify the President.  I will say, however, that President Obama continues to embrace and promote pro-abortion policies that many Americans strongly disagree with.

 

Take the outcome of the election – an unmistakable repudiation of the President’s policies. As columnist George Will put it, “This election was a nationwide recoil against Barack Obama’s idea of unlimited government.”

 

He’s right.  And, voters also sent another message: they don’t want the President’s pro-abortion, government-run health care law.  It’s clear that most Americans who went to the polls oppose ObamaCare and want it repealed.  Exit polling found that 59% of those who voted on election day favor repealing the law – numbers that have been consistent since the troubling health care measure was passed in March.

 

As the tidal wave moved across the nation election night, many Democrats who ran in House races found out first-hand that ObamaCare is not only unpopular, it is toxic. The Hill reported that, in many cases, a vote for ObamaCare translated into a defeat.  At the same time, candidates who ran against ObamaCare – including those who work in the medical field – were elected. 

 

I know you don’t believe that ObamaCare clears the way for taxpayer funds to be used for abortions.  We’ve had this discussion before. 

 

The fact is that ObamaCare quite possibly represents the largest expansion of federally-subsidized abortion in history.  Under Title I, Subtitle D, Section 1303, as amended by Title X, Subtitle A, Section 10104, this law allows federal subsidies for Qualified Health Plans that cover abortion.  In an attempt to disguise this fact, the same section also establishes a gimmicky accounting requirement that directs these subsidies be applied to a non-abortion portion of the premium. This, of course, does nothing to change the fact that the federally subsidized plan is still covering abortion. It is also directly contrary to the way abortion funding is treated under other federal programs governed by the Hyde Amendment. In those cases, subsidies for plans that cover abortion are strictly prohibited.

 

I don’t expect to change your mind on that. The pro-abortion language in the law is only part of the problem, though. There are serious constitutional concerns as well.

 

We’ve filed a federal lawsuit in Washington, D.C. challenging the individual mandate provision – a violation of the Commerce Clause.  The complaint argues:  “Mandating that individuals purchase health insurance is an unprecedented and unconstitutional expansion of congressional power, as Congress has never before required individuals to involuntarily buy a good or service under the guise of its Commerce Clause authority.”  

 

We’ve also filed an amicus brief supporting Virginia’s legal challenge on behalf of 28 members of Congress and more than 70,000 Americans in support Virginia’s challenge.   A federal judge recently heard arguments in that case  and a decision is expected by the end of the year.

Barry, whether it’s through litigation or legislation – the fact is that ObamaCare is in big trouble.  No one denies that there’s a critical need for health care reform. But most Americans - including Christian conservatives – don’t want this law. ObamaCare is not the reform that America needs or deserves. 

While jobs and improving the economy are front-and-center, Republican leaders also understand that a top priority is getting rid of ObamaCare. Soon-to-be House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) put it into perspective:  “I believe that the health care bill that was enacted by the current Congress will kill jobs in America, ruin the best health care system in the world, and bankrupt our country,” said Boehner. “That means we have to do everything we can to try to repeal this bill and replace it with common sense reforms to bring down the cost of health care.”

 

There’s plenty of evidence to suggest Boehner is correct.  The Obama Administration quietly exempted 30 of the nation’s biggest companies from ObamaCare – giving them a pass – because they couldn’t afford it.  The biggest beneficiary of the exemptions:  New York’s teachers union which campaigned for Obama in 2008 and backed his health care plan.

 

And, now, AARP, which helped secure passage of ObamaCare with its endorsement, is telling its members to expect hikes in health care premiums because of this law. 

 

Boehner also understands that a majority of the American people not only oppose the health care law, they rejected the way it was done – the way it was forced on Americans.  He’s calling for an end to “secrecy, arrogance, and the abuse of power” that dominated the health care process in the House. 

 

Sure, there are critics who say the legislation to repeal ObamaCare won’t clear the Senate and, if it somehow does, will be vetoed by the President.  Maybe so, but there are other ways to get rid of this flawed law.  Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY ) said he’s prepared to take action to defund ObamaCare. 

 

The American people sent a message to President Obama. They want change – and they want ObamaCare repealed.

 

Perhaps, the only person who is not listening to the American people may be the President himself.  He said he’s ready “to listen” to Republicans and their ideas and has said he is open to only “tweaking” the health care law. 

 

In the aftermath of one of the biggest political shifts in the House in decades – and in the face of strong opposition to ObamaCare from the American people, the President still proudly proclaimed that passing the flawed health care legislation was “the right thing to do.” 

 

As one editorial concluded, “President Obama still doesn’t get it.” 

 

Let’s hope he does.  There’s too much at stake.

 

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HG

posted November 5, 2010 at 12:44 pm


Will McConnell Boehner the President? The Turtle will try.
I have only one word of advice for President Obama. “VETO”.
When President Obama gets re-elected, will that be a repudiation of the House? How exactly does that work Jay?



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Rich

posted November 5, 2010 at 1:45 pm


Apparently, Sekulow is myopic and selective in which election results he looks at. If he were to be a thoughtful individual rather than a shill for theocrats around the country he just might have noticed that Amendment 62, the ‘personhood’ deal in Colorado, went down in flames. 71% of the people rejected this measure and repudiated the notion that abortion should be made illegal. Yet, Sekulow, forever intent on forcing the American people to bend to the will of religious zealots across the country is blind to this little fact. It is not hard to understand why.
ObamaCare is messy. Whether is violates the limits of the Commerce Clause is clearly debatable, I tend to think it probably does. We should replace it with a single payer system. The odd thing about all this is that the messy nature of ObamaCare is due to the fact that Republicans have blocked any movement towards a logical single payer system because they care more about the profits of large corporations rather than the health of Americans. So much for the ‘pro-life’ party. Kind of an odd deal when they would gladly force a victim of rape to bear the child and then sit back and allow the baby to die if need medical intervention were beyond the financial means of the mother. They would however provide some comfort to the mother by consoling her with such phrases as “Gosh, it must suck to be you”.
As for a sweeping mandate that the government bend to the will of Teabagger paranoids, I just ain’t seeing it. It is a split electorate, as it usualy is. Most races were in the area of 52/48 or so. Some were blowouts, most not. I have a dim view of Obama in almost all regards, I think he is a moderate Republican at best. The Dems erred when they chose Obama over Hilary, a big mistake. Obama just doesn’t have the political savvy to negotiate the labyrinth of Congress. He has failed to mandate that these stupid faith based organizations not engage in discriminatory hiring practices. He even allowed his administration to argue for the Arizona aid to parochial schools case now before the Supremes. He does this because he doesn’t want to alienate religious voters. His mistake has been to pander to the electorate rather than lead on principles. That is not change we can count on, just politics as usual. However, you can only get the best you can get. Obama reminds me of a politician from the 70s. That is still better then the 1850s attitude of the Repubs.



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HG

posted November 5, 2010 at 2:09 pm


No disagreement from me, Rich. I observe the shortcomings you mention with trepidation. If this is what we got from a Democratic President with support in Congress, I am not hopeful. This timidity is something which doesn’t suit the Office of the President.



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TeaPartiers=Racist

posted November 5, 2010 at 2:21 pm


wow, so jaded. This must be why the tea party is becoming popular. because of stupid people like you. Half of the comments you’ve made towards Obama are racist, just like the tea-baggers.



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WOW!?

posted November 5, 2010 at 2:27 pm


“what is it?” If it is white skin then yea you’re right. If it is providing 30 million Americans can have ACCESS to health care, then I’d say he does. Why are the few wealthy Americans being so vocal against the health care bill? Because they have “it(health care)” and they make enough money to attend tea party rallies and political events so why should they support this movement. The top 1% should not be making America’s decisions. Making a vague statement like that shows that you should not be a journalist, but you should be ashamed of yourself. #completelyworthless



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Troy

posted November 5, 2010 at 2:34 pm


No, Jay, you wouldn’t use that label to identify the President (not where anyone but cronies could hear you), but you embrace those who do by failing to condemn it. The two aren’t far enough apart to convince me that your aren’t just as slimy as they are.



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Catherine

posted November 5, 2010 at 4:03 pm


“Tweaking” Schmeaking.
“ObamaCare” = the real OxyMORON.
Rich aka HG = panties in a twist over the most recent and largest shift in the HOUSE!!
Sorry dude..you lose AGAIN.
The house, the house, the house is on “FIRAHH” !
Jay is correct. Obama”care” is unpopular, toxic, and I say–
Deadly.
On a lighter note: I found another video of Rich & HG.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCmJQIm2LZw



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HG

posted November 5, 2010 at 4:21 pm


Well Catherine, I prefer to see what they actually do (if anything) before deciding whether to be upset or not. You see, I voted Republican from the time of Gerald Ford up until GW’s second term; when I became disenchanted due to bungled security, a completely unnecessary war (complete with torture, loss of American life, treasury, and respect), the trashing of the Constitution and the economy.
Your method of debate, name-calling and ridicule combined with presenting no comment of substance is emblematic of low IQ. No wonder you don’t answer any of our questions.



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Rich

posted November 5, 2010 at 4:30 pm


Catherine,
Hey there. Didn’t watch the YouTube thing. Figured it was dumb. But even better, you ever going to answer that question about what the legal penalty should be for a woman who has an abortion? You are not going to do a Sharon Angle on us are you and say you won’t discuss it until after abortion is outlawed are you?



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HG

posted November 5, 2010 at 4:32 pm


Oh, sorry for presenting facts in a logical response, I know how you like to avoid those things. (It probably makes me guilty of “attacking women” or “murder” from the Catholic perspective.)



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Catherine

posted November 5, 2010 at 4:40 pm


HG,
You need to have thick skin before starting with nasty comments, and hurling insults at others. You and your better half started the “name calling”. So, maybe a little cheese with your whinnnnnnnnnne??
Also, you should really lighten up alittle.
After-all, I know you have a sense of humor as evidenced in your video below:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCmJQIm2LZw



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Catherine

posted November 5, 2010 at 4:46 pm


oops, here it is!
You have a Fabulous sense of humor Rich/HG, and we all know it!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAzbYVSqY3k



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HG

posted November 5, 2010 at 5:01 pm


No M’am, I didn’t start the name-calling between us, you did. I have thick skin, and the only insult I’ve given is that I think you are a simpleton. I explained why. You, on the other hand, do not explain, do not have a thick skin, and you do not present any debate other than “God exists!!!, I can’t hear anything you say!!!, you rotten!!!,offensive!!!, ignorant!!!, Baby Killing (Constitution-defending)!!!, atheistic!!!!!…nyah nah nah!!!!!!!!”
“Childish and chicken!”, as Barney Fife would say.



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Catherine

posted November 5, 2010 at 5:08 pm


Once again, you make a fool out of yourself.
HG/Rich–I never said ANY of those things. The peeps can go back and see that I didn’t.
Also, for the record, the peeps can also see the negative language that you have used against lots of individuals on this site, not just myself.
Looks like the little bully can dish it, but gets in a wad when its “right back atcha!”
Plus, I thought those videos were actually complimentary. You’re even kind of cute when you laugh.



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Catherine

posted November 5, 2010 at 5:12 pm


Correction: The only thing I said is that “God Exists”.
Yes, I said that.
Its Truth.



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HG

posted November 5, 2010 at 5:18 pm


Funny that you find time post links (which I have not viewed either), but can’t find time to debate on a debate blog. Not one shred of debate exists is any of your postings. Nor do you answer any questions posed to you. This is what passes for discussion and debate among Catholics? Maybe they should incorporate some of this stuff into your schooling.



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Rich

posted November 5, 2010 at 5:19 pm


Catherine,
What penalty do you propose for women who have abortions?



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Catherine

posted November 5, 2010 at 5:38 pm


Penalty for women who have abortions?
None Rich. Absolutely none. Believe it or not, God is full of love, grace, and mercy. It’s a foreign concept that you will never understand, grasp, or comprehend. When a woman comes to the cross, repents, and gives her life over to Jesus–
It’s called forgiveness.
“He has removed our sins as far from us as the east is from the west.” -Psalm 103:12
“This means that anyone who belongs to Christ has become a new person. The old life is gone; a new life has begun!” -2 Cor 5:17
Forgiven.



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HG

posted November 5, 2010 at 5:56 pm


An interesting penalty for “murder”, Catherine, but I appreciate the progress and hope that you and I may also continue with no further name-calling. My question would be…
Must one accept Jesus as the way into heaven before they die in order to gain entrance, or can the decision be postponed until after death-and still gain entrance?



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Rich

posted November 5, 2010 at 6:02 pm


Catherine,
Go ahead an make abortion illegal then. If we can agree that there will never be any civil or criminal penalty of any kind, then I have no problem with it being illegal. Actually, if that is how you want to do things, please feel free to make any human activity you care to illegal.



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shelou

posted November 6, 2010 at 10:12 am


Seriously, the elected democratic government is the enemy? Millions of Americans voted for Obama in order to provide healthcare to their fellow Americans…to prevent them and their children from dying or going bankrupt. Truly an act of love and faith, don’t you think. Or, when it’s DEMS, it’s socialism, right? The TRUE death panels are run by the insurance companies for those without insurance. Why are REPS, professed keepers of the faith, so easily recruited to serve the insurance companies – strange bedfellows – given their love of God? Regarding, Pro Life & Pro Choice – we all have blood on our hands – it’s just a matter of timing. I do not say this lightly. I am Pro-Choice because I support the unborn child, the mother, and the health and safety of any currently living children. Around the world, women without birth control or gender equality are forced into numerous pregnancies depleting their bodies of nutrients. Their lives and any children managing to survive do not have enough food and or any healthcare. Their lives are often short lived and filled with suffering. They have multiple miscarriages and botched abortions in their struggle to protect the lives of themselves and their children. I believe that Jesus’ compassion, mercy, and forgiveness extends to all who struggle with life’s difficult choices. I understand and support the moral argument against abortion, and I understand and support the moral argument for protecting the living mother and children, too. I advocate for federal funding for teaching of birth control methods and providing birth control to be made available to the world’s vulnerable mothers and their children. This would be a moral and compassionate way to prevent abortions.



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Catherine

posted November 7, 2010 at 2:29 pm

Rich

posted November 7, 2010 at 6:39 pm


shelou,
You make some very good points. I was especially struck by “we all have blood on our hands – it’s just a matter of timing.” I really couldn’t agree with you more on that point.
I am not with you on the whole Jesus thing but there is no requirement that one have a religion in order to care about one’s fellow man. It is a certainty to me that some people get so caught up in their ideology that they become hard set against anything, including reason.
The most immediately after yours is from Catherine, a typical rabid Christian cultist. This recent post of hers is all about her real god, which is of course, money. The link she has refers one on to a childish and moronic little ditty about how the government is taking all your money. The fact that the government does not now nor has it ever taken all of everyone’s money is a fact that goes unnoticed by these folks, it is hard core ideology that matters, not fact or reason.
I focus on Catherine’s paranoia about taxes because it relates to your salient point. Catherine is very much against abortion, a requirement I guess to become a credentialed Christian loon. She portrays herself as being so very concerned about the life of the unborn infant, it would almost be touching if it were even close to the truth. Her real god is money apparently. The thing Catherine can’t admit is that money is merely a tool that can be used by a government for good things. The most important point to note is that what we call ‘red’ states have several things in common; the highest rates of religiosity and the lowest overall tax rates. Along with those two little facts are several others, they are:
-Number of deaths of infants per 1,000 births
-Child deaths ages 1 to 14
-Teen deaths ages 15 to 19
-Birth to teen mothers
-Child poverty
-Juvenile incarceration
-Child abuse fatalities
http://www.everychildmatters.org/storage/documents/pdf/reports/geomatters.pdf
I find it interesting that the more religion prevails, the worse life is. But, they do have low tax rates if that is all you care about like Catherine.
Even more revealing, if you poke around the GeographyMatters document, is that the states that have the highest level of safety and care of children are those states with the lowest levels of religiosity. They also have higher tax rates.
This all supports your notion that we all have blood on our hands. It is just that reasonable people understand the importance of paying taxes that will do some tangible good. Some states have citizens who recognize this, other just don’t want to part with their money even if it is shown that taxes prevent suffering. All of the talk by Catherine of God’s love, etc, etc doesn’t feed a child, educate a child, get a child medical care or provide the child loving parents. It takes resources to do those things, not some monotonous yammering about God.



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HG

posted November 7, 2010 at 7:34 pm


If you can’t afford to have children, you shouldn’t have them!!! And if you get pregnant, you shouldn’t have any choice except to have it (them)!!! That means poor people shouldn’t have sex!!! Problem is, it’s a popular form of recreation for people without money, so we need to put a large percentage of them in jail!!! That creates JOBS!!!
Minimum wage is too high, we can’t compete with China!!! Healthcare is a huge burden on employers!!! Everybody needs to be responsible for themselves!!! If they take illness or injury and can’t afford basic medical care, they should have the common decency to die quickly and quietly without creating a fuss or mess!!!
If you want to help people give, to the church, not the government!!! And take some of that coerced federal and state tax money and give it to the Christian church so they can spread The Word around the world–even where they don’t want to hear it!!!!
All men are created equal, that means AT BIRTH!!! After that, yer on yer own!!!
I’ve gone back to Christianity and Republicanism Rich!!!!!!!!



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hg

posted November 7, 2010 at 9:55 pm


Rich, what makes you so angry and bitter? Din’t yor muther luv you as a chile? How can you murder those inosent little babies? Is it for money? No thats rite you were a money-chainjer bak wen u uzed to werk. I sem to be loosing mental funksion. God tole me that was normel and not to wurry. I fel a littl lik Charly in Flowers for Algernon. Duznt matur cuz I hav Jesus an wil go the Heven UNLIK SUM PEEPL!!!!!!!!!



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Rich

posted November 7, 2010 at 10:00 pm


HG,
Yeah, I am thinking of joining the Republicans myself, seems like they are some real fun folk. I have been exploring my inner-conservative-Christian-cultist and am ready to make some reasonable proposals myself:
#1 Women seeking abortion should be shot. This has the added benefit of insuring that the soul of the child gets entry into heaven which makes Jesus smile which ain’t nothing to sneeze at.
#2 We need to repeal health care because, while we believe in the concept of Christian charity, we do not believe that we should help pay to cure some hapless child with leukemia. Again, if the child dies early enough we again get to insure a soul makes it to heaven, Jesus smiles even more!
#3 Deny entry to America to all aliens. Aliens should be forced to rot and die in their own miserable countries. This will insure that any sick alien children will also die a miserable death in their own miserable country. And this then becomes another soul with a guaranteed ticket to heaven, and we thus earn our ‘hat-trick for Jesus’ which I think kick starts the Rapture and then all problems are solved.
Seems so simple.



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hg

posted November 7, 2010 at 10:11 pm


Im so glad u r cuming arownd Rich…butt thair rnt any “aliens”(hah-ha u r sily)…WE are Gods onlee chilldrun. If we had brutherz and sisterz God wood half tole us! Wut we ned to wury bout is the Mooslims!!!!! Butt u du half sum gud ideas witch I wil ask God abowt.



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Catherine

posted November 8, 2010 at 12:07 am


Looks like Rich is back to his old self again. Just another psychotic episode of his latest rant. Kinda like a spoiled brat who doesn’t get his way. He’s “civil” with you, until you dare disagree!
Sheesh, he must be a real treat to live with!!
I really didn’t want to disclose this video, but Rich has once again successfully pushed me in this direction.
I caught him taking a morning jog before hitting the golf course:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkTdeL9xY_Y
Should he be fined?



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Rich

posted November 8, 2010 at 12:32 am


Catherine the Great,
You seem to have a fairly unhealthy interest in looking for videos of donkeys.



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Your Name

posted November 8, 2010 at 12:39 am


Again, it’s somewhat entertaining to watch them dodge all debate on a debate blog. Getting any of these posers to discuss anything is like pulling teeth!
Cynthia wrote: “‘At any rate, the decision in Roe is very specific in denying federal and state government power to influence a woman’s abortion decision.’ – REALLY? In which world do you live?”
My reply was: “Really. Earth. Been here quite a while. I was at Michigan State when the decision was rendered. Have a look.
“To summarize and to repeat:
… (a) For the stage prior to approximately the end of the first trimester, the abortion decision and its effectuation must be left to the medical judgment of the pregnant woman’s attending physician.
(b) For the stage subsequent to approximately the end of the first trimester, the State, in promoting its interest in the health of the mother, may, if it chooses, regulate the abortion procedure in ways that are reasonably related to maternal health.
(c) For the stage subsequent to viability, the State in promoting its interest in the potentiality of human life [410 U.S. 113, 165] may, if it chooses, regulate, and even proscribe, abortion except where it is necessary, in appropriate medical judgment, for the preservation of the life or health of the mother.
Very specific, as I said.”
Her next post: “Mr Enyart, you are right. Thank you for enriching this blog with your commentary. It is not always we can read something true nowadays.”
Whoop! Gone. Complete avoidance of fact. Not unusual here, I must say.
Disinterested Reader: “Your own Words CONVICT You. Satan was also a Liar and Murderer from the Beginning. Don’t you know?”
More name calling, but no response to my reply:
“And what difference for anyone CONVICTED of abortion if there is no punishment? Forgiveness. Yes, you’re full of it.”
Whoop! Vanished.
I asked Jill: “So, Jill, we are together that abortion is legal and shall remain so due to the Roe decision?”
Whoop! Didn’t get back yet.
I gave Catherine a host of questions to choose from, then narrowed it down to one. Whoop! Pretended not to notice, called me names. I will give her credit for answering one question Rich posed (but, then, you had answered that one before).
It’s possible I’ll get a quasi-intelligent response from John or David Fryer, but I’m not holding my breath.



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Catherine

posted November 8, 2010 at 12:47 am


Gee Rich, I thought you didn’t watch any of the videos!! LOL!!!
Don’t be embarrASSed Rich. The camera loves you!



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HG

posted November 8, 2010 at 12:50 am


Sorry Catherine, I thought it would be apparent that was my post.



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HG

posted November 8, 2010 at 12:51 am


Oops, my mistake, I didn’t see Rich’s response. Sorry for my error.



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Catherine

posted November 8, 2010 at 12:51 am


Catherine,
Hey there. Didn’t watch the YouTube thing. Figured it was dumb.
(direct quote from Rich on 5 Nov 2010 @ 4:30pm) LOL!!



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HG

posted November 8, 2010 at 12:54 am


Oops, I didn’t see Rich’s reply Catherine, my mistake. Sorry for my error, and this is my second attempt at posting this.



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Rich

posted November 8, 2010 at 1:00 am


Catherine,
Depends on what you mean by watch. I clicked the link, saw a donkey, and bailed.
Sorry.



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HG

posted November 8, 2010 at 1:07 am


Rich, Catherine preaches forgiveness (even for the “murder” of the unborn), but doesn’t really seem to “feel it”. She seems to think that, IF Jesus existed, he taught a philosophy of “turn the other cheek” –but didn’t mean for it to be followed!



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Catherine

posted November 8, 2010 at 1:39 am


Shame, Shame; should not ASSume.



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Rich

posted November 8, 2010 at 1:52 am


HG,
Yeah, this Jesus dude and God need to get together and figure out what their official triune policy on forgiveness really is. The miscreants believe that God will fry you for wearing the wrong kind of cloth. Jesus wants to forgive Charlie Manson.
How anyone can drink such swill is beyond me.



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HG

posted November 8, 2010 at 1:58 am


Yes Rich, as I’ve said, cohesiveness of thought process is severely lacking. I’m beginning to think the only way they can continue their charade is through a self-imposed mental blindness. No outside information allowed, …it just…isn’t there.



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HG

posted November 8, 2010 at 2:14 am


Catherine says there should be no punishment for abortion. I don’t see what she’s upset about, there isn’t.



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HG

posted November 8, 2010 at 2:26 am


Must one accept Jesus as the way into heaven before they die in order to gain entrance, or can the decision be postponed until after death-and still gain entrance?
A general toss-up question. Catherine? Jill? Cynthia? John? David Fryer? Reverend Lynn? Mr. Sekulow?
testing…testing…



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HG

posted November 8, 2010 at 2:42 am


Jill wrote: “Calling abortion “a healthcare procedure” is highly offensive to countless Americans”
HG responded: “abortion is a legitimate healthcare issue for women. No way around that. Under what other heading would you file it? Notes pertaining to the healthcare aspect are replete in the Roe decision.”
Any response? This isn’t a test. There is no grade. Echo…echo…echo…



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Catherine

posted November 9, 2010 at 3:34 pm

Warturtle

posted November 10, 2010 at 1:03 pm


Of course President Obama is unpopular on some fronts – including ObamaCare – all presidents are. I don’t necesarilly approve the plan, but just focusing on the abortion aspect is debatable. Many studies have proven that aborting is in fact beneficial, at least in a utilitarianistic sense. The women getting the abortions are people who would likely raise criminals. I’m in support of abortion, yes, even subsidised abortion.
Warturtle – debatesource.blogspot.com



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Your Name

posted November 10, 2010 at 5:15 pm


Information is key… and outside information is great… to just conform to a possable misleading system,,, based on lies,,, without any education of the contrary … would be indeed brainwashing and making them into misguided robots…
So the chants of lies and such over and over again when the bell rings…. and over and over.. without the permission to study anything else… is indeed… brainwashing…. without giving them the ability to think and study otherwise… c



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MWD

posted November 11, 2010 at 8:55 am


Well I always like to think back to Theodore Roosevelt, nothing sentimental, but the sheer facts were he was on the radio a lot talking to his fellow americans. Please listen (hoping that I got the right president one with more than two terms?) I always have something to say, brilliant some, others not. Now I’m not all sure if it was really covered in history class; [(not gonna say what party they were in I'm sticking with George Washington)]
We’re they thinking real pretty thoughts of how its always 8 years taunting Roosevelt quite slightly with: “Eigth year Roosevelt” clearing his voice and continuing “Good years they were.” Wanting his turn in the driver seat, some reason Theodore, just didn’t care.
Sometimes I feel that way, no president have I been, but I am always wanting to serve everyone here, with a lot of the same laws we already have. All I can’t agree with, but all is a lot to say.
Also would everyone in this nation mind if we took a break? No matter how many times I would wait one more? two? Really I’d keep going if it would matter. I have lead you straight into my feelings, directive, but non-intentional.
Please look into it, I know its funny, if I were you I would laugh!! But I want some good stuff coming out of our country. Thank You.



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Your Name

posted November 11, 2010 at 12:37 pm


@Rich,
“Women seeking abortion should be shot.”
No, no, no. They save that particular punishment for the doctors that perform the procedure. They ‘think’ that will scare pregnant girls into not having the procedure ever. Even the ones that cannot afford to raise a child.
They want the government to make all abortions illegal (with no punishment tho – that’s a strange new develelopment) and yet they call themselves limited government types.
Praise Jeebus.



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posted November 12, 2010 at 4:40 pm


People have a step to critisize everything under the sun… for saving the children it the first step
The next step is to keep it from happening…
I am not sure what the concept of human life is at this point in regards to value of…:
Some think people are disposable..
While others find that every life should be protected under law
And why should we treat one life different from another..
C
p.s. As for the controlling type, you know who you are, and what you did and what you didn’t do.. I write to save lives.. certainly not to add to an establishment, which decided to capitalize on tragedy and put themselves up on some superior pedestal.. so you can take your job and shove it.



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Not as good as YOU, apparently

posted November 13, 2010 at 2:40 pm


“why should we treat one life different from another.”
For some challenging answers to this very profound question, go to the “Death penalty” discussion forum.
Seems many people who consider themselves “pro-life” are only selectively so.



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Your Name

posted November 13, 2010 at 5:31 pm


criticize-To find fault with.
There is always somebody thats wants to rain on another persons perade. You know try and present themselves as superior to the next..
As with the term pro-life..
That would be all life that they would be pro for.. so your last blogger… is intentionally an abusive nature,,, in the fact that your trying to even put the pro-lifers into some sort of catagory which states them as not being pro-life,,, liar again,….!!!
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As for your establishment… the only thing you did , was try and take the best ideas from me,, and present me as some who knows what… ,, something less then you, because why? because I didn’t choose to go to your law firm..
And another thing.. when one caused damage,,, such as possable rape,,, you know,,, there might have been some sychological damage inflicted there.. so,,, to try and represent one as being less intelligent then you during their healing from trauma expenditure,, well let’s face it.. that would be cruel,, and enlightenning in the fact that your arrogant… end of story..!
C
p.s. and no, I did not feel rejection from you, I was the one who said no, because of your highly unpredictable showing up here or there, and who with,, this girl or that girl.. so it got a little old, like a teenager, and I don’t want to go back to high school.. thanks though.. and to use my transcripts from high school would be in fact a lie to represent who I really am.. and to act like my matriculation process was to represent my intelligence would indeed be a lie again.. I filled in the dots.. just to get in basic classes for an AA , seeing how I had taken courses for particular trades outside of an AA. Thank for your enlightenment,,, but no thanks for your critique…. anyways have a nice life… C



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Not as good as YOU, apparently

posted November 15, 2010 at 2:30 pm


C,
“As with the term pro-life.. That would be all life that they would be pro for.. so your last blogger… is intentionally an abusive nature,,, in the fact that your trying to even put the pro-lifers into some sort of catagory which states them as not being pro-life,,, liar again,….!!!”
Sorry to have infuriated you so – with the truth. Like I said, just go to that particular thread I quoted. It is rife with people who call themselves “pro-life” who simultaneously support the death penalty. They put themselves in the same category, not me. They are demonstrably, observably NOT ‘pro ALL life’. Not even close.
So, no ‘lie’, no ‘abuse’. Just reporting the facts.
Now back to our regularly scheduled hate-fest.
Captcha: “grookity figure”



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Your Name

posted November 15, 2010 at 5:18 pm


Not as good as you apparently..



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Your Name

posted November 15, 2010 at 5:21 pm


As for any job of previous recognition, well they lied.. and they wanted the money to themselves.. and they did not want to be called on their behavior… which was pathetic..C



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Your Name

posted November 16, 2010 at 3:31 pm


Children have a right to have a birth right… love, me



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Your Name

posted November 18, 2010 at 2:10 pm


And love me, meant love the children.. and they and I are a me, too…!
that is the ticket… !! clf



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Your Name

posted November 18, 2010 at 9:39 pm


It is clear that Obama is a radical leftist who used political means to depict himself as a middle of the roader in the 2008 election because he knew that the left had already effectively defeated Bush in the public eye. Obama knew that he would have to campaign toward the center because the American population is mostly conservative but vulnerable to liberal views because of sympathy for the unfortunate. In other words, Obama deliberately lied to the population about his plans to socialize America!! Now that he is elected we have to take every action to quell the disaster he is amassing on our rights and liberties. It seems to me that Liberalism has allowed us to elect Satin himself to our highest office.



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Your Name

posted November 18, 2010 at 11:09 pm


Titter. Black Satin? More tittering…followed by uproarious laughter.



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Grumpy Old Perrson

posted November 19, 2010 at 12:40 pm


Yeah, and Bush lied to the population about WMDs. Maybe the Preziduncy DOES something to people who are otherwise capable of thinking.



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Your Name

posted November 19, 2010 at 4:45 pm


was that twitter? black satan? or screams from hell?



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Rodger D

posted November 21, 2010 at 8:31 am


I just want to say a few things. I came here to try to learn a little but what I see is a lot of madness. An I think thats all thats on the public mind right now.
So maybe this stupid little mans tip mite help a little.
I have tryed to work wile I am mad and you know what happens I get hurt. So I learned not to do to much when I’am mad take a break and say a prayer or you could say just talk to someone I can trust like my Lord. And you know what he always comes up with something good that helps out and makes it easy on me when others say I don’t want to hear it !.
Its better to offer a tip then to set back an let it happen !. Some of you won’t hear or beleave that because you can’t see it with your eyes but you can’t see your mind eather but you hear it.



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g

posted November 21, 2010 at 1:41 pm


I’ve heard J. Sekulow on KKLA The Intersection of Faith And Racism, and heard that he as well as many others don’t support Obamacare especially becasue of ‘abortion funding’ and that they don’t want their tax money going towards that.
Well, last time I checked, we really don’t get a say in what our money goes towards, Their are are kinds of pork barrel projects, and bailouts and MID-EAST WARS that I despise my tax dollars going towars..but guess what? I mail those quarterly taxes in anyway. We don’t get to pick from a menu of where we want them to go. So, tough beans!



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Rich

posted November 21, 2010 at 7:52 pm


Rodger D,
While reading the first sentence of your post I was hopeful that you might be one of those rare voices of balanced reason. I was soon disappointed.



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Your Name

posted November 22, 2010 at 2:49 am


Titter.



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Rodger D

posted November 22, 2010 at 4:31 am


Sorry Rich I leave it Jesus Chirst an I’ll fade away.



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Rodger D

posted November 22, 2010 at 8:24 am


@rich
“I just want to say a few things.” That was My first sentence wow you don’t give Me much to go on. How can that give you a rare voice of balanced reason.
So lets try logic and not reason. A woman having a Child not born yet, is it a Child?.
Or is it a part of it’s Mother?. Logic it not a Child but apart of it’s Mother.
Why by logic, there is a cord that connects it to it’s mother with out that cord there is no Child.
We all know it won’t live with out its Mothers cord. After it’s born it’s a Child by logic.
Now the Church won’t like Me for saying that I don’t blame them but its still logic.
Abortion is hurting it’s Mother and that is wrong but I think it’s not murder but it destructsion of a woman and it’s also wrong.
An We should not hafe to pay to hurt the Woman and or Mother. I see the Mother and unborn is as one untell it born but thats just Me.
We can carry this stuff to the starting point to the finish point whats the point if you don’t want the answer.
If We put thinking of the Child before lust and selfish want selfness there would not be a problem here.
If you want to put reason in it a Woman would think of the Child and not herself thats reason not logic. I am a Father but my Children are grown and on there own I’m devorced.
I fight against My selfish lust an want my proplem is winning that fight so far I’m winning. My lust and want suffers thats Chirst like.
(reason) Why sow a seed if just after you sowed it you pluck it out before it becomes a plant?.
(Logic) don’t sow the seed if you don’t want the plant !.
(reason) sex lust want is not love or care.
(logic) if you don’t love it don’t make it !.



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posted November 22, 2010 at 1:52 pm


And no, I don’t want you to come into my room and play housemate, or my dad or some control nut….
You left, tried to control, by not giving me anything to help, while you took advantage of me sexually when I was half conscience, and you wonder why I was a bit upset… with the whole thing… so you need to stay away from me…, I didn’t give you permission to come into where I was at the time and do that to me, in a conscience way,,, end of story!!!!!…. cc



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Your Name

posted November 22, 2010 at 1:53 pm


So you can keep you money and shove it where the sun don’t shine,, for I needed my husband, not a wacked out press nut..!



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Your Name

posted November 22, 2010 at 1:58 pm


People usually call first and make an appointment with me ,, if they are truelly above board,, wrather then an accidental pres…. who likes to take part in continual sexual therapy of unconsciece women.. try your wife next time,, and if you want me to work for you, try not participating the the conscience of effort of killing the unborn through abortion,, that would be good,, that I am throughly apposed… end of story…!! cc
I need marital sex not sex from another with desired intentions of misleading sex on a trip over from a political compaign… I was sick that day,, passing out from I believe possable pneumonia, or a possable cancer related moles,, not my fault you showed up where somebody took me who wanted to control where I went, instead of preaching the gospel.. deciding to you know take me to another location,, not really into the get off kind of guy, but my husband,,, that is all…. !!!!!!! cc



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pat Grimm

posted November 23, 2010 at 7:35 am


Why is abortion anyone’s business but the person having it? Talk about interfering government, we don’t want our healthcare interfered with, then is not abortion a part of that health care? There is nothing in the OT or the NT about aborting a child, in fact the OT states that the child is not a human being until the head is crowned, prior to that it is a spirit and you cannot kill a spirit. I am a believer in Jesus, but I don’t think He would appreciate all the self righteous yapping from the Christian Right, who should not be involved in politics.



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Lance Lawshe

posted November 23, 2010 at 8:20 am


I believe abortion is wrong. But I also believe it is a choice of the mother and father (if he’s a responsible one) usually that it is not the case and the father is not even around. I believe it should not happen with out counseling of some sort so that the parties understand fully what they are doing. My counsel would always be to keep the child, you never know what solution to a problem she may be carrying.
Now the reason I believe it is the mother’s choice, it because it is her body. I used to feel different awhile ago, and was totally stark against the notion of the idea. Until you think about it, and put yourself in some women’s shoes.
What would these commentators say if it were their daughter raped, and she was now pregnant. I wonder if they would be so against it then. What if their daughter wasn’t rapped but yet was promiscuous and had sexual relations with men outside their race, would they be a backer of abortion then to hide the sin.
One thing is you cannot hide the sin, although many conservatives have tried. God sees all, and will judge all in due time. It is funny I just wrote a blog yesterday discussing Proverbs 22:8 “Those who plant seeds of injustice will harvest disaster….” Those who continue to sow these seeds of injustice will surely have their end. Those are inclusive of everyone, even the ones who have abortions.
Just thought I would share. Sorry so long.



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crickittcarney

posted November 23, 2010 at 10:36 am


all i have to say is abortion is wrong no one tells you about the after effects that haunt you for the rest of your life, the cring babies you hear that are not there,planned parent hood is nothing but a lie, you would not even have an opinion if you had been aborted,i am a post abortino women and it haunts me every day of my life if i knew then what i know now (i was17 ) i am 52 now



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Mary E. Winston

posted November 23, 2010 at 11:45 am


God gave us the give of free will. It is our GOD GIVEN right to excercise that free will. It is our GOD GIVEN right to make our own choices. Abortion is a personal choice, nothing more.
President Obama does “GET IT”. He is trying to make health care affordable for ALL American’s. Why should health care be affordable to the very rich? Why should some people die because they do not have enough or any health care to help them? Why do people look at efforts to help everyone as Socialism or use fear tactics that there are death panels? If you want to observe an example of a death panel, please observe the efforts of the Governor of Arizon – allowing 98 people to die because of their lack of health insurance? to even ask this before examining all the fact is something unworthy of Beliefnet.



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posted November 23, 2010 at 3:07 pm


Ow really Mary,
Yes, I would agree with you there, a personal choice to murder children,,, congratulations on your moral integrity towards the human race of future generations of people…
And abortion is a whole lot more then a personal choice,, a personal choice of what,,,,?>??????
that is the question…?
so you support the choice to murder children at free will, now do you Mary….. ?
You should be ashamed of yourself for your contributions to our culture,, by that last blog… all that I have to say about that…
end of story..!!!cc



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quesadilla

posted November 23, 2010 at 5:20 pm


How can abortion be covered under a health care bill? Is not the violent murder of an innocent child the antithesis of health and care?



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Mr. Incredible, in Jesus' Name – the Name above ALL names!

posted November 23, 2010 at 5:48 pm


JESUS IS LORD ! THE LORD IS MY SHEPHERD OVER THE HILLS AND THROUGH THE VALLEYS, TROUNCING GIANTS !

Mary E. Winston says:
God gave us the give of free will. It is our GOD GIVEN right to excercise that free will. It is our GOD GIVEN right to make our own choices. Abortion is a personal choice, nothing more.
Mr. Incredible says:
So is murder. So is child molestation. So his wife beating.
Just cuz God gave us the Right to choose doesn’t mean that He agrees with our choice. We have the freedom to make wrong decisions, which abortion is.
Mary E. Winston says:
President Obama does “GET IT”.
Mr. Incredible says:
And he’s gonna get it in ’12, the same way Democrats got it earlier this month.
Mary E. Winston says:
He is trying to make health care affordable for ALL American’s [sic].
Mr. Incredible asks:
At what expense?
Mary E. Winston says:
Why should health care be affordable to the very rich?
Mr. Incredible says:
You answer your own question – that is, those who are rich have the money they earned, or were given.
Mary E. Winston says:
Why should some people die because they do not have enough or any health care to help them?
Mr. Incredible says:
No hospital turns away anybody just cuz they can’t afford medical care.
Mary E. Winston says:
Why do people look at efforts to help everyone as Socialism…
Mr. Incredible says:
Cuz, in this case, it is.
Mary E. Winston says:
… or use fear tactics that there are death panels?
Mr. Incredible says:
“Death panels” are something to be afraid of.
Mary E. Winston says:
If you want to observe an example of a death panel, please observe the efforts of the Governor of Arizon – allowing 98 people to die because of their lack of health insurance?
Mr. Incredible says:
Give us the link to the authoritative, credible story that describes this.



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Mr. Incredible, in the Name of Jesus Who will cast out none who come to Him!

posted November 23, 2010 at 5:55 pm


pat Grimm says:
Why is abortion anyone’s business but the person having it?
Mr. Incredible says:
The killing of ANY person is the business of everybody else.
pat Grimm says:
…is not abortion a part of that health care?
Mr. Incredible says:
Elective abortion is not.
pat Grimm says:
There is nothing in the OT or the NT about aborting a child…
Mr. Incredible says:
In your Planned Parenthood, pro-kill-the-unborn-by-choice version, probably not.
pat Grimm says:
… in fact the OT states that the child is not a human being until the head is crowned, prior to that it is a spirit and you cannot kill a spirit.
Mr. Incredible asks:
You wouldn’t wanna provide Scripture upon Scripture reference, would you?
pat Grimm says:
I am a believer in Jesus, but I don’t think He would appreciate all the self righteous yapping from the Christian Right, who should not be involved in politics.
Mr. Incredible says:
Ahhhh, more liberal theology. Heh.

JESUS CHRIST — THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE — THE ONLY WAY TO THE FATHER !



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Mr. Incredible, in the Name of Jesus Who is the Light of the world!

posted November 23, 2010 at 6:02 pm


AND THE LIGHT SHINETH IN DARKNESS; AND THE DARKNESS COMPREHENDED IT NOT.

Grumpy Old Perrson says:
… Bush lied to the population about WMDs.
Mr. Incredible says:
Amazing. Bush has been outta office now for almost 2 years, and, here you are, STILL fighting him. The nurse should quadruple your dose of Aricept.



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M

posted November 24, 2010 at 7:50 am


Here we go again about talking just about abortion. I agree that it’s wrong, but that’s such a narrow focus. There isn’t much concern for people who are already here, such as the poor, the sick, etc. In fact there’s very little compassion for them. Instead, there are all sorts of assumptions of why someone is poor – they’re lazy, etc. All it takes is for someone to lose their job or get sick, and they can become poor.
Since when being healthy and having basic needs met are luxuries? Those are rights of all human beings, just like breathing! It saddens me to see that our society is so driven by money, and even sadder is that so many Christians have gone along with it. What profit a man to gain the world and lose his own soul? Believe me, I’m not against people making money nor people being wealthy. I’m for it, but we must determine the price we want to pay for those things.
People, we can’t pick and choose which part of God’s Word we’re going to do. We have to be doers of His Word – ALL OF IT!!! Jesus was our Great Teacher. He taught us how we’re to treat other people, have love and compassion for others. Also, love is a word of ACTION!!! The book of Proverbs is a very good book to study and understand.



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posted November 24, 2010 at 9:28 am


M,
If the US was at war with an enemy that had killed millions of innocent citizens – would you be alarmed? Well it is. A silent enemy. Millions of innocent Americans have died through no fault of their own (link above). I guess if we showed the “battlefield” scenes of dead American babies, more people would take notice. I try very hard not to keep a “narrow” focus. But whenever I ponder the issues with healthcare, political corruption, education, poverty – I can’t help to remember that War trumps them all. And we are at war in Afghanistan and in the Planned Parenthood centers.



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posted November 24, 2010 at 12:36 pm


Yes, we have seen by such acts as the murder of Dr. Tiller the “war…in the Planned Parenthood centers” spill into our own churches. We still have a chance to win in Afghanistan, but the battle over abortion being “murder” (or any crime at all) has been over for near forty year. Some people, mainly religious zealots, have yet to grasp the difference between abortion and murder.



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liberalChristian

posted November 24, 2010 at 3:48 pm


Mr. Sekulow:
I had to keep checking as I read your piece to make sure that this was Beliefnet. This would fit perfectly in any secular news/opinion site. You writ of Constitutional challenges, political leaders, etc. but somehow, Jesus was left out. Can I assume that for you, the American Constitution trumps the Bible in Jesus’ charge for us to heal the sick?



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Mr. Incredible, in the Name of Jesus, our Champion!

posted November 24, 2010 at 4:12 pm


“THE WORDS THAT I SPEAK UNTO YOU, THEY ARE SPIRIT, AND THEY ARE LIFE. YE ARE CLEAN THROUGH THE WORD WHICH I HAVE SPOKEN UNTO YOU.” — Jesus

M says:
Here we go again about talking just about abortion.
Mr. Incredible says:
You’re free to talk about something else.
M says:
I agree that it’s wrong, but that’s such a narrow focus. There isn’t much concern for people who are already here, such as the poor, the sick, etc.
Mr. Incredible says:
There isn’t???
M says:
In fact there’s very little compassion for them.
Mr. Incredible says:
Worldly “compassion,” or the Christ-kind of “compassion”?
M says:
Instead, there are all sorts of assumptions of why someone is poor – they’re lazy, etc.
Mr. Incredible says:
Well…?
M says:
All it takes is for someone to lose their job or get sick, and they can become poor.
Mr. Incredible says:
Should I become poor – in the worldly sense – so that they are not poor?
M says:
Since when being healthy and having basic needs met are luxuries? Those are rights of all human beings, just like breathing!
Mr. Incredible says:
If they are Rights, it means that somebody else is responsible to provide them.
NEWS BULLETIN – I’m not responsible to make sure somebody else is healthy. I’m not responsible to meet his basic needs. I’m not responsible for somebody else’s breathing, either. That is, in the worldly sense. Film at eleven.
M says:
It saddens me to see that our society is so driven by money, and even sadder is that so many Christians have gone along with it.
Mr. Incredible says:
You got another system in mind?
M says:
What profit a man to gain the world and lose his own soul?
Mr. Incredible says:
Christ was not talking about not having worldly things. He was talking about the “hold” worldly things have on people. In other words, it’s not that people have things, rather that things have people.
M says:
Believe me, I’m not against people making money nor people being wealthy. I’m for it, but we must determine the price we want to pay for those things.
Mr. Incredible says:
The Word of God tells us what the price is.
M says:
Jesus was our Great Teacher. He taught us how we’re to treat other people, have love and compassion for others.
Mr. Incredible asks:
Biblically, what are “love” and “compassion”?
M says:
Also, love is a word of ACTION!!!
Mr. Incredible says:
Explain that, biblically.
M says:
The book of Proverbs is a very good book to study and understand.
Mr. Incredible says:
Indeed, it is. However, it’s not doctrine.



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goldie

posted November 24, 2010 at 7:20 pm


I dont belive for one second God intented on women to abort there babies, but he is the judges over all things. We as a nation as a whole need to pray for this country cause with the healthcare plan which I do not agree with ethier WE ARE HEADED FOR DISATER. I am just a below paid citizen working for the state so all I amgoing to do is pray and I will sign petition if one comes out on healthcare and abortion. God bless everyone have a blessed thanksgiving!!! Amen



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Your Name

posted November 24, 2010 at 10:31 pm


Have you actually read the healthcare bill (thereby attempting to inform yourself of what it actually does)? Or, more likely, are you simply regurgitating the dissatisfaction of others (who quite possibly also have a poor understanding of it)? The Blessings of Eru Illuvatar the Almighty Holiday Turkey be upon you.



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Rodger D

posted November 25, 2010 at 9:39 am


@Goldie
Come on you think God leds a Woman down the wrong road I don’t think so !. The Woman leds the Woman down that road the same with Men.
What I see We have not change sent the tree with Adam and Eve You still hafe to choose witch tree you want to take from it as a path.
I thing that Men carry the seed and Woman are furtal ground don’t plant the seed if you don’t want the frut is the only right way but We live a life that not perfact just get neer that as you can so using condoms I think is not as worse as abortion because you do kill life condoms stop the life its not killing life just stopping it. And if you don’t that don’t plant at all !. So ho many of will call me crazy !.



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Rodger D

posted November 25, 2010 at 9:56 am


Let me fix’s my comment @Goldie
The bottom line should have been.
“And if you don’t want the frut that comes from it don’t plant it at all !. So how many of you will call me crazy !.”
Sorry for the lack of words. Form the first comment @Goldie
“And if you don’t that don’t plant at all !. So ho many of will call me crazy !.”



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Mr. Incredible, in the Name of Jesus

posted November 25, 2010 at 3:21 pm


Grumpy Old Perrson says:
… Bush lied to the population about WMDs.
Mr. Incredible says:
Actually, he didn’t.
Why would he lie about something that WOULD be found out later by inspection???
In fact, the intel showed that WMD was there.



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Mr. Incredible, in the Name of Jesus

posted November 25, 2010 at 3:25 pm


Your Name
Have you actually read the healthcare bill (thereby attempting to inform yourself of what it actually does)?
Mr. Incredible asks:
Have YOU??? All two thousand pages of it???



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Mr. Incredible, in Jesus' Name, the ONLY Nme by which we must be saved!

posted November 25, 2010 at 4:13 pm


(2Sa 22:50) Therefore I will give thanks unto thee, O LORD, among the heathen, and I will sing praises unto thy name.
(1Ch 16:8) Give thanks unto the LORD, call upon his name, make known his deeds among the people.
(1Ch 16:34) O give thanks unto the LORD; for he is good; for his mercy endureth for ever.
(1Ch 16:35) And say ye, Save us, O God of our salvation, and gather us together, and deliver us from the heathen, that we may give thanks to thy holy name, and glory in thy praise.
(Psa 6:5) For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks?
(Psa 18:49) Therefore will I give thanks unto thee, O LORD, among the heathen, and sing praises unto thy name.
(Psa 30:4) Sing unto the LORD, O ye saints of his, and give thanks at the remembrance of his holiness.
(Psa 30:12) To the end that my glory may sing praise to thee, and not be silent. O LORD my God, I will give thanks unto thee for ever.
(Psa 35:18) I will give thee thanks in the great congregation: I will praise thee among much people.
(Psa 75:1) To the chief Musician, Altaschith, A Psalm or Song of Asaph. Unto thee, O God, do we give thanks, unto thee do we give thanks: for that thy name is near thy wondrous works declare.
(Psa 79:13) So we thy people and sheep of thy pasture will give thee thanks for ever: we will shew forth thy praise to all generations.
(Psa 92:1) A Psalm or Song for the sabbath day. It is a good thing to give thanks unto the LORD, and to sing praises unto thy name, O most High:
(Psa 97:12) Rejoice in the LORD, ye righteous; and give thanks at the remembrance of his holiness.
(Psa 105:1) O give thanks unto the LORD; call upon his name: make known his deeds among the people.
(Psa 106:1) Praise ye the LORD. O give thanks unto the LORD; for he is good: for his mercy endureth for ever.
(Psa 106:47) Save us, O LORD our God, and gather us from among the heathen, to give thanks unto thy holy name, and to triumph in thy praise.
(Psa 107:1) O give thanks unto the LORD, for he is good: for his mercy endureth for ever.
(Psa 118:1) O give thanks unto the LORD; for he is good: because his mercy endureth for ever.
(Psa 118:29) O give thanks unto the LORD; for he is good: for his mercy endureth for ever.
(Psa 119:62) At midnight I will rise to give thanks unto thee because of thy righteous judgments.
(Psa 136:1) O give thanks unto the LORD; for he is good: for his mercy endureth for ever.
(Psa 136:2) O give thanks unto the God of gods: for his mercy endureth for ever.
(Psa 136:3) O give thanks to the Lord of lords: for his mercy endureth for ever.
(Psa 136:26) O give thanks unto the God of heaven: for his mercy endureth for ever.
(Psa 140:13) Surely the righteous shall give thanks unto thy name: the upright shall dwell in thy presence.
(Rom 14:6) He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.
(1Co 10:30) For if I by grace be a partaker, why am I evil spoken of for that for which I give thanks?
(1Co 15:57) But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
(2Co 1:11) Ye also helping together by prayer for us, that for the gift bestowed upon us by the means of many persons thanks may be given by many on our behalf.
(2Co 2:14) Now thanks be unto God, which always causeth us to triumph in Christ, and maketh manifest the savour of his knowledge by us in every place.
(2Co 9:15) Thanks be unto God for his unspeakable gift.
(Eph 5:4) Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.
(Eph 5:20) Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;
(Col 1:12) Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
(Col 3:17) And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.
(1Th 1:2) We give thanks to God always for you all, making mention of you in our prayers;
(1Th 5:18) In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.
(2Th 2:13) But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
(1Ti 2:1) I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
(Heb 13:15) By him therefore let us offer the sacrifice of praise to God continually, that is, the fruit of our lips giving thanks to his name.
(Rev 11:17) Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.



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Phillip Wochner

posted November 27, 2010 at 2:22 am


The Republicans would have much less to complain about had they gotten into the negotiations rather than just saying “NO.” Maybe that was the idea.
They should remove the possibility of funding abortions. But much of it, such as requiring insurance companies to cover people with pre-existing conditions, must stay.



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RC

posted November 27, 2010 at 1:25 pm


To Your Name:
Unfortunately the “decision” that abortion is not murder has not been decided. Slavery and segregation were legal for a very long time, before it was decided – that these practices were morally wrong. Abortion IS murder because it is the deliberate killing of a human life. Now this is where you step in and say that a “fetus or zygote” is not a human being. But the images in teh above link show the development of a human being before delivery. The link above is not from some “religous zealot” but instead a non-profit, non-religous organization. Besides. if a pregnant woman is murdered, why is the killer charged with a double-homicide? Isn’t the second victim a human being in development?
I stand by my earler statement that abortion is killing Americans by the millions.
RC
PS – I deplore the killing of any abortion doctor. Any perpetuator of that crime should be given a life sentence/death penalty.



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Your Name

posted November 27, 2010 at 2:30 pm


i HAVE HEARD THE BULL OF LET AMERICA DECIDE ABOUT ABORTION TO CHOOSE..
wHAT i MEAN BY THAT STATEMENT IS…:
wHEN PEOPLE OF THE GOVERNMENT THAT ARE IN SEETED POSITIONS AS OF TODAY: DECIDED PUBLICALLY TO USE TAX DOLLARS FOR AN ELECTIVE SERVICE OF ABORTION…:
NEVERMIND THE FACT THAT IT IS KILLING OUT POSTERITY AND OUR CHILDREN EH… ,,,,, WHY NOT THROW IN OUR GOVERNMENT MONEY THAT PEOPLE PAY THEIR TAXES WITH TO FUND THOSE CHILDREN BEING MURDERED…
sO THIS BULL OF YOU SAYING,,,, IT IS NOT UP FOR ME TO DECIDE. LET AMERCIA CHOOSE… :
yoU ALREADY… DID … THUS MURDERING CHILDREN THROUGH TAX DOLLARS..
sO ,,,, WHAT WAS THAT SIGNATURE UPDATE ON PROTECTING THOSE POSTERITY CHILDREN FROM BEING THROWN INTO THE HEALTH CARE BILL OR LOBBYIST… HUH?????????
NO COMPRENDE THY MURDER BENEFITS… SENIOR AMIGO….. cc



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posted November 27, 2010 at 2:31 pm


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Your Name

posted November 27, 2010 at 4:26 pm


No, abortion is not “murder”, because murder is a legal term and is (in all cases) against the law. For nigh forty years, and most probably for the duration of our constitutional form of government, abortion has been openly declared as legal. VERY RARE cases where high court decisions were overturned involved granting an extension of liberty previously denied–NEVER revoking liberty previously found to be protected by the Constitution. Roe stands, and revocation is highly unlikely. Unless and until it is, abortion is not murder. It’s that simple.



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Your Name

posted November 27, 2010 at 5:09 pm


Whahh-WHAH-WHAHHwhWHA-WHA-WHA-WHAHwhu WAh….



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Milan Zellner

posted November 28, 2010 at 2:20 pm


I believe abortion IS murder and prefer not to support it with my tax dollars.



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Your Name

posted November 28, 2010 at 2:24 pm


I believe appendicitis is murder and prefer that treatment be denied.



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Mr. Incredible, in the Name of Jesus, the Light That shines on all who believe on Him!

posted November 28, 2010 at 7:07 pm


“THE WORDS THAT I SPEAK UNTO YOU, THEY ARE SPIRIT, AND THEY ARE LIFE. YE ARE CLEAN THROUGH THE WORD WHICH I HAVE SPOKEN UNTO YOU.” — Jesus

Milan Zellner
I believe abortion IS murder and prefer not to support it with my tax dollars.
Your Name
I believe appendicitis is murder and prefer that treatment be denied.
Mr. Incredible says:
Each cell of the unborn child has forty-six chromosomes. Forty-six chromosomes makes him human who is being.
Each cell of the appendix has twenty-three chromosomes. The appendix is not a human being.



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Your Name

posted November 28, 2010 at 7:15 pm


Mr. or Mrs. noname..
Just because you go by some dictionary term put in terminology of a fetus as not being a human being developing does not mean that it is not….
So you lie…
Ow let the American people decide what…:
If they want to go with your mascarade of lies of what constitutes a human being and what does not….
For it does not take a genius to tell that those are people growing in the womb… and if your laws snuff them out before they can sustain life, because you decide to go by a definition which is a lie… then that is the problem… YOU are misleading the American public right down a train of reckage of moral corruption which leads to a death of a human being….
End of story… so it is serious your last blog….
CC -CARA



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Your Name

posted November 28, 2010 at 7:41 pm


If we are allowed to make up our own definitions, I can refer to an appendix, or a big toe, or a sandwich as a human being. Eating a sandwich IS MURDER!!!!!!!!!



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Mr. Incredible, in the Name of Jesus, in Whom we are more than conquerors!

posted November 29, 2010 at 3:56 am


If the unborn are persons, and killing an innocent person is “murder,” then “murder” it is.
I have-ta correct my earlier statement that each cell of the appendix has twenty-three chromosomes, not forty-six. In fact, each cell of the appendix has forty-six chromosomes. Each reproductive cell of the human creature has twenty-three chromosomes.
However, the appendix is not a human creature. It is part of the human creature. Therefore, the appendix cannot be a person. The unborn child, having forty-six chromosomes, can be a person cuz the unborn child is a human creature.



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Rodger D

posted November 29, 2010 at 9:28 am


This is my last camment on this. Before a Child is born thay have a heart beet but it lacks one thing the breath of life given by god shun me if you like but its true the heart is what got us here but the breath of life was before so how did it get fliped around? sin. Abortion is sin !. Therefore wrong !. Truth proven by Jesus Chirst that He was from Above He wanted no part of it.!



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Your Name

posted November 29, 2010 at 11:27 am


If you’ve e’er eaten a sandwich, yer goin’ straightway to the de’il when ye die. And if you’ve e’er e’en looked at a Turkey Club, yer hellbound too, for the Almighty Pastrami is a jealous Laird. Sure, tho’ a bunch of murderers you all are, it’s heaven for me.



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Mr. Incredible, in the Name of Jesus

posted November 29, 2010 at 12:28 pm


It’s easier than everybody thinks.
Lookit:
In Roe, itself, Justice Blackmun says that SCOTUS would have had to rule the other way had it not been for the fact that unborn personhood was not before the Court. He says that, had unborn personhood been before the Court, the person in the womb would get Due Process.
SCOTUS doesn’t say that abortion cannot be regulated. It says that it may be regulated if there is a LEGIT STATE INTEREST. So, what do you think that LEGIT STATE INTEREST would be? DUE PROCESS, and only persons get Due Process.
The Constitution doesn’t define what it means to be a “person.” Therefore, it is up to the defining branch of government — that is the Legislative. This Congress, though, ain’t goin’ there. Soooo, get state legislatures to go there. It won’t be opposed cuz SCOTUS already says that “personhood” would get it to rule the other way. It is a given that “personhood” is the key.
This means that the undue burden on the woman becomes a due burden.
Further, inheritance law already treats the unborn as persons — that is, they are what the law calls “jural persons.” It says that they get “future interests” in property. They must survive in order to enjoy the benefits of law. If we can define corporations as “jural persons,” we most certainly may and can define the unborn as “jural persons.”
So, we don’t have to wait for the Legislative to act. We can go into court with inheritance law — and any other law that treats the unborn as persons — and argue that trhe life of the unborn must be protected.
We can also argue bailment and conversion.
The woman carries the man’s seed — that is, his property. She accepted his property on the condition that she won’t damange it. If she damages it, or destroys it, he cannot get the property back in the condition he expects. That’s conversion.
Department of Health and Human Services regulations say that the health care of the unborn begins at conception, that it is utterly and wholly separate from the health care of the mother.
I’m sure there’s more. The more we get, the more secure the argument in court while getting the Legisltive to do its job of defining.
This is so easy that it’s silly.



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Mr. Incredible, in Jesus' Name

posted November 29, 2010 at 12:34 pm


Your Name says:
If you’ve e’er eaten a sandwich, yer goin’ straightway to the de’il when ye die. And if you’ve e’er e’en looked at a Turkey Club, yer hellbound too, for the Almighty Pastrami is a jealous Laird. Sure, tho’ a bunch of murderers you all are, it’s heaven for me.
Mr. Incredible says:
A sandwich is not a person cuz it isn’t a human creature. So, one cannot murder a sandwich.
On another subject, it looks as though Rich and HG, joining that goofball Boris, have surrendered to the heat and run away like scared, old women.



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Your Name

posted November 29, 2010 at 1:28 pm


Spoken like a true sandwich eating murderer! You’re going straight to hell bucko!!!!!!!!



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Mr. Incredible, in the Name of Jesus

posted November 29, 2010 at 1:52 pm


Your Name says:
Spoken like a true sandwich eating murderer!
Mr. Incredible says:
I’ve murdered no one. A sandwich isn’t a person cuz it ain’t a human creature. The law takes no notice of the simple act of my eating a sandwich.
However, if you can’t tell the difference between a human creature and a sandwich, it’s not MY prob.
Your Name says:
You’re going straight to hell bucko!!!!!!!!
Mr. Incredible says:
Good thing I’m not. We’re not playin’ by YOUR rules.



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Your Name

posted November 29, 2010 at 2:20 pm


mr. or mrs, noname writer…
It took a person to write the definition of personhood, and that would be a lie to which to state that a person growing is not a person, otherwise you could have been a sandwich or a big toe … end of story….. CC cara…….



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Your Name

posted November 29, 2010 at 2:48 pm


YOUR rules don’t apply. I KNOW, and you can’t prove otherwise. Oh yes, you are going to burn bucko’s–I got it straight from the Almighty. You don’t want to believe it, but that isn’t my problem.



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Christian

posted November 29, 2010 at 3:43 pm


I sure am glad i was able to provide health coverage to my 24 year old daughter. If you do not want government health care then just opt out of it. I have yet to see all the Republicans in congress that voted against health care opt out. Why because they love that free health care for senators and congressman. Same with everyone else if you don’t want government health care then don’t use it. Leave it for the poor and working familes with kids who have a pre-existing conditon that the insurance companies wil not cover. These are the people that Jesus told us to take care of, the widow the orphans and the poor. NOT those rich Senators and Congressmen.



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Mr. Incredible, in Jesus' Name, the ONLY Name by which we must be saved!

posted November 30, 2010 at 7:53 am


Your Name says:
YOUR rules don’t apply.
Mr. Incredible says:
MY rules don’t apply, but God’s do.
Your Name says:
I KNOW, and you can’t prove otherwise.
Mr. Incredible says:
It doesn’t matter to me cuz YOU are the one who’s gonna suffer in the end.
Your Name says:
Oh yes, you are going to burn bucko’s…
Mr. Incredible asks:
I’m gonna burn bucko’s what? Who’s “bucko,” and what is it of his that I’m gonna burn?
Your Name says:
…–I got it straight from the Almighty.
Mr. Incredible asks:
The “Almighty” what?
Your Name says:
You don’t want to believe it, but that isn’t my problem.
Mr. Incredible says:
Then why spend so much time and effort? Just don’t worry about it then.



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Mr. Incredible, in the Name of Jesus

posted November 30, 2010 at 8:27 am


Your Name says:
I KNOW, and you can’t prove otherwise.
Mr. Incredible says:
I don’t need to prove otherwise. It’s self-evident that you don’t know.



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Mr. Incredible, in Jesus' Name

posted November 30, 2010 at 8:30 am


Your Name says that we’re gonna burn.
Yes, my zeal for Christ burns in me like a fire! PRAISE THE LORD!



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Mr. Incredible, in the Name of Jesus

posted November 30, 2010 at 8:35 am


Christian says:
These are the people that Jesus told us to take care of, the widow the orphans and the poor.
Mr. Incredible says:
How, biblically, should we take care of them?
Christian says:
NOT those rich Senators and Congressmen.
Mr. Incredible asks:
Sooooo, rich senators and congressmen are not needful of the things Christ brought? Christ tells us NOT to give to them what He gave us??? Where does Christ say this? And give us the line of scriptural thought, not just one verse. Give us the Scripture upon Scripture basis for your statement.



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Mr. Incredible, in Jesus' Name

posted November 30, 2010 at 8:38 am


So, did Rich, HG and Blubbering Boris go and finally get a room together, or what?



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Mr. Incredible, in the Name of Jesus

posted November 30, 2010 at 8:41 am


Christian says:
These are the people that Jesus told us to take care of, the widow the orphans and the poor.
Mr. Incredible asks:
Sooooo, should we take care of them the way the world takes care of them, or is there something special we oughta be doing over and above what the world does?
What is the Mission Jesus was on? What was His concern, comfy world?



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Your Name

posted November 30, 2010 at 1:30 pm


and as for funny, i don’t think it is funny when you control and find a smile in my pain…
i never wanted a married man, just my husband, thanks but no thanks…



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Mack

posted November 30, 2010 at 8:12 pm


I think President Obama “gets it” much better than the republicans on every issue, but he isn’t as forceful as he should be. As for the abortion issue, there isn’t one. It’s legal and strictly a medical issue. On tax policy, the republicans continue to fight for the wealthiest Americans at the expense of the rest of us. The President needs to tell them straight up that he will veto any legislation which includes extending the Bush era tax cuts for the wealthy–and make them look every bit as bad as they are in forcing them to cave. On DADT, the republicans continue to ignore both the public and military opinion that it should be repealed, putting an end to this discrimination. McCain, who selected Palin as VP candidate (OMFG!), first said that if the military consensus was to repeal DADT that he thought they should seriously consider it. Now, he’s turned into a Belgian waffle and moves the goal post after the latest military report was announced. President Obama should not be interested in allowing bone-heads like Boner, Cantor, McCain, The Kentucky Turtle, and Graham to save face when they are transparently WRONG on nearly every issue. He needs to do what is right for the country, and that includes repealing the appalling Faith-Based Initiative.



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Mr. Incredible, in the Name of Jesus, the Son of God!

posted December 1, 2010 at 7:45 am


Mack says:
Blah, blah, blah, quack, quack, quack, yakitty, yakitty, yak.
Mr. Incredible says:
We won. You didn’t, and we’re gonna take out the rest of the trash in ’12.



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posted December 1, 2010 at 8:41 am

Mr. Incredible, in the Name of Jesus Christ, our Champion!

posted December 1, 2010 at 8:43 am


And Mack wants us to work with the likes of him. HA! Thanks to the election, people like him are gonna have to work with the likes of us! And it will be more so in 2 years, too.



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Mr. Incredible, in the Name of Jesus Who was fundamentalist, partisan...

posted December 1, 2010 at 8:55 am


…I can be no less!
Libs killed bipartisanship — Mack’s post is an example of the same, Libd yakkity, yak duckspeak — cuz they wanted it to go only THEIR way. That’s over, and, in two years, it will be more over, and we’ll get this country back, pull it back from the brink.



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Mr. Incredible, in the Name of Jesus

posted December 1, 2010 at 8:59 am

Mr. Incredible, in Jesus' Name

posted December 1, 2010 at 9:01 am


Gee. No more Lady Rich. No more Ms. HG. No more Boris, whatever it is. Gosh.



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Rolf Kramdin

posted December 1, 2010 at 9:22 am


They are afraid of you.



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Mr. Incredible, in the Name of Jesus

posted December 1, 2010 at 9:24 am


Uh huh. We know.



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Mack

posted December 1, 2010 at 2:06 pm


I think President Obama “gets it” much better than the republicans on every issue, but he isn’t as forceful as he should be. As for the abortion issue, there isn’t one. It’s legal and strictly a medical issue. On tax policy, the republicans continue to fight for the wealthiest Americans at the expense of the rest of us. The President needs to tell them straight up that he will veto any legislation which includes extending the Bush era tax cuts for the wealthy–and make them look every bit as bad as they are in forcing them to cave. On DADT, the republicans continue to ignore both the public and military opinion that it should be repealed, putting an end to this discrimination. McCain, who selected Palin as VP candidate (OMFG!), first said that if the military consensus was to repeal DADT that he thought they should seriously consider it. Now, he’s turned into a Belgian waffle and moves the goal post after the latest military report was announced. President Obama should not be interested in allowing bone-heads like Boner, Cantor, McCain, The Kentucky Turtle, and Graham to save face when they are transparently WRONG on nearly every issue. He needs to do what is right for the country, and that includes repealing the appalling Faith-Based Initiative.



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Your Name

posted December 1, 2010 at 2:13 pm


you know what…? .. and who is afraid of who.. they are afraid of the truth? and how did you get in….?



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Mr. Incredible, in the Name of Jesus

posted December 1, 2010 at 5:39 pm


Mack says:
Blah, blah, blah, quack, quack, quack, yakitty, yakitty, yak.
Mr. Incredible says:
We won. You didn’t, and we’re gonna take out the rest of the trash in ’12.
And Mack wants us to work with the likes of him. HA! Thanks to the election, people like him are gonna have to work with the likes of us! And it will be more so in 2 years, too.
Libs killed bipartisanship — Mack’s post is an example of the same, Lib yakkity, yak duckspeak — cuz they wanted it to go only THEIR way. That’s over, and, in two years, it will be more over, and we’ll get this country back, pull it back from the brink.
The military wants DADT repealed?? Oh???
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/12/01/pentagon-plays-combat-fighters-resistance-gays/
Repeal DADT?? Frontliners say, “NO!”
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/nov/30/front-line-fighters-wary-of-repealing-dont-ask/



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Mr. Incredible, in Jesus' Name

posted December 1, 2010 at 5:58 pm


Public money to pay for elective abortion to save the social life of the mother?



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Mr. Incredible, in the Name of Jesus

posted December 1, 2010 at 5:59 pm


H E L L No!



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Mack

posted December 1, 2010 at 8:03 pm


Libs killed bipartisanship? Funny. The party of “NO” has been such a compromising bunch. Their idea of compromise is “give us the tax breaks for the rich or we’ll hold the entire legislative process hostage. “No to health care reform, no to DADT repeal, no extension of unemployment at Christmas, no to the START treaty, no NOTHING unless we get our way (taking from the poor and giving to the rich)—WAHHHH!” Babies, hypocrites, and liars all. I predict a second term for Obama.



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Mr. Incredible, in Jesus' Name

posted December 2, 2010 at 4:43 am


Mack says:
Libs killed bipartisanship?
Mr. Incredible says:
Yes, they did.
Mack says:
Funny.
Mr. Incredible says:
The election, to me, was funny, too, and I’m laughing all the way to ’12, when it gets even funnier.
Mack says:
The party of “NO”…
Mr. Incredible says:
The party of H E L L NO!
Mack says:
…has been such a compromising bunch.
Mr. Incredible says:
Where they can. We won’t compromise principle, though.
Mack says:
Their idea of compromise is “give us the tax breaks for the rich…
Mr. Incredible says:
Without the rich putting their money at risk in investment, there are no jobs. That’s just history.
Mack says:
…or we’ll hold the entire legislative process hostage.
Mr. Incredible says:
The entire legislative process is not hostage in vvor of the rich. That’s just the way YOU put it — it’s a class warfare trick of Libs.
Mack says:
“No to health care reform…
Mr. Incredible says:
We havent’ said NO to health care reform, just NO to THIS health care reform which is socialistic.
Mack says:
…no to DADT repeal…
Mr. Incredible says:
The troops in the field, as I pointed out, don’t want repeal.
Mack says:
…no extension of unemployment at Christmas…
Mr. Incredible says:
Not until stupid Dems come up with a way to pay for it. THAT’s the holdup. Whine to the Dems who don’t care.
Mack says:
…no to the START treaty…
Mr. Incredible says:
We haven’t said NO to the START treaty. We’ve said NO right now, until we get assurances from that the Russians will not interpret the preamble as saying that the United States will have to trim its nuke arsenal and the Russians not.
Mack says:
…no NOTHING unless we get our way (taking from the poor and giving to the rich)…
Mr. Incredible says:
No, it’s not about getting “our way.” It’s about assurances that we won’t get screwed any more than Obammy and this Congress have done so far.
And that brings up another thought — YOU people have the majority in Congress and you have the White House. You can do anything you want, and, yet… So, just do all those things. What’s stopping you?
Mack says:
I predict a second term for Obama.
Mr. Incredible says:
Of course you do. You can say nothing else. You’re gonna be sorely disappointed.



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Your Name

posted December 2, 2010 at 1:47 pm


And no Jay we are not…
——–I never said that we were…. end of story, it was clear.. and I don’t like cheating husbands… sorry but no can do…..



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Your Name

posted December 2, 2010 at 1:53 pm


And another thing to show up for the stick them in sex when I was sick and then present me to the national public like I was the one with the problem , when I think that I had a stroke or something,,, you are what you are..————-
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As for Health Care and the present administration presenting the elective service of abortion as a an impartial elective service brought to you by tax dollars , is what it is murder by tax dollars..
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AND THOSE LITTLE EGGS ARE CHILDREN GROWING, AND YES I REALIZED THAT YOU COULD FIND A DEFINITION WHICH SUPPORTS GROWING PEOPLE AS LESS THEN HUMAN AND MAKE THEM INTO SOME UNKNOWN SPECIES IN SOME ABSTRACT FORM AND THUS TAKING AWAY THE VERY NATURE OF A GROWING HUMAN BEING..
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THIS DOES NOT HOWEVER MAKE THEM LESS THEN HUMAN AND NOT GROWING PEOPLE……..
MURDER 101….. HEALTH CARE OPTION BROUGHT TO YOU BY TAX DOLLAR……
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AND YES, THAT LET THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DECIDE AFTER YOU DECIDED TO BRING ALL THIS CRAP ON OUR NATION ABOUT LETTING PEOPLE MURDER WITH AMERICA’S MONEY… IS JUST THAT…. CRAP…..
SO IF THERE WAS OR IS SOME DOCUMENT WHICH SUPPORTS THAT THEY ARE PROTECTED , IT HAS NOT BEEN MADE CLEAR TO THE PUBLIC….
CC



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Mack

posted December 2, 2010 at 1:59 pm


Ah yes, the old “trickle down” economics. We know what trickles down, and where. It doesn’t create jobs. After these tax cuts were instituted, 1/20 of the number of jobs were created as under the previous administration. Living off the crumbs that fall from the mouths of the wealthy should not be the American ideal. The class warfare conducted, has been by the wealthy against the poor. They have gained in real and relative terms against the poor year after year, and it is terrible for the economy (witness the worst economic crash since the Great Depression as a result of the Bush plan). Dollars to people who spend it (in this country), as the poorer people MUST do in order to live, are of MUCH greater benefit to an economy, and does more to create jobs (generating $2 in economic activity for every single dollar).
As for DADT, Gates and Mullen and 80-90% of servicemen (including Marines) say repealing it would have no effect on combat abilities. Seventy percent of the public, recent poll, supports repeal. If it is not legislated away, it will be done away with by the courts because it is discriminatory–and that isn’t the best way to get it done. Many people didn’t want to racially integrate the military either (with MUCH greater opposition; 80-90% of troops were against) but Truman told them to get over it–and they did. Better to do what is right.
Senate Republicans unanimously announced they would not proceed to consider ANY OTHER LEGISLATION until they get their way with extending tax cuts to include the +$250K amount. That IS holding the legislative process hostage, no matter how you slice it.
Is this “Incredible” person always so incredibly dumb, or did I just get lucky on these issues?



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Mr. Incredible, in the Name of Jesus, our Champion!

posted December 2, 2010 at 3:03 pm


JESUS IS LORD ! THE LORD IS MY SHEPHERD OVER THE HILLS AND THROUGH THE VALLEYS, TROUNCING GIANTS !

Mack says:
Ah yes, the old “trickle down” economics.
Mr. Incredible says:
Ahhhh, yes, it works.
Mack says:
We know what trickles down, and where.
Mr. Incredible says:
History shows that, without investment, jobs disappear. We’re seeing this now. We have seen this the past two years. That’s gonna change.
Mack says:
It doesn’t create jobs.
Mr. Incredible says:
You wanna stick to your vain, socialist imaginations. The rest of us, thanks to the election, will stick to reality, as demonstrated by history.
Mack says:
Living off the crumbs that fall from the mouths of the wealthy should not be the American ideal.
Mr. Incredible says:
Except that, unless the wealthy have the money to put at risk in investment, there are no jobs, as we have found out the past two years. Again, that’s gonna change. You people have had your chance. Your ideas don’t work.
Mack says:
The class warfare conducted, has been by the wealthy against the poor.
Mr. Incredible says:
Socialist talking points. Go to Cuba, or North Korea, or you can realize your ideal.
Mack says:
They have gained in real and relative terms against the poor year after year…
Mr. Incredible says:
The wealthy have either worked for their money, or received it through inheritance, and invested it where investment makes sense. It’s THEIR money, and, if THEIR money is working, they are entitled to see a return on their investments. Socialists, like you, don’t like that. That’s too bad. That’s real tuff.
Mack says:
…and it is terrible for the economy (witness the worst economic crash since the Great Depression as a result of the Bush plan).
Mr. Incredible says:
Investment, where it’s possible, is good for the economy cuz it creates jobs. Where investment dries up, there are no jobs. We are seeing this now, as a result of Obammy policies.
“The worst economic crash” is not the fault of George Bush. It was brought on by 9/11 and greatly “enhanced” by Christopher Dodd, Barney Frank and Bill Clinton in the mid-90s. It was then that these Three Stooges thought that everybody should have a house, even if they couldn’t afford it. They rejected regulation of the mortgage-lending industry. So, you had sub-prime lending rates. Then, around 2003, George Bush warned of the then-coming crisis as the result. John McCain offered legislation to regulate the mortgage-lending industry. Barney Frank said regulation is not needed, and, so, as the result, you got the crisis we’re in today. So, the Republicans didn’t get us into this mess. The DEMOCRATS did.
Mack says:
Dollars to people who spend it (in this country), as the poorer people MUST do in order to live, are of MUCH greater benefit to an economy, and does more to create jobs (generating $2 in economic activity for every single dollar).
Mr. Incredible says:
When you give five bucks to a wino, he will spend it on more wine. He’s not gonna invest it. He wants a handout.
The idiot on the street holding up a sign saying that he will work for food doesn’t really wanna work. He wants a handout.
The worry when the government handed out a couple -a hundred dollars for “economic stimulus” was that people would use the money to pay bills. Paying bills does not stimulate the economy. It’s the EXTRA spending on things other than bills, other than putting the money in the savings account, that stimulates the economy. People were afraid to spend the money, given the state of the economy, thanks to DEMOCRATS. They are afraid to spend money today. Businesses are afraid to spend money today. Everybody wants assurances that the money they make they can spend without much worry. Spending money just to live, merely to exist, does not stimulate the economy.
Mack says:
As for DADT, Gates and Mullen and 80-90% of servicemen (including Marines) say repealing it would have no effect on combat abilities.
Mr. Incredible says:
As I pointed out in one-a the links I provided, the troops in the field disagree.
In any case, that study is flawed cuz it didn’t ask the question YOU think was asked:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20024409-503544.html
Mack says:
Seventy percent of the public, recent poll, supports repeal.
Mr. Incredible says:
The only poll that counts is the election. We voted against the direction of this country the past two years. We voted for representatives of our values. Those values are not YOUR values. That’s too bad.
Individual members of the public are not in the loop, concerning the minute details of the inner workings of the military. The troops in the field are more attuned to what’s happening in the field.
Mack says:
If it is not legislated away, it will be done away with by the courts because it is discriminatory–and that isn’t the best way to get it done.
Mr. Incredible says:
Everybody discriminates, in one way, or the other. Not all discrimination is illegal.
YOU say is discriminatory. That doesn’t mean it’s discriminatory.
It’s the way YOU people work – that is, you shop for judge, a Lib, who will do your bidding.
If that were to have been scratched by a judge, it would have been scratched by a judge already cuz the case YOU say you have has already been tried.
Mack says:
Many people didn’t want to racially integrate the military either (with MUCH greater opposition; 80-90% of troops were against) but Truman told them to get over it–and they did.
Mr. Incredible says:
Race is immutable. The claim of homosexuality is mutable cuz to go homosexual is a choice.
Mack says:
Better to do what is right.
Mr. Incredible says:
What you think is right and what I think is right are two different things. I’ll let those whom I elected to represent me decide – that is, as long as they represent my values.
Mack says:
Senate Republicans unanimously announced they would not proceed to consider ANY OTHER LEGISLATION until they get their way with extending tax cuts to include the +$250K amount.
Mr. Incredible says:
Of course, that’s not true.
They say that they will not consider any other legislation until the issue of the tax hikes that are coming in January is settled.
Mack says:
That IS holding the legislative process hostage, no matter how you slice it.
Mr. Incredible says:
The Republicans want to do first things first. I don’t care about anything else until that issue is settled. It’s the most important issue at this time.
Mack says:
Is this “Incredible” person always so incredibly dumb, or did I just get lucky on these issues?
Mr. Incredible translates that:

“Mr. Incredible doesn’t agree with me, and, so, he must be dumb.”



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Mr. Incredible, in the Name of Jesus Whose Grace is sufficient!

posted December 2, 2010 at 3:06 pm


The Democrats, the past two years, have had the overwhelming majority in Congress. They have controlled The White House. They could-a done anything they wanted. It’s not Republicans’ fault that Democrats are incompetent to handle governance.

JESUS CHRIST — THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE — THE ONLY WAY TO THE FATHER !



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Mr. Incredible, in Jesus' Name – there's no other name by which we must be saved!

posted December 2, 2010 at 3:11 pm


Socialists, like Mack, lost this last election. We are now in control, and things are gonna change. We are taking this country back from the edge of the cliff, and this change isn’t done yet.

AND THE LIGHT SHINETH IN DARKNESS; AND THE DARKNESS COMPREHENDED IT NOT.



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HGandRickareIdiots!!!

posted December 2, 2010 at 10:40 pm


This two couple of patients with chronic mental disorder, known here as Rick and HG, are the perfect example of the worse kind people in US. They are like virus, infecting, destroying, lying, killing,.. what a couple of scum bags. They live in this blog, typing their crap all day long because they have nothing else to do in their meaningless lives> They are just two entitled morons who think they can threat every single person who dares to type any opinion here. They are the shit of the sibuí inside the shit of the bunda suja. The bosta of the Ascaris inside the ass of Lynn. Actually, Lynn: saionara. Auf Wiedesehen!! Go infect the latrina of the Presidential ass.



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Mr. Incredible, in Jesus' Name

posted December 3, 2010 at 3:12 am


HG, Rich and Boris — what a bunch-a urinal cakes.



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Mr. Incredible, in the Name of Jesus

posted December 7, 2010 at 3:53 am


Michele Bachmann gets the ball rollin’, insisting that the House defund Planned Parenthood:
http://www.cnsnews.com/public/news/article/michele-bachmann-can-t-we-minimum-start
Couldn’t-a aksed for better news!
Let’s gitter done!



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Joshua

posted April 14, 2011 at 6:25 pm


This is a pile of ludicrous, often incoherent postings! How this can pass for a “debate” blows my mind.

The ACLJ pretends to be advocates for “liberty and freedom” except where those terms don’t line up with their religious aims…in other words, they are hypocrites. Typical.



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