Lynn v. Sekulow

Lynn v. Sekulow


Healthcare Substance More Important Than Style

posted by Rev. Barry W. Lynn

It is not clear at this point how, if at all, the President’s health care plan will be enacted. Polls on this topic are universally poor.  So, let’s try to simplify this.

Jay, do you agree or disagree with these principles:

Every American who wants health care should be able to obtain some degree of it — and we should no more allow people to die of a curable cancer than we should allow them to starve to death on a city street.

On the other hand, no health care system can ever be created that can guarantee every person the right to every treatment, every drug, every intervention she or he desires–coupled with round-the-clock care. Some choices have to be made. There will always have to be a “rationing” of services.

If everybody would start  from these two points, we might be able to have a serious discussion about health care across the nation.  Jay, can you start from here?
 



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John Lofton

posted March 4, 2010 at 3:49 pm


C’mon, Barry! Every American who wants health care should be able to obtain only “some degree of it?!” How cruel! What a heartless person you are! This is not nearly enough! Every American deserves NOT TO DIE! Yeah, that’s the ticket. We need a law outlawing death or at least serious injury — no, make that death, serious injury and any kind of illness! And this should be declared a RIGHT! City streets should also be outlawed because — because — well, that’s where some people die or starve to death. So, cut the crap about “choices” and rationing. We CAN have it all, Barry, if only we try hard enough. We’re Americans! So, slip on those little red slippers of yours, click your heels together 3 times and says: “Yes, we can — yes, we can — yes, we can”. And do this because — YES, WE CAN!
John Lofton, Editor, TheAmericanView.com
Communications Director, Institute on the Constitution
Host, “The American View” Radio Show
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ds0490

posted March 4, 2010 at 3:58 pm


Typical of the Republicans…life begins at conception and ends at birth. What I find truly upsetting is that all of these loud-mouths in Congress “just say no” to ANY change in our current health system are enjoying taxpayer paid full health coverage in some of the finest GOVERNMENT RUN medical facilities in the land.



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Lisa

posted March 4, 2010 at 5:18 pm


Dear Mr. Lofton:
If you are willing to pay for health care for everyone (illegals included) than open up your wallet.
Dear dso490:
Some of the richest people in the country are in the congress and they are democrats. so please do not single out republicans.
If we are to provide health insurance for all we must be realistic: not one is going to ever have perfect coverage. Everyone will only have limited coverage.



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ds0490

posted March 4, 2010 at 6:38 pm


“Some of the richest people in the country are in the congress and they are democrats. so please do not single out republicans.”
It is the Republican Party and their members who are out to scuttle even the minor changes being offered in the current bill. Therefore it is quite germane to highlight their situation. Wealth or poverty is not the issue here. Even the poorest member of Congress has full coverage at no cost to them thanks to the US taxpayer, and has the finest government-run health facilities at their disposal 24/7.
“If we are to provide health insurance for all we must be realistic: not one is going to ever have perfect coverage. Everyone will only have limited coverage.”
We are not talking about perfect coverage here. The bill before Congress offers quite imperfect modifications to the current system. The GOP has made it their mission to derail even these minor changes.
Meanwhile, GOP members and former members of Congress enjoy free medical care.
http://www.rollcall.com/news/43433-1.html
I wonder if they also treat his ED there?



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Mr. Incredible

posted March 4, 2010 at 8:57 pm


ds0490
March 4, 2010 6:38 PM
It is the Republican Party and their members who are out to scuttle even the minor changes being offered in the current bill.
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The Democrats have a Democrat as president.
The Congress is majority Democrat.
All of them have the power to do whatever they want. Can’t blame Republicans.
ds0490
March 4, 2010 6:38 PM
The GOP has made it their mission to derail even these minor changes.
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The American People have said in every poll that they do not want what is being offered by the Democrats. The Republicans are doing what the American People say they want.
ds0490
March 4, 2010 6:38 PM
Meanwhile, GOP members and former members of Congress enjoy free medical care.
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They enjoy free medical care at our expense cuz they represent us.
In any case, the bill before Congress now will not pass, and Democrats will lose big-time in November. Then, it’s on to November, ’12, and change there, too.



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Mr. Incredible

posted March 4, 2010 at 9:02 pm


ds0490
March 4, 2010 3:58 PM
Typical of the Republicans…life begins at conception and ends at birth.
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Typical, Liberal misrepresentation.
ds0490
March 4, 2010 3:58 PM
What I find truly upsetting is that all of these loud-mouths in Congress “just say no” to ANY change in our current health system…
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No, the “just say no” to this particular change. And for good reasons.
You’re just angry cuz your guy promised you something and he has been utterly incapable of giving it to you. You listened to his promises, and all they were is talk. You’re trying to take it on everybody else but yourself.
ds0490
March 4, 2010 3:58 PM
Are enjoying taxpayer paid full health coverage in some of the finest GOVERNMENT RUN medical facilities in the land.
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They are government employees, just like every other government employee.



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Mr. Incredible

posted March 4, 2010 at 9:40 pm


The Republicans are on the right and correct side of this issue, especially where abortion is concerned.
The issues the Republicans have focused on, regarding the current bill, are big issues and real issues, and the American People agree; they don’t agree with Democrats who wanna ram this through, even if it means using a procedure that its Democrat author says should not be used for this.
CONSERVATIVE VICTORY 2010! Then, it’s on to ’12 and further correction!



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N. Lindzee Lindholm

posted March 5, 2010 at 12:24 pm


I agree with your two points. And yes, I don’t think there have been polls as to how the health care plan will be enacted, to my knowledge. I still say that even though women have the right to abortion, which I am not in favor of, taxpayers should not have to fund this, especially in extremely tough economic times. Energy and monies should be focused toward necessary treatment and care for individuals. Don’t you agree?



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David B.

posted March 5, 2010 at 2:05 pm


“I still say that even though women have the right to abortion, which I am not in favor of, taxpayers should not have to fund this, especially in extremely tough economic times. Energy and monies should be focused toward necessary treatment and care for individuals.”
Abortion is too expensive to fund in comparison to funding pre and post natal care, hospital bills, and the WIC program? Not to mention the legal and social costs which accrue to a plethora of unwanted children. No, if your goal is saving taxpayer money, abortion is a much less expensive course of action.



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Your Name

posted March 5, 2010 at 4:50 pm


Is this bill of health care benefit package include abortion funds?
What was that Mr. President, you were not going to use tax dollars for abortions????
So your excuse to our Posterity not descending is that they are killed, that somehow they need not be protected???



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jimbino

posted March 5, 2010 at 5:43 pm


Barry,
Every Amerikan “deserves some degree” of food, shelter, sex, love and nurturing. Darwin forbid that we would have the government buy us food, houses, sex partners, friends and families.
Because Amerikans are entitled to education, health care and decent mail delivery, we should eliminate all gummnit involvement in those too.
Only a socialist could jump from recognition of a universal human need to the suggestion that the gummint should fulfill it.



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Mr. Incredible

posted March 6, 2010 at 5:17 am


Elective abortion is not health care.



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Earl

posted March 6, 2010 at 2:34 pm


Why is the topic of “abortion” included in the “Health Care” debate? Is this simply to delay (attack) the reform in congress? Also, why is the term “Socialism” being used to scare people? The most appreciated programs that we enjoy from our government could be classified as Socialistic. Another thing, the rest of the world seems to have learned that government programs or single payer programs are the most effective and affordable. How did we become so blind to these obvious facts?
I guess Americans are getting what they deserve.



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jimbino

posted March 6, 2010 at 3:43 pm


Earl,
What would be those “appreciated” socialist programs? Public education that can’t teach math and science? Post Office that pays its workers handsomely but wants to cut Saturday service? Social Security that is going broke? Medicare that’s going broke and that won’t pay benefits to an expatriate?



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Your Name

posted March 6, 2010 at 5:25 pm


Earl,
I don’t know, Earl, why is abortion legal. Clearly it is involving someone elses body. So where is the health care for that child? And I have heard that this involves tax funds to go to elective abortions.
Well, well, well, seems a bit contradictory in regards to our Posterity. Constitutional rights are clearly noted involving our future generations.(POSTERITY)
So your question is why is abortion even regarded as health care, it is not, somehow they think it is a good thing to let people murder their children by choice. Somehow I have heard that it is being attached to this bill will tax funds to boot. Especially when it is clearly ending another individuals life, this should definetly not be funded.
C



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HG

posted March 6, 2010 at 6:00 pm


“I don’t know, Earl, why is abortion legal.”
Well, it could be because the SCOTUS has ruled in favor of retaining for The People those Blessings of Liberty which the Framers secured for them (us) in the Constitution. What a concept! What do you think Earl?



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Boris

posted March 6, 2010 at 8:31 pm


Jimbino,
Public education, postal services, retirement programs and free medical services work just fine in many socialist countries, especially in Scandinavia. In the United States our schools have been dumbed down by conservative maggots for the express purpose of making our students more susceptible to religious superstitions. This is why we don’t teach science the way other countries do.



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jimbino

posted March 6, 2010 at 8:47 pm


Boris,
We are not in Scandinavia. Earl was invited to name those “most appreciated programs that we enjoy from our government [that] could be classified as Socialistic.”
Of course, almost all “programs” inflicted on us by our government are socialistic. Exceptions would be national defense and the court system, provided for in the Constitution by our wise founders, who did not choose to inflict upon us Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and Public Education.



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Your Name

posted March 7, 2010 at 3:37 pm


hg,
Well that leaves out anything regarding our Posterity because they are killed first before entering the world. What a concept, eh?
Whoever is making up the laws in place I suppose considered murdering the people while they were forming as a free enterprise, what a concept?????????
C



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N. Lindzee Lindholm

posted March 7, 2010 at 11:33 pm


David B.,
You state that federal funding for abortion, to essentially kill off the kids, is less expensive than paying for services if the child lives. First, no matter which trimester the child is in, and in the above case, it would have to be the first or second, the fetus is still a child. Jeremiah 1:5 states: “I knew you before I formed you in your mother’s womb. Before you were born I set you apart and appointed you as my prophet to the nations.” EVEN BEFORE THE CHILD IS A FETUS, God already has a plan for the individual. So, how much more important is the individual when it becomes a fetus, with little hands and little feet, versus just an ideal? Ethically, I have a huge problem with your argument. David, would you be in favor of killing off seniors who require expensive treatments to facilitate life too just because medication or surgery is expensive? Lord willing, just remember, you’ll be a senior as well someday. Second, even if your argument was true, giving you the benefit of the doubt, you don’t provide any figures to validate your premise. Third, what about the decrease in cost for folks who want to adopt but who are forced to adopt overseas for one reason or another?
Some issues regarding international adoptions include:
* Concerns about the health of a child raised in an orphanage.
* Worries about the high cost of many international adoptions, including the cost associated with foreign travel.
* The high cost of traveling to a foreign country and staying for days or weeks in another culture waiting for paperwork to be processed. (e.g. Haiti orphans)
An increase in US children placed for adoption may decrease expenses for people who are faced with adopting children overseas.
Would federally-funded abortions really be saving money? With both prenatal care and health for seniors, the bottom line should be an individual’s life, not the premise of saving money by taking one.



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Boris

posted March 8, 2010 at 3:34 am


Your stupid verse from Jeremiah doesn’t hold any weight against these:
Hosea 9:11-16 Hosea prays for God’s intervention. “Ephraim shall bring forth his children to the murderer. Give them, 0 Lord: what wilt thou give? Give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts. . .Ephraim is smitten, their root is dried up, they shall bear no fruit: yea though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb.” Clearly Hosea desires that the people of Ephraim can no longer have children. God of course obeys by making all their unborn children miscarry. Is not terminating a pregnancy unnaturally “abortion”?
Numbers 5:11-21 The description of a bizarre, brutal and abusive ritual to be performed on a wife SUSPECTED of adultery. This is considered to be an induced abortion to rid a woman of another man’s child.
Numbers 31:17 Moses said: “Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every women that hath known man by lying with him.” In other words: women that might be pregnant, which clearly is abortion for the fetus.
Hosea 13:16 God promises to dash to pieces the infants of Samaria and the “their women with child shall be ripped up”. Once again this god kills the unborn, including their pregnant mothers.
2 Kings 15:16 God allows the pregnant women of Tappuah (aka Tiphsah) to be “ripped open”. And the Christians have the audacity to say god is pro-life. How and the hell is it that Christians can read passages where God allows pregnant women to be murdered, yet still claim abortion is wrong?
Your stupid superstitions about a magic fairy in the sky are nothing but retarded nonsense. You people make me sick. You’re as evil and rotten and disgusting as anyone on this planet.



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Mr. Incredible

posted March 8, 2010 at 7:30 am


Boozehound Boris:
You people make me sick.
Mr. Incredible says:
Why can’t you just be a whale and beach yourself?



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Mr. Incredible

posted March 8, 2010 at 7:37 am


Notice that “Belly-up” Boris quotes only from the Old Testament. When the “quotes” the New Testament, as with the Old Testament, he quotes it out of context — that is, misquotes it — out of Scripture-upon-Scripture context. This is what the Devil did in Matthew 4:1-11.
Scoffers don’t quote in Scripture-upon-Scripture context cuz they know that Scripture upon Scripture interpretation will give them interpretation other than which they want to intend, give people a clue as to their deception.



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Mr. Incredible

posted March 8, 2010 at 7:40 am


Boris’ interpretation from the pit of Hell:
2 Kings 15:16 God allows the pregnant women of Tappuah (aka Tiphsah) to be “ripped open”.
Mr. Incredible says:
And, yet, He didn’t do it.



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Mr. Incredible

posted March 8, 2010 at 7:44 am


More Boris’ interpretation from the pit of Hell:
Hosea 13:16 God promises to dash to pieces the infants of Samaria and the “their women with child shall be ripped up”. Once again this god…
Mr. Incredible says:
Which “god”?
More Boris’ interpretation from the pit of Hell:
… kills the unborn, including their pregnant mothers.
Mr. Incredible says:
Of course, in the old Hebrew, there is no permissive sense. Only causive.
Therefore, the translation assigns the cause of God, when, in fact, He doesn’t cause it at all, rather allows it for lack of obedience to the Covenant He has made with Man.



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Your Name

posted March 8, 2010 at 2:44 pm


Hosea 9: 11-16
11
As for Ephraim, their glory shall fly away like a bird-
No birth, no pregnancy, and no conception!
12
Though they bring up their children,
Yet I will bereave them to the last man.
Yes, woe to them when I depart from them!
13
Just as I saw Ephraim like Tyre, planted in a pleasant place,
So Ephraim will bring out his children to the murderer.”
14
Give them, O Lord-
What will You give?
Give them a misarrying womb
And dry breasts!
15
“All their wickedness is in Gilgal,
For there I hated them.
Because of the evil of their deeds
I will drive them from My house;
I will love them no more.
All their princes are rebellious.
16
Ephraim is stricken,
Their root is dried up;
They shall bear no fruit.
Yes, were they to bear children,
I would kill the darlings of their womb.”
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Notice 14
Give them, O Lord-
What will You give?
Give them a miscarrying womb
And dry breasts!
Hosea 1: 1
The word of the Lord that came to Hosea the son of Berri, in the days of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah, kings of Judah, and in the days of Jeroboam the son of Joash, king of Israel.
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Your Name

posted March 8, 2010 at 3:16 pm


Numbers 31: 16,17
16
” Look, these women caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to trespass against the Lord in the incidend of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the Lord.
17
” Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known a man intimately.
18
” But keep alive for yourselves all the young girls who have not known a man intimately.
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In verse 16, it says there was a plague.
Number 31: 1,2
And the Lord spoke to Moses, saying:
2
” Take vengeance on the Midianites for the children of Isreal. Afterward you shall be gathered to your people.”



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Your Name

posted March 8, 2010 at 3:24 pm


Hosea 9: 17
My God will cast them away,
Because they did not obey Him;
And they shall be wanderers among the nations.
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notice: they did not obey Him-



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Your Name

posted March 8, 2010 at 3:29 pm


Hosea 13:16
Samaria is held guilty,
For she has rebelled against her God.
They sahall fall by the sword,
Their infants shall be dashed in pieces,
And their women with child ripped open.
Hosea 14: 1
O Israel, return to the Lord your God,
For you have stumbled because of your iniquity;
2
Take words with you, And return to the Lord.
Say to Him,
“Take away all iniquity;
Receive us graciously,
For we will offer the sacrifices of our lips,
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Notice in Hosea 13: 16
(Samaria is held guilty)



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Your Name

posted March 8, 2010 at 3:35 pm


2 Kings 15:15,16
Now the rest of the acts of Shallum, and the conspiracy which he led, indeed they are written in the book of the chronicles of the kings of Israel.
16
Then from Tirzah, Menahem attacked Tiphsah, all who were there, and its territory. Because they did not surrender, therefore he attacked it. All the women there who were with child he ripped open.
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Notice in verse 15 it is regarding the acts of Shallum,



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Your Name

posted March 8, 2010 at 3:40 pm


Hosea 13: 16
Samaria is held guilty,
For she has rebelled against her God,
They shall fall by the sword,
Their infants shall be dashed in pieces,
And their women with child ripped open.



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Your Name

posted March 8, 2010 at 3:44 pm


They shall fall by the sword.



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Boris

posted March 10, 2010 at 11:05 am


So when people don’t obey God their children should be brutally murdered. Got it. Nice religion and God you believe in. This proves the only reason you believe in God is because you are afraid not to. This is the only reason any Christian believes in God. You are all a bunch of chicken*&%$ cowards.



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Your Name

posted March 10, 2010 at 3:12 pm


Boris,
That was Old Testament. When I saw a movie in I believe the late 70’s or early 80’s on Noahs Ark artifacts found on Mt. Ararat. Some earlier discoveries of people witnessing the uncovering of it during different times of the year when the ice had melted. For the skeptics out there, well there will always be skeptics. Then I later studied scripture indicating that Noah’s Ark rest there in scripture.
I myself found it a bit hard for me to believe that God covered the whole earth with water and killed a whole bunch of people because of disobedience. Of course I am not God and I don’t claim to know everything and why He does the things He does. Nor did I understand why he didn’t make us go to one big happy place at the end when all of us die. For the Bible states that not everybody will go to heaven. That is where I let God be God and realize man is man. I realize with the gift of free will that we are entitled to , that He had to put some form of balence and check system in place when people are wicked and keep doing evil things without a repentive heart. When I realized the complexity of how He designed us, I realized that He is far superior in thought processes then we can even imagine. When I looked out unto the heavens and I could see the moon and the stars and the sun and how the earth rotates at an axis, well, let’s just face it, He is God and man is man. C



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Your Name

posted March 10, 2010 at 10:55 pm


p.s. There will always be skeptics of the Bible until they meet our maker.



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Your Name

posted March 10, 2010 at 11:00 pm


Genesis 8: 4
Then the ark rested in the seventh month, the seventeenth day of the month, on the mountains of Ararat.



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D.Dub

posted March 11, 2010 at 1:57 pm


Medical care should be provided to everyone who is “American”. The thing is that its not that way. If we want to help everyone then why dont we help the world. make our medical care available to everyone. Impossible so why don’t we concentrate on only “Americans”, Americans that do right for there country… not free loaders.



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Your Name

posted March 12, 2010 at 7:33 am


One can get limited health care now. It is called ER, the most expenesive form of health care.It also costing you money, lots of it when they use the ER for thier health care.
The price for health insurance has reasen to where alot of people can not afford it any more and chose to not have it.When they get sick the will go to the ER becauce, by law, they have to see them. It cost at lest 1.000 dollar to use ER. This cost is passed onto the Insurance companies which in turn pass onto the policy holders thus raiseing the price which you pay. More people drop out…… will you get my point.



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Boris

posted March 12, 2010 at 12:37 pm


Cara
No one has ever found the enormous ark even though we know its final resting place is among the mountains of Ararat located around present-day Turkey (Genesis 8:4). All evidence presented as proof of the ark’s discovery has been admitted to be a hoax, proven a hoax, or withheld from testing. Although one could reasonably anticipate that someone would have discovered a tangible piece of evidence from the craft if it hasn’t decomposed, multiple expeditions have turned up absolutely nothing. While many people claim they have evidence for the ark being conveniently underground, no one has ventured to exhume it from the earth.
Appallingly, God drowned unborn children in the flood. This indisputably necessary consequence of his actions should ironically put a huge kink in the pro-life arguments from the church. God aborts countless unborn children for the questionable sins of their parents, yet the church expects society not to do the same? Infants and young children who do not possess the intellectual capacity to tell right from wrong were also casualties of the flood! How could they be among the wicked and evil? These are hardly the actions of the loving God depicted in the New Testament. The innocent children didn’t deserve the fate God inexcusably dealt them, end of story. Helpless animals also suffered the horrible fate of the children. However, given the apparently twisted love that God has for smells from animal sacrifices (Genesis 8:20-21), that last point shouldn’t have been very surprising to someone familiar with the Bible.



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Your Name

posted March 12, 2010 at 4:39 pm


Re: Boris
Well that was not the documentary I saw in the late 70’s or early 80’s in the theater. It is interesting to note that when I googled Mt. Ararat or artifact thereof, I saw completely different information then what I read and saw a few years back. I have seen other documentaries since the 80’s on the same subject. There was wood taken from the believe sight of the reckage and had been tested by various labs. It came back relevant to the time in question of the Ark. Later of course, like everything else in the Bible, there is always someone out there who wants to say it is something other than what it is. There is clearly evidence of the earth being submerged in water. I saw a documentary on the Sphinx in Egypt as well clearly showing signs of being submerged in water by demarcation.
As for the Ark, well there has been researchers of the sight who have escavated part of it. That was the documentary that I saw. The roof was visible. As for the debunk of the Ark being there, the debunk is in the fact that you claim that there has not been exhibitions of the sight. I also heard of a nomad and his son who saw the reckage there as well. There has been lab testing on wood. I don’t know if they broke up the wood into various parts for testing or how they did it. I do know that there are skeptics such as yourself HG, who wish to completely discredit everything about the Bible. The thing is that you can not. You don’t have to believe it HG, that is the point.



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Your Name

posted March 12, 2010 at 5:02 pm


HG and Boris,
Why don’t you try focusing on the New Testament which clearly states we are to forgive and love people.
I prefer to focus on a loving God and realize that God does not want to punish us. He wants to love us. I prefer to fucus on the things which are above and to think of the best which life has to offer, wrather than the worst.
So, that is why I do not focus on the things where God punished sinful, wicked people. He sent a rainbow to promise us that He would not flood the world again. If you look at the rainbow, you can see how miraculous the Lord really is, there beautiful.
C



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Your Name

posted March 12, 2010 at 5:04 pm


they are beautiful……….



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Mr. Incredible

posted March 12, 2010 at 5:13 pm


The Street Pahrmie’s Best Customer, Boris, says:
No one has ever found the enormous ark even though we know its final resting place is among the mountains of Ararat located around present-day Turkey (Genesis 8:4).
Mr. Incredible says:
They have found what they believe is Noah’s Ark. This — http://www.arkdiscovery.com/noah's_ark.htm — is just one resource.
The Street Pahrmie’s Best Customer, Boris, says:
All evidence presented as proof of the ark’s discovery has been admitted to be a hoax, proven a hoax, or withheld from testing.
Mr. Incredible says:
Only in YOUR mind.
The Street Pahrmie’s Best Customer, Boris, says:
Although one could reasonably anticipate that someone would have discovered a tangible piece of evidence from the craft if it hasn’t decomposed, multiple expeditions have turned up absolutely nothing.
Mr. Incredible says:
Except that they apparently have.
The Street Pahrmie’s Best Customer, Boris, says:
While many people claim they have evidence for the ark being conveniently underground, no one has ventured to exhume it from the earth.
Mr. Incredible says:
They want not to be as hasty as you.
The Street Pahrmie’s Best Customer, Boris, says:
Appallingly, God drowned unborn children in the flood.
Mr. Incredible says:
No, He didn’t. He allowed the Flood to destroy all evil from the Earth. All the unrighteous on the Eart allowed it cuz they rejected God and the protection Righteousness would have afforded them. This was THEIR choice.
The Street Pahrmie’s Best Customer, Boris, says:
This indisputably necessary consequence of his actions should ironically put a huge kink in the pro-life arguments from the church.
Mr. Incredible says:
No, it shouldn’t, and it doesn’t. There is a difference between the guilty and the innocent, and God warned them. So, they knew ahead of time what not to do, and did it anyway. God cannot protect those who turn their backs on Him.
The Street Pahrmie’s Best Customer, Boris, says:
God aborts countless unborn children…
Mr. Incredible says:
No, He doesn’t.
Old Hebrew has no permissive sense, and, so, the translators inserted a causive sense into the text, thinking that He causes, when, in fact, He allowed it cuz of their rejection of Him. Blame them, not Him.
The Street Pahrmie’s Best Customer, Boris, says:
…for the questionable sins…
Mr. Incredible says:
“Questionable” in YOUR mind, not His, and he makes the rules. You don’t have-ta like it.
The Street Pahrmie’s Best Customer, Boris, says:
…yet the church expects society not to do the same?
Mr. Incredible says:
Do the same what?
The Street Pahrmie’s Best Customer, Boris, says:
Infants and young children who do not possess the intellectual capacity to tell right from wrong were also casualties of the flood!
Mr. Incredible says:
You’re talking about infants and young children today, not then.
Godly children — that is, children conceived and reared in God — were saved; they numbered 6.
The Street Pahrmie’s Best Customer, Boris, says:
How could they be among the wicked and evil?
Mr. Incredible says:
If they were conceived in iniquity and born in sin, they were washed away like the rest of the ungodly.
However, their spirits were saved cuz they are innocent.
The Street Pahrmie’s Best Customer, Boris, says:
These are hardly the actions of the loving God depicted in the New Testament.
Mr. Incredible reminds:
The Flood happened in the Old Testament. You forgot that, huh.
The Street Pahrmie’s Best Customer, Boris, says:
The innocent children didn’t deserve the fate God inexcusably dealt them, end of story.
Mr. Incrfedible says:
You are not greater than God, and, a scoffer, you don’t know the first thing about it, and you KNOW it.
The Street Pahrmie’s Best Customer, Boris, says:
Helpless animals also suffered the horrible fate of the children.
Mr. Incredible says:
Oh, that’s right! Those who choose to claim that they are homosexual look to the animals for guidance and sex life tips. So, you’re sad that the animals died, eh? Gee.
The Street Pahrmie’s Best Customer, Boris, says:
However, given the apparently twisted love that God has for smells from animal sacrifices (Genesis 8:20-21)…
Mr. Incredible says:
Old Testament, not New.
The Street Pahrmie’s Best Customer, Boris, says:
…that last point shouldn’t have been very surprising to someone familiar with the Bible.
Mr. Incredible says:
It looks as though YOU’re pretty surprised.



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posted March 12, 2010 at 5:29 pm


Cara says:
Why don’t you ["Bock" Boris and HG] try focusing on the New Testament which clearly states we are to forgive and love people.
Mr. Incredible says:
Cuz NT clearly states we are to fo’give and love, that’s why. TGhe Devil is all about condemnation, and, so, you see their condemning.



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Cara,
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