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Lynn v. Sekulow


Transparency Remains Elusive

posted by Jay Sekulow

Barry,

 

I agree with you on the fact that most Americans don’t like government ‘secrecy’ and in many respects the vote in Massachusetts clearly reflected a total disgust with the way Washington is operating – especially with health care reform.

 

As you correctly pointed out, this whole health care process has been a nightmare – made worse because of decisions by the President, and Congressional leadership to keep this process under wraps – out of the view of the American people – behind closed doors.

 

Finally, President Obama, still smarting over the stunning loss of Ted Kennedy’s Senate seat, has come clean admitting that it was, to use his word, a ‘mistake’ in failing to be transparent with the American people on health care reform.  

I’m not sure they really get it, though.  Democratic leaders in Congress are still acting like the Massachusetts Senate election didn’t happen.  They are still strategizing (out of the view of the American people of course) about how to move forward on passing a health care plan that most Americans reject.  The health care plan before Congress is now opposed by nearly 60% of the American people.   

 

And, even Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is dragging his feet on this one.  Instead of swearing-in Scott Brown as the new Massachusetts Senator the day after he was elected (after all he was in Washington and even met with Reid that day) the Senate Majority Leader has decided to wait until the election is ‘certified’ by officials in Massachusetts.  

 

That’s an excuse not a legal requirement for not seating the newly elected Senator immediately. Absurd.  In fact, Sen. Ted Kennedy was sworn-in within hours after his win in the 1960’s – long before the results were ‘certified.”  With so much at stake legislatively, Senator-elect Brown needs to get to work without delay – on health care and a host of other issues.

 

Yes, we need more transparency and we need the political games to stop.  In assessing his first year on the job, President Obama said he would forge ahead with his agenda – including health care reform – even it if costs him re-election.  “I’d rather be a really good one-term president than a mediocre two-term president,” he told ABC’s Diane Sawyer. 

 

We will see.

 

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steveintampa

posted January 26, 2010 at 6:29 pm


Obama will be a mediocre one term president.



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DSJulian

posted January 27, 2010 at 3:37 pm


If Obama doesn’t come out swinging tonight he’ll be lucky to make it through one term. The Bush administration never had 60 votes in the Senate yet they were able to gut the Constitution and wreck the economy during his eight lackluster years. If he does get tough, Obama will have one more chance at becoming more like Lyndon Johnson and less like Jimmy Carter… someone who can actually get things done. He needs to stop pussyfooting around with the Party of No and create his own version of the WPA going, and he can finance the whole thing by requiring the Iraqi’s to pay for their own revolution…



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Your Name

posted January 27, 2010 at 4:06 pm


Re: dsjulian
Party of NO?? What? Funding abortion and Embryonic Stem-Cell should be a flat out NO. So people should watch their step and ideals when decided when and if a person should have the right to live through tax dollars, administration, or otherwise!!!
Yes to helping people, NO to killing by administration or otherwise. I am certainly not talking about our National Defense, we need that for life for our country.
Cara



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Steve Adams

posted January 28, 2010 at 12:22 pm


I believe that there is at least as much transparency in the current Congress as there was when Tom Delay and Bill Frist were in control. You guys are so outraged over today’s backroom negotiations. Where was your outrage four years ago? Let’s face it — most members of Congress — of both parties — prefer to keep negotiations out of the public eye to preserve their careers. And let’s not even get into the issue of secrecy in the previous White House. Who was Cheney meeting with, anyway?! He was willing to go to court to maintain his cloak of secrecy. You guys are hypocrites.



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N. Lindzee Lindholm

posted January 28, 2010 at 8:47 pm


I agree that Senator Brown should have been sworn in immediately if this was prior precedent, like with the swearing in of Senator Kennedy. I wonder how many other Senators have been sworn in immediately after versus following a “certified” count.



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Boris

posted January 28, 2010 at 11:01 pm


Bible believers like Lindzee have very selective memories and use very selective observation. How long did it take the Senate to seat Roland Burris after he was appointed by Rod Blagojevich?



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Your Name

posted January 29, 2010 at 4:33 pm


Re: Steve
Who are you calling a hypocrite?
Just maybe his meeting was top secret, that is why the government does not have to diclose all information.
Some things are vital to a countries defense.
As for us getting on the case of this administration compared to the previous administration. Just maybe this administration is on the opposite side of the defense when regarding Embryonic Stem-Cell and abortion, do you think? So the right for the most part is saying that these children who are forming are indeed children, while the left is continually saying we can use these developing… for whatever purpose we so intend because we have found a definition which states that developing people are indeed just organisms. What a lie that one is, don’t you think. If they were just a generic blob of tissue, then there would not be the fight which we have today over saving people in development.
Cara



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Your Name

posted February 1, 2010 at 8:12 pm


skin deep people are pathetic



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Boris

posted February 1, 2010 at 11:33 pm


Cara,
The biggest advantage of embryonic stem cell research is that embryonic stem cells can be manipulated and grown into any type of cell in the human body. Unlike adult stem cells, embryonic cells contain the genetic information for every cell type. This means that scientists can use any cell to grow nerve, blood, tissue or other cells. The advantage to this is that scientists can see how and why a certain cell develops. According to the American Medical Association, there are approximately 215 clinics around the country that house an estimated 2.2 million human embryos. Most of these embryos have no use and will be discarded unless research is conducted. While they are still alive, without a host body in which they can develop, they will never become fully human. However, since they are alive, testing can be conducted in a variety of fashions.
By understanding cell development using embryonic stem cells, doctors and scientists will be able to prevent many birth defects. Different forms of defects occur at varying stages of development within the womb. Studies on embryonic stem cells will allow them to find the exact point certain cells mutate and a birth defect is formed. Scientists will be able to prevent this from occurring, either by stimulating or blocking certain enzymes while in the womb. Approximately 3 percent of babies are born with birth defects in the United States according to the University of Virginia. Scientists believe they can limit at least 1 percent of these defects using embryonic stem cell research.
Embryonic stem cell research can prevent birth defects. So Cara, if you really cared about the unborn you would not try to stand in the way of medical progress which is aimed at limiting birth defects and helping to produce healthier babies. Once again though, your ideology is more important to you than the health and safety of fetuses and the women who carry them. You don’t really care about the unborn or you would not be against medical progress that will prevent birth defects. This just proves that all you are really interested in is forcing your religious beliefs on the rest of us.



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Your Name

posted February 2, 2010 at 4:53 pm


Re: Boris
They shouldn’t be fertilizing too many eggs in the clinic that they do not use. They should not also be deciding who lives or dies. Those are people, Posterity, Boris.
They deserve to be defended and a life of Liberty, not for a scientist to decide who to destroy for whatever purpose.
So, no Boris I believe in equal rights for our Posterity, just as yourself. They should not be abandoning those children in a lab to die for whatever purpose. That is still murder. Those are still people. They should only fertilize the eggs they are to use, not to decide which one to kill and which one to try and see if they take in the mother’s womb. So that would be murder in my eye’s as well. Those are our future generations of people being destroyed, it does not give you the right to use their body parts. Those are people being destroyed.
America Lives,
Cara



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posted February 2, 2010 at 5:09 pm


What about cord blood, or people which die(young, old infant) with death certificates, have you considered getting a written consent form of release for using their bodies for science purposes?
That would not be murdering people.
Cara



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Boris

posted February 3, 2010 at 10:18 pm


The Christian Church stifled 1500 years of medical progress. Were it not for religious persecution and oppression of science, mankind might have landed on the moon in the year 650 CE cancer may have been eradicated forever by the year 800 CE. And heart disease may, today, be unknown. But Christianity put into deep hibernation the Greek and Egyptian scientific gains of the past. Historically, the Church has fought venomously and even violently against each new scientific and medical advance. But after fruitlessly criticizing each new scientific achievement, the Church soon flip-flopped its position and embraced the new discovery as a “gift from God to mankind.” The Christians have angrily denounced the introduction of medicines, antibiotics, anesthesia, surgery, blood transfusions, birth control, transplants, in vitro fertilization and most forms of painkillers. Supposedly, these scientific tools interfered with nature and therefore were against God’s will. Today, Bible believers are fighting stem-cell research, cloning technology and genetic engineering. But when cloning laboratories provide an unlimited supply of transplant tissue for dying children, and when genetic engineering cures all forms of cancer, Church leaders will once again forget their initial opposition and hail these achievements as evidence of god’s love for mankind. Today, science is prevailing, but throughout most of recorded history, the Christian religion has strangled scientific inquiry and often tortured and executed those who advocated the scientific method.



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Your Name

posted February 4, 2010 at 4:41 pm


Re: Boris
What I say about your last blog is this. I don not believe in killing people for cures. It is against our government’s very own Constitution.
I am all for the cures and scientific testing and whatever they can do with keeping up the ethical point of not messing with killing people. I am against not using the Human Embryo’s for fertiltization when they have already been fertilized by sperm. For when abandoned or destroyed for science purposes, this is still killing people.
There are other ways of doing research, right? Or is the only way you want to do research is by taking another person’s living body and ending their life. Try doing research another way.
Cara



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Your Name

posted February 4, 2010 at 8:47 pm


Correction-
I am against using Human Embryo’s which are in the process of growing for cures, because this in fact killing growing people. When the Embryo’s have been abandoned in a fertility clinic, it would be still killing the children. So they should only fertilize the eggs which they are going to use. They should not select, who should live and die based on their own beliefs. For this is against our Posterity having liberty and a defense.
Cara



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Boris

posted February 4, 2010 at 9:02 pm


Cara,
Your stupidity and ignorance of science is just off the charts. Embryonic stem cells are not little people. They can be turned into any kind of cell scientists need them to be. For example in Sweden scientists grew a new jaw for a man in his stomach using embryonic stem cells. Other countries are moving ahead of the Unites States in medical technology. People like you want to turn the United States into a backward religious theocracy like Iran and make it so more Americans have to lave the country to get proper medial attention. You make me sick.



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Your Name

posted February 4, 2010 at 9:06 pm


Re: Boris
Notice the root Embryo. That would be human Embryo. Which are in fact developing people.
Try not attacking other people, Boris.
Cara



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Your Name

posted February 4, 2010 at 9:08 pm


Human Embryo’s are in fact developing people.
Cara



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Can't believe how stupid Cara is

posted February 5, 2010 at 12:25 pm


Just by stating something is a fact doesn’t make it so. Wow — your posts should be used as an example of how broken the U.S. education system is. You at a 6th grade reading level yet sweetheart? Someone could have a full time job correcting your grammar, spelling, and complete lack of logic. If the embryos you’re trying so hard to protect are going grow to turn out like you that’s a case for abortion in itself.



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Your Name

posted February 5, 2010 at 5:19 pm


Re: Can’t believe how stupid Cara is
Yes, you too are calling your kettle black. No, I do read beyond 6th grade thank you very much. So let’s look at your last blog and recognize things about you. So I am very sorry you have poor grammer, a complete lack of knowledge and you feel if embryos turn out like you that they should be murdered through abortion.
Interesting in light of The Constitution Of The United States of America how wrong you are. Insults come when people are threatened. So believe me, I do not think the things about myself that you wrote in your last blog. For they are about you and not myself. What are you so afraid of, the truth?
Cara Lea Floyd



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Can't believe how ignorant Cara is

posted February 5, 2010 at 7:36 pm


If one person was finding flaw with your postings you might be justified in questioning the validity of their arguments. Unfortunately for you (and the people who have to read your nonsense) the majority seem to think you’ve got a screw loose. Go back to the dictionary and look this up: loser
Please stop posting comments that are a clear waste of everyone’s time including yours. Shouldn’t you be out thumping bibles?



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Your Name

posted February 6, 2010 at 5:50 pm


Re: The ignorant and disrespecful post
Stick to the topic.
People are people. It just so happens that others make money off of lies and corruption. Despite the fact that they are people and deserve liberty. I am sorry you are so disrespecful in your post.
They say allot about your character.
Cara



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DSJulian

posted February 7, 2010 at 4:13 pm


Not 60%, Jay — practically everyone in America is opposed to it. Not because it is health care reform, but because it isn’t. Obama and the ball-less Dems have allowed what should have been a slam dunk to get drowned by the health insurance lobbies, and what is left is so watered-down that nobody wants it. There was only one logical way to reform the world-wide public embarrassment we currently have and that was by amending the current Medicare bill to include everyone. That only takes 51 votes, not the 60-vote supermajority. The truth is that too darn many congressmen on all three sides of the aisle are on the health insurance lobby take, and as long as they are we are all going to suffer…
What makes this country great is that even someone as single-minded as Cara has the right to her opinion. We don’t educate her by insulting her. She has the same right to be wrong as you and I…



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Your Name

posted February 7, 2010 at 6:02 pm


Re: dsjulian
Once again a put down, which is no reflection on my education. It is a reflection of yourself, dsjulian. So you feel you are single minded then, dsjulian?
Whatever that is supposed to mean? Are you trying to degrade me because I in fact have something to point out that you have not?
Stick to the point, dsjulian, for what I received my education from is from the very best. I would not look to your post for anything of value. For health care which involves abortion procedures with US tax dollars is in fact against the Constitution.
People who put others have a poor self-esteem. I could have been studying the Bible my whole life and you could have been studying the secular educational system for whatever length of time you want. I could find your education to be of no value to what I find as being important. So you go about your day and realize there are others who could very well be wiser in a field you know nothing about. For I realize true intelligence comes from people who have a teachable Spirit and look to God as their resource. You may not. My mind is certainly not single minded in the fact that there is a whole bunch of people that believe the Bible.
As far as our Posterity being destroyed, they are. This is indeed against the Constitution. So, I may be the one pointing it out, but remember it only took one to invent the lightbulb. He of course did not get his mission accomplished on the first try, now did he? Cara



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Your Name

posted February 7, 2010 at 6:04 pm


Re: dsjulian
You put me down!!!!! That is wrong!!!!!!!! Sorry I left a word out there. Your not educating me in the least. So you must find that you lack education in the fact that you are putting me down. I am fine with mine.
Cara



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HG

posted February 7, 2010 at 6:10 pm


Excellent points, all, DSJulian; but it is reasonable to point out, in a debate, when your opponent shows poor reading comprehension. It may be insulting, it may do little good, but a person’s willful attachment to ignorance is fair game in pointing out the dead weight in, and behind, an uninformed opinion.



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Your Name

posted February 8, 2010 at 3:38 pm


re: hg
You support abuse and avoid the real issue.
re: dsjulian
Your are an abusive person who is certianly not worth my time.
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I am not fair game for you to jab because you have a poor self-esteem.
You are what you are.
Cara



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HG

posted February 8, 2010 at 4:03 pm


“I am not fair game for you to jab because you have a poor self-esteem.
You are what you are.”
Yes, you are fair game when you post on a public forum. I do not have poor self-esteem, in fact, my self-esteem gets a boost when I come to this site and read your posts. I know it doesn’t count for much, besting an idiot in debate, but hey, I’m easily amused.
Yes, I know what I am. I know what you are too.



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Your Name

posted February 8, 2010 at 4:57 pm


no time for abusers



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Your Name

posted February 8, 2010 at 5:03 pm


The United States Constitution
We the People of the United States in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish justice, insure dometic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfarae and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
*Posterity- future gernerations.
Best Regards,
Cara Lea Floyd



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Your Name

posted February 8, 2010 at 5:05 pm


welfare- health, hapiness, and good fortune; well-being.
Cara



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Your Name

posted February 8, 2010 at 5:17 pm


We the People of the United States in Order to form a more perfect union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
*Welfare- health, happiness, and good fortune; well-being.
Best Regards,
Cara Lea Floyd



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Your Name

posted February 8, 2010 at 10:10 pm


Excellent set of goals. In order to do those things, they established the Constitution (wherein they set out the details of HOW they would). I’m all for it, and glad they did. They did a very good job imho.



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HG

posted February 8, 2010 at 10:40 pm


They kept track of descendants much the same way back then, they recorded the birth. Never heard of them tracking the date of inception, never happened. They never thought of the embryo’s and fetuses which were never born as “descendants”, I’m sure, and it’s ridiculous to try and claim that the Framers were intent upon protecting the rights of eggs as “descendants”. The obvious emphasis was on “securing Liberty”; more difficult to secure than eggs, and more dear.



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Your Name

posted February 9, 2010 at 4:13 pm


Posterity-future generations.
Unfortunatly the science community and laws have taken our future descendants out of their natural environment so they couldn’t be born.
That would be murder. Nothing to be proud of, it happened when they started devaluing human beings and thinking they were science projects they could fool around with. People are not to be destroyed for a cure. People can help people find a cure, but kill people, no.
That would be, unconstitutional.
Truth,
Cara



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Your Name

posted February 9, 2010 at 4:21 pm


Unfortunatly our descendants were torn from their natural environment so they could not descend into a life of liberty.
This does not take away the fact that if people did not take away their essentials of life, they would in fact be able to descend. That is why it is murdering our descendants. They take away the birthing process and give them a life sentence.
Posterity-future generations.
Truth,
Cara



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HG

posted February 9, 2010 at 4:35 pm


“Unfortunatly our descendants were torn from their natural environment so they could not descend into a life of liberty.”
Again, eggs and fetuses, living or dead, don’t qualify as descendants. Never have. Birth records show descendants.
Again, use of the word murder is a deliberate error on your part. An error which has been repeatedly corrected by people with functioning brains. You don’t learn. That’s a big drawback for you.



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Your Name

posted February 10, 2010 at 3:15 pm


Abuse, does not take away the fact that you and your like minded associates are in fact taking developing people through a manual procedure brought forth by laws which mistreat Posterity. This prevents our Posterity from having a life of liberty, welfare, and a viable defense.
So, in conclusion, I did learn! Unlike yourself who keeps beating the same old drum, that it is ok to destroy developing people because science has come up with a way to put them in a lab and take away our Posterity. So, let us not look to leadership which tends to deny people as people. The drum beat of a right to privately murder developing people is getting stale, as well.
Truth,
Cara



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HG

posted February 10, 2010 at 3:33 pm


“This prevents our Posterity from having a life of liberty, welfare, and a viable defense.”
No, it doesn’t. Our posterity currently consists of a very large number of human beings. It is their Liberties (and mine), which the Constitutional intro requests us to secure, that I’m worried about–with people like you trying to take them away all the time, one must be vigilant.



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Your Name

posted February 11, 2010 at 2:38 pm


RE: HG
Posterity is future generations.
So HG, that would include developing people in a science lab or in a womb which have been murdered by law because of people like you abusing their liberty.
Cara



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Your Name

posted February 11, 2010 at 2:46 pm


Posterity- all of our future generations of people.
They have liberties as well which are being smashed to bits and pieces because there are people like you who think of themselves more highly over another. Leaving our Posterity to die to abortion and Embryonic Stem-Cell and fertility clinics( the Embryo’s they choose to deny a life).
CARA



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Your Name

posted February 11, 2010 at 2:49 pm


RE: Morning After Pills (these are abortions in a bottle).
Which are another way of taking a developing person out of their escential environment to grow. Which is indeed killing a developing human being. They too, are our future generations of people(Posterity).
Cara



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Your Name

posted February 11, 2010 at 2:51 pm


So are we going to put our Posteity into the future, or are we as a nation with laws going to snuff them out before they are born????????



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HG

posted February 11, 2010 at 3:41 pm


“Posterity, posterity, auuk!”, you sound like Polly the Parrot. This ridiculous argument of yours has been SHREDDED.



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Boris

posted February 11, 2010 at 10:22 pm


Cara,
Your stupidity is just off the charts. Morning after pills PREVENT conception. Why don’t you do a little research on this subject rather than expose your willful ignorance?



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HG

posted February 11, 2010 at 11:24 pm


“Abortions in a bottle”, now that’s a beauty! ROTFFLMAO Boris! It’s like there’s a contest going on among the fundies to grow support for the most ridiculous statement! Some of this stuff belongs on Comedy Central. It’s so much funnier (and sadder) because, (I think) they’re (trying to be) serious!



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Your Name

posted February 12, 2010 at 5:22 pm


Re: boris
From my understanding these pills do not prevent the sperm from penatrating the egg. These pills prevent the fertilized human embryo from sticking to the lining of the uterus so the developing child can not survive and is flushed out of the womb. Is that why there is so many people at pharmacy’s and the like that do not want to pass out the pills? For that would be murder.
Cara Floyd



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Your Name

posted February 12, 2010 at 5:23 pm


The United States Constitution



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