Lynn v. Sekulow

Lynn v. Sekulow


No Agreement on Health Care; How About Faith-Based Volunteerism?

posted by Jay Sekulow

Barry, I know we won’t agree on the abortion/health care issue – but it’s worth noting that we have heard from more than 70,000 Americans (more than 60,000 online) who are demanding that Congress include an exclusion on abortion services to prevent them from becoming mandatory benefits in any health care legislation.  There are a number of pro-life amendments being considered now in the House and we will continue to support these measures as the debate continues.

 

With respect to parental rights, it’s important for parents to be able to rely on their deeply held religious beliefs when it comes to the care and upbringing of their children.  Parental rights, however, must never be used as a guise for abuse or neglect.  If medical issues are involved, there must be a balance between parental rights and doing what is best for the child. 

Barry, I want to call your attention to an interesting report on volunteerism in America.  And, what’s particularly interesting about this study conducted by the Corporation for National & Community Service, a federal agency, is the contribution that faith-based organizations make toward volunteer work.

 

The new study concludes that religious organizations are the most popular organizations through which volunteers serve – faith-based groups attracting the most volunteers.  The study cites that in the last two years (2006-08) nearly 36% of all volunteers worked with religious organizations.  The numbers are even higher for older adults (47%) and African-American volunteers (47.1%).

 

And, those who do volunteer work through faith-based groups are more likely to keep doing that work – 70% of volunteers linked directly to faith-based groups continue serving from one year to the next – the highest retention rate among volunteers.

 

According to the study, a total of nearly 62-million Americans volunteered through an organization in 2008 – up one million from the previous year.  That’s 8-billion hours of service worth an estimated $162-billion.

 

It’s encouraging to see the spirit of volunteerism thriving – and it’s even more encouraging to see the important role played by faith-based organizations.  That’s a good thing, isn’t it Barry?

 

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Helen

posted July 31, 2009 at 10:29 am


How can Obama initiate anything if we don’t know if he’s a legal president?? OBAMA REFUSES TO SHOW IS BIRTH CERTIFICATE! SIGN AFFIDAVITS SAY HE WAS BORN IN KENYA! We need one of our OWN kind in the White house!



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Gwyddion9

posted July 31, 2009 at 11:29 am


Good God Helen, stop listening to religious reich propaganda, his birth certificate shows and states he was born in Hawaii. sheesh!!!!!
Faith-Based Volunteerism – No. this would simply be another reason and example of people who would say, “no, i won’t treat you because you don’t believe as I do.” Faith based is over rated and most of those who use it are the conservatives, who are only interested in protecting their best interests and beliefs AND being able to push others around using those beliefs.



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Mr. Incredible

posted August 1, 2009 at 3:47 am


==his birth certificate shows and states he was born in Hawaii.==
Which one?



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Mr. Incredible

posted August 1, 2009 at 3:51 am


==Faith based is over rated and most of those who use it are the conservatives, who are only interested in protecting their best interests and beliefs AND being able to push others around using those beliefs. ==
Out of which Lib garbage can did you dig that?



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Mr. Incredible

posted August 1, 2009 at 6:38 am


Gwyddion9
July 31, 2009 11:29 AM
Faith-Based Volunteerism – No. this would simply be another reason and example of people who would say, “no, i won’t treat you because you don’t believe as I do.”
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Soooo, you don’t buy into this “conscience” thing, huh. You also didn’t buy into that “conscientious objector” thing either, huh.
So, if you violate a pharmicist’s conscience, whose conscience will be next? Doesn’t he have privacy and the Right to choose?



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Jimbino

posted August 1, 2009 at 11:50 am


WRONG, Jay.
Voluntarism, like Altruism, is highly over-rated. Haven’t you read “The Fountainhead” or “Atlas Shrugged” by Ayn Rand?



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Rich

posted August 1, 2009 at 1:37 pm


Mr. Incredible,
No, a pharmacist does have “special religious rights” while he remains a state licensed pharmacist. The entire public pays for the licensing, monitoring and regulation of pharmacists. A pharmacy license is a public trust that is meant to serve the entire public. By a pharmacist refusing to provide services to a certain sector of the population, that pharmacist is abrogating his public trust and therefore his license should be revoked. Simple as that.
And, by the way, I don’t support conscientious objector status for the military or anything else. If the country needs to be defended, then all citizens should be obligated to defend it with not exceptions for the religious objectors. The religious have the same obligations as any other citizen, they are not special.
As well, any Islamic animal control officer who refused to pick up a stray pig roaming the streets should be fired. If the job requires that, so be it. No preference or special rights should be given to anyone for any reason at all.



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Your Name

posted August 1, 2009 at 4:39 pm


The people should have the right to refuse to be forced to give out murder pills(pro-choice). They should not have to be forced to legally give way to murderous policies, just because public policies give people the right to murder children. Which is ludicrous by any standard. So, for the record I would like to state that doctors should not have to be forced to murder children either.
Pippy



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Nicholas

posted August 1, 2009 at 5:22 pm


Don’t expect Jay will get Barry to object to people volunteering wherever it’s done. 36% doesn’t sound like so much to me. What does that prove anyway and what does it have to do with the government funding faith based organizations in violation of the 1st amendment?
Jays comment on parental rights is also worded uncontroversially. Parents should have rights but not to the point of abuse or neglect. Ok, what’s his real stand on faith healing when parents rely on prayer rather than medicine often to the detriment to the child? That’s a tough one for me as my pro choice stance is tough. Part of me wants to say the government should be hands off but then I think of the poor kid suffering and even dying while the family prays in vain. I was employed at the Christian Science Monitor when the Twitchell case occured – A child dying of a bowel obstruction that could have easily been remedied medically. Whaddya say Jay?



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Nicholas

posted August 1, 2009 at 5:35 pm


70,000 Thats about the population of Waltham Massachusetts. It probably wouldnt be hard to get that number of Americans to sign on to just about anything



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Gwyddion9

posted August 1, 2009 at 11:46 pm


Mr. Incredible,
You said, “So, if you violate a pharmacist’s conscience, whose conscience will be next? Doesn’t he have privacy and the Right to choose?”
My response, cry me a river!
Conservative Christians like to take the approach that somehow their actions are superior, holier, and better than everyone else, so that a conservative Christian has no issue with denying someone else if it goes against their beliefs but god forbid it happens to them.
As already stated by Rich, if “that pharmacist is abrogating his public trust and therefore his license should be revoked.” Plain, simple and to the point and I agree 100%.
If an individual chooses a profession where this or something similar may be a challenge to their personal beliefs, then they either need to find something else, fill the script and suck it up or (I don’t have an issue if this was done) not give out the medication BUT find another pharmacist there who will fill the script. NO exceptions.



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V

posted August 3, 2009 at 10:49 am


Birthers: It’s good to see you paying attention! Out of curiosity, how many times have you signed the ACLJ Petition today? Can you actually feel your colleagues on the right wince when you chime in, or are you oblivious to that too?
Jimbino: If you want to get into Objectivism, may I suggest you read some of Rand’s non-fiction work? The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged are wonderful books, but they ARE fiction. Rand wrote a good many essays and gave a great many speeches on her philosophies after publishing Atlas.
Religious objection to professional tasks: If you can’t take the heat, get out of the kitchen. If you object to what your job entails, then it’s time to resign. Resign in protest, write a nasty letter, become an activist, whatever – but you CAN NOT deny people services mandated by your profession based upon your personal beliefs. Should a liberal firefighter refuse to save a burning fundamentalist church? Should a gun control activist who works for UPS refuse to deliver a package knowing that it contains a hunting rifle? Once you open the Pandora’s Box of allowing people to choose what they can or can’t do in their job without penalty, it will be *very* difficult to close again. Personal != Professional.
Faith based volunteerism: Any volunteerism is good, and is a great benefit to the community being served. Whether it is done by faith groups or secular groups, I’m sure the community appreciates it all the same. Do we really need to keep score on which organization delivered the most food and water?



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Jimbino

posted August 3, 2009 at 11:21 am


V,
So the Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged are fiction. What’s your point? Uncle Tom’s cabin and the Bible are fiction too and they have both been monumentally influential.
Ayn Rand was a lousy philosopher, but the message in her novels rings true. That’s why they are again outselling the Bible.



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Your Name

posted August 3, 2009 at 2:56 pm


Faith without works is dead. So I do believe that you need to go get treated for things, wrather than sit on your tucous and watch the birdies sing.
Pippy



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Your Name

posted August 3, 2009 at 10:07 pm


Yes, yes, yes, to supporting lifetime goals and regulations of things which impose murder on individuals. If for instance you are trying to say that it does not realy matter when people choose to murder children because it is there choice to do it privately with their doctor. Interesting conscept huh, how the public has become so swayed in voting the direction of private murder and the like.
For that is what it is private murder. Why would one private murder between a doctor and another private murder between a doctor be considered criminal and the next a private choice of the reproductive system. Is that just another way to justify the murder?
Well, enough about that, I can’t help it if people want to sit back and silently watch.
I consider the loss of the world and hope for a better tomarrow. For joy comes in the morning, ey padre. It is funny the reaction I receive to people and what they consider valueable and the like. Some people value money more than people. Some people value fame and fortune over being kind. I do not exspect to be liked by everyone. For they to will meet their maker someday and be accountable for how they treated me. Of course there are kind people who are conscerned for my well being and want the best for me. People who do not want to neglect or treat me with abuse. I have needed time alone and seek refuge in a blanket now and again, who hasn’t. I have dealt with alot of loss, heartache, and painstaken situations. I can’t even tell you the whole happennings of every situation. Some are just to painful. So I sit here writing in hopes of a better day. Which I feel is now. It certainly is not as painful as yesterday or have as many losses as was. So a toast for tomarrow and the like my friends. Until we meet again.
Pippy
p.s. Children, I hope you are getting stories read to you at night and your being well taken care of. Your the cutest kids ever and you deserve the very best which life has to offer.



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Mary-Lee

posted August 5, 2009 at 8:51 am


So, if you violate a pharmicist’s conscience, whose conscience will be next? Doesn’t he have privacy and the Right to choose?
That is ridiculous.
Would someone who faints at the sight of blood choose to become a doctor? Would someone who is terrified of spiders choose a career in arachnology?
Why on earth would a person who objects to the morning after pill choose to be a pharmacist?



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Mary-Lee

posted August 5, 2009 at 9:28 am


… but it’s worth noting that we have heard from more than 70,000 Americans (more than 60,000 online) who are demanding that Congress include an exclusion on abortion services to prevent them from becoming mandatory benefits in any health care legislation.
As you well know, Jay, 70,000 opinions represent a drop in the bucket when it comes to public opinion.
Additionally, there are so many people who want abortion to remain safe and legal. Abortion services must remain a part of health care legislation. You don’t have to provide these services, but they must remain.



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Your Name

posted August 5, 2009 at 2:12 pm


Dear Mary-Lee, Were you agreeing with the fact the people should be forced to help provide murder either by telephone, pill, proceedure and the like. Don’t people have the right to change their mind when they to find out that the are participating in the murder event? I for one would like to state for the record that people should not have to provide necessary meens of obligating ones time and effort for such an event. This is a ludicrous idea from the beginning. First of all it violates the right to born and have a life worth living. These artificial meens of worthiness of ones own ideals and the like are so outrageous that it is not even funny. When one refuses to participate in such outlandish character of degrading humen beings to such a degree of disvalueable tissue is the first step to getting there life in line with good moral character from my point of view. They have brought the person down to selling body parts, getting rid of it before it gets a chance to grow and on top of that they think it is right because there is some right to privacy of what? constitutional murder. Nope. Pippy finds the dehumanization of living people greatly dishardenning and she finds people who participate in the event greatly immoral, insensitive or selfish. It is possible that the have become clueless as to what a person realy is and they should be notified as soon as possible so the murder does stop. So please let the people know what they are doing A.S.A.P.



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Boris

posted August 5, 2009 at 8:59 pm


Somebody change Pippy’s diaper.



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N. Lindzee Lindholm

posted August 5, 2009 at 9:39 pm


From a character standpoint, volunteerism is crucial to develop important qualities in all people, but is particularly a wonderful opportunity for young people to learn self-sacrifice, the importance of serving one’s country and God, teamwork, kindness, respect for all people including those who are less fortunate and different from oneself whether it be race, ethnicity or creed, and the intrinsic value of service that cannot be experienced in a job offering paid compensation. Volunteering also offers a no-risk trial of certain activities and the attainment of skills and experience for one’s future vocation. In addition, medical research studies have found volunteering to have a positive effect on the physical state of one’s heart.
As an active church member, I have gained new friends, wonderful fellowship, and God’s blessings in following His command for Christians to use their gifts to serve and build up the body of Christ. I recommend both sacred and secular volunteer opportunities, but especially emphasize service in a local church as we learn to love God and serve one another.



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Your Name

posted August 6, 2009 at 1:37 pm


I always find people who cut others down in such a fashion consist of nothing more than low selfesteem. Of course this is your choice to do so. Pippy does not need diapers. Thanks for the compliment though. You must have some agenda to constantly downgrade people and the like to be valued far less then you. When you start respecting people and the like, then I might get something out of your debating blogs. That might seem like a chop to, I suppose. I am only pointing out that you consistantly cut others down. No surprise though, seeing how I have seen you consistantly belittle children to the point of disregarding their value of living such to put into practice the writing post which support killing the little children. Pippy is not overwelmed by such attitudes that it will not get her down. She finds people who feel this way greatly disheartenning to the humen well being of America or the world for that matter. Too bad she doesn’t have a husband to take her out on a boat or something to drowned her sarrows in a macaroni pasta dish. No, she can’t have that she needs to be her typical super model self so she can get a good paying job. Well, maybe if she buys some plants for her bedroom she will get over such disgusting thought patterns. Well off to the races my friends. Pippy needs to learn to not spend so much time on people who don’t appreciate her and want the best for her. Have a great day people. Pippy p.s. I need to take some Advil, I have a great headache for days now and the President has not valued those little tiny people in embryo form yet. So off to the market and hopefully I will have a better day.



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Boris

posted August 6, 2009 at 1:54 pm


Don’t forget to get the diapers for Pippy at the market.



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Your Name

posted August 7, 2009 at 4:31 pm


Yes, Boris I will take care of you and make sure your diapers are changed. Pippy went to sleep and had a long rest last night and she thinks Boris is a tad bit toddlerish and so she moves on to a better future with her love ones who wish and hope the best for her.
Pippy



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Your Name

posted August 7, 2009 at 4:35 pm


Why all the fighting, Boris? Can’t you find something better to do then put down people who defend the unborn children. There might be a need to get some help for your unresolved anxiety problems, to to consistantly putting others down.
Taylor Anne



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Boris

posted August 7, 2009 at 8:46 pm


Taylor Anne,
What you call defending the unborn is really attacking women’s rights. I don’t have any anxiety problems. I cause them. In religious people. Like you. That’s YOUR anxiety problem not mine.



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Your Name

posted August 8, 2009 at 2:31 pm


Yes, I do need to stop trying to convince people who consider evil as there source of honor. No anxiety problem over you Boris, I was only trying to enlighten you on to what is right and wrong, but if you constantly choose evil, then that is your choice.
Taylor Anne



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Boris

posted August 8, 2009 at 10:22 pm


I really don’t need the dingbat version of the difference between right and wrong thank you. I’m an atheist so I know the difference between right and wrong, I’ve figured it out for myself using critical analysis. Unlike religious people who need to be told by other people how to live.



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Emmett Scott Lang

posted August 10, 2009 at 5:39 pm


This is unrelated to this topic but I could not find a place to post this !
Could the Flag e-mail at the WhiteHouse be an issue ACLJ could join with the ACLU on ? I bet it would be easy to get them to co-sponsor or send and amiecus brief on that WITH the ACLJ !!!



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Your Name

posted August 10, 2009 at 10:12 pm


You can use all the critical thinking you want when it comes right down to it, if you can’t see yourself in the mirror and realize that your so amazingly designed, then I don’t know what to tell you. Look at the way light reflects into your eye. Like a petal of a flower with color that only you have. For there is only one eye like yours ever created. Or what about the design of a women and a male joining together sexually in a design which creates life. Of which you can not have done it yourself or it could not have beeb a random chance. Enough said, I hope someday you realize that God loves you and he wants the best for you.
Taylor Anne



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SKG

posted August 15, 2009 at 7:13 pm


Boris,
Sadly all that comes through in your posts is hatred and bitterness. Unfortunately when you speak that is all we hear. Your message is lost.
There is more to life. Please seek Him.



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Boris

posted August 16, 2009 at 9:54 am


SKJ
No what you hear from me is that your evil and false religion is a cultural disaster. The worst human tragedy that ever came upon this planet.



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Tony Ritcherson

posted August 28, 2009 at 10:28 pm


I don’t really know if Obama’s birth certificate has been seen or not. Many people are saying that it has not been seen. But if it had not been seen, then how could he have ever become President in the first place? The President of the USA has to be born in the USA and must be at least 35 years old.
This probably wouldn’t even be worth mentioning were it not for the other things that are happening to our Constitution these days. But just jumping back to the birth certificate – to end the argument, why didn’t Obama just show it on TV or the internet, and settle the thing once and for all?
Oh well. This is probably not even worth arguing. But, again, why don’t they just show it and be done with it?
As it stands, it just look like another place where they are totally attempting to destroy freedom in this country and rip the Constitution to shreds.



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Boris

posted August 28, 2009 at 10:36 pm


If these birther nuts really thought Obama wasn’t a citizen they wouldn’t just be trying to say he shouldn’t be president. They would be trying to get him deported. Think about it. Unless you’re a Christian of course. Then you wouldn’t be allowed to think about it.



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Tony Ritcherson

posted August 28, 2009 at 10:47 pm


I don’t believe that the argument about health care is even about health care. We are putting the emphasis in the wrong place! I don’t believe that President Obama could care one iota about health care. He, whether knowingly or unknowlingly, is looking for power. Our Founding Fathers didn’t trust government, and neither should we. F. A. Hayek’s book, “Road to Serfdom” tells it like it is. Socialism always leads to totalitarianism! If government begins to grow, it will also become obnoxiously overbearing. That’s why we still need a separation of powers. If you allow one part of government to outgrow its limits, and it will begin to force the other parts of government under its confining wings, and will hold them like chains. The Congress allowed the Supreme Court to begin usurping power years ago, and the power usurped has begun to pulverise us! Now, Congress once again is allowing the power to be unconstitutionally usurped, but this time by the President.
So government is breaking out of its cage, and unless we put it back in there, it will destroy us as a nation!



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