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Think the “Culture Wars” Are Over? I Have a Bridge in Brooklyn For Sale

posted by Rev. Barry W. Lynn

Maybe  James Dobson was just having a particularly bad day.  As the top Religious Right leader gave a “farewell speech” to the staff at Focus On the Family he noted that “we are awash in evil” and that “humanly speaking, we can say we have lost all those battles.”  By those battles he meant the “cultural” clash over reproductive choice, gay rights and censorship. As a few bloggers did point out, however, Dobson also noted that “God is in control and we are not going to give up, right?”

Of course, Dobson and his “far-right-of-center” colleagues aren’t giving up.  They have a mound of money, are raising more with Obama-bashing every day and continue to return to the wells of gay-bashing and vilifying the separation of church and state on a daily basis.  In the last year for which we have IRS records, Focus took in about $145 million and Dobson’s more overtly political arm vacuumed in an additional $10 million.

Now, I’d say thankfully, Dobson has lost some big battles: no
constitutional amendments to outlaw abortion, define marriage as “one
man and one woman,” or return government-sponsored prayer to public
school.  I hope he loses plenty more. 

However, we can’t look at the Right’s record and not see how
successful they have been in other venues.  On Election Night 2008, they managed to get voters to adopt three anti-gay state constitutional
amendments in Arkansas, California and Florida. Some years they manage
to get a half dozen restrictions on reproductive choice enacted in
state legislatures.  Moreover, their often hand-selected, George Bush-appointed federal judges chip away at church/state separation or even
deny litigants a day in court to protest intrusions into religious

I discussed some of this last night on Ed Schultz’s new MSNBC show;
Dobson will be making an appearance with Sean Hannity on Fox tonight to
“clarify” his comments on the “culture wars.”  When all is said and
done, it may be that Dr. Dobson and I finally agree on something: those
wars are not over and the “soul” (literally or figuratively) of America
is still in the balance.

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Cara Floyd

posted April 14, 2009 at 6:19 pm

I do not know Dr. Dobson’s salary or how much he gives to charitable foundations to evaluate if what he is doing, is right or wrong from a biblical perspective. I do know this, that it takes money to defend biblical perspectives in leadership, either through radio or televised broadcasts. From my knowledge of past programs of hearing Dr. Dobson, I noted to myself, that he truely was conscerned with the focus on the family and seemed to always have best intentions for every idividual he would speak about. But, for those who are out there, who consistantly want leadership of all values and ideals of whatever type of moral system is there fancy for the hour. They might find his conservative or should I just write biblical principals, confining to one’s sinful nature. And yes, I know there are individuals who don’t believe in sin or hell for that matter.
Cara Floyd
p.s. And yes, I understand that there are christians who do not believe in tithing either.

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posted April 14, 2009 at 7:46 pm

I believe in sin and hell, as a Christian I see it consistently on the net, in the news, and in the newspapers. Right now there is a young gay man fighting for his life after being beaten up by two brothers as he left a restaurant this past week. He might lose sight out of one of his eyes, and he’s deaf in one ear. He suffered brain injuries, as well. The people who continue to preach against LGBT because of their religion are contributing to these attacks.

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posted April 14, 2009 at 9:32 pm

“The people who continue to preach against LGBT because of their religion are contributing to these attacks.”
Careful, H22. If you point that out, you’ll be considered a fascist who wants to ban Christianity and legalize human-plant marriages.
This “culture war” thing would be slightly less aggravating if the other side on the LGBT issue were actually arguing with us, rather than with their imaginary friend, Mr. Gay McStereotype.

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posted April 15, 2009 at 8:49 am

I do know this, that it takes money to defend biblical perspectives in leadership, either through radio or televised broadcasts.
Why do you think biblical perspectives must be defended, Cara? Do you honestly believe there is anyone in the U.S. who doesn’t know already what the bible says?

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posted April 15, 2009 at 12:23 pm

Why do you think biblical perspectives must be defended, Cara? Do you honestly believe there is anyone in the U.S. who doesn’t know already what the bible says?
Boris says: Mary Lee, Yes and we call these people fundamentalist Christians.

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posted April 15, 2009 at 1:07 pm

Rev.? What is your paosition on the issues Dobson “failed” at?
I understand that when it comes to the rights of humans, GOD is liberal meaning he allows for us to do what it is we choose however, his position on the array of choices is as firm as the day is short!
God allows us these freedoms but does not support them! Do you support them as a Rev.? You support abortion? You support a Government that has lied to us many times and obviously? It’s a great thing for Christians to be vocal as long as it is concerning God’s will and not exploiting freedom’s. Where is our freedom to believe?
Look up Zydgeist on YOUTUBE and Debunk it for me and then you will have a case against the suspicion of Goverment
Look up Matthew 5:17 and state your case against the morale of God’s law… you can’t do that.. the morale is so naturally common-sensical
that even liberals adopt some of them as core for existence.

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posted April 16, 2009 at 5:51 pm

Your Name,
Unless you are a homosexual it’s impossible for you to know if what homosexuals feel is just lust. We who live in the real world and not the life-avoidance and escapist world of Christianity go by the scientific reasons for homosexuality, not the biblical ones. Leave it to your religion to make up a fantastic excuse for something that has a simple naturalistic explanation to it. The biblical reason for homosexuality is no less absurd or false than the biblical reason for death. That a woman was fooled into eating from a magical tree by a friendly talking animal is the reason people die is just as insane as your claim that homosexuals demand everyone adopt their lifestyle.

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posted April 17, 2009 at 2:09 am

1. Marriage was GOD’S idea – Genesis 2:18-24
2. GOD forbids man to lie with another man as one lies with a woman –
Leviticus 18: 22 Romans 1:26-27
3. Marriage is a sacred vow between one man and one woman with GOD’S
Blessing. Ephesians 5:23-32
These are GOD’S words , marriage between two men or two women
can not be with GOD’S blessing because HE forbids it. It is
written plain as day.

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posted April 17, 2009 at 1:37 pm

Wait a steady second here: you, Rev. Barry, are in fact a reverend, and you hope that Dobson fails? You hope that a man who, as Jesus does, stands up for the innocent, or the unborn rather, fails at his endeavor? I mean, I don’t want to speculate, but are you hoping that those who want to live a Christ life existence fail, as well? Jesus may have said in the Book of Matthew to render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s and unto God what is God’s, but I do not think Jesus’ intention for what was to be rendered be the life of a child unborn. You may want to defer to scientists who have speculations about when a life begins, but nevertheless, that seed inside the belly of a woman does not grow into a tree, or a table, or a squirrel; no, it is the begining of a human life. You do realize that you are advocating the prevention of life? I am sorry, but what Church do you preside over? Is it Unitarian? How can you be so inhumane in your outlook on the begining of a gift of God to us, being life? I will pray for you, I may even fast on your behalf…

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posted April 17, 2009 at 1:42 pm

YourName –
I get where you are coming from, I really do, and I even agree with your sentiment on the issue, however, the 7 deadly sins are a creation by staunch Catholic clergymen in or around the 5th/6th century in Europe. It is never formaly mentioned IN the Bible.

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posted April 17, 2009 at 10:39 pm

Homossexuality is an act and not an attribute.
It would be more fitting to say people “do” gay instead of people “are” gay. In the case that they have assumed a preference a lifestyle then it would be a common phrase to call someone gay because of the consistancy in their chice of same sex partners however
The attraction is an intagiable personal interest.
The question will be…
What about guys who are born feminine and what about girls who are born tom-boys…
That arguments cancel’s itself out due to the gaybooys who are masculine and lesbians who are fem! Personality traits are not sign of this so called gay…
It is sad that the bad churches of the world chose to make homosexuality THEE SIN! To mkae people who have same sex desires feel like they are more prone for hell than other sinners! actually they down right say Gays are going straight to hell!!! This is a false statement made by false teachers!
We are all sinners and no one sin is more excuseable than the other but when you argue that God is wrong then it makes it a wholenutha’ issue!
God is perfect and we are not so when God says something is wrong do not be offended because this perfect God still loves you and came down to pay for ALL OF OUR imperfections..
You may not know why you are more attracted to one thing than the other but at the end of the day attraction shrivles up and dies and the sign that attraction wasn’t all it was cracked up to be will sink in when you are old or when you are cheated on and the other person doesn’t look half as good as you!!! or when fall in and out enough to know what love isn’t…..
Regardless God says it is incorrect… He paid for the correction
He loves you and your heart and don’t let anyone tell you God doesn’t love you because of a choice you are making!!!!
Don’t tell God what he made you! He knows what he made you and he made you with free will to do what ever you want..
DO you want to have a relationship with him?

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posted April 20, 2009 at 7:43 am

I am not sure it is possible to have a productive discussion between Christians when one side claims that those of us who are Christian and born gay are neither.
These endless attacks on homosexuals and transgendered are not based on what God wants of us, they are a purely cultural phenomenon.
Take a position, any position and, as long as it will keep the conservatives in power, the fundamentalist Christians will cherry-pick the Bible to “prove” it is God willed.
Even torture under Bush is now being excused as “not expressly forbidden by Jesus, thus allowed” by the fundamentalists over on Crunchy-Con. That’s a bit rich even for Rod.
These are the same people who say nary a word about divorce and remarriage (on which Jesus spoke rather clearly) yet will use a vague reference to sexual decadence as part of a religious cult to justify denying me human rights.
It’s hopeless. Soon, our rights will be recognized. But the hatred and the scorched earth policy of the fundamentalist Christians has left many, many of my generation and those who will yet come convinced that being a Christian means supporting torture, hating homosexuals and turning a blind eye to the rape and beating of transgendered.
Good job, you Christians on the right. When God points out to you all the souls who were lost because you drove them away, what will your answer be? Oh, right, it says so right here in the Bible…but some are lost, anyway. So that makes it OK.

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posted April 20, 2009 at 5:34 pm

So then what of every other preference?
Was everyone born with a preference?
Don’t be so quick to assume that I am say you are NOT Christian…
Be fast to know I AM SAYING you were not born with a preference.
Even within the gay lifestyle there are more definitive preferences.
Tops, bottoms, racial preferences, Bears, twinks, Butch queens, Flippers, Drag, TS’s and the list goes on!
What then determines whether you’ll be a top or a bottom?
Are you born a top? Are you born a Bear.. what if a Bear loses weight.. does he revert back to a twink? or is it that we are all born with a gene that determines our charachteristics?
If so then why does your accent depend on place of birth..
Why are there masculine gays and feminine lesbians?
What then of the straight white man who (sexually) ONLY likes Fat Black Women???
Was he born that way?
As a Christian you should know that the Bible does not teach hate and because a particular party will use the power of the word of God for selfish and evil reasons as Jesus said the “Wolves in Sheeps clothing” would.. it doesn’t mean that they are Christian or that real Christians stand by such actions!

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Your Name

posted September 15, 2009 at 4:44 pm

“What then of the straight white man who (sexually) ONLY likes Fat Black Women???
Was he born that way?”
He was born attracted to the opposite sex, clearly. That is his orientation. The “fat black women” part is the preference. I’m pretty sure that he would not naturally be attracted to fat black men, if he is actually a heterosexual.
So much ignorance, so little bandwidth.

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posted September 15, 2009 at 10:11 pm

Bible scholars are in almost total agreement that the Apostle Paul was gay. How ironic that a religion founded by a homosexual, whose priesthood is gay and whose laity has a much higher incidence of homosexuality than in the rest of the general public can be so anti-homosexual? What a joke!

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N. Lindzee Lindholm

posted November 21, 2009 at 9:23 pm

I am thankful for Dr. Dobson and the Focus on the Family ministry, and the outstanding impact they have had against homosexual marriages and abortion. Keep up the good work!

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Grumpy Old Person

posted August 25, 2010 at 10:42 am

Let’s Focus on YOUOR “fambly” hasn’t been that successful, considering same-sex marriages are legal in 5 (soon to be 6) States and D.C. and are recognized in 3 other States, and, considering abortion is still legal in ALL of the U.S.
Why are the ‘religious’ right so blatantly delusional?

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