Lynn v. Sekulow

Lynn v. Sekulow


DISCRIMINATION ONE: MEET DISCRIMINATION TWO

posted by Rev. Barry W. Lynn

I know you are happy about the verdict in the Teen Challenge case.  Frankly, I have never been convinced this case was really about religious discrimination.  It always seemed to me to be one more sad example of the NIMBY principle (as in “NOT IN MY BACK YARD”) often applied by communities to the location of any kind of facilities for ex-offenders or substance abusers.

The jury verdict though does point out that there are real costs to violating the rights of others. Americans United wins a lot of cases and we sometimes receive attorneys’ fees when courts find that our clients’ civil rights have been violated.  Indeed, quite appropriately, the Civil Rights Act provides for such awards, in addition to the return of court costs.  Believe it or not, however, some members of Congress have actually proposed that such awards not be permitted in religious liberty cases.  They were upset because we or the ACLU (or both of us) prevailed in cases like the Dover, Pennsylvania “intelligent design” case a few years back.  Please assure me that you will let those members of Congress (all alleged conservatives) know that it is important to teach any and all government entities that violate fundamental rights that the piper will come to collect. OK?
Now, onto another form of discrimination and its close cousin, racism.  I’m sure by now that you have heard of an ugly incident that occurred at this weekend’s Family Research Council’s “Values Voter” Conference in Washington.  As reported by Christianity Today‘s Sarah Pulliam, an officially sanctioned vendor at the conference was selling boxes of “Obama Waffles”.
These boxes contained an offensive caricature of Obama on the cover and then added insult to injury by including a second drawing of Obama in Muslim-like headgear with the message “Point toward Mecca for tastier waffles”.  Several atheists attending the conference started sending reporters (some with camera crews) to the booth, eventually prompting FRC bigwigs to shut it down. FRC spokespersons lamely attempted to explain that they just couldn’t possibly have known what everybody was selling.  Please.  Spare me.
The vendor himself told the press the “waffle boxes” were “selling like hotcakes” (very funny).  Wouldn’t you think that the FRC would be a little “inquisitive” about any product with a picture of a candidate they know most attendees don’t like on it?  After all, this was the product to lure people to the booth.  This was not some passage in a 300 page book which happened to be on sale at the back of an exhibit.
I had suggested about a week ago that the McCain-Palin team should skip this event.  They did.  I said one reason to do was the often bizarre things which are said and done at these conferences.  I’m sure that the Republican candidates didn’t make their decision based on my blog.  I’m also sure that the FRC is really angry that neither one of them showed up, although they put up a good front on that one too.
Here’s the rub, Jay.  If any group is going to have the hubris to announce that it is holding THE event for voters with “values”, it had better be purer than the driven snow itself.  The snow was looking a little discolored again this year.


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Rick Wingrove

posted September 14, 2008 at 7:23 pm


The name of the product is Obama Waffles. The only product they sell is Obama Waffles. Anyone approaching the booth was greeted by a 4 or 5 foot tall blowup of the Obama Waffles. Obama Waffles was on sale for a couple of days before being “discovered”.
About what, exactly, was the FRC confused or unaware? And at what point did this offense become embarrassing?
The answer is that they were fine with it, even having a good bit of fun with it, until we spotted it and brought it to the attention of the press. There are now photos on some blogs of Lou Dobbs holding a box, smiling and saying that his wife will enjoy it. I brought this issue directly to the attention of Gary Bauers who chose to be hostile to atheists while refusing to condemn the purveyors of Obama Waffles.
The FRC is now scrambling to salvage some face from this fiasco, even including a condemnation by, yes, Gary Bauers.
Too little and way too late.



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Proud LIBERAL American

posted September 14, 2008 at 8:44 pm


“I brought this issue directly to the attention of Gary Bauers who chose to be hostile to atheists while refusing to condemn the purveyors of Obama Waffles.”
This should not surprise you. Bauer is typical of today’s conservative Christian, who believes that sin is what other folks do. As long as they are playing “useful idiot” for the GOP, they will never acknowledge wrongdoing.
Let’s see if Mr. Sekulow has the guts to unequivocally distance himself from this, or if he tries to justify it by pointing to the sins of some other group and saying that “they are worse.”



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mark

posted September 14, 2008 at 11:58 pm


If you Republicans think this isn’t an issue that will win Obama MASSIVE turnout, and that some folks on the Left are just too sensitive…GO SELL BOXES of this demeaning garbage on every street corner in America until the election….do that honey.
Especially sell them in front of Conservative African American Churches in Ohio and North Carolina, and Florida, and Missouri.
See you LOSERS Nov 5th, when you are so THUMPED you can’t walk straight.



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Scruffy

posted September 15, 2008 at 1:24 am


Why is anybody surprised at the FRC letting a little slander get in the way of the truth? Doesn’t anybody realize that FRC is nothing more than a GOP PAC of lies?
If Jesus Christ came down and ran for President on the Democratic ticket (Not that I’m saying He would run for any office) they would call Him a heretic and possessed just like the Pharisees 2000 years ago.
The Devil wears a RED robe when he wants to drive Christians form the Love of Christian Charity. He is very happy when “Christians” lie and slander in the “Name of Righteousness”



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Mary-Lee

posted September 15, 2008 at 4:10 pm


Some “values.” Lying and then making excuses for the lies. Some Christians really are a piece of work.



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N. Lindzee Lindholm

posted September 1, 2009 at 1:41 am


How do you know, in fact, that the administrators were lying? Maybe the representative lied about what they were selling. How many vendors were there at the event? 100? 500? The number certainly gives insight as to whether or not one would be able to screen all the products the vendors were selling.
If it was my event, even though I am a conservative, I would not have allowed the product to be sold because selling these seems distasteful at a “Values Voter” summit. The issues should be the target, not what seemed to be one’s religion. But hey, no one asked me.



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