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Fantastic quote:
“Joy is the hardest thing, always, for any artist, for any writer, for any photographer,” Bono says. “It’s the hardest thing to capture because it’s impossible to contrive, whereas despair — you can have a good go at despair.”



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Thinker

posted January 30, 2008 at 5:50 pm


Been listening to Leonard Cohen today – for someone my age – he was my Bono.
“Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack in everything
That’s how the light gets in.



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Brian Horan

posted January 30, 2008 at 6:01 pm


Here’s my favorite Bono lyrics that could refer to folks like James Dobson, George W. Bush, Jerry Fallwell, Pat Robertson, Ted Haggard, etc. & their efforts to use Jesus for political purposes:
‘Jesus never let me down,
You know Jesus used to show me the score,
Then they put Jesus in show business,
Now it’s hard to get in the door…’
‘If God Will Send His Angels’ from CD ‘POP’ circa 1997



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Donny

posted January 30, 2008 at 9:18 pm


Brian,
Please prove in what way James Dobson and Jerry Fawlell failed the Gospel of Christ Jesus? Where they erred in representing the Christian community and culture appropraitly and in honesty and truth?
Robertson? Can’t promote the execution of someone, even as loathsome and evil as Hugo Chavez. Interesting that Chavez is as bad as Robertson predicted. But still, snipers and the Gospel don’t mix.
Haggard? Homosexuality and the Christian life are not compatible. Many, many places in the New Testament agrees with that. Please don’t hesitate to ask me where.
And George Bush? Where has he actually proclaimed anything that contradicts the Gospel, or the Apostles? His actions against Saddam Hussein and the usual muderous Muslim suspects, was implemented by a Secular President acting as Commander In Chief of the military forces of the United States of America. And please notice that th mission against Saddam was completely accomplished. “By the way.”
And I’m sure you just forgot to mention heretics like Jim Wallis that sit firmly in the Progressive camp, esposing theology that contradicts the Gospel and Apostolic teachings. You did “just forget” didn’t you?
I’ll wait patiently for you apologetic expose on Dobson and Falwell’s errors. And Bush’s too. I know I have a long wait. I’ve asked many Lefties to present evidence against Dobson and all I got was one hearsay link.



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Donny

posted January 30, 2008 at 9:21 pm


If Christians didn’t suffer so much discrimination, Peter Furler would be one of the biggest stars on earth. Easily equal to that of Bono.



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Jillian

posted January 31, 2008 at 12:29 am


Please prove in what way James Dobson and Jerry Falwell failed the Gospel of Christ Jesus? Where they erred in representing the Christian community and culture appropriately and in honesty and truth?
Have you ever heard of the Law of Love, or the Sermon on the Mount?



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canucklehead

posted January 31, 2008 at 12:54 am


Donny – what was Christian about George Bush recently over kissing up to the Saudis? Gee, if I remember right, 15 out of the 19 9-11 bombers were Saudis…and Bush goes after Iraq? Bush has his hand so far into the cookie jar it’s preposterous to call anything he says or does Christian.
A friend of mine who attended Liberty U has frequently informed me of blatant falsehoods that Falwell would commit in word and deed in the course of his tenure at LU. One I recall, when some event on campus was getting TV coverage and the weather turned out horrible, Falwell insisted students dress like it was summery, waited for the sun to crack thru briefly then ordered the freezing students to crowd around while he boomed into the microphone…”It’s a beautiful day here in Lynchburg…” That is just one small example of numerous stories Myron has related about Falwell’s lack of credibility in day-to-day matters that earned him the disrespect of many at LU. Just like Dobson, Bush, et al, he had an agenda to protect and a few little shortcuts here or there were all in a day’s work.
As for Dobson, let’s just say that I know people on the inside there whose stories would curl your nostril hairs. Sadly, given your hangup with sex, you’re looking for a Jim Bakker or Jimmy Swaggert or Ted Haggard story equivalent on Falwell and Dobson before you’ll believe they aren’t modern day infallible apostles. That’s pathetically myopic.



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Anonymous

posted January 31, 2008 at 6:00 am


“Have you ever heard of the Law of Love, or the Sermon on the Mount?”
Yes, we have. But you also have to remember that Jesus said He came not to abolish the law, but to fulfill it (Matthew 5:17). The Old testament didn’t get tossed aside with the introduction of the Gospel. Mosaic law is still firmly in place.
What Jesus did is remind the Pharisees of the spirit in which the law was given. He never cancelled it out. Pope Benedict’s book “Jesus of Nazareth” goes into this a great deal. If you get the chance, give it a read; it’s a great book.



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maxcat06

posted January 31, 2008 at 6:02 am


Donny, if you had ever taken the time to really learn his views, you’d find that Bono might be one of the most authentic Christians around.



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Brian Horan

posted January 31, 2008 at 6:48 am


Donny,
You’re a funny guy. But I like you. I really do.



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Donny (Psalm 51, me too)

posted January 31, 2008 at 7:11 am


canucklehead,
Re-read your own post. It is pathetically myopic on substance. I’ve listed scriptures and actual actions to prove the error of Jim Wallis and any “progressive” theologian. That is to say, I let the Apostles written statements on Christian life do the talking not me on what is literall happening right now. Dobson does not alter or abolish the Gospel for political and social movements that are anti-Christian. His views on “family is supported by every Apostle in the New Testament. Progressives have support on war and that’s it. (I wish they would demand of Muslims the way they scream at Christians.) That is what a Christian should do, yet Wallis and his Leftist groups will only value the words that will implement their humanism in effect. Falwell was a man. Your hearsay from some person attending Liberty wouldn’t make it pass a first-year detectives’ desk for evidence of wrongdoing. And certainly he did not alter or erase scripture. The man was solid on his apologia.
Max, I respect Bono. His New Testament does not have black marker ink striking out of the Gospel what irritates him. I have never challenged Bono’s walk. If he wants to alter marriage against the clear and immutable teachings of Christ Jesus and His Apostles, then I will reject his leadership as a Christian. Mostly he presents a “just a famius guy” tact. If families were actually Christian in makeup, there wouldn’t be the poverty and violence he wants to erradicate.
And anonymous, Jesus had no “Old Testament” right to let the adulterous woman (or her male partner) off the hook when literally proven to have committed adultery. He certainly convinced her of sin and did the “Christian thing” and forgave her sins. What is apocalyptically glaring in people today, is their lack of experience WITH scripture.
Jillian, “love” from the Progressive/Liberal position seems to always be eros and nothing about agape. The law of Love has little to do with encouraging people to engage in promiscuity and sodomy. The “Red Letters” of the Gospel say more against Liberal and Progressive ideology than anything I could come up with. But somehow Wallis and his gang manage to pervert even the very words of Jesus.
More people have died from licentiousness, sexual perversion and promiscuity, since 1776, than all the wars Americans have ever fought in. Liberal theology aims to find excuses for sins and eliminates guilt, confession, repentance and forgiveness. That is anti-Christ without doubt “IF” you desire to read the Gospels and the Apostles letters to fellow Christians. Liberal/Progressive ideology ignores words and deeds that further harm people. Look at what Satan would invent as a religion, and you see, hear and feel Progressive and Liberal views on life. Start with slaughtering the unborn with a “law” to protect that. Go on to sexual licentiousness that has literally put millions of names to its cause. Then head to forcing the money from families with perverse taxes that implement further evil programs on the pooulace. Then go to LITERALLY expunging Gospel truth from OUT OF the Christian Church, and you have what Liberal and Progressive actions literally do. It’s bad enough to have people doing liberal and progressive behaviors, but they go on to spread that wrong-doing IN the Church. I wish pagans were as honest as the Apostles were.



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Donny (Psalm 51, me too)

posted January 31, 2008 at 8:24 am


Oops, my rapid hunt and peck left a big word exchange in this text:
“He certainly convinced her of sin and did the ‘Christian thing’ and forgave her sins. What is apocalyptically glaring in people today, is their lack of experience WITH scripture.”
Although Jesus didn’t have to “convince” this woman of her sin (the crowd of hypocrites did a good job of that), He certainly “convicted” her AS an adulterer and did the right thing (of course) by telling her to stop having liberal sexual practices from that point on.
“Go and sin no more.”
Can you imagine how many people would grow up morally sound, not get AIDS and other STD’s or have “unwanted” pregnancies if they just followed the directives of Christ Jesus? Marriage wouldn’t be altered, redefined and discarded so easily, children would not suffer being murdered in the womb “LEGALLY” and of course, tax collectors would repent and leave good people alone. Families (mothers and fathers and their children) could actually relax for a change. Wow, Jesus versus American-Democrat politics, proven in five words. Who wudda thunk it?
But anyway . . .



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Marcia Erickson

posted January 31, 2008 at 10:24 am


From a photographers perspective who works in Haiti…this quote hits home!
Hope all is well with you David!



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Larry Parker

posted January 31, 2008 at 3:03 pm


Donny:
A polite hint — if you’re going to spend your time attacking the blogmaster’s hero, don’t be surprised if you incur the blogmaster’s wrath.
On point:
Of course Bono is right. And Kay Redfield Jamison has identified why — because the artist’s temperament overlaps so closely (not perfectly, but closely) with the depressive temperament.
I try to explain to folks (I think everyone here knows I have BD) — writing for me is not just a “passion.” It’s more like I can’t NOT write, if that makes any sense.



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canucklehead

posted January 31, 2008 at 4:04 pm


Donny – of course, of course. I forgot that your Jesus and your Apostles taught a hierarchy of spirituality where deceit is deceit ONLY if it can make it past an American detective’s desk. None of this kindergarten “let your yea be yea, and your nay be nay” stuff for the Jesus and the apostles that you, Donny, continually and without apology, endeavor to recreate on these blogs in your own amply flawed image.
Do you really think I didn’t anticipate what the nature of your responses would be – “oh, that’s only hearsay, it’s not nightly news worthy type of sin, after all, they’re only manufacturing falsehood to people who actually know them and work for them – what’s so bad about that? – it’s not a **** or ***** sin.” As I said in my initial post, I knew such trivial oversights on the part of Falwell and Dobson wouldn’t rank in your homosexual/abortion obsessed world where there are U.S. No. 1 Grade A and Grade B sins. My bad for thinking you might actually “get it” that the Scripture is actually void of any ranking of sins that is so popular in American evangelicalism in general and your world in particular.
Ah yes, the myopic gospel according to Donny triumphs once again – in his own mind, at least, which, for him, is probably what it’s all about.



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Anonymous

posted January 31, 2008 at 5:02 pm


Actually joy is one of the easiest emotions to convey in poetry. Feel it, really feel it, get out of the way, and let the words flow.
The truly interesting thing about joy, is that in its most intense forms there is an ineffable quality. Words become containers conveying joy. They burst to impart their potent cargo to the listener. Like dancing, to do it well, music propels the dancer without effort or thought. It is a matter of surrender to the emotion which is to us as a master musician’s breath is to a flute. We become the instrument, resonating perfectly, radiant and light. It is so easy, all that is required is that “i” do nothing.



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PatientWitness

posted January 31, 2008 at 5:38 pm


I’m usually a pretty happy guy, but I did notice that the greatest output of my paintings occurred when I was going through some intense personal issues several years ago. Few of these works were ever intended for public viewing but it seems I had a large outpouring of feeling then.



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canucklehead

posted January 31, 2008 at 7:15 pm


I apologize that on a posting on joy I got sidetracked onto Donny’s numerous issues. Obviously I need to learn a few things about allowing other’s to steal my joy.



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Doug

posted February 1, 2008 at 1:15 pm


Freude, schöner Götterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium!
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische, Dein Heiligtum.
Deine Zauber binden wieder,
Was die Mode streng geteilt,
(1785 version: Was der Mode Schwert getheilt)
Alle Menschen werden Brüder,
(1785 version: Bettler werden Fürstenbrüder)
Wo Dein sanfter Flügel weilt.
Chor.
Seid umschlungen, Millionen!
Diesen Kuß der ganzen Welt!
Brüder, überm Sternenzelt
Muß ein lieber Vater wohnen!
Wem der große Wurf gelungen,
Eines Freundes Freund zu sein,
Wer ein holdes Weib errungen,
Mische seinen Jubel ein!
Ja, wer auch nur eine Seele
Sein nennt auf dem Erdenrund!
Und wer’s nie gekonnt, der stehle
Weinend sich aus diesem Bund!
Chor.
Was den großen Ring bewohnet,
Huldige der Sympathie!
Zu den Sternen leitet sie,
Wo der Unbekannte thronet.
Freude trinken alle Wesen
An den Brüsten der Natur;
Alle Guten, alle Bösen
Folgen ihrer Rosenspur.
Küsse gab sie uns und Reben,
Einen Freund, geprüft im Tod;
Wollust ward dem Wurm gegeben,
Und der Cherub steht vor Gott.
Chor.
Ihr stürzt nieder, Millionen?
Ahnest du den Schöpfer, Welt?
Such’ ihn überm Sternenzelt!
Über Sternen muß er wohnen.
Freude heißt die starke Feder
In der ewigen Natur.
Freude, Freude treibt die Räder
In der Großen Weltenuhr.
Blumen lockt sie aus den Keimen,
Sonnen aus dem Firmament,
Sphären rollt sie in den Räumen,
Die des Sehers Rohr nicht kennt.
Chor.
Froh, wie seine Sonnen fliegen
Durch des Himmels prächt’gen Plan,
Laufet, Brüder, eure Bahn,
Freudig, wie ein Held zum Siegen.
Aus der Wahrheit Feuerspiegel
Lächelt sie den Forscher an.
Zu der Tugend steilem Hügel
Leitet sie des Dulders Bahn.
Auf des Glaubens Sonnenberge
Sieht man ihre Fahnen wehn,
Durch den Riß gesprengter Särge
Sie im Chor der Engel stehn.
Chor.
Duldet mutig, Millionen!
Duldet für die beßre Welt!
Droben überm Sternzelt
Wird ein großer Gott belohnen.
Göttern kann man nicht vergelten;
Schön ist’s, ihnen gleich zu sein.
Gram und Armut soll sich melden,
Mit den Frohen sich erfreun.
Groll und Rache sei vergessen,
Unserm Todfeind sei verziehn,
Keine Tränen soll ihn pressen,
Keine Reue nage ihn.
Chor.
Unser Schuldbuch sei vernichtet!
Ausgesöhnt die ganze Welt!
Brüder, überm Sternenzelt
Richtet Gott, wie wir gerichtet.
Freude sprudelt in Pokalen,
In der Traube goldnem Blut
Trinken Sanftmut Kannibalen,
Die Verzweiflung Heldenmut–
Brüder, fliegt von euren Sitzen,
Wenn der volle Römer kreist,
Laßt den Schaum zum Himmel spritzen:
Dieses Glas dem guten Geist.
Chor.
Den der Sterne Wirbel loben,
Den des Seraphs Hymne preist,
Dieses Glas dem guten Geist
Überm Sternenzelt dort oben!
Festen Mut in schwerem Leiden,
Hilfe, wo die Unschuld weint,
Ewigkeit geschwornen Eiden,
Wahrheit gegen Freund und Feind,
Männerstolz vor Königsthronen, –
Brüder, gält’ es Gut und Blut–
Dem Verdienste seine Kronen,
Untergang der Lügenbrut!
Chor.
Schließt den heil’gen Zirkel dichter,
Schwört bei diesem goldnen Wein:
Dem Gelübde treu zu sein,
Schwört es bei dem Sternenrichter!
-Friedrich Schiller
Joy! Beautiful divine spark,
Daughter of Elysium!
We enter, fire-drunk,
Heavenly one, your shrine.
Your magic reunites
What custom has strictly parted.
All men become brothers
Beneath your gentle wing.



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Larry Parker

posted February 2, 2008 at 12:23 am


I should, of course, have said the blogmaster’s SECOND favorite hero.
David is an enormously religious man and obviously we know who his favorite Hero is. (And probably Bono’s as well.)



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Psalm 51, me too

posted February 3, 2008 at 7:50 am


Sorry canucklehead, for ruining a bit of your time here. You lash out at Christians and I have a very hard time not giving it back to you. I always agree with the assessment that I am a flawed individual. I just don’t desire to alter Biblical text to make my flaws dissapper. BUT, if “certain kinds of people” truly believed in the “nay is nay and the yea is yea” in the Christian treatise known as the New Testament, there would be no one daring to call themself a Christian and promoting the two abominations of which I constantly mention, those two abominations wouldn’t be seen as being in any way supportable “by” Christians precisely by the honesty you mention. I just hold to the truth written about “in” the New Testament. In that way, you can see that a man like Dobson and Falesll are not the ones failing those words. I do believe that far more aplogies for mishandling the Gospel are needed from “the Left” and those that push it. You “should be” ashamed, at falsely accusing Dobson and Falwell exclusively with secular media opinions, but I’ve come to expect nothing less of the typical hack job on Christians from those in your camp.
In keeping with honesty, I’ll apologize for interjecting a position that took you and anyone else off of the beauty that Bono does represent so well. But not for the valid substance of which I present, but of the emotionalism of my detractors.
Donny



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canucklehead

posted February 3, 2008 at 11:33 pm


“You “should be” ashamed, at falsely accusing Dobson and Falwell exclusively with secular media opinions, but I’ve come to expect nothing less of the typical hack job on Christians from those in your camp” Donny
I’m not really sure what you’re talking about, Donny, as my sources for what I mentioned in previous posts (whom I am obligated to protect) were/are both “insiders” = one a former LU student and the other still in a prominent position there at the Dobson shrine in Colorado Springs.
Further, if I recall correctly, in “Tempting Faith” David graciously excused Falwell’s bizarre behavior at the post 9-11 service at the National Cathedral.
Your consistent affinity for the strict dualism that persists in your postings is at variance with reality as most of us experience it. I can appreciate, from what you make passing reference to about your tough experiences in life, that you feel strongly about the views held by those of us less sympathetic to right-wing dogma. Nonetheless, your blind allegiance to that side of the spectrum given the fools that American evangelicals were shown to be for their naive allegiance to the Bush-Cheney-Rove conspiracy, is curious, to say the least.
I reiterate that your affinity for a hierarchy of sinful behavior in the lives of Christian public figures is at variance with the New Testament you purport to so rigorously defend. Ironically, in that regard, you’re more in conformity with the very liberal media you claim to disdain.



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