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Giuliani’s bad week

Rudy has had a bad, bad week. There was the story alleging misuse of expenses while he was mayor. There was the unfortunate exchange with Romney to begin the debate. There was the campaign’s rather week rebuttal to the Politico story. And now there is this story out today:

In almost every appearance as he campaigns for the Republican presidential nomination, Rudolph W. Giuliani cites a fusillade of statistics and facts to make his arguments about his successes in running New York City and the merits of his views.Discussing his crime-fighting success as mayor, Mr. Giuliani told a television interviewer that New York was “the only city in America that has reduced crime every single year since 1994.” In New Hampshire this week, he told a public forum that when he became mayor in 1994, New York “had been averaging like 1,800, 1,900 murders for almost 30 years.” When a recent Republican debate turned to the question of fiscal responsibility, he boasted that “under me, spending went down by 7 percent.”All of these statements are incomplete, exaggerated or just plain wrong. And while, to be sure, all candidates use misleading statistics from time to time, Mr. Giuliani has made statistics a central part of his candidacy as he campaigns on his record.


Ooops. The next week will tell us a lot about Giuliani. Will he come through this period as a statesman – as the man the world admired after 9/11? Will he have his own Howard Dean moment? I think Giuliani is unraveling. I think details of his affair with Judith Nathan while he was mayor will emerge and a lot of Republicans will begin to wonder how, exactly, his behavior differed from Bill Clinton’s when he was in office. Huckabee’s rise puts Giuliani’s character into even sharper focus because Huckabee is seen as a straight shooter. And to the degree that he isn’t, he knows the Christian language of forgiveness and repentance and he will use it – with great efficacy. We’ll see.

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posted November 30, 2007 at 9:53 am

You kind of knew this was coming, didn’t you? Giuliani’s behavior differs from Clinton’s in that Clinton stayed married.

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posted November 30, 2007 at 10:01 am

Giuliani’s behavior differs from Clinton’s – Guiliani apparently married the Paula Jones character. Sorry, that was too easy. Both have huge issues with sexual morality. I have never quite figured out why people have blamed Hilary for staying with Bill. Something wrong with working through a difficult issue in your marriage?
I don’t particularly like her, but I have to admire the work they did to save their marriage.

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Phil DeBrier

posted November 30, 2007 at 11:33 am

Rudy is a one trick pony (9/11) just as Bush Sr. was running against Clinton the First (Desert Storm). If the Republican candidates won’t refresh the American memory that Guiliani was a unliked lame duck on September 10th, 2001 you know whoever the Democratic candidate is will have no problem talking about Mayor Rudy’s baggage. In terms of how he ran NY, I can’t help but feel that in terms of cronyism, a Guiliani presidency won’t look a lot different then W’s has.

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posted November 30, 2007 at 12:47 pm

A Giuliani presidency would be like W’s on steroids. He’d be worse than Bush on pretty much any issue.
What I can’t understand is the conservative support for Rudy. Everything about him seems to be anathema to the evangelical and social conservative crowds in the GOP. What on earth do Giuliani supporters see in this guy? Seriously. I don’t get it.

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Elvis Elvisberg

posted November 30, 2007 at 1:01 pm

The difference between Bush Sr. running on Desert Storm and Giuliani running on 9/11 is that Bush Sr. actually had an accomplishment to run on.
Giuliani gave very good speeches and provided a reassuring presence– which were very important at the time.
But other than that, he had made a very bad decision as to where to locate the terrorism response center, and he had failed to ensure that the police and firemen could communicate with each other. That’s why so many more firemen died than police– the firemen never got the message that the buildings were coming down.
Also, he wants to bomb Iran.
So, on policy, experience, and character, Rudy fails.
As a Democrat, I want to see the GOP nominate him.
I think Huckabee is the GOP’s best candidate. He’s a likeable guy, and an authentic conservative. I will never get why the money men in the GOP lined up behind the flip-flopping android from Massachusetts and the unlikeable, unqualified, scandal-ridden former New York mayor.

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posted November 30, 2007 at 1:14 pm

I think Huckabee is the GOP’s best candidate. He’s a likeable guy, and an authentic conservative. I will never get why the money men in the GOP lined up behind the flip-flopping android from Massachusetts and the unlikeable, unqualified, scandal-ridden former New York mayor.
Perhaps I’m just becoming cynical, but I think it has to do with who is the most easily controlled. Guilianai, from what I’ve seen and read, can be controlled through both money and flattery. I think that’s true to a lesser extent with Romney. And both seem to court only the wealthy and the powerful.
Huckabee, on the other hand, will buck his party on fiscal issues. He actually seems to care about the poor, the middle class – you know, the people who actually elect him. More than the other two, he comes across as a leader who understand what it means to be a public servant. And most of all, because of his sincere beliefs, he is not easily controllable. I mean, he might actually make a decision that would hurt him politically in order to do the right thing.
There are things I don’t agree with Huckabee on, but I would trust him not to sell out the little guy (and gal).

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Larry Parker

posted November 30, 2007 at 1:44 pm

Not sure about your diagnosis, David, although the illness is obvious.
It may just be that Republican primary voters have decided en masse that they no longer can tolerate his moderation on social issues just because he was the (perhaps …) hero of 9/11. I mean, c’mon, it isn’t like they haven’t known, at least generally, about his personal foibles before …

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posted November 30, 2007 at 2:01 pm

Rudy’s a thug, a bully, a short-tempered strongarm guy, an enforcer. He lives and dies by cronyism. He has tons and tons of dirty laundry, and I’m just sure it’s largely being held back by the NY Dems in the hope he gets the GOP nomination. There is no telling how gross it could get,(think recordings), and the Dem machine in NYC are just the guys to know how to deploy it. Lotta folks in the Big Apple with scores to settle.
So that would be disgusting.
Let’s hope for the sake of the *ahem* tone of the public discussion that Rudy just fades away.
But Huckabee has that Goldwater thing happening, you know? The idealistic choice, that seems plausible enough, and then gets waxed in the general election.
And of course Mitt is running for Anti-Christ as well, so that creates a problem.
Head scratching time for the GOP insiders, I’d say.

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posted December 2, 2007 at 11:33 am

The GOP has produced a lot of empty suits in these past few years. However, I am sure that there are people of integrity, decency, and intelligence who still exist within the GOP framework. It’s gonna be a long long time before they’re allowed out. We’re being entertained by the burlesque, circus types right now.
Come on down, ladies and gentlemen
More torture than you can imagine
We’re gonna double the size of Guantanamo
Watch this – your taxes –
Under this one, or this one – how about here under war profiteers
And now fellow Ozians – how about them illegal Aliens – we’ll get em, we’ll drive em out, trust us
There are no poor people in Oz
Oopps, got my pretend countries all mixed up.
True American conservatives won’t be taken in by such nonsense, but there is a mob out there ready to be gathered – uneducated, poor, fairly racist – and they are gathered by such fears and nonsense.
Dems are little better
Come see how we’ll reform health care and it won’t cost you a dime
it’s circus time ladies and gentlemen and let me introduce our Master of Ceremonies

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posted December 3, 2007 at 1:10 pm

Wait ’til Huckabee gets to the top of the polls and you will find out all about his issues from his fellow Republics. So far,he’s still getting the free ride the “liberal media” give all Republics.

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posted December 4, 2007 at 2:22 pm

Guiliani’s been making a buck with every bad actor in the world with his security firm since 9-11. More to come and unfortunately his affairs, divorces, misuse of tax money, stand for illegal aliens etc will pale in comparison once these dealings start seeing the light of public scrutiny. Being mayor on a single day in history does not change your stripes. How you behave in private is how you behave.

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