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No More Compassion

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I keep wondering why it is that the White House keeps putting up people to respond to me who are not from the White House. Then the realization hits me — there is no one left at the White House who could. Compassionate conservatism is so dead that there is now no one at the White House who can talk about it. 



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Tom Tomberg

posted October 17, 2006 at 9:39 pm


Well, and they often rely on surrogates to go out and bash people. The president is bigger on constructing and refuting straw men than responding to specific critics, right?



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Mary evans

posted October 17, 2006 at 10:01 pm


i laughed when Lesley Stahl gave you the adoring look at your suggestion that Christian conservatives “fast” from voting. None of us are as gullible as the two of you seem to think. No wonder Dems lose elections, they are totally ignorant.



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Bubba

posted October 17, 2006 at 10:05 pm


David, would you mind naming names? Who specifically that the White House is “putting up” to respond to you? Is it not possible that people who are responding to you are doing so in good faith? That they are doing so because they want to of their own accord?



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Mary Jane

posted October 17, 2006 at 10:13 pm


Mary Evans, you may be in for a big surprise come Nov 8th. You Rethugs are on the way out…because of many of Bush’s broken promises. But also for Bush’s destruction of our Constitution!



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A. M.

posted October 17, 2006 at 10:44 pm


I do not know David Kuo, but I met him shortly after he left the White House and I can tell you that he is as honest and as sincere as a human being can be. I lived and worked in D.C. conservative cirles around the same time that David was in the White House and I am so saddened to see leaders of organizations that I used to be involved with reacting with such knee-jerk animosity towards him and his book (which none, I’m sure, have read). Although David focuses his critique on the Faith-Based Intitiative, where he was based, a virtually identical account could be written about the administration’s approach to AIDS in Africa or the blind eye that the U.S. has turned to the human rights abuses committed by various “allies” around the world.I, like David, am a disappointed conservative who happens to cares about the needy and suffering around the world. That doesn’t mean I am drifiting towards liberalism. I hope it means I am drifting towards the heart of Jesus. A.M.



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Lynn Daniel

posted October 17, 2006 at 10:44 pm


I find myself very disillusioned with both religion and politics. Mr. Kuo makes reference to the minister who said they have turned the mission field into the battlefield. This is true. Listen to much of what is being said on the left, right, and middle, all too often in the name of God. Mr. Kuo’s idea of a fast is a good one. Or perhaps as a teenager might say, “chill out.”



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MrEMan

posted October 17, 2006 at 10:52 pm


mary evans, what in the world was your comment about “no wonder dems lose elections” have to do with anything? Perhaps I have missed something, but I’m not aware of David switching parties. Are you implying that just because David has called the Bush administration out on their lies that he must be a Democrat? You need to search your soul, you are quite misguided.



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Dennis Castle

posted October 17, 2006 at 10:57 pm


Of all the self-appointed, holier than thou, sanctimonious, self-righteous, psuedo-pious Pharisees I’ve ever met, you David Kuo take the cake. Are you so arrogant as to assume that you (and only you) have figured out there is a difference between being a Christian and being a Republican and that if you let everyone know (in your breathless tone, like a junior-high girl with a bit of gossip) it would finally make you popular with the cool kids over at moveon.org? Christians should take two-years out of politics? Unless you are being deceitful and manipulative, just whom (and whose agenda) does that leave in charge? That is the real illumination, the real revelation, the real YOU. You were the one placed in authority and you proved to be inefficient and ineffective, and yet you point your judging finger at others. Just in time for the election. If your book and your interviews do what you want them to then every cause that Christians cherish will suffer, the new Democratic Senate will make certain that only a pro-abortion judge will be allowed on the Supreme Court, the new Democratic House will make certain to undermine every effort in the War on Terror, and all of our security will be further moved to the good graces of the UN and the ICC. Hope you have your speech ready when the Democrats use you to headline their impeachment proceedings of the President. You have become a tool for those who hate our country and our faith. Take a bow.



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John Magisano

posted October 17, 2006 at 11:16 pm


Thank you, thank you, thank you Mr. Kuo. As a gay man, a progressive and a Christian minister, I have always been interested dialogue with those who don’t share my views, but over the last eight years, the pool of people willing to reach across the divide has dwindled. I’m sure we disagree on many things, but I find your posts here (I haven’t read the book yet) to be a breath of fresh air. You are open, honest and vulnerable, willing to endure pain as the cost of integrity. Again, thank you.



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Bubba

posted October 17, 2006 at 11:48 pm


Integrity suggests, John, that if he’s going to accuse people of being shills for the Administration, he should name names.



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Tom Pruitt

posted October 18, 2006 at 12:30 am


Mr Kuo is a democrat! It is so obvious! He worked for Sen. Kennedy the Senator with a death count! This is a ploy to supress Conservative Christian turnout. It will not work, we will turn out and we will vote for the GOP!



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David Wentroble

posted October 18, 2006 at 12:54 am


God bless you in your walk with Jesus and letting us all know about your experiences. May your faith in Jesus continue to bless you on your walk.



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Bill O'Reilly

posted October 18, 2006 at 1:08 am


This was all talked about in this book. http://www.amazon.com/Religion-Bush-Vinnie-Vin/dp/1932852344 way back in 2004



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Bobby Billings

posted October 18, 2006 at 1:21 am


David Are you so naive that you don’t think Dem are the same, Look at Harold JR in Memphis, check out some of his political ads, Then check out his record and parties he attend at Playboy, We Christian have the Holy Spirit to help with the good fruit and bad fruit. So we don’t need you to blast the President and choices we make. Please read the following and Please understand I think you have gone over the line. Maybe to the wood shed soon. I have FINALLY got your answer. and it also came from the Bible. Guess what I found this answer 40 years ago. It is Love and forgive your brothers , sisters and your Enemies and God will love you this way. Repent with sincerety and go witness to the lost, bring them to GOD Today, any of you sinners(including me) that cannot do this Today must repent for Gods forgiveness and God will Love you in this way. Thats the fear of God that all of you must have. Your dealing with some serious stuff here. Please lets show the love of God in our walk with God. He will and is dealing with these valid issues all have raised but raising them over and over again will not make him do what he may not choose to do, it also could get you taken to the wood shed as we all know who said that.Adrian Rogers did Please let all this go and TRUST GOD.



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Michael Sanders

posted October 18, 2006 at 1:41 am


This should be an interesting book. The thing that I’ve never under stood is why any Christain would be involed in politics. Voting is a duty as a citizen and should be taken seriously, but politics is not part of Christainty.



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Mary Ellen

posted October 18, 2006 at 2:55 am


Thank you Mr. Kuo. I was wondering what was going on with the Christians. A little sick to my stomach that in jesus’ name they condone an illegal war, torture and the killing of 600,000 innocent civilians (according to the Lancet study)? That’s Christian? I understand the mindset as I was a Pentacostal christian from 14-22. I would have voted for any politician who said he was a Christian in a heartbeat. But if you look at the fruit of the Bush administrations actions – how can that be Christian? As a Christian you are told to look at the fruit and test everything. Thank you Mr. Kuo for telling the truth, and please ignore hysterical people who are posting here. What they fear, I do not know. The truth?



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Susan

posted October 18, 2006 at 4:10 am


To Mr. Castle and others…Many years ago, in the name of civil discourse, those on both sides of the abortion debate informally ageed to refer to one another as pro-choice and pro-life. My guess is that neither side really believes that the other’s nomenclature is accurate. But we need to talk, not scream, at one another. The increasingly common use of the term “pro-abortion” to describe those who support choice is a form of screaming. It is the abortion debate equivalent of the “N” word or the “C” word. It conveys disrespect and raises hackles for no good purpose. There are sincere people of faith on both sides of this issue. Let’s speak to and about one another civilly.



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Norman Martin

posted October 18, 2006 at 5:43 am


I have now read about two-thirds of Mr. Kuo’s book and can tell you he does not let the Democrates off the hook.His book just emphasizes why we do not need the combining of Church and State. Government will always use the Church for its own ends.For God’s sake the the sake of our country read early American history. Baptist, Methodist and other “non-comforming” religous groups had to pay taxes to the various states to pay salary to ministers of the “established” churches.Many Fundamentalist have put their faith in the present administration instead of God.Ask yourself, “Do I want to witness to people so they can turn to Jesus as Savior or do I just want to have power and control over others.?”



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Dennis Castle

posted October 18, 2006 at 7:35 am


Please, Susan, call me anti-abortion and I will bow with a flourish. Death for those who commit the crime of being inconvenient is the vestige of those who think differently than me, and the agenda of those who will benefit the most from Kuo’s book. You don’t have to honor me with the title “pro-life”, because I do not believe that Jessica Lundsford’s killer, who buried the beautiful 9 year old alive after raping her for the weekend, should be allowed to live. But there are those who believe that all victims are collateral damage and the true object of our compassion and the object of our societal largess should be the brute I just described. And those are the people whose political agenda will benefit from Kuo’s book. And if Christians walk away from the voting booth, as Kuo and his adherents (who are more holy than Jesus) insist, then the innocent will suffer and the guilty will flourish. But Heaven forbid we seek to add yeast or salt or light, for Kuo hath added his genius and wisdom: like most uber-Christians I’ve met in my life, they believe that Christianity should be more like a sub-culture (like a zoo critter, safely away from anything but their own tiny world) instead of a counter-culture making a difference. Kuo is wiser than God; we should take our shoes off to read his blog.



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Pedro

posted October 18, 2006 at 9:11 pm


Wow, Dennis. That’s some pretty harsh stuff. FWIW, I think the better analogue, from Susan’s perspective, to calling a pro-choicer “pro-abort” would be to call a pro-lifer “anti-choice.” I actually think the point Mr. Kuo is making is that even with the best of intentions, by allying themselves so closely with the Republican party Christians have unwittingly made the salt tasteless and the light dim. Our first loyalty is to our Lord. May I invite/challenge you to reread the Gospels without bringing your political and cultural preconceptions to the table? You might find Jesus’ words strikingly foreign and more radical than you ever thought. I say this not to insult you but to encourage you. I’ve read through the Bible almost cover-to-cover this year, and I am repeatedly challenged and shaken by how much my comfortable, middle-class, red-state American values are confronted by the prophets, the psalmist, and Jesus Christ Himself.C. S. Lewis warned that “[m]ost of us are not really approaching the subject [Christian faith] in order to find out what Christianity says. We are approaching it in the hope of finding support from Christianity for the views of our own party.” That seems to me to be what Christians of all political persuasions try to do – Jim Wallis as much as Jim Dobson. God’s power is much greater than man’s. Prayer is much more powerful than pulling a voting lever. I think the increasing concern of many Christians is that we may have, in a Faustian bargain, traded the eternal and incorruptible for some cheap baubles and an occasional mention from the powers of this world. God bless,



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Dennis Castle

posted October 19, 2006 at 12:28 am


Pedro ~ you must be kidding! For the first time in over 30 years we draw close to reversing the abomination of unrestricted abortion being the law of the land, and you have the audacity to confuse voting and praying? I suppose instead of stepping out of the boat, Peter should have remained inside and prayed, or instead of confronting the masses in the 2nd chapter of Acts he should have remained in the upper room and prayed, how dare Paul challenge the Roman world to embrace our faith when he should have been praying in a corner somewhere. Far be it from me to belittle the power of prayer, but others more holy than either of us have been praying for a very long time and we have reached a moment where the earth has shook and the chains have fallen and jail-cell doors have flown open and Mr. Kuo insists we remain inside sitting on our hands. Thank you for your encouragement to read the Bible and pray. I am a teachable soul and not unfamiliar with the contents therein, please share with me where in the Gospels our Lord instructed us to withdraw our hand when we have the opportunity to extend it and further His will (even if that includes something so secular as a voting lever?)? Yes, there are bad politicians and bad religious people and even mistaken, self-important authors who have been blessed by God in the face of dire physical stress and who may have reached conclusions so far afield of His will (but who cannot be bothered to question their conclusions, because they are convinced God healed them for the very purpose of throwing his people under a bus). If someone is beaten on the side of the road does that mean we pass on the other side (most of the ones described in the Good Samaritan parable were religious people, no doubt looking for a nice place to pray and stay out of the messy business of binding wounds and so on)? Just because Kuo was lousy at his job doesn’t prove his assertion that the President is a phony or that Christians can’t play a dynamic impact in making the world a place less heinous in God’s sight. Nobody should confuse political power with the power of God, nor should one hand over political power to those who despise Him for no reason.



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Pedro

posted October 19, 2006 at 3:26 pm


Dennis, I guess the tone you take is actually a good example of the fact that Christians are too focused on winning arguments and defeating their opponents and not focused enough on loving their neighbor. Anyway, I think you are misconstruing my main point. My point was not that Christians should do nothing. My point was that Christians — at least those in the self-identified religious right — are totally enamored with political power as a means of changing the culture. I think if you look at the model of the apostles, they changed individual hearts through their teaching and more importantly, their actions. Of course, changing hearts has the cumulative effect of changing the culture, but notably, the apostles didn’t waste their time trying to buddy up to the Roman officials (or the Jewish leaders). They simply followed the Spirit and preached the gospel. I don’t think that Christians have no role in politics, but I do think that Christians have lost sight of our calling to serve Christ and His kingdom in our zeal to effect political change in earthly “kingdoms,” which has resulted in a powerful diminution of our collective witness for Him. Given that I don’t have the time to go on and on about this, I commend the following interview with James Kurth, which states my position better than I could. Basically, the point is that folks coming from my perspective want to rescue Christianity from politics, not rescue politics from Christianity. http://www.beliefnet.com/story/192/story_19276_1.html



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Frank

posted October 19, 2006 at 10:40 pm


Pedro, Kurth has it right from what I can tell. As you say, Christianity needs rescued from politics, not the other way around. Kurth says our current problems aren t really about religion but instead stem from liberal individualism, which goes back to the atrophy of original Reform Protestantism. The problem is conservative secularism, or this American Creed that has saturated our culture for years. The fact that Bill O Reily from Fox News can write a book about secular progressives is completely baseless and ignorant. To coin secular progressives is an historical error in itself. Liberal individualism is no more than modern conservative secularism. O Reilly and the Right are trying to promote progressivism as liberalism and then link Democrat s as weak or godless. When in truth everything is actually socially and fiscally conservative, on both sides!



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