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Joel Osteen Talks 'Homosexuality' on CNN

Here’s the gist according The Huffington Post:

In response to Morgan’s direct question, “Is homosexuality a sin?” Osteen lisped said:

“Yes, I’ve always believed, Piers, the scripture shows that it’s a sin.”

Joel continued…

Well, it’s strictly back to what the scripture says. I mean, I can’t grab one part and say God wants you to be blessed and live an abundant life, and not grab the other part that says, you know what? You know, live that kind of life. So it comes back to the scripture. I’m not the judge. You know, God didn’t tell me to go around judging everybody.

Did he have to say “grab”?

Of course, this will be the first time that Young White Calvinist Pastors take him seriously…



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Tamara

posted January 24, 2011 at 8:20 pm


…whoa.
I just agreed with Joel Osteen for a little while!



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Amy

posted January 24, 2011 at 8:21 pm


I hate to be the one to say it, but Scripture does say that homosexuality IS a sin. I’m not just sure why we’re making it so much bigger than other sins. Ugh, I can’t believe I agree with Joel Osteen on something.

But, what is your opinion on this topic, MPT?



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KatR

posted January 24, 2011 at 8:22 pm


The whole “I don’t judge” line is the Christian get out of jail free card.



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    Travis Mamone

    posted January 24, 2011 at 8:23 pm


    That and “I have gay friends.”



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    LRA

    posted January 24, 2011 at 11:10 pm


    Kinda like when people say things like “I don’t know where people will spend eternity” when you question them on the whole hell thing?



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    Courtney

    posted January 26, 2011 at 12:36 pm


    Well to be completely technical about it, the whole “I don’t judge” line is completely biblical:

    “There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?” James 4:12

    I mean, we are called to keep those who claim to know Christ accountable to their sin, but judgement of sinners is God’s business… and really, we’re all sinners.

    “For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? God judges those outside.” 1 Corinthians 5:12-13



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Haven

posted January 24, 2011 at 8:26 pm


I thought Christ told us to give everything we have to the poor and follow him. What about that part Joel “prosperity” osteen. Oh, forgot to grab that part conveniently didn’t we.



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    Dan M

    posted January 24, 2011 at 8:33 pm


    When did Jesus tell us to do that?



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      haven

      posted January 24, 2011 at 8:35 pm


      matthew 19:21



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      haven

      posted January 24, 2011 at 8:38 pm


      and in response (although not to you Dan M, but to anyone) when did christ tell us he wanted us to be blessed and live an abundant life. I ask the question in ernest; I just don’t remember christ talking about that, or homosexuality either



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        Don England

        posted January 24, 2011 at 9:12 pm


        Haven -

        I am not aware of any scriptures where Jesus speaks specifically of homosexuality. There is a verse where He speaks of abundant life (perhaps some take these words out of context as well…):

        John 10:8-11 (New American Standard Bible)
        8″All who came before Me are (A)thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them. 9″(B)I am the door; if anyone enters through Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture. 10″The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I came that they (C)may have life, and have it abundantly.11″(D)I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd (E)lays down His life for the sheep.



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          LRA

          posted January 25, 2011 at 8:55 am


          (1) Being a sheep = abundant life? That makes no sense.

          (2) Didn’t shepherds raise sheep to slaughter and eat them, tan their hides, and use their bones for tool making?

          (3) Aren’t sheep known for being stupid herd animals?

          Hmmmmm. And people get offended when they are called “sheeple”… but if the Bible does it, well it’s fine then.



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Dan

posted January 24, 2011 at 8:26 pm


I feel very strange indeed that Joel and I are on the same page about something!



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Pamela

posted January 24, 2011 at 8:27 pm


Let’s think about this: So, homosexual sex is a sin according to the Bible (I’m not even going to get into the sins of heterosexual people). Let’s say the average couple has sex 1-3 times a week. So they have sinned 1-3 times per week. Why are we so cruel to gay people? I happen to be in a loving, monogamous, committed relationship with a man. We will be together forever, are active in our church, etc…not long ago people would have called me a ‘whore’ for not being married to him. My point: Judge not, lest ye be judged…



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    JoshA

    posted January 24, 2011 at 8:39 pm


    O’Steen was asked a direct question on a specific behavior, he didn’t judge anyone. If you make a comment on if something is the right or wrong thing to do, it’s not a judgement. It’s simply an answer to a questions. And I don’t understand why someone who is in a “loving, monogamous, committed relationship” would not get married. Doesn’t make any sense.



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    haven

    posted January 24, 2011 at 8:44 pm


    Hi Pam,

    I know what you mean. I struggled for a long time, as a divorced individual, with the parts in Matthew that condemn divorce much stronger than in other parts, and that I live in a constant state of sin. And maybe I do. But I believe that christ can and does forgive me, and if he can forgive my sins, which go against his direct words, then he can certainly forgive the “sins” of those upon which he never commented. Amazing grace is amazing indeed. :)



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    Garrett

    posted January 24, 2011 at 8:55 pm


    Wait, we measure the seriousness of a sin by how often it’s committed? Jeffrey Dahmer killed 17 dudes between 1978 and 1991… hey wow, that’s only 0.03 sins a week!!

    /sarcasm

    But seriously guys, I’m not drawing parallels between homosexuality and murder. I’m only pointing out a major flaw in Pamela’s argument. Carry on.



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      Michele

      posted January 24, 2011 at 10:58 pm


      Pamela’s whole argument is a major flaw.



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        Garrett

        posted January 25, 2011 at 9:35 am


        Uh, not really. Her main point appears to be “don’t judge”; I see nothing wrong with that. And as your comment offers no counterpoint, it isn’t particularly helpful.



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Don England

posted January 24, 2011 at 8:37 pm


I am a gay male that was intricately involved in the church. This subject is stale. Some churches have decided to focus on one sin… Therefore, it is each individuals assessment and decision which, if any, church they will attend. Joel and his wife are certainly not bashing homosexuality and they state they don’t understand all the issues surrounding it.

Here are 2 scriptures that I live my life by: and ultimately seems that Joel and his wife are trying to live by these:

Matthew 22:36-42 (New American Standard Bible)
36″Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?”
37And He said to him, ” ‘(A)YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.’38″This is the great and foremost commandment. 39″The second is like it, ‘(B)YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.’ 40″(C)On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets.”

Philippians 2:12-16 (New American Standard Bible)
12So then, my beloved, (A)just as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your (B)salvation with (C)fear and trembling;13for it is (D)God who is at work in you, both to will and to work (E)for His good pleasure.14Do all things without (F)grumbling or disputing;15so that you will prove yourselves to be (G)blameless and innocent, (H)children of God above reproach in the midst of a (I)crooked and perverse generation, among whom you (J)appear as lights in the world,16holding fast the word of life, so that in (K)the day of Christ I will have reason to glory because I did not (L)run in vain nor (M)toil in vain.



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Diane

posted January 24, 2011 at 8:42 pm


I agree with Amy .. and Pamela. And I will add … a friend asked me what I think of the whole transgender thing … iike what if a transgender person walked into our church. I said we just need to love them where they are … and it would be the same as the lesbians (family members of a church member) who visit from time to time. Like our pastor says, “My job is to love you.”



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    Amy

    posted January 25, 2011 at 11:11 am


    Diane, I’m glad you agree with me. I think you lovingly took everything a step further to show how we should interact with others. “My job is to love you.” Beautiful.



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    John

    posted January 25, 2011 at 1:04 pm


    What does loving a homosexual “where they are” imply?



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Leia

posted January 24, 2011 at 8:44 pm


As someone who grew up in an evangelical church where it was preached that homosexuality was a sin, this was an issue that I struggled with for a long time–reconciling what I was told with what I actually believed but was afraid to say.

If you want a different perspective on the issue of homosexuality and the church, check out the documentary, “For the Bible Tells Me So.” It is a tasteful, thoughtful look at five Christian families who are navigating life with a gay family member. Also, if you have the time, you might try reading “Stranger at the Gate”–one of my gay friends (who I grew up with in church and read Scripture in my wedding) read it and passed it on to me. It really helped him in his journey.

P. S. MPT, I just want to say thank you for not berating me for self-promoting last week on your blog–I had an overwhelming influx of visitors to my blog, so thanks!



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Don England

posted January 24, 2011 at 8:44 pm


Haven – your scripture reference taken a bit out of context…. This was a specific task directed at a young rich man to evaluate the true love of his heart.

However, most everyone in the USA when compared to the world is a very rich individual and we should head the warnings found in this passage…



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    haven

    posted January 24, 2011 at 8:52 pm


    Hi Don,

    I understand your point, and especially the reference to the US. I bring it up mostly because as a wealthy (by the standards of the rest of the world) american, that passage is one that directly applies in my life. Shane Claiborne writes a lot on the topic, especially applying it to we wealthy americans.

    But it is hardly the only time that Christ asks his followers to give up everything they have and follow him (if you go to a lectionary church, it was the gospel reading this past sunday where Simon, Andrew James And John did just that). It is a tough row to hoe, and one I struggle with every day. Because Unlike Osteen, I cant find anywhere where Christ wants us to be wealthy and blessed, at least not in our modern understanding of material blessings. And they are hard to give up!



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      Don England

      posted January 24, 2011 at 9:05 pm


      Haven -

      Completely understand! I struggled with it for years! But, I think I’ve reconciled or rationalized these passages to mean care for and love our neighbors (meaning world)…

      I guess I should also state that my spiritual beliefs and directives fall more outside of the Christian Doctrines at this time in my life. I find most Churches are simply following the majority and leading an agenda more so than helping to understand our Creator…



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        dafydd

        posted January 25, 2011 at 1:46 am


        Try Luke 12:33, 34

        “Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a treasure in heaven that will never fail, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.”

        There it is spoken to everyone, following the “Do not worry, look at the birds and the flowers” speech.
        How “Abundant life” came to mean lots of material things is beyond me.
        If anything, Jesus promises and predicts that those that his followers will be hated, persecuted, and killed, just like him. But we often like to skip that part.



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Fred Knowlton

posted January 24, 2011 at 8:47 pm


I am a straight ally and a Born-Again Christian(for all you Evangelical Fundamentalist’s reading). I have studied this issue for over 6 years now and no longer believe that homosexuality is a sin. I am sure we could all sit here and argue for days, even weeks, but I want to assure you that if you truly put your heart and mind into this, study it for yourself and pray about it, that the Holy Spirit will lead you to the truth. I would recommend that you study it from both sides. Use the Bible as well as other resources and books that are available. Trust me when I say they are numerous!!
You may also want to check out websites like SoulFource and Revolution Church(www.revolutionnyc.com) My friend and pastor, Jay Bakker, has also just released a book tilted “Fall To Grace” in which he discusses this issue and grace. I highly recommend it. He also did a sermon on this which can be heard at http://revolutionnyc.com/audio/20080622.mp3
Above all, I would say remember to love. It is after all the greatest commandment Jesus left us with.



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    matt mewhorter

    posted January 24, 2011 at 8:55 pm


    I’m a straight-ally and Christian too, Fred. I used to work as a pastor. I’ve haven’t been able to minister in a church since I declared. I’m right with you on this. I could no longer live a lie for a paycheck and betray my friends.



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    Matthew Paul Turner

    posted January 24, 2011 at 9:02 pm


    Thank you Fred.



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    Leia

    posted January 24, 2011 at 9:04 pm


    Thanks for the book suggestion, Fred! I’ll definitely check that out!



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    Amy

    posted January 25, 2011 at 11:14 am


    I reviewed FALL TO GRACE and didn’t like it. But I have asked the Holy Spirit the same thing in regards to homosexuality and still think it’s a sin. It doesn’t change how I love others, but at the end of the day, I have to say it’s a sin.

    And then I worry that people will think I’m some mean intolerant person that tells people they’re going to hell. I’m not. I just think that it is sin and to go around saying that it’s not is wrong.



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    DT

    posted January 25, 2011 at 2:13 pm


    @Fred:

    You said “I am sure we could all sit here and argue for days, even weeks, but I want to assure you that if you truly put your heart and mind into this, study it for yourself and pray about it, that the Holy Spirit will lead you to the truth.”

    I simply want to make the observation that this is exactly what I was told when began to question the KJVOism I was raised with. Your appeal has the side effect (perhaps unintended) of elitism, where those who disagree aren’t really following the Holy Spirit. No?



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matt mewhorter

posted January 24, 2011 at 8:50 pm


Saying that homosexuality is a sin is not a career killer for him. He took no risks in this interview. What he did was safe. I’m willing to bet a part of him wanted to say otherwise, but that would indeed kill his career.



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    Matthew Paul Turner

    posted January 24, 2011 at 8:54 pm


    I sort of thought the same thing, Matt–that he didn’t want to say the answer that he said…



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      matt mewhorter

      posted January 24, 2011 at 8:58 pm


      I felt like I could see it in his face. I know it too well. I used to make the same comments to try to bridge what my church wanted me to say and what I thought my gay friends could accept. I didnt want to lose my job. Painful times.



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    Dianna

    posted January 24, 2011 at 8:58 pm


    I think this is the most clear assessment of what just happened in this interview. We mustn’t forget that Osteen preaches in Houston, TX, and so for him to say what he did is not a remarkable thing (though for him to talk about sin at all is pretty well surprising). It’s sort of the expected stance from churches in Texas.



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Ian

posted January 24, 2011 at 9:01 pm


I enjoyed how Piers literally put words into Joel’s mouth.

As much as I hate the prosperity Gospel, I actually really love the humility Joel demonstrates with the scripture in this interview.



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amy courts

posted January 24, 2011 at 9:09 pm


Shockingly, I actually appreciate where he’s coming from. I think this is the first time I’ve ever heard Joel Osteen say ANYthing about sin of any sort. In that way, I can give him a few points for veering from his typical “just be happy and live your best life!” junk.

Now, I’m a straight, married, pregnant woman ally of humans, gay or otherwise. But I’m personally learning that I can’t sidestep sin of any kind. I don’t know if homosexuality is actually a sin – whether it is or not, it’s a much more complex issue than simple black and white – but I have made a bit of a return lately to what have become blacklisted words among “progressive” Christian types: sin, redemption, repentance. If we weren’t sinners, Christ would have no purpose in our lives.

All that to say, if I may stand on my soapbox for a moment, that I can definitely appreciate Osteen’s refusal to ignore sin altogether in favor of preaching happiness, but his equal refusal to make any one particular sin or sin in general the focal point. Christ should always hold that place.



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Blake J.

posted January 24, 2011 at 10:16 pm


I find it weird that Morgan accused him of being judgmental just because he said homosexuality was a sin AND he gets over seven-million views a week. He’s acting like Osteen is the first person to ever come out and publicly say being gay is a sin.



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Kerry-Anne

posted January 24, 2011 at 10:32 pm


Just a thought-and I/m more than happy to admit if I am wrong, but doesnt God only consider marriage as that between a man and a woman? If so, then all sex outside his view of marriage is a sin-gay or straight…?



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    Michele

    posted January 24, 2011 at 11:04 pm


    No Kerry you are not wrong. Your thinking is right!



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      Matthew Lyon

      posted January 24, 2011 at 11:43 pm


      but then jesus tells the sadusees that no one is married in haven. and paul wishes all could overcome sexual desire and love god. yet, interestingly, paul suggests marriage helps negate lust (sexual greed).

      you know, no one is talking about why sex is even important. there ain’t a single person offering a psychological reasoning behind why sex is so powerful or necessary. or even what it’s theological significance is. marriage and sex are different; a public rite and private acts, one with community the other with ones spouse.

      so have at it, why is sex important.



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Charlie Chang

posted January 25, 2011 at 6:37 am


I like what Joel said. He simply admitted he didn’t have all the answers on this subject, like most of us here.

nicodemusatnite.com



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joel k

posted January 25, 2011 at 8:06 am


Count me among those who are astonished to agree with Mr. Osteen on this one. I think the church focuses way too much on homosexuality. But, I have to admit that, if someone asked me point blank if I believed that homosexuality is a sin, I would probably answer that I believe that it (or at least homosexual sex) is. However, I am not going to go out of my way to say this. I do not make a point to tell this to loved ones who are gay, unless they specifically ask. Because, frankly, we’re all sinners, and we all have our issues.

Even though some evangelicals would like to pretend otherwise homosexuality is qualitatively not different than the sins that the rest of us struggle with. Each of us has sin in our lives that we refuse to let go of. For some people, it is the way we express our anger. For some people, it is stinginess. For some people, it is inappropriate sexual acts or ideation. For some people, it is gossip. And, so on. It is not appropriate, as some evangelicals do, to focus on one sin above all others. Nor, is it appropriate, as some liberals do, to say that something is not sin when it is politically expedient.



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    James D Morrison

    posted January 25, 2011 at 12:40 pm


    By focusing on the trees, we forget the forest– the only way to have salvation is through Jesus Christ. Sin can happen from looking at someone’s avatar. C’mon people, if you want to live a life for Jesus, choose to do it. No one is perfect, and Jesus never demanded perfection. He never even suggested it.



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      joel k

      posted January 25, 2011 at 4:21 pm


      I agree with you generally, except for your last couple sentences there: Jesus did say, “Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.” I’d call that, at the very least, suggesting perfection.



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Mark

posted January 25, 2011 at 8:20 am


Joel got his job because he was born into the rigth family (like many other Christian leaders).



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    LRA

    posted January 25, 2011 at 9:01 am


    Yeah- I was astonished to hear that he didn’t go to any kind of seminary. I’m sure he means well, but wow.



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Terroni

posted January 25, 2011 at 9:33 am


I would no sooner ask Joel Osteen to weigh in on spiritual matters than I would ask Helen Keller to help me pick out paint.



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    Larry

    posted January 25, 2011 at 1:08 pm


    I snorted my diet pepsi on that statement…



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    JLL

    posted January 25, 2011 at 2:09 pm


    I want that on a t-shirt! Brilliant!



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      Matthew Lyon

      posted January 25, 2011 at 3:33 pm


      i dunno. scratch and sniff paint?



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        davepettengill

        posted January 26, 2011 at 9:21 am


        Like that wallpaper in Willy Wonka! That would be awesome and you could knock your friends heads into the wall when they tried to smell the snozberries :)



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DT

posted January 25, 2011 at 12:56 pm


The belief that homosexuality=sin is not the same as hating homosexuals. Calling something a sin is a statement on what GOD thinks about it, plain and simple. I refuse to agree with people who say we can’t really know what God thinks about it. If you want a solid Biblical study on the issue:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/415673/hsxy.htm



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Mala

posted January 25, 2011 at 1:05 pm


Hi ,
God Condemns Sin & not the Sinner.There is Forgiveness by The Blood of Jesus, when we truly Repent.But how can you Repent unless you acknowledge Sin as Sin ?.
Both Old & New Testament(Paul’s writing in Romans-Chapter- 1) of the Bible are very Clear in Condemning Homosexuality .
Read the Story of Lot & How God sent Angels to Destroy the City of Sodom in (Genesis: Chapter -19)!. If God could not tolerate this on Earth , you can be sure it has no place in Heaven ! .
However God did allow Abraham to Intercede for the People of the City of Sodom .
Just look at Nature ! Does any of the Species exhibit this Behaviour ?. For eg. if a town of Gay men existed, that Generation would just die out.It’s a Dead end !.
Family is God’s Idea,Male & Female, he Created & Blessed them to be Fruitful & Multiply on This Earth. Yes, God is LOVE , but He is also JUST . He has already Paid a heavy Price for the Salvation of Mankind .There will be a day of ACCOUNTABILITY for Everyone. Lets be Crystal Clear in what we Beleive & Practice. God Bless You.



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John

posted January 25, 2011 at 1:10 pm


I still haven’t drawn any systematic conclusion on this topic, though I do have some leanings. The question I would appreciate better (more) responses for is this: what are we supposed to do with those scriptures that directly target certain behaviors?

We’ve, for the most part, done something with the women in church thing, and have realized slavery really isn’t a good thing. Is homosexuality next?

I’m no Osteen fan, whatever that means, but I appreciated his demeanor. His argument and the reporters were nothing more than the same lip service from each side.

Stay blessed…john



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    DT

    posted January 25, 2011 at 2:08 pm


    behaviors=actions,
    target=condemn or condone,
    Scripture targeting behaviors = Scripture condemning or condoning actions
    Scripture condemning actions = sin
    Scripture condoning actions = righteousness

    Your question boils down to, what do we do with Scripture’s pronouncement of what is sin or righteousness? We submit to it and uphold it as true. To do anything else is to twist Scripture.



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      LRA

      posted January 25, 2011 at 10:20 pm


      Oh, so you think that wearing silk and linen together is also an abomination?

      When’s the last time you stoned someone to death?

      Typical cherry-picking.



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        DT

        posted January 26, 2011 at 11:51 am


        @LRA:
        Cherry-picking? Where in my post did I pick out one thing from Scripture? Where in my post did I say we should ignore context? You are putting words in my mouth.



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          LRA

          posted January 26, 2011 at 1:11 pm


          So, “We submit to it and uphold it as true. To do anything else is to twist Scripture.”???

          What scriptures do you hold up as true? Surely, not the ones I mentioned.



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          DT

          posted January 27, 2011 at 11:55 am


          Well, where do you draw the line between what applies today and what does not. What is the principle that you apply to come to such conclusions?
          The traditional approach is to make a division between OT ceremonial/covenant law and moral law. Do you find that approach invalid?



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Charlie's Church of Christ

posted January 25, 2011 at 1:12 pm


that interviewer is a jerk – if I were a celebrity I would decline an interview with him simply because he clearly wants to hear certain things and wants to throw people under the bus.



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    joel k

    posted January 25, 2011 at 4:30 pm


    I agree. Piers asked the question, got an honest answer that he didn’t like, and then threw the pastor under the bus for being honest. I don’t like it Christians beat people over the head with the “homosexuality is a sin” message, but I would also caution that if someone don’t want to hear a conservative Christian say such things, then they shouldn’t ask them for their opinion on the topic.



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noelle

posted January 25, 2011 at 1:56 pm


I feel so culturally uninformed. Who is Joel Osteen?



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    noelle

    posted January 25, 2011 at 2:44 pm


    Gimme a sec and I’ll Wiki him….

    So he’s an evangelical Texas TV preacher who teaches warm fuzzies, usually avoids yelling about sin, and believes in rewards for those who follow God? He’s known to evade questions on if Jesus is the only path to heaven?

    Sounds downright liberal compared to his contemporaries.

    Can’t say as I agree with his statement, but sounds like he’s going with a safe stock answer in an obnoxious leading interview. There are Xian leaders who believe different. Does CNN interview them too?



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      Dianna

      posted January 25, 2011 at 7:36 pm


      He’s a big, big proponent of the prosperity gospel.



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      LRA

      posted January 25, 2011 at 10:23 pm


      His church is in the old “Summit” building where the Houston Rockets used to play.



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Mirinda

posted January 26, 2011 at 1:20 pm


While I cannot stand Joel Osteen, I do agree he was asked a specific question and answered it.

At the same time, how convenient he doesn’t normally talk about ‘sin’. No wonder he has so many followers….name it and claim it and oh by the way, let’s leave sin out of it. How feel good and ticklish to your ears- way to go Joel!

I believe we were told to live with abundant JOY and life IN Christ….not the abundant life filled with material things we desire. This man makes my skin crawl!



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davepettengill

posted January 26, 2011 at 2:20 pm


It seems that Piers Morgan got a little bent out of shape and became defensive when he didn’t seem to hear the answer he was hoping to hear. I did appreciate how Joel made the point that too many times the church wants to find a couple sins in particular and make those out to be worse than other sins. I mean honestly how often do you hear gluttony being talked about in sermons? I have heard pastors talk about how our body is God’s temple and we need to treat is with respect. However, how many times do you hear pastors from the pulpit speak with as much boldness about gluttony as they do homosexuality? I have never heard a pastor say from the pulpit, “If you are overweight you are sinning. If you are full and you go back for seconds you are sinning.” I think honestly this is because that would be convicting to more than half of the people who are ministers.



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Crystal

posted January 28, 2011 at 7:21 pm


I couldn’t disagree more with Joel Osteen on the subject, but I think it takes a lot of humility for such a popular evangelical minister to approach the subject from the “I don’t know” perspective. Karen Armstrong points out that “I don’t know” is the first step to learning… learning is the first step to changing one’s position. I hope that his “I don’t know” position will inspire his curiosity, that curiosity will lead to study, and study will lead to a changed perspective on what the text says about same sex relationships.



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A Baptist mom meets the Black Eyed Peas…
Aw… my mom dances like that, too. A Baptist mom meets the Black Eyed Peas… is a post from: Jesus Needs New PR

posted 11:21:43am Dec. 30, 2011 | read full post »

Pat Robertson blasts SNL over Jesus, Tebow skit!
Hmm. SNL has poked fun with Jesus before… Chances are, Pat wouldn’t have said anything about this skit had it not been poking fun at Tebow… SNL has used “Jesus” in skits many many times. There seems to be a double standard among some Christians when the religious sati

posted 9:16:03am Dec. 22, 2011 | read full post »

Pirates, bubbles, and Jesus
Merry Christmas… Pirates, bubbles, and Jesus is a post from: Jesus Needs New PR

posted 9:02:42am Dec. 22, 2011 | read full post »

Bad nativity…
@gveitinger Bad nativity… is a post from: Jesus Needs New PR

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