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‘Twilight’ rapes your mind & spirit says evangelist!

Oh dear.

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Derrick

posted October 24, 2010 at 6:02 pm


Somebody needs to conjure the spirit of Stacy London on this chick…oh my god…cast off that spirit of Jan Crouch sister! Its subtle, but it’s got its hold on you!

PS…why do women like this in the church have witch hands?



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Gina

posted October 24, 2010 at 6:07 pm


Well, $%!#! And here I was, all excited for the next movie!



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DK Stangeland

posted October 24, 2010 at 6:09 pm


so she’s a little over the top in her prayers but what exactly do you have a problem with?



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    Matthew Paul Turner

    posted October 24, 2010 at 6:10 pm


    Uh… the whole theory…



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      sharideth

      posted October 24, 2010 at 6:24 pm


      gosh, i don’t know, matthew. i just watched Twilight (again) and was considering joining a coven right after the next full moon. this just saved my soul from damnation.



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Heather

posted October 24, 2010 at 6:09 pm


She’s going to visit a coven of vampires? Umm. Okaaaay…



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Corrigan

posted October 24, 2010 at 6:13 pm


There is a spirit of death that is literally HRLLLLLRAKA!!!



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Kristi

posted October 24, 2010 at 6:14 pm


Holy. Cow. She was speaking in this nice gentle voice and then when she started to pray…BOOM! Apparently I’ve been praying wrong all these years…guess you’re supposed to scream and shout to make sure Jesus hears you. Duh. Silly me.



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sharideth

posted October 24, 2010 at 6:18 pm


wow, i didn’t know that god is hard of hearing. i would have been praying much louder had i known.



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Mark

posted October 24, 2010 at 6:19 pm


I guess she wants to run for the US Senate.



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Jenn

posted October 24, 2010 at 6:22 pm


I said this before with the whole Pastor Mark rant on Twilight – why now? Why do we feel that these books are somehow worse than any other book that young adults come across? The issue isn’t the subject matter, the issue is that young girls do not have a healthy idea of love modeled in their homes. That is what we are seeing in the obsession with Edward or heck even Justin Bieber or whoever else they run screaming after.

Twilight, Harry Potter etc are content wise no worse than Chaucer, Shakespeare which contain homosexuality, murder, adultery, ghosts etc (all absent from Twilight) – it’s just a false attempt to appear relevant when they need to be addressing the real issues.



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    sharideth

    posted October 24, 2010 at 6:25 pm


    comment win.



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    Silica

    posted October 24, 2010 at 6:40 pm


    Shakespeare doesn’t address real issues?



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    Jessica

    posted October 24, 2010 at 7:03 pm


    There’s no rule that says fiction has to address real issues. It’s okay to read things that just entertain us. With that said, I LOVE fiction. It often has a way of teaching us things without being boring and giving us a list ten things we need to do to improve our lives.



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      Jenn

      posted October 24, 2010 at 9:17 pm


      I agree with Jessica

      The point was that neither Twilight et al or Chaucer et al or fiction in general is here to be the source of complete instruction in anyone’s life – fiction comments on issues, it highlights problems or desires but when any book regardless of its content or origin becomes the soul source of reality for a child or an adult, the response should not be condemning the book but rather addressing the issues behind that person’s desire to become obsessed with that book.

      Why are young girls hanging posters of Edward and Jacob up in their rooms and becoming convince that there is a real life equivalent and or that they must or will feel the same way Bella does about Edward? There are no simple answers but yet there seems to be mindset that there is – one side says it’s hormones and the other as with this lady claim it’s demonic – I’m going to go with it’s neither thought the high pitch screaming I hear from these girls makes me wonder. Most of these young girls are desperate for love – a kind of love that fills all those voids caused by the dysfunction in our families and all the hateful messages that surround them.



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      Dianna

      posted October 25, 2010 at 3:35 am


      I think there’s some confusion about who the “they” is – I believe the OP is saying that the Church focuses on subject matter rather than the real issues presented in the books. Instead of using Twilight as a chance to open up a dialogue about what a real, loving, non-abusive romantic relationship looks like, the Church jumps on “ZOMG VAMPIRES!!!”



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Steve D

posted October 24, 2010 at 6:30 pm


“I work in darkness”?

She goes where no Christian has gone before…To a Vampire coven…Such are the travels of Angela Greenig



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    Brother K

    posted October 24, 2010 at 7:43 pm


    The media creative in me sees limitless possibilities in this comment:
    The Travels of Angela Greening: Action Evangelist!
    Script (and storyboards) By Jack Chick

    As far as the screamin’ & shoutin’ during the prayer, I think it’s a signal to noise type thing. Jesus might be listening in on another frequency, y’know?



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Jessica

posted October 24, 2010 at 6:50 pm


I think the real tragedy is that anyone would choose to read such poorly written books. Oops! What I mean is…um, well, at least kids are reading. ;)



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April

posted October 24, 2010 at 6:50 pm


Wait, so…she’s telling everyone to stay away from the “evil spirits” in Twilight, but she’s going to go visit a “vampire coven?” Does anyone else see anything a little off about that?



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    Aran

    posted October 25, 2010 at 9:39 am


    I had the same thought!!!

    STAY AWAY FROM THIS STUFF . . . IT RAPES YOU!!!

    But I’m going . . . and God is leading me there.

    Huh?!?



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Susan

posted October 24, 2010 at 7:00 pm


She’s not completely wrong. Young girls do get taken in by that supernatural and it goes down a creepy path. But it would be great if she acknowledged that girls long to be loved. Much of our modernist, naturalistic world is caught up in objects. These movies tap into a greater reality of good and evil. And people respond to that. Not to mention it’s just mediocre girl-porn. but that’s another story.

But a woman who’s been seduced by the demon of plastic surgery (those eyebrows!) kinda loses her cred. Just sayin.



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    Carole Turner

    posted October 24, 2010 at 8:24 pm


    I’m sorry Susan but I will have to disagree with one of the things you said in your comment.

    Twilight is not girl porn. Porn is porn. Porn is people having sex, graphic, multiple partners, animals,devices, etc. THAT is porn. Porn is an industry populated with girls who were trafficked and forced to perform sexual acts with multiple partners. Porn is an industry geared toward repeated sexual arousal that works to draw the viewer back again and again, like a drug, needing more and more,going further and further into sexual perversion, to get that high. That is porn. It twist normal sexual expectations, causes human relationships to not be enough, and in teen age boys it has been proven that repeated viewing of porn actually retards brain development. that is porn. And porn movie producing is one of the leading causes of sex trafficking of under aged victims.

    The Twilight movies are FAR from porn. They are actually very pure sexually. Shirtless hard bodied teen heart throbs rescuing damsels in distress is nothing new, and it’s not porn.

    The reaction of a teen age girls brain to Twilight is like teen movie star crushes that girls had on Elvis in the 60’s and I had on Matt Dillon in the 80’s.

    This lady is whacked for sure so I agree with you there.



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      Tony C.

      posted October 24, 2010 at 8:51 pm


      Pornography as according to Webster:
      1: the depiction of erotic behavior (as in pictures or writing) intended to cause sexual excitement
      2: material (as books or a photograph) that depicts erotic behavior and is intended to cause sexual excitement
      3: the depiction of acts in a sensational manner so as to arouse a quick intense emotional reaction

      I don’t think Susan meant literal pornography when she referred to Twilight as girl-porn, but there are definitely some depictions within the series that would fall under these definitions.

      What she meant, I believe, is that these books are to girls like porn is to boys. They get girls on this emotional high and they fall in love with these fictional characters (not just the “hard-bodied teen heart throbs” on screen), but the ones in the books. You say that porn “twists normal sexual expectations and causes human relationships not to be enough.” These books can (not always) do that same thing, and the movies make it even more difficult. Some girls get so wrapped up in the men or boys they are reading about (or how women will do with romance novels), that the real-life men who are trying to pursue them or love them just aren’t enough anymore. They think that relationships are supposed to be like the ones portrayed in the books they read, but they aren’t.

      Porn is a terrible thing. But these books/movies can definitely have some of the same effects on girls that porn does on boys or girls. And this definitely is mediocre girl-porn.



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      Susan

      posted October 24, 2010 at 9:22 pm


      Carole: Girl porn is a popularized term for women’s romance, particularly the steamy stuff full of longing and bodice ripping. Yes, it’s nothing new. But we women would be hypocrites to judge men’s porn and without taking a look at our own forms of addictive escape. Women get caught up in the titillation, the longing … even Bridges of Madison County was the same thing. a Men are titillated by images. Women are titillated by ideas and emotional seduction. Of course hard core porn is different. And it’s become violent on top of everything else. It’s horrible.

      Anyway “girl porn” is a pop term



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      Susan

      posted October 28, 2010 at 11:20 am


      Hey Carole: “Girl porn” is a slang term for girly romance movies and books.

      http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=girl%20porn

      Those trashy/syrupy romance novels that women get addicted to. Tony C below is saying what I meant to say. We have our own escapist addictions. I think Twilight falls under the same banner as “The Notebook.”



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Matt

posted October 24, 2010 at 7:26 pm


Have you ever noticed how most Christians have this “turn on the Holy” switch they flip when they start to pray? Yeah…she just flipped it.

On another note, I teach in a town where the Southern Baptists pushed for a boycott back in the day when the Harry Potter books came out. They got it. Then everyone else stood up and said “wait a minute crazies.” I haven’t seen anything bad come out of the books or the Twilight books. All I see is children reading and improving their literacy. Which in the end, is definitely a good thing.



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Onward, Forward, Toward...

posted October 24, 2010 at 7:30 pm


What is it about these spiritual warfare wackjobs that look and act very creepy, look 20 years older than they are, along with speaking in a hyper-boisterous tone of voice that seems to over-sensationalize things?

What is it about these spiritual warfare videos made by these spiritual warfare wackjobs that talk about coming out of darkness into the light but the sets are dark and creepy looking?

I want to know because everyone I ever met who claims a spiritual warfare type of ministry (male and female) has always acted in these same exaggerated mannerisms running around with their “demon detector devices” like this woman and eventually went off the deep end with the hysteria, paranoia, and conspiracy theories; especially the spiritual warfare people who move away from the occult spiritual warfare issues and venture into the “end-times” / antichrist exposing mindset.



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Carole Turner

posted October 24, 2010 at 7:43 pm


Uh, so that lovely voice she took on when praying WASN’T demonic? Wow.

I wrote a post on my blog about Twilight and porn a while back because a youth leader in our church told a class full of teen age girls that Twilight does the same thing to a young girls brain that porn does to a man’s brain! She’s a nice girl (the leader is barely in her 20’s herself) but she couldn’t be more wrong.

Crap like this is so stupid.

http://www.carolesmithturner.com/2010/07/twilight-and-porn.html



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Alise

posted October 24, 2010 at 8:29 pm


I literally think that I should go and literally blast my daughter’s Twilight DVDs to the moon so that the literally millions of tiny demons that are in my house will literally be cleansed from stuff that is literally killing us all.

Literally.



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    Charlie's Church of Christ

    posted October 24, 2010 at 10:46 pm


    I loved the use of literally for things she did not actually mean literally. But it gives it so much power!



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    Jeff Holton

    posted October 25, 2010 at 1:26 pm


    I’m assuming from this comment that she says “literally” more than once. I turned it off as soon as she said it the first time at 0:39.

    She literally makes me want to suspend proper rules of grammar and diction. She also makes me want to staple bagels to my face and then remove them with a pitchfork. [Weird Al reference intended.]

    I wonder if non-fiction (literal or otherwise) about demons would be alright in her house.



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Dianna

posted October 25, 2010 at 3:46 am


I really, really wish she wouldn’t use the word rape in such a haphazard manner. It undermines those things that really, truly are rape. She’s discussing the idea that when we willingly open Twilight and let our kids read it, that it is “raping” their minds, souls, etc. That’s just such a misuse of a word that means something very, very different to people that I can’t help but be bothered.

How we use words in everyday life reflects how we feel about the subject. If we so wantonly use “rape” to mean things that are not rape, we degrade the seriousness of rape itself. It’s like Lewis said, “Do not use infinitely when you mean very. You will then not have the words when you encounter something truly infinite.” (not an exact quote, but I don’t have it in front of me).

When we say “my football team got raped” or “dude, Senator O’Donnell got raped” in that debate, the metaphor far exceeds the context. The only thing “rape” should be used for is actual, real “rape.” Just as Christians dislike it when people undermine the power of words in Christian heritage – faith, creed, Jesus, worship, etc – that’s how I feel about the word “rape.” The last thing we need to take from victims of rape is the ability to accurately describe what happened to them through the use of a word that has a lot of power.



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Rex

posted October 25, 2010 at 5:22 am


Be careful or Twilight may have the same disastrous consequences that Bewitched had on my generation.



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    Jeff Holton

    posted October 25, 2010 at 1:40 pm


    Or Dark Shadows on our parents. Oh, SO many 60-somethings are goth today, y’know.

    (Actually, I guess, if not, then Elvira makes up for it.)

    Oh, don’t forget the Addams Family!



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    Mike

    posted October 25, 2010 at 8:38 pm


    I literally didn’t want to name my first born daughter Samantha because of the connection with “Bewitched”…



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Mark

posted October 25, 2010 at 9:24 am


I tried to find a biography on this woman. All I can find about her in is on her web-site. It does appear her highest level of education is high school. Yes, I know many intelligent and successful have never attended college.
I would like to know; what has she studied, what books has she read and who has been her mentors and teachers? It does appear this woman is ignorant about origin of vampire mythology and probably everything else.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire#Origins_of_vampire_beliefs
A person’s spiritual life is too important to be handed over to ignorant people like this.
P.S. Vampires are not real!



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Tiffany

posted October 25, 2010 at 9:43 am


First off – creepy nails! Why do people do that to their hands? It was seriously distracting.

Second – When HP first came out, I was against it. Same reasons most traditional christians state – witchcraft, blah blah blah. However, now I ADORE the movies, and can’t wait to see the final ones. BUT I’ve never read the books. How far they go into witchcraft and demons, I have no clue.

I’ve stayed away from Twilight completely.

But as a teenager, I read Harlequin romances and Anne Rice. And was secretly in love with Louis from Interview with a Vampire. And wanted my dream guy to come steal me away from life. It is a very nice idea to think you could find someone who would love you forever and all eternity. Young girls need to have that love and security in their lives. Those who have good fathers and love and acceptance at home can still fantasize about finding their dream guy. Young girls who don’t have good fathers, who aren’t loved and accepted at home or school, well, these fantasies are ways to escape from an unloved reality – these fantasies are hope for a better future.

Instead of boycotting and demonizing fiction that offers hope, don’t you think we should be reaching out to those taken in by it and offering them the everlasting love of God?

(A redundant comment from what others have said, I know)



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jay sauser

posted October 25, 2010 at 9:52 am


I like how she says what the movie does to those who watch but doesn’t give any examples of how the movie and books do this.



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Pat

posted October 25, 2010 at 4:53 pm


“It has to do with the fascination of BLOOD and being LOVED and being able to LIVE ETERNAL.”

That sounds like a major religion I once heard of.



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Mike

posted October 25, 2010 at 8:40 pm


Wait’ll Angela finds out Stephenie Meyer is a Mormon…



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Scot Kraemer

posted October 26, 2010 at 10:11 am


My mind was spiritually raped and I enjoyed it. I feel so violated and dirty.



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