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Christians vs. Strippers in Ohio!

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Strip-club owner Tommy George rolled up to the church in his grabber-orange Dodge Challenger, drinking a Mountain Dew at 9 in the morning and smoking a cigarette he had just rolled himself.

Pastor Bill Dunfee stepped out of a tan Nissan Murano, clutching a Bible in one hand and his sermon in the other, a touch of spray holding his perfectly coiffed ‘do in place.

Inside the New Beginnings Ministries church, Dunfee’s worshippers wore polyester and pearls.

Outside, George’s strippers wore bikinis and belly rings.

Both men agree it is classic sinners vs. saints. But George says it is up to America to decide which is which and who is who.

Dunfee says God already has chosen.

“Tom George is a parasite, a man without judgment,” Dunfee said. “The word of Jesus Christ says you cannot share territory with the devil.”

Read the rest of the story here.

I read this article three time and I’m still confused.

Maybe it’s a reality TV show: “Ohio Shore” perhaps?

Sent to me by Kyle.



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Jonathan Elliot

posted August 9, 2010 at 8:58 am


Uh… I’m confused too. What is the actual disagreement about?

That God doesn’t like strippers, or the profession? That Christians don’t like strippers tanning outside their church?



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Leanne

posted August 9, 2010 at 9:03 am


I am confused too. Is this real?
If it is, the church had an amazing opportunity not to go out and tell everyone they were a sinner but to creatively share grace. I watched “Lord save us from your followers” a while back. There was a story about people opening a confession booth where Christians confessed to “the sinners” sins of arrogance, pride, negligence, etc. I wonder what it would have looked like for the church to come out with coffee and cookies to the strippers and talk–not about their jobs but listen to the strippers’ stories. Where are you from? Are you into sports? Do you like to read books? What books have you read lately? And when they said something offensive, let it go and continue with the conversation. Wonder what that would have looked like?



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sharideth

posted August 9, 2010 at 9:05 am


jesus said, “go ye therefore into all the world shutting down strip clubs in warsaw, ohio and the utter most parts of the world.” right? no?



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@russkle

posted August 9, 2010 at 9:12 am


Or, Church could volunteer to use this negative energy between them for good. Ask to participate in local charity together. (Soup Kitchen, Habitat, etc.)
Even better, help the girls in some way. Babysitting while they work. Remodel the backstage makeup room.



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David

posted August 9, 2010 at 9:35 am


I think it is the perfect example of Christians fighting spiritual battles with carnal tools.

There are lots of outreach ministries that try to meet folks where they are at.

Protesting or something that looks like it, just says “you’re bad.” Yet, there certainly is a place for Christian protest – but it’s always better to say what we stand for, not to point out the sins of others.

The most successful outreaches I have seen, generally try to meet a physical need that exposes those in need to loving Christians – if you know what i mean.



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Jeff

posted August 9, 2010 at 9:41 am


That is an interesting story to say the least. The article kind of makes both sides look like fools though.

I too can not make heads or tails of this article and the point it was trying to make.

Jeff
http://www.godsurfer.com/



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Laurabo

posted August 9, 2010 at 9:42 am


Dunfee’s comment alone is enough to set your teeth on edge. Why do we think we have to use a 2×4 to get people’s attention? How is this showing Christ’s love?

I agree with Leanne above, what a perfect opportunity to see them as “people” with thoughts, emotins, feelings, hurts etc. to minister to the whole person.



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BDC

posted August 9, 2010 at 10:01 am


This might be the funniest example of what goes around coming around I’ve ever seen. I’d like to see drag queens and gays who were protested against at a Pride parade show up at that church’s doorstep doing a drag show and go go dancing in their underwear.

When will people get that protesting is especially offensive when your cause is trying to convert? I guess it’s easier to protest for a couple hours than building a relationship with another person and maybe showing them what you’re all about, rather than being an ass to them publicly.



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    Leanne

    posted August 9, 2010 at 11:19 am


    You hit it right on the nose, BDC. Evangelism in the New Testament was about relationship. We want the easy, far less messy road of debate and tracts and shouting scriptures at people. We nicely wash over the Scriptures where Jesus ate with sinners, went to their homes–which meant he would be unclean by religious standards. His use of Scripture outside of the teaching he did, was used for Satan and the pharisees who were trying to trip him up. Perhaps we need to revisit the Gospels.



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Charlie's Church of Christ

posted August 9, 2010 at 12:18 pm


Definitely gotta read the article to figure out what’s going on – after 4 years of weekly protests at the strip club (including putting the license plates online of the people who go inside???) they dancers decided to protest at the church. Classic switcheroo.

I’m still trying to figure out when the church suddenly thought it was their job to be the morality police and try to make the world a safe place by shaming all the sinners. Didn’t Jesus shut down the Pharisees two thousand years ago?



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    Joe Crenshaw

    posted August 9, 2010 at 8:55 pm


    He also called sinners to repentance . . .. :”Go and sin no more.”



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      Leanne

      posted August 10, 2010 at 5:31 am


      He called sinners to repentance by showing grace and mercy, not by hitting them over the head with Scriptures and picket signs. The pharisees picked up the stones because they had to keep a distance from sinners in order to stay holy. Jesus never was distant to the sinner, he never picked up the stones. It is the mercy of God which bring us to repentance not Scriptures slung like stones.



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      RobM

      posted August 10, 2010 at 1:05 pm


      Pretty sure he told that to people who came seeking to follow or for healing. And definitely did not send disciples to go & decry the wickedness they could find.



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Joe Crenshaw

posted August 9, 2010 at 8:54 pm


1. I can see where both sides need to take a chill pill and stop acting silly here.

2. If those are strippers, then I know why the clubs are dark and have no windows.

3. I have never been to a strip club in my life and seeing those strippers in broad day light has insured that I never will.



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Scott

posted August 10, 2010 at 12:04 am


I’m gonna need more pics before I can post an informative comment.



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Eric Near

posted August 10, 2010 at 10:32 am


I get it now. Before reading the article I was thinking the church and the strip club were sharing a building. Now THAT would make for an interesting story.

Don’t get me wrong, going to strip clubs is a damaging thing to a lot of men. I’m sure a lot of those people whose license plates are being videotaped and posted online don’t really need help developing a good healthy guilt.



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Denver E Wilson

posted August 10, 2010 at 11:42 am


God loves sinners that was the purpose of sending his Son into the world. The strippers should go into the church during the service and the members should welcome them just as Jesus himself would do. And churches shouldn’t act like dictators, but as the word records the actions of God and his son, Jesus.



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RobM

posted August 10, 2010 at 1:12 pm


I’ve been to a cabaret show in Columbus (Easton actually) a few years back, and they had a segment mocking fundies. I figured some of them had to have grown up in fundies to be from Columbus & be mocking the kind of moralizing that church clearly had been doing. Apparently Columbus itself has it’s fair share of fundies, and you don’t have to be an import. So misguided. Sad that the stripper is more correct theologically that the line between good & evil goes through everyone, not the fundies good & the strippers evil. For the record never been to a club, and no desire to go, but they still are humans made in the image of God for crying out loud.



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Jay

posted August 10, 2010 at 1:56 pm


Food for thought to those who condemn the church. Would you feel the same towards a man who had just raped and dismembered your nine- year old daughter? What if the judge set him free and he moved to your neighborhood? Sin is not classified in the scriptures. Jesus didnt turn the temple upside down because he didnt take his Prozac. God does love, but dont forget that he judges. The new testament did not remove judgement.



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    Scott C

    posted August 10, 2010 at 5:15 pm


    Good post. If the “church” wanted to be effective, they should be reaching out to the women AND the men. People become interested in Christ when they spend time together with REAL followers of Christ, and will want to know more.



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Brannon Hancock

posted August 10, 2010 at 2:21 pm


I’m still trying to figure out how the strippers managed to grill Monster Energy drinks along with their hamburgers and corn on the cob.

(…which is to say: this is a terribly written article.)



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Rocco

posted August 16, 2010 at 1:31 pm


Thought I’d post some updates to the story…

(Hope the links work)…



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