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Do you attend a ‘community church’? YOU’RE A PART OF THE PROBLEM!

Well… you’re a part of the problem according to Pastor Anderson. I know Pastor Anderson, not personally, but I know him because he’s the carbon copy of all the pastors, assistant pastors, AND school teachers at the church and school I grew up in. Pastor Anderson is sort of a YouTube sensation. Ever since he preached against men who sit down to pee, he’s garnered an online following…

In the following clip, he reveals why he hates community churches AND his hatred of American Idol

I do agree that this season of American Idol has been sinfully awful!

On a side note… if you can imagine this guy teaching you American History, then you can imagine what my American History class, taught by Mr. Davidson, was like…

Also… for a lesson on HOW TO SOUL WIN… watch this… AMAZING… lol



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Abraham Piper

posted May 21, 2010 at 1:21 pm


Remember when Pastor Anderson got beat up by border patrol? That was funny.



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Amy

posted May 21, 2010 at 1:21 pm


Um, um….

So I guess this guy is perfect and all “real” pastors are as well?



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Corrigan

posted May 21, 2010 at 1:23 pm


I wouldn’t buy a vacuum from this guy, let alone a relationship with Jesus.



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Shannon

posted May 21, 2010 at 1:24 pm


Was that for real? That is the best stand up I’ve ever seen, he’s hilarious!



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Tim M

posted May 21, 2010 at 1:25 pm


I was with him until he mentioned “Dancing with the Stars”. Actually, no, I was never with him at all.

This video deserves an Jimmy Kimmel-esque editing of Unnecessary Censorship.



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KatR

posted May 21, 2010 at 1:26 pm


I thought this was going to be another one of Glen Beck’s rants against “social justice”.



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Rachael

posted May 21, 2010 at 1:26 pm


Oh, wow! Somebody needs to lay off those quad mochas!

I think it was being raised Catholic, but man, I do not understand this particular flavor of Christianity, and I have honestly tried for years. It’s like calimari, or even mushrooms: many of my family love them, but I just don’t understand the appeal.



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Layanna Maiara

posted May 21, 2010 at 1:26 pm


God! I couldn’t watch more than 30 seconds of it.



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    Matthew Paul Turner

    posted May 21, 2010 at 1:29 pm


    Imagine 14 years of that.

    *sigh*



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      Layanna Maiara

      posted May 21, 2010 at 1:40 pm


      Man, this is torture and it should be illegal!
      I know pastors here (in Brazil) that are even worse. Can you imagine it?



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Jeff

posted May 21, 2010 at 1:31 pm


Every so often, I watch clips of his sermons. My wife cannot understand me. For me, it’s my version of scared straight. I could have been that. Thank God I work in a community church instead.



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Rob

posted May 21, 2010 at 1:31 pm


This bro is a perfect modern day pharisee if there ever was one. I just threw up in my mouth a little.



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John M. Hoyt

posted May 21, 2010 at 1:32 pm


I’m part of the problem too…



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Jared Y

posted May 21, 2010 at 1:37 pm


Sad. I’ve never understood condemning someone who is on the same team as you. Why not use that energy and screaming time, convincing people there are lost folks out there who need the Gospel. Convincing them there are people in this world who have never heard the Gospel, never read the Bible, or don’t even have their language written down so they can read it.

I feel sad for this church, for this lifestyle because they have hard hearts toward Christ, maybe more than animists might who are steeped in the fear of spirits. I guess all we can do is pray for them, earnestly and forgive them for their antics. Thanks for posting this Matthew, it is good to see the options of ‘church’ we have in the west. =)



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    Matthew Paul Turner

    posted May 21, 2010 at 1:48 pm


    Jared,

    To a guy like Pastor Anderson, you’re not on the same team. Not even close. One of the foundational doctrines to Christian fundamentalism is separatism… to unite with another type of church on any level is to them, selling your soul to the Devil. (And I know that sounds crazy and exaggerated, but I’m very serious.) Most of these young preachers have been brainwashed into thinking this way by their college professors/pastors…

    I only told a small percentage of my church/school story in Churched. I left much of the dark side of fundamentalism out… some day perhaps I’ll tell it…

    But Christian fundamentalism is far more than some idiot of a preacher yelling and screaming at the top of his lungs… it’s a psychotic, abusive, destructive way of life that takes years from which to recover.



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      Jan

      posted May 21, 2010 at 10:15 pm


      mpt, I too went to a very fundamental church until the age of 18 (try Fundamental Baptist Tabernacle for a church name!). I did not find it to be psychotic, abusive, or destructive in any way. Yes, the thinking was narrow, and we were not encouraged to think for ourselves. The church still prides itself on being “old-fashioned”–using the KJV Bible and singing the old hymns. But the people were loving and kind, very committed to evangelism and missions, and the Bible teaching was expository and deep. Because of my Sunday School years there as a kid, I have a knowledge of Scripture that surpasses almost everyone else’s in every Bible study I attend; and because of its separatist views, I stayed out of trouble as a teenager. I choose to believe that it built my character when I said No to activities that my school friends went to. At the age of 18, I attended a conservative Christian liberal arts college with students from a variety of denominations; that experience opened my eyes! Would I go back to that childhood church?–no, because I prefer to be in an environment where I can question and where a variety of viewpoints are accepted. But I thank God for being brought up in that church because it’s where I met Him!



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        Matthew Paul Turner

        posted May 21, 2010 at 10:24 pm


        Glad your experience was better than mine. Did you go to the school, too? I think that makes a big difference.

        Either way, the “Jesus” I asked into my heart about 15 times as a child wasn’t the real Jesus in my opinion… he wasn’t a savior, that’s for sure.



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DebbieInIllinois

posted May 21, 2010 at 1:38 pm


MPT: I relate to over 14 years of that myself. Of course, now I go to an Episcopal church, so I’m probably lost beyond hope.



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    KatR

    posted May 21, 2010 at 2:37 pm


    LOL, same story here, Debbie!



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Kass

posted May 21, 2010 at 1:39 pm


He’s gotta watch those shows. He got all the names right. REAL IFB pastors spin the titles of those shows like, “American Idolatry” or “Dancing With the Perverts” or something.



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    Matthew Paul Turner

    posted May 21, 2010 at 1:50 pm


    Hahaha! So true…

    As the World Burns



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@nicolewick

posted May 21, 2010 at 1:41 pm


I’m totally bummed that he removed the peeing sitting down video from YouTube. I never saw it :(



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Jason

posted May 21, 2010 at 1:43 pm


“16 There are six things that the Lord hates,
seven that are an abomination to him:
17 haughty eyes, a lying tongue,
and hands that shed innocent blood,
18 a heart that devises wicked plans,
feet that make haste to run to evil,
19 a false witness who breathes out lies,
and one who sows discord among brothers.”

That’s Proverbs 6:16-19.

From my count, he violated four of the seven.



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Jordan

posted May 21, 2010 at 1:52 pm


My favorite part… he doesn’t even ask the dude’s name until 6:38 minutes into the video.



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Mike

posted May 21, 2010 at 2:13 pm


I was about to say that, and he didn’t ask him if he was already saved. He left out the whole following Jesus part to…



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Dave

posted May 21, 2010 at 2:14 pm


I was sad about the Pee video disappearing. Looks like it’s here: http://bit.ly/92U8Lv I’m excited.



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ed cyzewski

posted May 21, 2010 at 2:23 pm


Soul win or soul FAIL???
Maybe there’s a book in that idea of “Soul Fail.”



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Jakz

posted May 21, 2010 at 2:31 pm


I can’t help but wish for Pastor Anderson, in his passionate (crazy) tirade to slip up talking about the fun center churches & American Idol by saying something along the lines of “They make me so effin mad!”… that would be a video worth laughing at. Honestly, I find this sad. I cannot fathom how people can buy into his messages as being acceptable.



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    Troy

    posted May 21, 2010 at 3:12 pm


    I think he did get really worked up one time and said “hell” like “get the hell outta my church”…

    i think there was a democrat or a lutheran or something in there…



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shellie (baylormum)

posted May 21, 2010 at 2:37 pm


I lived under a rock until I “met” MPT. I honestly thought this kind of “church” was few & far between. It so saddens me that there is no room for thought. No room for being happy. No room to celebrate Jesus Christ. No room to be.

What happens to one’s face at being somber so long?? Oh, wait, I can look at pics of you!! (J/K). Life is a celebration & meant to be shared. In love. Not scare tactics. What’s the saying? “you attract more flies with honey?” or something along those lines. I’m not talking Osteen syrupy, but certainly not Anderson! We are here to be a shining light. To love one another. To be accepting of all. To respect all.



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Jason Grant

posted May 21, 2010 at 2:40 pm


So… because he preaches against sin, he does not sin? To not ever sin seems like some hardcore non-calvinist theology which is certainly not Baptist.
This sounds like a textbook case for “church abuse.” I learned in Christian Counseling that this is the sort of thing a church member can sue in regards to in order to cover their counseling bills.



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    Matthew Paul Turner

    posted May 21, 2010 at 2:43 pm


    He is not Calvinist. I didn’t know any Baptist Calvinists until I went to college… :)



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Matt Miles

posted May 21, 2010 at 3:33 pm


I didn’t know Matthew Fox was a preacher. Gives Lost a whole new meaning. It’s about free will!



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    Elle

    posted May 21, 2010 at 7:13 pm


    I’m so glad I’m not the only one who thought that! haha



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    Wes

    posted May 23, 2010 at 3:01 pm


    I was just thinking the same thing!!!!



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A Sales Manager

posted May 21, 2010 at 4:25 pm


If this guy replaced God with newspaper, magazine, or windshield, I’d hire him immediately!

Growing up in a semi-fundamental baptist church, this is what turned me off about evangelism so much. There’s no way that memorizing how to SELL someone Jesus could be the way that God intended.



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Carole Turner

posted May 21, 2010 at 4:41 pm


All men should sit and pee. If husband’s loved their wives they would sit.

What could it hurt really?

I think it would be way more comfortable then standing.

It would save you getting yelled at my a half asleep wife who stepped in your half asleep-walked to the toilet-straddle it-but still didn’t make all the pee into the water cuz you dozed off while peeing-pee on the floor!

There is a very good chance that would NEVER happen again if men sat and peed.



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Steve D

posted May 21, 2010 at 5:00 pm


This guy is the same guy that is praying for the death of Obama. In his opinion, Heaven will be very quiet, only his people will be there.



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healthy_obsession

posted May 21, 2010 at 6:13 pm


haha – oh dear, this guy is CRAZY, why didn’t he join the marines? I think his aggression would’ve been put to much better use there.



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Paul Canady

posted May 21, 2010 at 8:02 pm


Would be funny if it wasn’t so sad.



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D.J. Soto

posted May 22, 2010 at 6:29 am


I just finished the book “Churched”, and I can totally relate. Thank you MPT for writing that book.

I went to both church and school of the Fundamental Baptist, and I might have been okay, but then I went to Fundamental Baptist College. That experience put the finishing touches on messing me up lol! Especially since I was a Bible major : P I went in with a sincere desire to be a youth pastor, but I came out as a Modern Day Pharisee. MPT is right, it takes years to recover.

Honestly, if it wasn’t for the freedom in Christ I experience at my *gasp* Pentecostal church (www.gtaog.org), I don’t know where I would be. I’m definitely in the process of “relearning Jesus.”

DJ



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John Michael Wofford

posted May 22, 2010 at 7:51 am


Actually, he didn’t HAVE me until the Dancing with the Stars comment. Watching that show is probably a sin. I’m sure I could spin a Levitical law around to make it iniquitous.

I suspect Pastor Anderson is doing a little penis measuring when he compares the merits of both his congregation and sermon style to that of Pastor Fun Center (who is a nice guy, by the way). Not that we weren’t all thinking it.

In defense of the sinful, HBO, Showtime, and Cinemax all have some of the best HD programming around. Seriously… The Sopranos in 1080p? If that’s going to send me to hell, well, sign me up. But let me finish the season first.

Also, how does this guy even know what these programs and stations are all about? Where I grew up, half the congregation didn’t even have a damn television, let alone knew channel and programming content! If he really wanted to pull off the fundamentalist “separate and superior” complex, he needs to forget half the words in the English language, pretend he doesn’t know about American Idol, etc.

I smells a fake-fundie.



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@russkle

posted May 22, 2010 at 1:19 pm


You know, I really didn’t have a problem with the evangelism video… Sure there were a few things to critisize (like a sing his name late). It was a very good presentation of the gospel. If I hadn’t seen the other videos, I wouldn’t have thought twice about the order one.



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    Dan

    posted May 25, 2010 at 8:36 am


    Biggest objection I have is the opening stereotype that someone who goes to a church that’s not an Independent Baptist church knows nothing about Christianity. He wasn’t evangelizing to the unreached, he was evangelizing to the “wrongly reached.” To be fair, it’s as bad as the stereotype folks here are guilty of sometimes in assuming that every fundamentalist is a clone of this guy…doesn’t make what he’s doing right tho.



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Jody+

posted May 22, 2010 at 10:06 pm


His “pisseth against the wall” sermon is classic.



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lisa

posted May 23, 2010 at 5:02 pm


What was really funny here (I have to find something to laugh about, or I’ll cry, and start on a violent train of thought-lol) is that even though this is a set up DEMONstration, the “target” doesn’t seem into it the whole time, even when he seems to be going along with it, nodding, and agreeing, to demonstrate the pastor’s effectiveness. His body language is closed, and he seems highly uncomfortable, and just barely interested.

Ya think he feels like a tool?

It’s not that the gospel can’t be presented this way. The big insight is to see how it comes across in present day culture. SALES PITCH! American door-to-door schlepping, and arm twisting. Would this pastor guy attempt to share information and a story of personal experience about a fantastic new restaurant, a winning team, a favorite gadget, or anything else worth being a part of in such a hackneyed manner? Nah! If he really like suits from Sears, he’ll just rave about them to his neighbors, acquaintances, family, or friends (assuming he has some). He’s very intense, and I’m glad he doesn’t live nearby.



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Nick

posted May 24, 2010 at 10:51 am


This guy is so extreme he thinks Hyles-Anderson is liberal (Haha!!)
In one video he said Bible College was against the Bible because you can earn a “Master’s” Degree, and the Bible clearly says (Matthew 23:10) not to be called “Master”



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Paul

posted May 25, 2010 at 10:30 am


Well said Dan.



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Beloved Spear

posted May 25, 2010 at 11:17 am


The “How To Soul Win” video is very, very familiar. And endlessly frustrating.

I have never, ever, ever understood why anyone would think that might work. If you’re presenting the Gospel to someone who 1) already believes in God and 2) accepts that the Bible is a source of authoritative teaching, then I can see it working.

Unfortunately, that essentially limits you to converting folks who are Christian already. Not quite sure what the point of that exercise would be, though.



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