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Weekly Meanderings

How about this shot? A plane against a rainbow in France.

We’ve been in Seoul Korea this week but here are a few meanderings. (Speaking of which, Jesus Creed is coming out shortly in Korea. Please tell your Korean friends.)

Some asked about why I was leaving BNet, and I will say a little more in the next week or two, but this series at Patheos gives on angle on what Patheos has to offer. Look at the scope and the topics.
God and Guinness. (HT: LNMM)
Speaking of questions, who’s the leader? Karen’s conclusion carries the punch.
School is starting and this reminder from Fr Rob is a good one.
Which also means reading books, and Patrick Mitchel’s series on Mike Bird’s book on Paul is worth reading (both book and review!) at the beginning of this school year.
Schooling and wisdom are not the same … JR Briggs.
Some recent news about pastors leads to an important post/reminder from Eugene Cho.
And a recent new journal of book reviews — The Neff Review.
Christine Scheller has a nice set of reflections on returning home.
How about this one from :mic: “This is why the single greatest problem facing churches today is apathy from within congregations, who fail to see the life-giving potential of the Spirit within them. It ultimately amounts to disbelief as a distinct act of spiritual warfare, stopping the very power of God.”

Meanderings in the News
GBG.jpg1. Did you see this one
2. I’m a bit amazed this is written as if it is a discovery, which it isn’t, but it’s still a good story about cutting back.
3. The picture to the right is a web image of Gyeong Bok Gung, the historic palace in Seoul.
4. This is especially good for those big fat textbooks you’ll never use again.
5. I don’t know about you, but I’m unconvinced that “voting” or surveys tell us much about the legality of the mosque at ground zero. Remember, the vast majority didn’t favor freedom for slaves. Isn’t the issue what is right according to the Constitution?
6. On the mosque: “Regardless of how one views the decision, the controversy surrounding the project is a reminder of the fact that while religious pluralism was a founding ideal of the United States implicit in the 1st Amendment’s guarantee of religious freedom, Americans historically have edged toward it kicking and screaming.”
7. This made it to the news in Korea … Michelle Obama’s vacation. Kathleen Parker: “The fact is, Michelle Obama doesn’t have a say in how she is transported from Point A to Point B. All first ladies are flown with significant security on a jet subsidized by the taxpayers. What is the alternative? Would we really prefer that the president’s spouse never travel or that she be exposed to kidnapping or other attack?” But also this: “Perception is everything in politics. And though Mrs. Obama essentially caught some of August’s free-ranging flak, she also chose unwisely.” And: “When many Americans are scraping together pennies to finance a birthday party at Chuck E. Cheese, the notion that a child must be treated to Spain’s beaches to celebrate her decade on the planet is a bitter pill to swallow.”
9. Elections: “In the establishment versus outsiders frame of the 2010 primaries, Tuesday night produced a mixed outcome: establishment victories for the Democrats and “tea party” victories for the Republicans.”
10. Carolyn Arends asks this: “So what works? When it comes to shaping character and behavior, is it better to focus on God’s law or his grace?”
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posted August 14, 2010 at 7:19 am

The article on tenure misses the point over and over and over again. If the goal is cheaper classroom teachers – get rid of tenure. If the goal is a robust and creative pursuit of knowledge tied to our education system, tenure is essential.
Apparently according to these authors we need education to be cheaper so should have a system that allows Universities to fire older people and replace them with new cheaper graduates to save money.
The idea that the tenure system keeps thinking conservative is also baloney. And to the extent limited extent that it is true – abolishing tenure would be worse not better as it keeps everyone always thinking on the short-term.
The politics of a University can also be vicious on occasion (get smart, cocky, creative people together and see what happens). Tenure means (among other things) that people must learn to work together for the good of the whole.

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posted August 14, 2010 at 8:33 am

Good article on Guinness. The comments at the site though reveal how we can demonize people over our pet issues and not see anything good that can come from them. Whatever one’s position is on alcohol, one cannot responsibly deny that Guinness was a man moved by the Spirit of God.

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posted August 14, 2010 at 8:34 am

As for your move to Patheos, I hope they allow for following comments. That’s something that I wish BeliefNet did.

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Scot McKnight

posted August 14, 2010 at 8:56 am

Pat, what do you mean by “following” comments?

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posted August 14, 2010 at 9:09 am

@Scot–getting notification of followup comments on a blog. At least I have never been able to find that functionality on BeliefNet. I guess I could subscribe to a feed of a particular post, but a lot of blogs offer the option to just be notified of comments.

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posted August 14, 2010 at 9:16 am

I don’t think Beliefnet offers it at all – readers have to go to the page to see if there have been followup comments. It kills conversation much faster … out of sight out of mind.
I hope wordpress on patheos will allow followup notification as well.

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Cammie Novara

posted August 14, 2010 at 10:43 am

“This is why the single greatest problem facing churches today is apathy from within congregations, who fail to see the life-giving potential of the Spirit within them.” What a statement! So true. There’s a really interesting debate that I thought would be of interest on evolution vs. intelligent design going on at

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posted August 14, 2010 at 11:19 am

The tenure question is very interesting. I do think that the system needs to change, but tenure is still valuable for both the university and the professor.
I know I’ve seen several cases where there’s a professor still working who needs to retire but refuses to and there’s nothing that anyone can do about it. Perhaps someone should be tenured until 65 or so and then their tenure expires and they work on a series of shorter contracts (maybe 2 years?) as long as both they and the university want them to continue.

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posted August 14, 2010 at 1:22 pm

So you will have your blog site on Patheos? Sorry this is the first I’ve heard about this.

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posted August 14, 2010 at 8:23 pm

The majority didn’t vote for freedom of slaves? Gonna need a citation for that.
I mean, there wasn’t a country-wide popular vote on the subject, but then that’s not how constitutional amendments are passed.

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kevin s.

posted August 15, 2010 at 12:45 am

Even if the majority did not support banning slavery, this doesn’t mean that the public interest is always irrelevant. The Constitution gives broad liberties to municipalities to make decisions about how to zone and utilize property. There are many mechanisms by which the will of the people can be reflected in the use of properties.

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posted August 15, 2010 at 1:44 pm

As one who is not in academia but is nearby in many ways, I agree with RJS that the tenure article misses the point in many ways.
However, I think one thing it points out correctly is the that teaching is undervalued, and often valued near zero, in tenure decisions (at least in science and engineering which is my area). This might be reasonable in major research universities, but even mid-level schools whose mission is (or should be) primarily undergrad instruction tend to want research stars more than they want good teachers. I am on an Advisory Council for my B.S. alma mater which has historically been a great place to get an undergrad engineering education, but some there want tenure to be mainly about bringing in external research funding. The sources of that pressure are varied — they include money pressures (especially for state schools who are seeing drastic funding cuts these days), administrators with delusions of building another MIT, and state politicians who have similar delusions.

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