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Kindle again

posted by Scot McKnight

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In talking with Mike Goldsworthy, pastor at Parkcrest Christian in Long Beach, who uses a Kindle (Kindle: Amazon’s 6), I got to thinking again about purchasing and beginning to use the Kindle — it would sure make my trips lighter. 
Anyone want to speak up or about the Kindle? What do you like about it? 


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nathan

posted September 27, 2009 at 2:44 pm


I’m planning on getting the DX.. it’s larger and it has native software to support word and pdf documents.
i use so much paper, etc. and this will make my teaching/speaking/everything lighter and greener.
I can’t wait to preach a sermon from my DX



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Steve Dunham

posted September 27, 2009 at 3:00 pm


I have and LOVE my Kindle. You will LOVE it for travel especially. By the way… thanks for sharing a great message this weekend at Parkcrest. It was awesome!



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RJS

posted September 27, 2009 at 5:34 pm


The DX with its added flexibility (read doc and pdf files) is tempting. But … Bottom line – the device is still too expensive. The benefit/cost ratio is not high enough.



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Barry

posted September 27, 2009 at 6:07 pm


There is nothing like the feel of a book. It would feel wrong to read a book electronically.



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Kenny Johnson

posted September 27, 2009 at 7:19 pm


You’re in my part of town today, eh?
My wife’s cousin has one and loves it. I got to play with it a bit and I think it’s awesome. As for the cost benefit — I think it depends on the person. For example, if you were a daily NYT subscriber, the electronic version’s savings would pay for the Kindle itself. If you read a lot of Best Sellers when they first come out, you’re going to be paying $10 vs $20+. I’ve even seen some Kindle versions of books at substantially lower prices.
For me though this would be more cool gadget than practical tool. If I traveled a lot or took public transportation, it’d make more sense.



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Gideon Addington

posted September 27, 2009 at 7:45 pm


After my iphone, it’s the second best device I ever owned.
Reading on it is a PLEASURE… it’s actually better than a book – easier on the eyes, less action moving pages… you kind of ‘sink in’ easier. The selection and ability to toss almost anything on it in PDF or Word form, makes it great on the go. I love books, love them.. have around 900 of them, but anymore I hate getting anything that isn’t on my Kindle. 1)I don’t have to ‘store’ another book in the house 2) I can read it on my Kindle, and even my iPhone (and it’ll sync to the same page wirelessly) wherever I am. 3)I can search the text for particular passages.
I don’t think it’s a device for everyone, but if you read a LOT (and I do, though not a lot of fiction) it not only pays for itself in reduced cost of books/newspapers/magazines but just makes life a bit smoother. And that makes it worth it.



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Lisa

posted September 27, 2009 at 8:07 pm


I’m a Literature major, book-loving librarian who really wanted to hate a Kindle and its digital presentation of the books I’ve loved all my life. I wanted to find it so offensive that I wouldn’t even consider purchasing one.
That didn’t happen.
No, it’s not the same experience as holding a book and feeling the pages and smelling that wonderful booky smell, but it’s a great way to travel with multiple books and it’s actually a rather pleasant reading experience. The screen is easy on the eyes, navigation is manageable, and most books are cheaper as a Kindle download than as an outright purchase.
Not the same, but a good digital alternative.



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Danny Zacharias

posted September 27, 2009 at 8:07 pm


I’m a bit tempted by them, but it may be a good idea to hold off and see what becomes of the anticipated Apple Tablet. It is all speculation right now, but one of the market’s it may be aiming at, and ultimately redefining, is the Kindle market. If in a few months it comes out and is a Kindle and then some, you may find that more appealing.



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Larry

posted September 27, 2009 at 8:12 pm


I like my Kindle, the text is sharp and clear, actually better than all but the best books, there is a good selection of theologically oriented books available now, and being able to get a new book within a minute or so is really cool. The only real complaint I have is that not all books come with links to the footnotes/endnotes, and Amazon doesn’t tell you before you buy the book. If the footnotes are linked in the text then it is another plus for the Kindle, it is easier to find footnotes while you are reading; without the links then you are stuck with trying to mark your place with a finger in the book, but you cannot stick your finger into the Kindle.



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Barb

posted September 27, 2009 at 9:08 pm


I don’t have one, but I’m drawn to the feature that lets you size the type so that I wouldn’t need to dig out my reading glasses!
But here’s my question to Kindle users–I buy books SO that I can underline, highlight, write myself notes in the margins. How can a Kindle satisfy me?



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Larry

posted September 27, 2009 at 9:51 pm


The Kindle has ways of highlighting text and inserting notes in the text. It even indexes your highlights and notes so that they are easy to find later.



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Duane

posted September 27, 2009 at 11:01 pm


I have had the Kindle since the beginning. The second generation is easier to use, less bulky and has more good features. I wish I had waited until the DX came out. The larger screen would be a big boon to graphics and PDF documents for use in the classroom teaching or speaking. It also is said to store a lot of books–3500.
What I like most are the abilty to have a great deal with me–i.e., like you said travel light. Beyond that I love downloading samples of books–I am amazed at how many I decide I do not want to bother to read after reading just the introduction, the table of contents and perhaps the first chapter. It is a delight when you do find that book you want to read from front to back, savor and linger over.
Generally I ransack books, that is I like to jump around, taste here and there, look through the table of contents, the index, the bibliography and even the end notes to get a real flavor of the work and see if the author uses good sources. The kindle does NOT lend itself to that. It is great though when you have a book you really want to ingest and read carefully and thoughtfully right through.
Another good thing is the tons of old classics that are available for nothing or a little of nothing.
Perhaps the most unexpected use and help was a few months back, when I was called upoon to speak at a memorial service for someone I was close to. I was a thousand miles away from home, had my lap top but no printer. I knew that I needed to prepare my remarks and have hard copy avilable in case I could not continue or lost my place. I ended up typing the remarks out, emailing them to my Kindle and for pennies had the address on the machine which could carry with me to the podium inconspicuously and page forward effortlessly and smoothly. It was a terrific tool to have at my disposal.
Also just this week I downloaded the text book I am teaching from and am experimenting with class preparation and Kindle use in that context–it appears to have some things goong for it but I am not sure yet. I am confident for students that carry around 80 pounds of texts this will be a great thing.



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Anette Ejsing

posted September 28, 2009 at 5:06 am


Could someone speak to the fact that there are many books you still cannot get in a Kindle version? Like non-fiction and primary sources in theology and philosophy. How long will we have to wait for those?



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Ed Gentry

posted September 28, 2009 at 7:48 am


Could someone else address the question of a single vendor solution?
If I buy a book for my kindle what rights do I actually own. What if I invest $1000s in a Kindle library and Amazon chooses not support kindle anymore?
I would be much happier with the kindle if there were a cross industry standard for electronic media so that I could but more confident of having a device capable of reading documents I have paid for.
I’m going to wait until a cross industry open standard emerges. Right now Amazon will try to pressure everyone to adopt their standard so they have control and can then put other publishers out of business.



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Thomassee

posted September 28, 2009 at 8:31 am


It makes my trips lighter
My brother says his
makes his trips
to the bathroom lighter



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Norton

posted September 28, 2009 at 10:48 am


I have a Kindle DX and love it. There are some downsides (as with all technology), but overall, it’s a great tool. And I do believe that literary media will follow the same trend as music–going digital more and more. The trend may be slower but it marches on nonetheless.
I will add one thought though: if you purchase a lot of books (especially newer ones), the Kindle is the way to go. Much cheaper and more environmentally friendly. But I am purchasing fewer and fewer books these days. Our local library (Denver) is wonderful and has everything I could ever need in the way of books (that I often read once and never need again). And there’s Denver Seminary if I need theological books the public library doesn’t have. The only books I feel the need to buy now are reference books I’ll use often.



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don bryant

posted September 28, 2009 at 9:55 pm


A hundred times over, get one. As a man of many moods, I can change reads easily. Lots of free or 99 cents books. Calvin’s Institutes for 99 cents!!! Many font sizes. I email my class lectures and sermons notes to my Kindle – though I format my original document so it shows up on Kindle more user friendly. I don’t think I would like the DX version. Easier to read but less portable. It doesn’t fit as easily into bookbags and takes up too much desktop space. I like being able to highlight passages for review and quoting later on. Bibles on Kindle are good, but my versions on Kindle don’t let you know what chapter you in as you go from page to page unless that page is the beginning of a new chapter.



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Silouan

posted September 29, 2009 at 12:35 am


I usually have a book or two downloaded to the Kindle app on my iPhone. By and large I’d rather have a real book, but it’s handy when I have to wait at the driver’s licensing office, or when I decide to go stop for a meal and haven’t brought a book along – I’ve always got my phone.
Any book I really look forward to enjoying, I’ll order in hardcover. The instant delivery of a Kindle edition doesn’t compensate for the unsatisfying reading experience. Besides, when you’re done you can’t loan your Kindle book to a friend.



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Nils

posted September 29, 2009 at 7:13 am


Sounds great if you’re in the US, but does it work in the rest of the world? The Amazon website says it provides US wireless coverage and the coverage map only shows the US. If this was available in other countries (I’m in Australia) I would be very tempted to buy one.



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Grant

posted September 29, 2009 at 9:43 pm


Kindle can be used outside the US – it comes with a USB cable, and you have to buy books with a fake USA address and click on the button that says you have no wireless coverage. Then allows you to buy books and download them to the kindle via USB. Thats a “hack” i’ve heard of that works for those outside the USA. I’m in New Zealand and I’d love to have a kindle. It would be fantastic for reading on the bus, especially if I wanted to read a systematic theology or particularly fat commentary. But I have to say, there is something special about owning a decent hardcover, and having a shelf full of books.



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Terry

posted September 30, 2009 at 12:14 pm


I finally broke down and bought one, and there’s no turning back. Of course, I still buy some books (for Scot would be unable to sign my Kindle copy of Blue Parakeet), however I had about run out of space to sit in my study — so I had to do something. I first sold several books that I no longer needed/used (unheard of!) and used the proceeds to pay for the Kindle in its entirety. Since I frequently switch between the several books that I’m reading, I have found the Kindle to be a great option. I have created several documents of my own (notes, sermons, etc.) that have been stored for easy review on the device, and, among other things, have compiled several discussions from Jesus Creed to read again as short essays/books in the future. The only down-side is that I’ve found it easier to buy books than even just shopping on Amazon. That may bring trouble in time.



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Stephen

posted September 30, 2009 at 11:42 pm


Hey Scot,
I’ve been admiring the Kindle from afar for quite a while, and when Norton bought his recently I thought it might push me over the edge. As he said, overall he’s really loving it (although buying fewer books with our great public library system here in Denver, as am I). One thing to think about is that the Kindle is the leading edge of what I think will be a big wave of digital devices that exist between a cell/smart phone and a laptop. Amazon proved the concept, but it’s just a matter of time before there are more options. Most notable, rumors continue to swirl that Apple will be releasing a tablet-like device that will, among other things, be designed for digital books and magazines. The cost of the Kindle has also been a deterrent for me, and I think a little competition will help with that as well.



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Happy

posted October 6, 2009 at 9:44 am


Wait for the new Apple Tablet



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