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A Pastor on Pastoring

I’ve pointed to John Frye’s blog before, but today his blog is especially choice. He’s defining “pastor,” and this by one who has pastored for years and who has written about it. After all these years, he’s now working out for us what it means to be a pastor in light of his new reading of Jesus scholarship and it seems he’s got something like this every week.

This echoes Tom Wright:

Pastors redefine the symbolic world of people so that people begin to see the kingdom of God at work in their everyday lives. Ordinary people are credited with the ability to discern the kingdom’s presence when fraudulent symbols are exposed.

Pastors and “ordinary folk” — that’s what community is all about. Redefining symbolic world is exactly what Jesus did with “kingdom of God.”

Thanks John.

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posted August 2, 2005 at 6:28 am

Mr.Mcknight,Sorry I don’t know where to stick this question. It is a litle bit of a track back to the “Conversion” and “post posts”.I finally managed to get my hands on a copy of your Turning to Jesus.In my reading I came across your use of the term Fundemental Contingency in describing the classic prophets. I also rememeber Van Hooser in one of his ten characteristics, using the term contingecy in describing post moderns. Something about post moderns are aware of their “Situatedness and Contingency”.Was Van Hooser using this term in any simlilar manner as you breifly mentioned it in Turning to Jesus. pg 30. It just struck a memory chord, and seemed to be fitting in regards to some post moderns I know.Jean

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Scot McKnight

posted August 2, 2005 at 7:43 am

Jean,There is probably a connection between Kevin’s and my use of “contingency.” But, his is a more embracing category of how people today see themselves — tied into a context.The point I was making was that prophetic predictions were contingent in that if Israel or Judah responded properly the plan of God would shift.

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posted August 2, 2005 at 12:25 pm

Thanks so much for taking the lead in these very stimulating conversations. I’m interested in the Tom Wright reference–could you tell me where he made that statement?

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John Frye

posted August 3, 2005 at 11:10 am

Anchien, the quote is from my blog *Jesus the Radical Pastor* on “The Mission or Task of Pastoring.” Scot simply says that it echoes Tom Wright (regarding symbols). See N.T. Wright’s The Challenge of Jesus(IVP) for an insightful discussion of Jesus’ redefining the Jewish symbols (of identity).

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posted August 3, 2005 at 11:14 am

Jesus and the Victory of God, pp. 369-442.

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