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Christ Before the manger

Christmasbackgroundsmanger This weekend we are beginning a new sermon series on the eternality of Jesus called Christ Before the manger. 

Ron Rhodes says, "Only of Christ can it be said that his birth did not signal the beginning of his existence." 

As students of the life of Jesus let us make sure that we take in his whole life this Christmas season.

For those of you present this weekend, what strikes you about this topic?

In view of his appearing,


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posted November 25, 2007 at 6:16 pm

“His whole life” shall encompass his eternal life. That is, who He was before the baby Jesus was born, and who He continues to be.
This is an angle of Christmastime study that I’ve not encountered before (perhaps because my years as a Christian are short, or perhaps because not many pastors dare to tread on the subject.)
I spoke with Pastor Robert briefly after the 11:10 Sunday service. It’s not cowardice or courage that determines whether a Pastor can tackle an eternal subject like this one, it is being able to speak with authority, as pointed out to us in Luke 4:38! Pastor Robert, you have the spiritual guidance necessary to be able to teach us with authority.
May your heart and words be blessed as you dedicate this series.

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robert gelinas

posted November 26, 2007 at 7:03 am

It was good to see you yesterday…
Your words are kind and heart warming…to be honest I don’t know how to respond…thank you is all I can say.

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Karel Horney

posted November 30, 2007 at 8:29 am

Well, as always, we were touched and taught by the message last week. Quite frankly, I find it amazing that your have found a new, fresh way to teach about a message that has been spun every way possible during each Advent season.
An additional bonus for me is that I am just about to finish the Old Testament in my commitment to read the bible through, cover to cover. This has NOT been a quick process, but necessary to my understanding of the Good News in the New Testament. I am now especially grateful that I have persevered through all of the pillage and warnings and downfalls of God’s people in the Old Testament so that I can better appreciate the continuity of Christ!
Thank you, Robert, for continuing to allow God to work through you in such a mighty way.

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robert gelinas

posted December 1, 2007 at 8:17 pm

Thanks for stopping by the blog…I have been wanting to look at this angle of the life of Christ for a long time…Lord be with you this Advent season!

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posted December 10, 2007 at 3:34 pm

You always find a unique way to approach your subjects. I’ve been a christian many years and have never heard the Christmas story as starting before the manger. I’d like a list of all the scriptures you’ve used so I can read them with new eyes. Thank you for your dedication to teaching the word and always making it new and inspiring.
Blessings, Dotti

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