Deepak Chopra and Intent

Deepak Chopra and Intent

Jesus and Deepak in Midtown

Alison Rose Levy wrote an article of Deepak giving a talk on The Third Jesus, recently in New York City.
“When Jesus said, “I’m the son of God,” Chopra tells the audience, “His meaning wasn’t ‘I’m the son of the Boss,’ or I’m his son and you’re not.'” Instead, in Chopra’s view, that declaration invites us all to realize our own divinity. While Chopra honors what he calls the first two Jesus: Jesus, the real man, and the Jesus, “built up over thousands of years by theologians and …scholars,” Deepak focuses attention on the third Jesus, a model/teacher of universal/Christ consciousness.
The entire article can be found here at Huffington Post.
Deepak-Chopra-at-the-Oxonia.gifDeepak Chopra at the Oxonian Society, photo by Noemi nin Pfluger

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posted February 22, 2008 at 4:16 pm

All I can say is as soon as my finances permit, I will be purchasing your book. I have never heard anyone express my thoughts about Jesus into such a consice and eloquent manner. I was overjoyed to read your statement “It’s not healthy to seek divinity while coming from a place of guilt and shame,”. This is my main issue with the fundamental theory of Christianity. The concept of “original sin” leaves those who believe this in the unenviable position of seeing themselves as flawed and shame based from birth. This I believe is at the root of self hatred that so many of the West are dealing with daily. I hate to admit this, but I had only heard your name in passing before finding this blog on Beliefnet, but I will be a daily visitor and support your efforts to enlighten, inspire, and free so many from the negative impressions that have been placed upon their consciousness.

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posted February 25, 2008 at 8:20 am

“When Jesus said, ‘I’m the son of God,’ Chopra tells the audience, “His meaning wasn’t ‘I’m the son of the Boss,’ or I’m his son and you’re not.'”
Well that’s news to me and to 2,000 years of scholarly tradition including the likes of Augustine and Aquinas. But what the heck they know?
Deepak might want to check in on CS Lewis’ famous “Liar, Lunatic, or Lord” argument. He points out what 2,000 years of Sacred Tradition has always taught — the claim was made alright, and that’s what got Him killed. Whether or not you believe it, that’s a whole other matter.

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posted February 25, 2008 at 8:26 am

Here’s Lewis’ famous quote, in case someone didn’t feel like searching Google:
“I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about Him: I’m ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I don’t accept his claim to be God. That is the one thing we must not say. A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic — on the level with the man who says he is a poached egg — or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God, or else a madman or something worse. You can shut him up for a fool, you can spit at him and kill him as a demon or you can fall at his feet and call him Lord and God, but let us not come with any patronising nonsense about his being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to. … Now it seems to me obvious that He was neither a lunatic nor a fiend: and consequently, however strange or terrifying or unlikely it may seem, I have to accept the view that He was and is God.”

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posted February 25, 2008 at 10:03 am

To the anonymous poster:
It is that kind of narrow thinking that has led Christianity to be so dismissed by those who do not share our beliefs. Christ’s message is so much more complex than you would like to think and must be studied within the context and understanding of Judaism and its use of metaphor and story. Yes, Jesus was and is the Son of God – and the Incarnation – but He is also teaching us that we ALL partake of God’s divinity through our shared humanity. God breathed life into us and therefore we carry with us God’s breath – His very being – and so we are all reflections of the Divine. Part of what Dr. Chopra is talking about is that we need to recognize God in each other and treat each other as we would treat God, were God standing in front of us but he he also saying that we must also recognize our own self-worth as creations and children of God. Too often, Christians are told that they are worthless without Jesus and this leads to self-hatred or false modesty (depending on how much one TRULY believes this) whereas, we are all infinitely valuable because we have God within us and we should honor that in ourselves and in others. This is not to say that we cannot and do not sin – only that sin is temporary and that God’s love is infinite. We should truly regret our shortcomings and failings but we should not spend our lives in a constant state of shame because of them.

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posted February 29, 2008 at 1:53 am

Deepak Chopras teachings are not of Jesus and should not be merged with Buddhism are Hinduism. Christ’s teachings are not self centered and man made.When a human is in a spritual crisis buddha says “meditate and focus on your inner being and save yourself” But when you are in the same predicament Jesus the savior of the world says”child take my nail scarred hand which is proof of my love for you and I shall save you”. What chopra teaches is the same self centered message lucifer preached to Eve in the Garden of Eden and is the same message that got this world into trouble in the first place. As a Catholic who just reterned to the faith,I have no problem with original sin because it is not making me hate myself nor should it make others feel the same way,unless these individuals are selfish and only look at others for attention.This may sound offensive to most but I find it offensive when others speak of my faith as nothing but a controlling way of life. Just put it this way, it is not controlling if you truly love God and want to give back to him what is not even close to being worth what you owe HIM. We cannot save ourselves and Mr.Chopra has many believing that we are like gods and that is the same lie Eve was told by lucifer and God is apalled by such claims.Please think twice about what this created man is teaching rather than what the Creator has already made final.GOD BLESS ALL!!

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posted March 1, 2008 at 2:27 pm

I think it best that all relegious people practice their own religion traditionally rather than believe in best sellers written with the sole intent of making money! Its very grand to truly believe that all religions lead to God but this is hardly ever backed by any genuine experience. A simple question to Deepak. Do you know God?.. or his Son for that matter.

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posted March 9, 2008 at 1:16 pm

Alert intelligent consciousness, need more be said?
Maybe… traditions and religious ceremony, pomp, and glorious surroundings bring the minds of some to a state of consiousness conductive to contemplation and spiritual connection.
Does not mean specifically that any one path is true or correct, just to state the obvious, any path is fine, so long as it is the path that works for you.
The manipulation of the path to allow for the building of fortune and empire and control does not necessarily work for me, but it seems for a large number of people to be satisfactory.
The reasonable assumptive argument that maybe perhaps the end result of a couple thousand years has given a religious representation of Jesus in many permutations, and that none of them are close to resembling the truth is one that cannot really be argued…except by dismissing the ‘rules’ of intelligent argument and basing a response on faith alone.
That may and does work for some.
For others, the presentation of the truth in a fashion you can grab hold of and follow, brings a skeptic or unsatisfied follower of tradition or pomp back to the place where contemplation and alert intelligent consiousness can begin its growth. Back to the place, perhaps, that all great spiritual leaders have intended. To some it must be the one they follow is the literal son of GOD, for others, the methods inspired by conversations and contemplations, and self empowerment, and for some, the promise of forty virgins aint too bad either “sorry, no foul intent, only a blatant attempt to show what is ridiculous to some works like a charm for some other”

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