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Obama Rolls Out New Line of Faith Merchandise

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God-o-Meter has learned that the Obama campaign is about to email religious supporters an annoucnement about a new line of Obama faith merchandise–bumper stickers, buttons, and signs with three different messages, featured here–along with the following note:

Dear friends,

Great news! We now have faith merchandise available for you to show your support for Barack Obama as a person of faith.

Check out the Believers for Barack, Pro-Family Pro-Obama, and Catholics for Obama buttons, bumper stickers and signs….

Believers for Barack rally signs and bumper stickers, along with all Pro-Family Pro-Obama merchandise, are appropriate for people of all faith backgrounds. We’ll soon be rolling out merchandise for other religious groups and denominations, but I wanted to get this out to you without delay.

Take good care,

Paul Monteiro
Deputy Director of Religous Affairs
Obama for America

You can see samples here and here.
God-o-Meter hears that the campaign will be unveiling gear for other Christian denominations very soon, along with “Clergy for Change,” and “Pro-Israel Pro-Obama”
merchandise.

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PAMama4Obama

posted September 15, 2008 at 3:02 pm


As a Catholic supporter of Obama, I am thrilled to see his attention to this. I’ll definitely be getting a sticker or a button–or BOTH!



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Revere

posted September 15, 2008 at 3:10 pm


Christianism?



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Hening

posted September 15, 2008 at 3:13 pm


I can’t seem to get my head around his support of abortion on demand and leaving infants to die by mothers burdened with their life and the pro-family thing? Also, might the Archbishop of Chicago be calling “O” in for a chat about the Catholic connection? His support of infanticide is even greater than Biden or Pelosi.
Black Liberation Theology, infanticide and Catholicism. Who would have thunk it?



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Good Lt

posted September 15, 2008 at 3:13 pm


I guess the fusion of church and state is OK when Democrats are doing it. OBAMA = JESUS, WINGNUTZ LOL.
THEOCRATS! CHRISTIANISTS! EVANGELICAL REPUBLIKKKANS…er, DEMOKRATS!!!



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Matthew

posted September 15, 2008 at 3:13 pm


Wonderful.
Catholics supporting someone who supports infanticide.
Can you even consider yourself Christian if you support Obama?



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gnyc

posted September 15, 2008 at 3:16 pm


Aren’t Marxists atheists? I’m confused as to why Barack Obama would embrace religious people.



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Jude

posted September 15, 2008 at 3:17 pm


Now wait just a minute here. What about the millions of us who believe that Barack is The One?
Can we have a sticker that says, “We Believe in Barack, the Uniter Almighty” (or something along those lines)?
Hoping to see a change in these stickers,
Jude



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Jaibones

posted September 15, 2008 at 3:18 pm


As a Catholic supporter of Obama, you are either an imbecile, a rank hypocrite, or you are currently unaware of Catholic religious doctrine.



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RJGatorEsq.

posted September 15, 2008 at 3:20 pm


This is the first time I have come to this site.
This is satire, right?
If this site is not satire, your readers who are blessed with a gift of irony can ponder the incongruity of a guy who supports infanticide, and who considers a baby “punishment,” calling himself “pro-family.”



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MM

posted September 15, 2008 at 3:21 pm


O support Obama, I am a christian. I happen to think the responsibility of abortions lies with the person. Obama doesn’t believe infanticide – that is a republican smear. Rev Martin Luther King Jr. was a Black Liberation Theologian. The abortion issue is ultimately a health issue, and Republicans turned it into a moral issue. Republicans forcing religion into the constitution is wrong, is just as ignoring that religion played a part in its creation.
But They also accused Dr. King of being a communist.



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Barbara

posted September 15, 2008 at 3:22 pm


I am a Catholic, registered Republican, AND an Obama supporter and consider myself WHOLE LIFE. IMO, any child in the womb had best hope to never come out if the current notion of “pro-life” holds (i.e., what the Republicans are pushing), as in “let’s protect them in the womb, but once they are born, who cares about their health care, the quality of their education system, let’s put guns in their hands, let’s send them to unnecessary wars, yes, LET’S and then let’s still call ourselves “pro-life”. There is a deeper ethic of repect for life here, folks. Now off to order some of this merchandise.



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lar

posted September 15, 2008 at 3:22 pm


Jaibones:
As a Catholic myself, who can not support Obama over his Infant Born Alive vote, I believe you yourself may be “either an imbecile, a rank hypocrite, or you are currently unaware of Catholic religious doctrine.”
Though I would not have included the “imbecile” on my own.



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Biscuits McCree

posted September 15, 2008 at 3:24 pm


Jaibones,
As a person with a brain, you seem currently unaware of both reality and Obama’s beliefs and record on social issues.



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yarrrrr

posted September 15, 2008 at 3:24 pm


Alinksy would be proud… Axelrod = gold standard astroturfing(faux community organizing)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/howard-wolinsky/david-axelrod-a-tale-of-t_b_122009.html
“Michelle Obama, an executive at the medical center, launched an innovative program to steer the patients to existing neighborhood clinics to deal with their health needs.”
“It’s hard to know whether this is motivated by the interests of the patients or by the financial interests of the medical center.”
The Post said: “Axelrod’s firm recommended an aggressive promotional effort modeled on a political campaign — appoint a campaign manager, conduct focus groups, target messages to specific constituencies, then recruit religious leaders and other third-party ‘validators.’ They, in turn, would write and submit opinion pieces to Chicago publications.”



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Mujaahid

posted September 15, 2008 at 3:25 pm


Excellent now we need a simpler one “Americans of Faith In God” for Obama/Biden.
Cheers
Obama-Biden 08!



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mark

posted September 15, 2008 at 3:26 pm


“Aren’t Marxists atheists? I’m confused as to why Barack Obama would embrace religious people.”
Obama is an atheist. He just can’t let the American people know about that, or his Marxist ideas. The truth would so alienate people, that he doesn’t dare telling the truth. I’d love to get that guy on a lie detector machine.



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yarrrrr

posted September 15, 2008 at 3:26 pm


Alinksy would be proud… Axelrod = gold standard astroturfing(faux community organizing)
“Michelle Obama, an executive at the medical center, launched an innovative program to steer the patients to existing neighborhood clinics to deal with their health needs.”
“It’s hard to know whether this is motivated by the interests of the patients or by the financial interests of the medical center.”
The Post said: “Axelrod’s firm recommended an aggressive promotional effort modeled on a political campaign — appoint a campaign manager, conduct focus groups, target messages to specific constituencies, then recruit religious leaders and other third-party ‘validators.’ They, in turn, would write and submit opinion pieces to Chicago publications.”



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Martha

posted September 15, 2008 at 3:28 pm


As a voter do you know your candidates stand on the issues.
Where do they stand on



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yarrrrr

posted September 15, 2008 at 3:29 pm


“I am a Catholic, registered Republican, AND an Obama supporter ”
Astroturf?



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Bozoer Rebbe

posted September 15, 2008 at 3:29 pm


In light of the overwhelming support for Obama in the Muslim and Arab communities, it’s interesting that the Obama campaign has no Muslims For Obama merchandise.



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Timotheos

posted September 15, 2008 at 3:29 pm


Whether they like it or not, it is a “an inherent evile” and a sin for Catholics to support a political candidate who supports abortion.



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RanOnce

posted September 15, 2008 at 3:30 pm


Sorry but Jesus was a community disorganizer.



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Paul

posted September 15, 2008 at 3:30 pm


You can help fight back, or at least fight back against the media.
Sign this petition. I will send it to the MSM, NYTIMES, Obama campaign and McCain campaign with lots of details once I get 1000, hopefully by the end of the week!!
Help spread the word!
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/womenforpalin/index.html
-Paul
http://mccainpalin2008.blogspot.com/



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mb

posted September 15, 2008 at 3:31 pm


as a catholic supporter of McCain, you Jaibones clearly lack the judgement to apply Catholic doctrine. As you should know, Catholic doctrine specifies that abortion is a intrinsically evil act. Catholic bishops and cardinals regularly write about knowing the difference between intrinsically evil acts and those policy positions that men of good will may disagree on- welfare, foreign policy, taxes, etc.
Apparently, you feel Obama’s policy positions on other matters outweigh his support of an intrinsically evil act. 40 million abortions and counting. 40 million innocent lives taken for inconvenience.
As you support Obama, I hope you are voicing your opposition to abortion and seeking “change” on this issue.



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Howard

posted September 15, 2008 at 3:31 pm


“I am a Catholic, registered Republican, AND an Obama supporter and consider myself WHOLE LIFE. IMO, any child in the womb had best hope to never come out if the current notion of “pro-life” holds”
So Barbara, you’re pretty much saying ALL children in the womb should be slaughtered, right? Otherwise, they ‘ll be born into a country where they might have to pay for their own health care, etc., etc. Better to have their skulls crushed in the womb, I suppose, than be forced to live a life where they aren’t cared for cradle to grave.



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gevan

posted September 15, 2008 at 3:35 pm


We are aware of Catholic Doctrine, but subscribe to those democratic-republican principles that our nation was founded on. We do not set up priests in the White House (only on the Supreme Court, so it seems) to dictate dogma to the masses. There are persons in our midst who dissent from your, and my, beliefs. It is imperative that we accommodate the quirks of all our minorities or cease to maintain our freedoms.



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R.C.

posted September 15, 2008 at 3:35 pm


Sad, isn’t it?
That Christians in general, and Catholics in particular, could be so easily misled as to form part of this man’s coalition (albeit a very small part)?
Keep in mind: Catholics have a Magisterium which has recently instructed them that “You may not vote for a pro-choice candidate unless he’s running against another equally pro-choice candidate; and only in that case can you refer to other issues to decide which is the lesser of two evils.”
So that means, by definition, there will be no obedient Catholics voting for Obama. (But a lot of disobedient ones.)
As for Christians in general, the problem is ignorance of Jesus’ teachings regarding the poor. He sternly instructed His followers to care for the poor **out of their own wealth**. Not once did He advocate taking money by force from the person who rightfully earned it, to give to the poor, if the person who earned it wouldn’t voluntarily donate it.
In fact, there’s a prominent story (“the rich young man/ruler”) in which Jesus tells a wealthy man to sell all he has, give the proceeds to the poor, and to come follow Him. The wealthy young man was unwilling and “went away sad.” And Jesus…did what? He let him go.
In short, if all the leftists who advocate entitlement programs would just remove all entitlement programs from the Federal budget and, instead, give 10-20% of their pre-tax income to assist the poor in their area (instead of the measly 3% or less they usually give), there’d be no more poor. In other words, if they were marginally obedient to Christ, the problem would be solved.
And there’d be no more class-resentment for leftist politicians to whip up when running for election. But then, perhaps that’s why they never do it.



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Matt Garrett

posted September 15, 2008 at 3:35 pm


Catholics for Obama, because God doesn’t get the whole abortion thing.



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mb

posted September 15, 2008 at 3:41 pm


gevan brings up the “don’t force my beliefs on others” line.
so we shouldn’t push the “thou shalt not murder” upon others? its just their personal beliefs and none of my business right?
here’s the problem with that moral relativism argument: we all agree that human life should be granted certain inalienable rights (until a human abuses said rights). and modern science has shown that life begins at conception (egg and sperm unite to create a new human being). yet you don’t want to give this new innocent human life basic human rights?



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curious

posted September 15, 2008 at 3:44 pm


You would think that a letter sent out from the Deputy Director of Religous Affairs for Obama’s campaign to other Christians would include a more “spiritual” salutation than “Take good care”. I don’t know…maybe “Blessings” or “God Bless”, etc…or that they could spell the word religious correctly!



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mb

posted September 15, 2008 at 3:45 pm


protecting individual human rights is not just Catholic dogma- it is the VERY PRINCIPLE THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED ON!
Forcing people to go to mass- that’s forcing your beliefs.
Forcing people not to take contraception- that’s forcing your beliefs.
Forcing people to kneel and pray the rosary- that’s forcing your beliefs.
Forcing people to say “there is no God but Allah and Muhammed is his prophet”- that’s forcing your beliefs.
Protecting innocent human life- that’s just common sense.



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mary

posted September 15, 2008 at 3:47 pm


I am a Lutherans for Obama. I am pro life and pro choice because realize the necessity in our diverse nation. Obams truly lives his religion to the core of his being. ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind is the greatest commandment and to love your neighbor as your self is the second.” Obama lack of vindictiveness, forgiving nature and his committment to the humankind shows that he takes these commandments very seriously. I have noted that he is profoundly introspective and doesn’t just take a few grandstanding positions that people have labeled Christian as though this is what Jesus was (and is!) all about.



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Sami

posted September 15, 2008 at 3:49 pm


Jesus is very clear in the New Testament that we will be JUDGED by the way we have treated ‘these, the least’ in our communities.
Even beyond the Abortion/Infanticide Issue, just look at the CHARITY that the Obama’s and the Biden’s have shown (as all people of Faith should be glad to do to show God’s Love and to live up to Jesus’ instructions).
Out of their +Million Dollars income, the Obama’s gave to charity, gulp, LESS THAN 1%!!!!
And the Biden’s did even worse!!! They gave as little as $300.00 a year!!! Most Christians I know give more than that in one month!!!
Words are cheap. It’s easy to preach to others what they should be doing. The hard part is living up to it yourself.
The McCain’s gave almost 30% of their income to Charity, not to mention the ‘hands-on’ work that Cindy has been doing for the last 20+ years and the child they adopted and raised as their own.
I have heard nothing of any Charitable work from Jill Biden or Michelle Obama, and yet THEIR Party is supposed to be the one that puts the needs of the hurting and the poor, FIRST. The TRUTH is, their works show that they have put THEIR OWN Families First, all the while blaming the Republicans and the McCains as ‘not caring and not being aware.’
I say, look at the RECORD. “By their Works ye shall know them.”



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Bob

posted September 15, 2008 at 3:49 pm


Howard,
Let me get this straight – who is responsible to “care for” someone “from cradle to grave” – Barack Obama? The federal government? You can’t be serious.



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Martha

posted September 15, 2008 at 3:50 pm


Are we really researching the candidates, or we going by the sound bites?
Do you know where the candidates stand on human issues such as the economy, education, and health care?
1) the economy is on the verge of a recession (if we’re not there already)
2) Collapse of banks because Federal regulators were in cahoots with the banks themselves.
3) We are falling behind in the world in education. The rest of the world goes to school an average of 200 days a year; here it is about 180 days.
4) Are we encouraging education, or paying lip service? Government officials are pulling money from education to fund other private businesses or sports teams instead of building for the long term.
5) Student educations is so high, and to become a doctor or an engineer (good professions), they must use student loans, no more grants available because a certain party took them away. Those student loans come from the private sector, private banks, which by the time the student graduates he owes HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of dollars.
6) Get sick with our current health care system, and loose your home.
7) How can a couple afford a home? At 28 years old they are still paying student loans, and to make it work will get a adjustable rate mortgage, then what? What is happening now, they loose it all.
8) We all want parents to be responsible for their children. What in heaven’s name are any of the above mentioned items doing that? Better do your homework instead of loving your life partner, because you cannot afford a child.
If something does not change with a solid plan, where are we going to end up?
I will vote Obama!



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Jon

posted September 15, 2008 at 3:51 pm


If abortion becomes illegal in the United States wealthy people will simply fly to other countries to have abortions performed and poor people will be denied safe abortions here. Furthermore, according to government statistics, after the Roe v. Wade decision the percentage of pregnancies ending in abortion rose just 1%. This shows that the governments’ law enforcement powers to control abortions are pathetic. Every abortion is a tragedy, but is outlawing abortion really the best way to address this issue?



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Tom

posted September 15, 2008 at 3:51 pm


I believe people are finally seeing through Obama’s smokescreens and realizing what a Hollow Man he is.
For infanticide of babies who survive abortion.
For turning the USA into a depressed socialist state that won’t be able to generate the GDP for us to help the poor.
For robbing from those who produce to give to those who don’t.
He stands for greed of the big government kind.
I’m Catholic and I’m voting for McCain cause he is not for killing an innocent life like Sarah’s son Trig.
Any Catholic who votes for Obama will be faced in the next life trying to explain to all those souls whose bodies were aborted why they did nothing as the genocide continued.



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mb

posted September 15, 2008 at 3:51 pm


Note to Mary: “Pro-life” and “Pro-choice” are mutually exclusive terms.
I think you may want to meditate more on the concepts of love and “loving your neighbor as yourself”. Specifically on how killing an unborn child encompasses the totality of “love”.



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Menley

posted September 15, 2008 at 3:55 pm


Melinda Henneberger was the first to place an order!



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Paul A'Barge

posted September 15, 2008 at 4:01 pm


I want a T-shirt that says “Obama is a Muslim”.



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Thelma Webster

posted September 15, 2008 at 4:02 pm


I think this is great. Obama is correct when he said “Just because I’m Pro-Choice doesn’t mean I’m NOT Pro-life; I have to protect people’s CIVIL RIGHTS.”
I am a Christian and feels that abortion is wrong and marriage is between a man and a woman. But I don’t force that on anyone else who thinks otherwise. Everyone has their beliefs and that is mine. I am not to judge anyone for their religious beliefs; I am to love them unconditionally and let God do the judging.
Judge not lest we be judged.
Abortion can be forgiven just like any other sin and should not be mandated by the government.
Obama/Biden



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mb

posted September 15, 2008 at 4:05 pm


I want a T-shirt that says “Abortion: Feel the Love!”



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vicky

posted September 15, 2008 at 4:06 pm


To the last writer, you wrote “By their Works ye shall know them”, you might be correct. But listen, McCain earns more than Obama, “to whom much is given much is expected”. If McCain earn more and gave 30%, please draw the line yourself. They can affort to adopted a child because they are old and need the young ones around them for domestic matters.



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mb

posted September 15, 2008 at 4:07 pm


To Thelma: Interesting that people feel protecting individual human rights is a religious issue.



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Martha

posted September 15, 2008 at 4:08 pm


The Lord gave us Free will, it does not mean that we are not tempted. He put the forbidden fruit and told man not to eat from it. If abortion exists and it is an abomination, it is used, it is because we fail to follow him. We have failed as human beings to respect each other and life. Because it exists, does not mean we have to use it. Where are we in loving our families instead of money. Where are we in respecting women respecting themselves and their bodies? Where are we in men respecting women. Freedom comes at a price called responsibility for ourselves and each other.



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tim

posted September 15, 2008 at 4:11 pm


“Sen. Obama himself is talented, resourceful and compelling” amazing how everyone has to make sure to say that obama is “talented” capable” etc. Every time you read an article you always read the obligatory “Obama is smart, capable, handles himself well” disclaimer
Its soooo affirmative action and everyone is scared to say what they think. This guy is an empty suit. Take away the teleprompter and he sounds like a 4th grader stumbling and bumbling with no coherent or intelligent sentences. This man has done nothing. He has never run anything. Not a city government, not a state government, not a business and not even a lemonade stand. Amazing how this country has allowed political correctness to run amok. You are all morons and you deserve what you get!
I want to see a movement of “change” where someone will get up and say enough. How did we let this poster hanger become nominated. This emperor has no clothes!!! For crying out loud this guy has done nothing. I know 25 year olds that have 5 feet longer resumes then this guy. I know 30 year olds who run billion dollar funds or companies and make real decisions. And because of white liberal guilt we are going to ruin a country that didn’t even make it to its 300th birthday?! Is the world going insane?! It feels like the twilight zone.
Come on citizens drop your play station get off of Facebook and grow up and make mature decisions. This isn’t a people’s magazine contest this is about your future and your kids future. Are the same people who track Lindsay lohans every move going to decide the direction of this country?
Stop running after empty celebrities and learn what’s at stake! Unfortunately a lot of this country has turned into a video game playing, facebook surfing, text messaging sending, celebrity chasing bunch of immature kids.



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frank

posted September 15, 2008 at 4:12 pm


One act of abortion or two, God is merciful, if you wanna take the risk. But Communism for America? Alinsky-Ayers-ACORN-Annenberg-Woods-Black Liberation Theology-Chicago politics-Rezko-Buying voters with philantropic funds-Buying church votes with money for Wright and Pfleger and friends, People Organizing, multiple voter registration, character assassination. Why not vote for Castro?
Obama is an insecure man who never disagrees with the progressive left, nor lefty Europe and dictators for that matter.
Hillary is a good girl in comparison.



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mb

posted September 15, 2008 at 4:14 pm


are you a different Martha than the one above?



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Thelma Webster

posted September 15, 2008 at 4:15 pm


To: mb
As far as the Right Wing Conservatives and the Right Wing candidates are concerned, it is a regilious issue.



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Fred Pennsylvania

posted September 15, 2008 at 4:21 pm


You can be a Catholic. Or you can be for Obama. You cannot be both without turning your back on the tenets of your faith … and that’s not any kind of Catholic in my book (nor in the Good Book, either, which is the one that truly counts).



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mb

posted September 15, 2008 at 4:29 pm


To Thelma: Surely for (practicing) Christians it is both a human rights issue and a religious one (the Christian concept of Love).
Are you arguing that b/c fundamental human rights come into accord with Christian teaching, abortion should be legal lest we appear to be promoting a religion?



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Scruffy.

posted September 15, 2008 at 4:31 pm


As a Christian who is pro life, I must ask this simple question. When we have a pro choice congress, (Republicans as when as Democrats) Why do you think that electing a pro life candidate will make a difference? If that is the only reason that you support John (Flip-flop) McCain and Sarah Palin, then you are wasting your vote.
Many of us Christians are looking at the really big picture. We see that jobs, economy, energy, conservation and global warming and the unjust war in Iraq are issues that matter the most and we see that John McCain’s plan is more of the same, more of the blame and more of the shame.
Yes, I am a believer for Obama. The Religious Demagogues of the Far Right will not sway me from my resolve to protect my country from Theocratic Zealots with one agenda.



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KC

posted September 15, 2008 at 4:37 pm


Hitler was a community organizer. I know Jesus Christ, and believe me, Barack, you’re no Jesus Christ.



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mb

posted September 15, 2008 at 4:38 pm


To Scruffy: So you feel that b/c abortion will likely never go away, we should do nothing?
John “Flip-flop” McCain- keeping with religious themes: pull the plank out of Obama’s eye first?
You round out the issues with a powerful argument: “more of the same, more of the blame, and more of the shame.” I hope you (and Barack in the debates) continue this line of argument until the election. I’m glad you see not just the “big picture” but the “really big picture”- 40 million and counting.
And what is the “one agenda” you refer to?



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WDITAP

posted September 15, 2008 at 4:40 pm


“You can be a Catholic. Or you can be for Obama. You cannot be both without turning your back on the tenets of your faith.”
Who died and elected you Pope?



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Thelma Webster

posted September 15, 2008 at 4:40 pm


To: mb
I’m not arguing that abortion should be legal or illegal. It is not my or anyone else’s right or decision to say what a woman should decide.
Everyone’s faith is not my faith. Again, I will not judge another. As a (practicing) Christian I am called to love not judge. The ultimate judge will come form the JUDGE.



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Douglas Johnson

posted September 15, 2008 at 4:42 pm


To really get the word out regarding the Obama record and agenda to the faith communities, they need a broader range of bumper stickers. Since God-O-Meter reports that the campaign has more such gear in the works, here are a few suggestions:
Another Believer for Barack
and Partial-Birth Abortion
Catholics Who Want Barack
and the Freedom of Choice Act
Tax-Funded Abortion
We Can Believe In:
Obama 2008
Re-legalize Partial-Birth Abortion –
Obama-Biden in 2008
Another Born-Again Believer
Against Born-Alive Infants Protection
Faith. Hope. Change.
Partial-birth abortion.
Obama 2008



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Jason

posted September 15, 2008 at 4:42 pm


My faith encompasses more than just abortion and gay marriage. I’m a Believer for Barack and I refuse to let one hot button issue define me. My faith as a whole tells me to vote for Barack.



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TMo

posted September 15, 2008 at 4:47 pm


I love God and I love Obama!! Woot!!



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Tera

posted September 15, 2008 at 4:50 pm


As a Christian (life long) I believe that abortion is wrong. Based on my faith. However, the United States of America is not a theocracy. It is not up to me to impose my beliefs on another individual. I believe that we are all inherently pro-life. I don’t think anyone is jumping up and down and having a bbq “abortion” party. It’s a deeply personal choice. It’s not up to me to take another woman’s choice away. I consider myself pro-life and pro-choice. It’s also not up to me to define someone else as not a Christian for making a choice that I don’t agree with. We need to stop condemning folks and really show the love that Jesus showed.



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mb

posted September 15, 2008 at 4:52 pm


To Thelma: thank you for conversing with me.
I understand and agree with your sentiment on not judging others. However, the faith you are describing is a laissez-faire version of Christianity. Christ called his followers to “do unto others as you would have done to you”, “love your neighbor as yourself”, protect the weakest among us, etc. Christ asked his followers not to judge others but also not to sit on the sidelines- we are called to do what is right and stand up for what is right peaceably and respectfully.
This all has much to do with the “condemn the sin, not the sinner” idea. I condemn abortion- it is evil- but I don’t and have never condemned any individual who has had one. If you feel you cannot condemn an evil act without condemning the person, so be it- but i think you are making a mistake.



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rose london

posted September 15, 2008 at 4:54 pm


i love God and God loves Obamabidden.yyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeppppppyyyyyyyyyyy.



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Teri

posted September 15, 2008 at 4:58 pm


I’m a Christian and for Obama…. I do believe like he does that we are our brothers keepers. I try to live doing unto to others. I am pro life and it doesn’t end when the child is born. We should all care if a child goes hungry at night. We should want all to get a great education!
Go Obama!



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mb

posted September 15, 2008 at 5:04 pm


To Jason:
Implicit in your statement is the belief that people of faith who support McCain only care about abortion and gay marriage. That’s just ridiculous.
The reason you support Barack is on other issues that people of faith and men of goodwill can disagree on- what is the best way to help the poor? what constitutes a just war? what is a just tax plan? what is a just healthcare policy? what sacrifice must be demand from others while still respecting individual rights and personal responsibility?
We of the conservative bent see the same questions you do, but we arrive at different conclusions. Don’t pretend that that means you can ignore something intrinsically evil like abortion and proclaim conservative Christians as ignorant of other social issues.



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Thelma Webster

posted September 15, 2008 at 5:10 pm


To: mb
I too thank you for conversing with me. However, do you not think that lying, stealing, gossiping, hating, bigotry, cheating…….so on and so forth….is evil? All these are also evil acts and I surely condemn as well. One does not override the other. There is no big sin and no little sin. All sin is sin-none is greater. If you look at one issue you, you also have to look at other issues.
Yes, we are to speak out on our beliefs and condemn acts of evil. But if you speak out on one issue, you have to speak out on the others. We have all fallen short of God’s Glory—not just the one who has had an abortion or having an abortion.
Abortion shouldn’t be mandated by the Government. If the government makes the decision that a woman cannot have an abortion and that woman is not a Christian her destiny is still not heaven.
Abortion is a God-decision not a Government decision.



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miteegirl

posted September 15, 2008 at 5:24 pm


Evangelical Christians for Obama!!! YAYYYYYYY!



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Thelma Webster

posted September 15, 2008 at 5:27 pm


To: mb
“Abortion shouldn’t be mandated by the Government. If the government makes the decision that a woman cannot have an abortion and that woman is not a Christian her destiny is still not heaven.”
What I actually mean by this statement is that a woman can have all the children in the world, but if she is not Saved-according to God’s word-then abortion probably would not have mattered.
You see, we don’t have a “sin” problem, we have have a decision problem. Jesus died for our sins-past, present, and future. But if we don’t receive him as our Lord & Savior all the good and right we do is no good.
Just wanted to clear that statement up.
You have a good day and I look forward to conversing with you again!
God’s Love and Peace.



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mb

posted September 15, 2008 at 5:32 pm


certainly all the things you mention are bad. You make the point that “all sin is equal in the eyes of God”. And of course that’s for God to decide.
But sister, we’re on Earth and we aren’t God. We know that killing a human being is worse than gossiping. that’s why our legal system punishes them differently.
Your last two points seem to be: if the gov’t takes away the ability to choose taking a right path or wrong path, then a person forced down the right path doesn’t get credit for it. I understand that and I agree with it. The problem is, again, the world is such that you ALWAYS have that choice. The government has laws against murder, but that doesn’t mean you can’t choose to commit murder (as you well know). In fact, that’s one of the Pro-choice community’s favorite arguments- “even if you reverse Roe v Wade, people will just get back alley abortions.” You always have the choice, but that doesn’t mean the government should make both choices legal.



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jukin

posted September 15, 2008 at 5:33 pm


I think the Obama is a fake Christian. He says that we should take care of our lowest but he does not take care of his brother or the innocent souls of the unborn. While he does not support infanticide he does aid and does nothing against it. My Christianity does not promote racial hatred like his black liberation church did and does.
No I cannot in clear conscience ever vote for this man.



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Alexander

posted September 15, 2008 at 5:34 pm


The enemy lives with us. We know who they are: democrats and their leader Muslim Obama. We see how their dirtiness and greed have attacked the center of our nation. Our mission is to finish with this menace and to avoid Obama’s Muslim project. Doing this, we prevent to hand over our nation to heretics Iranians and Muslims terrorists.
Hillary and William Clinton don’t deserve forgiveness. They are traitors. They want to hand over our nation to Iranians terrorists and Muslims.
Our nation was founded on Christianity and now our nation and our deepest and dearest beliefs will surrender to Islam if Mullah Obama wins Presidency of our nation. We’ll be transformed and converted to Islam. Our nation, America will be Muslim. Let’s begin to pray to Mahoma y Ala.
America: a Muslim Terrorist State, because of Obama. Ala is great. Ala is powerful. Obama and Iranians will send Americans to perdition.



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paul

posted September 15, 2008 at 5:37 pm


We are our brothers’ keepers? Well, okay. But that does NOT translate into socialism. The only means whereby a welfare state may exist is if the government takes citizens’ money, by force, and transfers that money to others. Where’s the compassion there? There appears to be absolutely no compassion for those who are shaken down by the government; and no regard, at all, for those of us who think that government that it is not the proper vehicle for getting help to the needy (without regard, even, to the constitutional concerns).
And, even though it’s our money the government is using, we have no say in how it’s distributed. In addition, most of it not “distributed” to the needy, but is used to pay bureaucrats to think about it.
If we are our brothers’ keepers, then private charity is the best means of helping people. And we can decide to whom we want to give it. Compare charities’ administrative expenses to that of the government. The government just gets in the way of helping people and drains off most of our money just to buy votes.



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JG

posted September 15, 2008 at 5:38 pm


I’m so happy to see Obama doing the right thing and reaching out to god, Christian people. WWJD? He would help the poor. I don’t think McCain’s tax cuts for the wealthy and leaving 50 million descent Americans without health care is very Christ-like.
I’ve come to see that all the republican social-conservative nonsense is just to get votes so that rich fatcats can do whatever they want and take a bigger share out of the country’s piggy bank.



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Nolan

posted September 15, 2008 at 5:39 pm


The bible says we are not to judge the world (That is God’s job). But we are to judge the church, and if after we confront them and they do not change we are to turn them over to satan. If you take the whole bible as God’s word then there is no way you can be for 0bama. If your read Romans 1:21-28 there is very little to say on the subject. Now what the world does id their business but what 0bama does matter to us. We are to judge the church and hold then accountable.(considering his claim to be a Christian. My question to all of you Christians who support 0bama please pray about it and then explain why!!!



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mb

posted September 15, 2008 at 5:40 pm


in regards to your clarification:
You are talking about a specifically protestant Christian idea of what “being saved” means and the value of good works.
I don’t agree with your view of Christianity in that sense.
but alas i must go. take care and God help the next president.



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FedUpWithLibs

posted September 15, 2008 at 5:41 pm


[i]I smell fear coming from the camp of the Messiah . . .[/i] and the smell of millions of liberal voters defecating in their collective shorts …[b]PRICELESS[/b]



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Alexander

posted September 15, 2008 at 5:41 pm


I’m evangelical. My vote for McCain. We’ll never hand over America to Iranians and Muslims.



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Debbie McCoy

posted September 15, 2008 at 5:43 pm


I am a born again Christian. I just visited this website for the first time (and last time). I’m disgusted by the political manipulation that’s going on here. Shame on all of you who participated. I will by my “Christians for Obama” merchandise elsewhere.



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Alexander

posted September 15, 2008 at 5:46 pm


Our nation was founded on Christianity and now our nation and our deepest and dearest beliefs will surrender to Islam if Mullah Obama wins Presidency of our nation. We’ll be transformed and converted to Islam. Our nation, America will be Muslim.



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Thelma Webster

posted September 15, 2008 at 5:48 pm


Point made mb.
I surely didn’t mean that the person won’t get credit for it. I was merely trying to drive my point home.
You see, not everyone believes that life begins at conception. I believe that life begins at conception and I know you do as well.
All I am saying, mb, is this–what about those women who have been or will be raped by their fathers, or criminally and brutally raped by someone else? Between me, you, and the walls, I don’t think I would be able to handle that if it was me. I don’t think I can wake up each and every morning thinking that I will have my fathers child or a child I don’t who the father is. I think that will be detremental to a person who can’t make a decision how to handle it.



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Alexander

posted September 15, 2008 at 5:51 pm


Obama: A Muslim at the White House.
Let me explain how danger is senator Osama, I mean Obama. According to Muslim religion, it’s absolutely forbidden to quit Muslim religion and even worse to convert to another religion. The penalty is death. So, what is the conclusion here? Senator Obama is a Muslim, an extremist. He tries to deceive us. We don’t want a Muslim in the White House: A Extremist Muslim ruling America? It’s a treason to our religion and democracy.



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mb

posted September 15, 2008 at 5:53 pm


alas someone brought up taxes, so i must stay for a moment.
40% of Americans pay no income tax and in fact RECEIVE money from the government. the top 10% of income earners pay 71% of all taxes while receiving only 47% of the income. How is that just? how is that fair?
the top 50% of income earners pay 97% of all taxes. how is that just/fair?
it sounds to me like robbing from the rich to give to the poor. and i’m poor- i made a grand total of $8000 last year! that’s not just (unless you believe that the rich stole it from the poor first).



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mb

posted September 15, 2008 at 5:56 pm


good point thelma:
rape is the only area that is gray for me. that’s the only time when the woman’s rights have been violated. whether that means she should be able to then violate the rights of the child is something I myself am still grappling with.



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mb

posted September 15, 2008 at 5:57 pm


on taxes:
Obama keeps saying he will lower income taxes for 95% of americans. well that’s going to be tough to do when 40% of americans don’t pay any income tax.



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Alexander

posted September 15, 2008 at 6:00 pm


Obama: An Iranian at the White House.
Barack Osama, I mean Barak Obama. His name is extremely confused. Let me explain it very clear. Osama or Obama is a serious threat to our nation. ”He is a Muslim with a democrat camouflage”. Iran has its own candidate to presidency: Osama, I mean Obama. He is a candidate for pariah nations not to American people. His past can be very dangerous to the American people, specially his past religion: Islam.



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Quame

posted September 15, 2008 at 6:00 pm


It’s about time American Christians got to know that No single politician can be seen as God’s answer to Americas mirriade problems of sin America has! Singling out Abortion and Gay rights is a clear indication of the loss of focus of many so called conservative christians in America.Any scripturally sound christian will know that a reverse of Roev Wade will not stop Abortions in America. Iniquity will abound and which the Church is to do is to preach the true word to save as many lost. Not to become a Voting block like American christians are! Shame on our profession as Christians! Has anyone noticed that almost all these politicians are liars! Who can number the lies we’ve heard from both sides of the divide? Not to talk of the Christian leaders who like most Chritians, I see as Liars because they came out to boldly supporting these Lying politicians only to eatback their words at some point! Our duty is to pray for a peaceful election, vote our belief and Accept what the outcome will be as an act of God. God has the right to choose a Paroah or a David to fulfill his plan for the season- Both are men and will prove their frailty even if they are men “after God’s own heart”. Give us a break on pontificatifications on who will be the best president and who is playing God’s role! I see that neither of the two fits that discription accurately! They’ve all proved that they can lie to please anyone- Which God hates. I advice that we go an our knees, pray for America, Vote our conscience and be ready to “faithfully and sincerely” pray for whoever wins eventually even if it’s not our favorite. This is true christianity!



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Bob

posted September 15, 2008 at 6:10 pm


Sorry, I’m not stupid enough to be conned by some flashy trinkets from the Obama camp. Marxists like Obama and company know as much about real religion, especially Christianity, as a pre-schooler knows about quantum physics.



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Theresa

posted September 15, 2008 at 6:31 pm


I apprecaite Obama acknowledging his base in other sectors. I’m actually excited about this new Obama campaign merchandise. I’m tired of being used by Republicans and it doesn’t seem like moral content is something possessed by this new GOP group. Obama 4 me



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sydney

posted September 15, 2008 at 6:38 pm


man does it ever TICK ME OFF that somehow, at some point, Christianity has become equated with begin ultra conservative!!!!! I DO support a woman’s right to choose, I DO believe we need universal health care for the people of our nation, I DO think we should INCREASE taxes for those who make the most money in this country, AND I STILL BELIEVE IN GOD!!! JESUS was NOT concerned about gays/lesbians, abortions, or even taxes (remember “give to Ceasar what is Ceasar’s”??)!! HE was always talking about feeding the poor and healing the sick – HELPING PEOPLE ( read here universal health care and assistance programs)! WAKE UP, people! You do not have to be a Republican OR a conservative to be a Christian!! BTW, Obama is NOT (for the millionth time) a Muslim (but you know, even if he was, we share the same God with Muslims along w/ the Jews – study your world religion kids – we’re only an eye blink apart!).



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Profiled

posted September 15, 2008 at 6:46 pm


“Not to talk of the Christian leaders who like most Chritians, I see as Liars because they came out to boldly supporting these Lying politicians only to eatback their words at some point! …. Vote our conscience and be ready to “faithfully and sincerely” pray for whoever wins eventually even if it’s not our favorite. This is true christianity!”
Yes.
Almost 60% of our “Conservative Christians” are able to justify the torture of other human beings.
Theory: These American Fundamentalist Conservative “culture-of-life-but-continually-beat-the-war-drums-and-justify-torture” Theocratic Christians could one day act as their own Anti-Christ.
Discuss.



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Profiled

posted September 15, 2008 at 6:49 pm


sydney – good post!!



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Tachea

posted September 15, 2008 at 6:51 pm


I’ll definitely be buying some of these.



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paul

posted September 15, 2008 at 6:55 pm


Sydney -
If you truly believe in helping people, why don’t you give to charities instead of voting for people — Obama, for example — who want to punish all of us?
A “woman’s right to choose”? To choose to kill her child? If you don’t kill your child, whether by abortion or infanticide after a botched abortion, that child will grow up and be an adult, probably with his or her own children. It’s only a matter of the stage of development of the person. As a “fetus,” that child is only in an earlier stage of development. There’s no possible argument about that. We’re at our own stages of development, but we wouldn’t have gotten to these stages if our moms had decided to “choose” to kill us.
Rationalize it all you want, but it’s still killing innocents. And, despite your being “ticked off” about it, I really do think Jesus had something to say about that.
Oh, yeah: Ask Jesus what he thinks about tax collectors.



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Sue

posted September 15, 2008 at 6:55 pm


Sydney: Please post the Bible passages where Jesus says that the government should be responsible for the health care of it’s citizens, or that the government should be responsible for feeding the poor. (hint: there are none) He told individuals that as believers we were responsible for taking care of the poor.
Muslims and Christians may be an “eye blink” away since the Muslims have some parts of the bible in the koran, however the “eye blink” is a million miles apart. Muslims do not believe that Jesus was God (deity), that he died on the cross for our sins, and that it is only by accepting Jesus as our Savior we we saved. Since they do not believe this they are not saved and they worship a false god.
And if you do not believe that Jesus is God’s Son (deity), that he died on the cross for our sins, and that it is only by accepting Jesus as your Savior are you saved, then YOU are not a Christian either.



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True Believer

posted September 15, 2008 at 6:55 pm


Obama/Christian = oxymoron. Get a clue people.



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Profiled

posted September 15, 2008 at 7:06 pm


“And if men struggle and strike a woman with child so that she has a miscarriage, yet there is no further injury, he shall be fined as the woman’s husband may demand of him, and he shall pay as the judges decide. But if there is any further injury, then you shall appoint as a penalty life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise.”
Exodus 21:22-25



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Uhclem

posted September 15, 2008 at 7:08 pm


Reading Alexander’s drivel makes me ask: Isn’t there a commandment against bearing false witness? Barack Obama is not now, nor has he ever been, a Muslim. Besides, even if he were, so what? Alexander’s keen mind has equated all Muslims as terrorists, leading me back to that truism that the mind of a religious conservative is like the pupil of the eye – the more light you shed on it, the narrower it becomes.



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reliapundit

posted September 15, 2008 at 7:09 pm


barack’s believers.
hmmm…
and non-believers are… infidels.



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reliapundit

posted September 15, 2008 at 7:11 pm


black liberation theology is to Christian as islam to a ham sandwich.
wake up!



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MRB

posted September 15, 2008 at 8:11 pm


Apparently Obama and his campaign that believers are ignorant and pay no attention to issues. Wrong.



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JD

posted September 15, 2008 at 8:12 pm


Is this for believers of his Muslim faith? Maybe for the Church of Oprah.



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kiki

posted September 15, 2008 at 8:23 pm


There are some truly sick people in this country..Barrack Obama is NOT Jesus Christ. I feel sorry for Obama supporters who think this..have they got a very rude awakening.



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Kerri

posted September 15, 2008 at 8:25 pm


If you are truly Catholic you cannot support Obama. He’s voted for everything the church teaches.



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constant comment

posted September 15, 2008 at 8:36 pm


does anyone know what it means to be brainwashed?????



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Alex

posted September 15, 2008 at 8:38 pm


Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha…I needed a good laugh! Obama and FAITH GEAR!



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Kevin H.

posted September 15, 2008 at 8:43 pm


You people are unbelievable! He isnt Muslim! Read a newspaper, watch the news…do SOME research and you will see he isnt a Muslim at all. Talk about waking up…YOU need to wake up!
At least he has some experience to bring change to Washington, what is McCain/Palin going to bring? An old codger with 26 years on the “inside”? A woman with ZERO experience outside of Alaska? And dont give me the “but she HAS experience!” argument. I am more experienced that she is and I’m only 36 years old. If McCain/Palin win the White House, you think the economy is bad now…wait for 4 more years of the same….this country will be ruined in a war with Iran, Saudi Arabia and Turkey most likely. China and the Soviet Union will side with them and it will just us, Canade and Israel…and we cant win with that.
Me: Army officer, 12 years experience managing people, deployed more times than I can count. We need a new foreign policy, we have lost all credibility with the outside world and McCain/Palin will make the US the joke of the world. Trust me.



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JimDawg

posted September 15, 2008 at 8:47 pm


This is too funny.
Obama’s campaign is turning into comedy central…….



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Peggy

posted September 15, 2008 at 8:58 pm


In case you think you can be Catholic and for Obama, you should read up on your obligations…youcan do so at: http://www.catholic.org/
As Catholic voters, we acknowledge the following ten obligations and guidelines:
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5. In regard to the “life issues,” no prudential judgment can justify certain acts, such as direct abortion, euthanasia, and the killing of unborn life for medical research. These acts are intrinsically evil and violate the Natural Law, since they always involve the direct and intentional taking of innocent human life. Such acts are always to be avoided and abhorred in positive law and public policy.



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Mrs. P

posted September 15, 2008 at 9:11 pm


Believers in what? Certainly not the Bible! Pro-family? What kind of family? The two children only and then kill any that aren’t wanted? Do people even know what Obama really believes and what he wants for this country? This is a joke, right?



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Chuck

posted September 15, 2008 at 9:14 pm


This is hilarious. Just another desperate act from a desperate campaign. People of faith don’t push legislation to kill aborted babies that are accidently born alive.



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JimT

posted September 15, 2008 at 9:15 pm


Incredible. Incredible. THE most pro-abort candidate EVER to have graced the top of any ticket. This man voted against giving a baby aid if it was “accidently” born alive. Shameful!!



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Bob

posted September 15, 2008 at 9:16 pm


You’ve got to be kidding me about this. Right? This guy voted for infanticide. What reasonable Christian is going to vote for this guy? Did you forget about the Reverend Wright?



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Moderate Marty

posted September 15, 2008 at 9:18 pm


Independent on the fence…now voting for McCain. The Obama campaign and followers are beginning to scare me. We need a new wave a leadership in this country – It won’t happen in this climate. We deserve better than Bush, Kerry, Obama and McCain. I am hoping McCain (without Palin) is the right choice to drive real change. I think our foreign policy will change…
me: Software exec, foreign service



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Tina

posted September 15, 2008 at 9:27 pm


OMG…what a joke….Obama is really a sick nut and I am starting to believe that his followers are just the same, sick nuts.



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Yehryte

posted September 15, 2008 at 9:28 pm


Pro-Abortion… Just like Jesus!
Pro-Evolution… Just like Jesus!
Against the Born Alive Infant Protecton Act… Just like Jesus!
Friends with William Ayers, Frank Marshall Davis, and Jeremiah Wright… Just like Jesus!
Not sure of people who cling to Religion, and Guns… Just like Jesus!
Barack Obama just might be Jesus – In Bizarro World!!



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Forever Conservative

posted September 15, 2008 at 9:29 pm


Barack Obama = EVIL



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Catholic for Obama

posted September 15, 2008 at 9:40 pm


Proud Catholic for Obama! There are more issues to consider besides abortion. I guess hypocrits have not opened your bible lately, because if you vote for someone who abandoned wife and children to marry a young home wrecker and then try to say he is a Godly man,,,,well that makes no sense to me. Wake up you hypocrits



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John

posted September 15, 2008 at 9:47 pm


I’m a Catholic, too. I cannot in good conscience vote for a man who supports the most atrocious kinds of abortion.
McCain may be an adulterer, but he isn’t PROMOTING adultery. Obama promotates infanticide.
Plus he’s a wealth distributor. I don’t want my hard-earned dollar going to lazy derelicts.



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dave

posted September 15, 2008 at 9:56 pm


When I read the article about this on CNN it made my skin crawl. I don’t know how to say this other than saying that A Catholic who would vote for Obama, is simply put, a hypocrite. Voting for anyone who is pro choice is not a Christian, whether that be Catholic or Protestant. I try to live my life as God wants and by Gods laws, and one of those laws is thou shall not kill. If as a “Catholic” you chose not to follow the church teachings than how can you call yourself a Catholic. I’m not sure that in reading the Bible that God is saying it’s o.k. to follow him only when it’s convenient for us.
Kevin H I am proud of you and the hard work and sacrifices you have made for our country. I truly understand the toll it takes. I’ve now been in the military for 19 years. However I will agree to disagree with you when it comes to the economy and foreign policy. Paint it however you want, the mortgage crisis has been brought about by legislation eased requirements for getting a home loan. As for foreign Policy if the history of WWI and WWII showed us nothing else, they did show us that a passive USA leads to agression by other nations against weaker countries.



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Fallen Man

posted September 15, 2008 at 9:57 pm


To all Christians for Obama:
Mother Teresa wrote “…in the final analysis, it’s between you and God.”
So I ask: Do you think God wants you to vote for the man who opposes abortion, or the man who insists it be available on demand? Do you think God wants you to vote for the man who thinks it is OK to let a baby die who was born alive after an incomplete abortion? Do you think God wants you to vote for the man who thinks it’s acceptable to create human life in a lab and kill it for research?
We are not going to be asking God any questions when we arrive at Heaven’s gate. Rather, we will be questioned. You ought fear for your life should you dare to come before Him with the blood of innocents on my hands because of poor decisions in the voting booth.



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JoseyJ

posted September 15, 2008 at 9:59 pm


Holy Moly!! and Obamabots criticize Sarah Palin’s religious views?!?
At least she hasn’t fused them with politics or governance.
NObama!



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RobMN

posted September 15, 2008 at 10:01 pm


For those of you even thinking of voting for Obama, I challenge you to do a very simple thing for yourself and others you might influence.
Another poster above mentioned the Born Alive Infant Protection Act. I believe the official name in the State of Illinois was the Induced Infant Liability Act. Cut and paste “Induced Infant Liability Act” into Google and see what comes up.
Also Google “Jill Stanek” , a nurse who testified for this bill. You should read the callousness that Obama showed towards her testimony. She also has her own website, Jill Stanek dot com.
We can have differences with regards to abortion, but ANY, I repeat ANY Christian who can vote for a man who killed this protection bill 3 or 4 times in Illinois, protecting ALREADY BORN infants, has some soul searching to do regarding their Christianity.
The federal equivalent of this bill was passed 98-0 in the US Senate around 2002. Even Barbara Boxer, then the most liberal Senator regarding abortion, said this measure was necessary. It was Obama that singlehandedly killed it in Illinois. Even NARAL had no objections to the bill…ONLY Nobama!



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RobMN

posted September 15, 2008 at 10:21 pm


And lest there be any lingering questions about Obama’s vote on the above matter, I submit this from the New York Sun, dated Aug. 18, 2008:
“Indeed, Mr. Obama appeared to misstate his position in the CBN interview on Saturday when he said the federal version he supported “was not the bill that was presented at the state level.”
His campaign yesterday acknowledged that he had voted against an identical bill in the state Senate, and a spokesman, Hari Sevugan, said the senator and other lawmakers had concerns that even as worded, the legislation could have undermined existing Illinois abortion law. Those concerns did not exist for the federal bill, because there is no federal abortion law….
Bearing in mind the Obama campaign now admits he voted as state senator against the very same legislation passed overwhelmingly on the federal level to stop infanticide, read again what he told CBN’s David Brody only last night:
Well and because they have not been telling the truth. And I hate to say that people are lying, but here’s a situation where folks are lying. I have said repeatedly that I would have been completely in, fully in support of the federal bill that everybody supported – which was to say – that you should provide assistance to any infant that was born – even if it was as a consequence of an induced abortion.
That was not the bill that was presented at the state level. What that bill also was doing was trying to undermine Roe vs. Wade. By the way, we also had a bill, a law already in place in IL that insured life saving treatment was given to infants.
It’s one thing for people to disagree with me about the issue of choice, it’s another thing for people to out and out misrepresent my positions repeatedly, even after they know that they’re wrong. And that’s what’s been happening.
Little did Obama know his own words would so quickly condemn him. He admitted what he did “defies common sense and it defies imagination.” In fact, it was heinous.
While the Obama campaign tonight finally admitted Obama has misrepresented his Born Alive vote all these years, it had the audacity to offer a ludicrous excuse, an excuse Obama himself contradicted only 24 hours ago, as he has for years, that “I would have been completely in, fully in support of the federal bill that everybody supported.”



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Sandra

posted September 15, 2008 at 10:26 pm


I could not beleive this site, I don’t care what anybody may say here or what obama’s people say, but any Catholic or Christian who with conscience really beleives that it is ok to have an abortion or would even vote for obama is a hypocrite. Anyone here have you thought the judges obama will pick??? It is a known fact that obama is the most liberal senator and what he is doing now compared to how he ran in the primary is the most deceiving thing I have ever seen. Anyone who says he is a Republican here is not Republican, how can you be and vote for this man. I dare anyone to tell us all his qualifications, what has this man accomplished besides giving good speeches. He scares me. and this GOD O METER what the heck is this, a joke?????? sorry but no Christian is for the killing of an unborn baby, and I will not forget what obama said in the SADDLEBACK Forum, IT WAS ABOVE HIS PAYGRADE, are you kidding, can you imagine a president saying that. He was exposed at that forum, he is a typical politician, if he is voted in all Christians will be sorry at what he will do to the supreme court and judicial courts, get ready. GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU AND WAKE UP TO WHAT YOU ARE WANTING HERE.



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Stacie

posted September 15, 2008 at 10:30 pm


When will you realize that people who are pro choice are NOT PRO ABORTION! It comes down to this: whether or not the government has a say over your own body. Period.
And regarding this: “When I read the article about this on CNN it made my skin crawl. I don’t know how to say this other than saying that A Catholic who would vote for Obama, is simply put, a hypocrite. Voting for anyone who is pro choice is not a Christian, whether that be Catholic or Protestant. I try to live my life as God wants and by Gods laws, and one of those laws is thou shall not kill. If as a “Catholic” you chose not to follow the church teachings than how can you call yourself a Catholic. I’m not sure that in reading the Bible that God is saying it’s o.k. to follow him only when it’s convenient for us.”
But it’s okay to invade a foreign country and kill over a million innocent women and children in the name of your god?
Please realize not every one believes in your magical fairy in the sky who watches every move you make and will judge you in the end.
Our founding fathers included separation of church and state in the Constitution for a reason!
You want more war? You want all the equality women have fought and died for in our history just done away with? You want 8 dollar a gallon gas? Then by all means, vote for McCain…which means you’ll get president Palin. Oh, I forgot, Palin is your dream candidate.
WE ARE NOT A THEOCRACY!!! OUR FOUNDING FATHERS LEFT EUROPE BECAUSE OF THEOCRATIC GOVERNMENTS!!!
Get a grip, then get a clue.



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Leanright

posted September 15, 2008 at 10:37 pm


Obama is the closest thing to the anti-christ that Christians of the world will see for a while, unless of course, he IS the anti-christ.
This guy is a joke. If you are a believer, you CANNOT vote for a man who thinks its okay for a woman to suck out her unborn child and murder it.



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Mikey

posted September 15, 2008 at 10:39 pm


Would you vote for someone who committs murder in your name? Well if you vote for anyone in favor of the death penalty you are committing murder. While abortion is wrong, so is murdering in the name of the state. So for all of those wise as Solomon out there, which is the greatest evil, allowing somone to make a wrong choice or participating in a murder by the state in your name. In a perfect world there would be a candidate that was truely pro-life running for president. Given what so called pro-life politicians have done all these years that they have had control of the government, do they really want change. No. Move on to the other pro-life issues of the hungry, the poor, the homeless that we can make a difference today.



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Pete

posted September 15, 2008 at 10:44 pm


As a Christian I’m pleased my brother in Christ left a posting earlier emphasizing the importance of trying to be “Just like Jesus!”. I’m sure Jesus is not pleased with the Christian women who have abortions or the men involved with the related fortification however I believe Jesus is very pleased Barack has had shown the Christian courage to oppose a very violent sinful war in Iraq.
As Christians in the US we succumbed to fear after 9-11 and allowed George Bush (With John McCain’s support) to “bear false witness” to the world by announcing Iraq had WMD which posed an “imminent” threat to the US. Most of us knew in our guts that it was not the truth. But as a result of our failure to oppose this war we US based Christians allowed our savior’s name to now be associated around the world with only death and destruction. (If you don’t believe this talk to a missionary) Specifically the invasion and occupation of Iraq has led to the:
1) The violent death of 4,000 of our America hero’s
2) The violent deaths of 90,000 to 500,000 Iraqis
3) The wounding of 30,000 of our America hero’s
4) The creation of over 2,000,000 Iraqis refugees
5) The raising of a whole generation of American teens who have been become calloused and numb by the unending violence of a 5 yr old war
Do you believe in the words “For God so loved the world”? If so, take a moment to meditate on the fact that Jesus loved each one of those Iraqis as much as he loves each of our fallen hero’s. If you don’t believe Jesus cares for them equally then I suggest you meditate on John 3:16 & 17so you can really be “Just like Jesus!”. For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
I do not support Barack’s position on abortion. However, my family will proudly place a Barack sign on our front lawn because he had the courage to oppose the most sinful war in this country’s history (as one crying in the wilderness). The Iraqis are our neighbors and with the support of many evangelical Christians we have gone ½ way around the world to invaded their home country and killed them by the thousands. We share in the sin guilt of this evil war by failing to love our neighbors as ourselves and opposing this war before it started. We now have a chance to try to rectify this misdeed by voting for this man of courage and showing the rest of the world that Christians are angels of mercy rather than of death.



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retire05

posted September 15, 2008 at 10:54 pm


Oh please, Stacie, you can be pro-choice and not pro-abortion? What does that mean? That you don’t believe in killing unborn children but would do nothing to stop someone else from doing it? Do you apply that faulty concept to all murders? And doesn’t it seem to any rational thinking person that the choice you speak of starts BEFORE conception?
What a sad person you are that you think that a person’s faith in God, is a fairy tale. Perhaps you are of the opinion that government is the end all to beat all, but there are millions of Americans who have endured and survived hard times, not because the government was there for them, but because God was.
Like most Obama supporters that I have met and spoken with, you seem to know so much that is wrong. No where in the Constitution does it mention any seperation of church and state. That was contained in a letter written by Thomas Jefferson assuring a particular religious sect that there would not be a formal govermental religion such as the Church of England.
So please, stop proving to Christians just how ill informed Obama supporters are.



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Katie K.

posted September 15, 2008 at 10:56 pm


How can you be profamily without being prolife? Do the Obamas really think that Catholics are that stupid? Or wait… most of them are.
This has the feel of those guys selling stuff outside the temple. You know. The ones that Jesus physically threw out and condemned.
I am a Catholic for Life, as the bumper sticker on my car says.
This also means I’m a Catholic who is voting for John McCain.
For anyone who is in doubt – Barack Hussein Obama voted in favor of partial birth abortion, and voted against saving the lives of babies who survived abortions. He is also in favor of removing state rights to vote for or against abortion (as they did in the case of partial birth abortion). He is also in favor of making American taxpayers foot the bills of state provided abortions, which means that despite the fact you claim to be ‘prochoice’ though personally against abortion, your hands are still dirty with the blood of the innocents.
Barack Hussein Obama is the one who called babies “mistakes”, and who couldn’t define the point which he believes life begins.
A vote against Barack Hussein Obama is also a vote against the disgusting hate-obsessed people who support him.
My vote, as well as the votes of my entire family (all Catholics), as well as the families at my parish, will all be cast against Obama.



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Kix

posted September 15, 2008 at 11:06 pm


Between this and his bought and paid for media pundits comparing him to Jesus Christ I haven’t seen so much blasphemy in any campaign in all my 56 years. The ONLY “Christians” that could possibly support this man are those who practice the same false Christianity he practices. Jesus said that whoever harms the innocent (unborn) is in danger of hell; Obama disagrees. Jesus says He is the ONLY way; Obama disagrees. Obama is anything but a Christian.



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Troy

posted September 15, 2008 at 11:26 pm


1) This is the man who said “Jesus was a community activist” and “Pontius Pilate was a Governor” when he was comparing himself with a pro-God candidate.
2) This is the candidate who allowed vicious attacks on a 17 year old girl of a Christian mother.
3) Can a christian support a insulter of the faith then ask for it’s support?
4) This is a man who supports Islam and blames Israel for woes of the MidEast.
5) This is a man who supports abortion (He has changed his mind on late term abortion after political pressure came to bear).
6) This is a man who will not wear an American Flag pin on his lapel.
7) On Sept 11th, this is a man who threw his flowers on the 9-11 memorial after McCain honorably place his upon the same memorial.
Summary: Hates the USA- Loves Europe. Hates Israel- Loves terrorists. Attended a hate-filled church. Hates Christian values. …this is a man either uncomfortable with or adverse to Christian values. Who is he kidding?



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tony

posted September 15, 2008 at 11:27 pm


Mikey ,the state does not commit murder in my name and it is not the same as abortion,for the unborn are innocent and the murderers who are executed by the state are guilty as hell.



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tony

posted September 15, 2008 at 11:32 pm


Mikey ,the state does not commit murder in my name and it is not the same as abortion,for the unborn are innocent and the murderers who are executed by the state are guilty as hell.



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Michael

posted September 15, 2008 at 11:48 pm


It’s really funny, how the pro-choice (Catholic ones-pro abortion), always trying to bring up Iraqi war….blah…blah…blah. What ever happen before the Iragi war? were they pro-life? Were babies not killed before the Iraqi war? To quote above “I believe Jesus is very pleased Barack has had shown the Christian courage to oppose a very violent sinful war in Iraq” How do you think Jesus feels about Barack’s position on abortion?
Please don’t offend our Catholic believe with this disgrace bumper sticker.



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Musa Momo

posted September 15, 2008 at 11:54 pm


My 10 year old son told me on Sabado/Schabat/ that the world would be better off without currency. I understood that he was refereeing to the love of manna and the greed/pride of many beholders. I find the pure at heart close to God.
But the wicked tell me that they will help the poor with programs funded by trained thieves. Christ said you will always have the poor, but with Obama, you have empty talk.
I do not find Love in those who would not defend infants, whether they be born “normal” “perfect” or induced by a mother who loves her “career” “pride” or her lustful desires more than the cry of her very very small child. In hell she will hear the cry of her children and the laughter of the men, political parties, planned parents and other evil politicians who will sacrifice the weak for their power.
Where was Obama when his Grandmother was robbed in Kenya or when Pembroke, IL went without running water? Where are his papers written as the Harvard Law review executive? When Mayor Daley illegally removed the airport in Chicago and Obama worked with Bill Ayers to hide the truth, where was CBS, NYT, ABC and NBC and their investigative reporters?
Judge by their fruits and discern with your God given mind. Repent for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.



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Tilliani

posted September 16, 2008 at 12:17 am


Troy—
1) Jesus was a comm. organizer and Pontius Pilate was a governor. I don’t see the problem here. I think it was quite clever
2) Obama said “family is off limits” when asked about the Bristol palin issue, and has never mentioned it on the campaign trail.
3) Barack Obama is trying to become your president, not your preacher.
4) Barack supports Israel, but believes that we should make sure that we are holding them to the same standard as the rest of the middle east in regards to terrorism and nuclear weapons. As for Islam, that’s just silly. Obama isn’t a Muslim. There’s good evidence he’s an Atheist, or he’s a Christian as he claims to be. Even if he was a Muslim it shouldnt matter
5) Barack Obama doesn’t SUPPORT abortion. He wants to keep them safe, legal, and rare. He simply believes that the result of banning it would cause more harm from black market abortions.
6)Actually he does, quite often, and there are videos of him reciting the pledge for the senate. And even if he didn’t wear it I would respect him for thinking critically about America’s standing in the world rather than be blindly nationalistic.
7)This is just goofy. How someone puts flowers on a memorial shouldn’t be considered by a long shot. I’m sure even john McCain would agree. Both candidates realize the horrendous loss of life that occured on 9/11 and mourned accordingly.
Adverse to Christian values? Christianity doesn’t have a monopoly on values, and there’s more ppl in america than just Christians my friend…



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Matthew

posted September 16, 2008 at 12:27 am


Another flip-flop by Hussein. The Barack camp must be getting desperate, when it goes resorting to something that is an anti-thesis to their platform. Catholics for abortion? There are many, many misguided ones.



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Kix

posted September 16, 2008 at 12:34 am


Pete, you not only have a very misguided concept of the war in Iraq by an equally misguided concept of what the Bible says. Are you aware that Obama also voted in favor of a military response to Iraq? Are you aware that more than 50,000 Iraqi’s were included in the coalition and that the ONLY people in Iraq that opposed it were Saddam’s loyalists who were responsible for 95% of the deaths these past five years? If left to Obama their deaths would have been for nothing.
As for your Bible lesson, I suggest you meditate on the following: (Luke 17:2)because Jesus says that those who offend (hurt) the innocent will be condemned. I also suggest you finish reading the verses you suggested in John 3, because verse 18 says that those who do not believe in Jesus Christ are condemned already and Obama disagrees with that. Finally go to (Mat 5:19) and find out what it says about approving of and/or teaching others that it’s okay to break God’s commandments.



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Kix

posted September 16, 2008 at 12:40 am


Come one people. If you really think that Obama can fix anything with his socialism cloaked as Christianity then you are totally blinded to the reality of just how dangerous this man is.
And for MM who thinks Obama’s stance on infanticide is a republican smear, please check this site out. http://www.bornalivetruth.org/



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Kix

posted September 16, 2008 at 12:46 am


If John McCain or Sarah Palin either one had to walk away from the church they’d attended for 20 years because the anti-American message preached there got in the way of their political ambitions you folks who are blind to all of Obama’s garbage would be all over it. If either one of them had said half the stuff Obama has said or had connections to even half the enemies of this country that he has you people would be all over. Those who make politics their religion and their politicians their gods are indeed deserving of what they receive. *kicking the dust off*



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Feo Amante

posted September 16, 2008 at 12:54 am


I have to admit, this new catch phrase substitute for critical thought, i.e.:
“Jesus was a community organizer and Pontius Pilate was a governor.”
Is making me think of the people who say it, “Are you even listening to yourselves?”
If you believe in the Bible myth, then Jesus was a carpenter and a savior. He didn’t organize communities. He refused to organize communities. He was what we would call today, an itinerant preacher.
But perhaps I’m just being dense here. I’m an atheist so maybe I don’t get it. By all means, illuminate me. When you say,
“Jesus was a community organizer and Pontius Pilate was a governor.”
What is that supposed to even mean?
I’ve asked this of a few people now who’ve spouted this off, and they freeze up. They have no idea what its supposed to mean. Even when Susan Sarandon said it, she didn’t know. She simply gave up and repeated it, adding, “That’s all I’m saying.”
So what are you saying? It doesn’t seem to say anything other than empty sloganeering.



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Illinois Catholic

posted September 16, 2008 at 1:08 am


Catholics for Abort-o-rama? Not the good ones.



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Don't blame me I'm Eastern Orthodox

posted September 16, 2008 at 1:15 am


It was Pontius Pilate that voted “present”.



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Gidget

posted September 16, 2008 at 1:25 am


Believers for Obama…believers in what?! Obama? He’s a pretty scary person to put your faith in. Now, it is true that faith is in the substance unseen and we sure haven’t seen substance in BO. My hope is in Jesus Christ, not BO. Politics and our government are not going to change the hardened hearts of people. I as well as millions of followers of Christ will vote for Christian principles because it is God pleasing.



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Carol191

posted September 16, 2008 at 1:27 am


Those among you devoted to a lifetime faith know Sen. Obama could not have been honest when he claimed he “had no idea” his minister taught such racial hatred of our nation. For twenty years he practiced a resentful religion based only on this nation’s errors that ignores the astonishing Good of this ongoing experiment in democracy.
You can be sure Sen. Obama damned us all, as he stood with his wife and his minister and the entire congregation. And not just damned us all personally, but called on his God, whatever perversion of Infinite Being that might be, to do so.
Sen. Obama is a very cunning, dishonest man who has only contempt for those that won’t be of use to him, and I do not believe he has the best interests of America at heart.
I am not capable of damning him the way he has damned us, so instead I pray with a full heart that we are all guided wisely and well in this challenging year of choices.



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JDGOLf60

posted September 16, 2008 at 1:33 am


OBAMA is pro death. Look around we are missing about 50 million people around here.



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Mike N

posted September 16, 2008 at 1:40 am


I love the people commenting here, making allusions to being sick of the Republican Party feeling it “owns” religious issues. That has it exactly backwards.
Who supports consigning the poor to the slavery of welfare that breeds discontent and requires no persnal input by the individual? That is the democrat party. However, if you are a Christian, you are aware that Jesus taught that each should minister themsevles. Jesus did not teach that believers should allow the government to steal earnings from one, only to take their cut and then give a bit to poor people. It seems that, in this instance, Republicans have aligned themselves with Jesus’ teaching.
Who supports giving of personal treasure and time to charity? Studies have shown that members of the democrat party give far less than their Republican counterparts to charities, both in time and treasure. Also, both Biden and Obama have an absoultey abyssmal record on charitable giving. So, it seems that, on this issue, once again the Republicans have aligned themselves with Jesus’ teachings.
Jesus teaches that killing is wrong. Yet only one party is proud of teh fact that they are responsible, both collectively and individualy, for onver 1,000,000 babies put to death per year, through the horrors of abortion. That is, of course, the democrat party. Republicans, on the other hand seem, once again, to have aligned themselves with Jesus’ teachings.
I defy any person to find any place where Jesus espouses that a group of people steal money from another group of people, and then give it to a third groupd of people, and calls that moral or good.
Those of you stating your Christian or Catholic beliefs, and support Obama fit into one of two categories: 1.) You are completely ignorant of the fundamentals and tenets of your religion. Or 2.) You are knowingly lying about your beliefs and do not truly follow a Christian or Catholic belief system.
This is not a matter of the Republicans claiming religion as their own. It is a simple matter where Christian and Catholic beliefs are at odds with most of the beliefs espoused by the democrat party.



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Linda

posted September 16, 2008 at 1:52 am


I am a born again Christian and I will vote for the Obama/Biden ticket because they stand for Christian values, (including the practice of Loving thy neighbor as thyself) more than what has been demonstrated by the actions of McCain/Palin ticket and W. Bush Republicans who have ruled during the last 7+ years. In addition, I am voting for Obama/Biden because their platform, (unlike McCain/Palin), will significantly improve the overall condition of our nation, (specifically our youth, our poor, our elderly and the middle class).
The Bible says God gave us free will. Considering this, I do not have the right to legislate away “Free Will – Freedom of Choice” from any fellow human being, (including those who practices abortion, gluttony, adultery, lying, etc.). Instead, I’ll try to practice as Christ did, by “Hating the Sin, but Loving the Sinner”.



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Kathryn

posted September 16, 2008 at 3:47 am


No Catholic can vote for Obama and still be honoring God. No Catholic can support Obama and still be a Catholic.
Obama supports the murder of innocent little babies. I am not talking about abortion, people. He is militantly against the protection of live infant births (botched abortions.) Even the most liberal of his colleagues passed that one.
How sick and depraved does a man have to be to approve of the murder of little newborn babies? Obama is sick and a shameful, perverted human being.



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ipsler.gonkler

posted September 16, 2008 at 4:17 am


First impressions — “Believers for Barack” launches a new cult of personality for Obamatons wearing the buttons as they fundraise on street corners and in shopping malls. Can I get the 4′ big brother barack poster? Believers in what?



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James

posted September 16, 2008 at 4:55 am


This is such a joke. The Obama campaign is angry at John McCain’s campaign for misleading advertising, yet Obama can say “Pro-Family” and “Pro-Israel”?
He is in favor of abortions in all circumstances, and supports infanticide. He is no friend of Israel. He has the support of Hamas and other extremist organizations.
Obama is NOT pro-family. Obama is the furthest from a pro-family candidate that we could have.
God help us.



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Kelly

posted September 16, 2008 at 5:03 am


Yes, Catholics and Christians are going to LOVE this on Obama’s website: http://pride.barackobama.com/page/content/lgbthome
Turning the US Flag “logo” that he has into a gay pride symbol.
Way to go, Obama campaign!



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Joseph

posted September 16, 2008 at 6:55 am


I am simply amazed that there are people of the Christian faith actually voting for Obama. He is without a doubt the most secular person running for president. He is pro-abortion, pro-gay, wants children at a young age to learn about sex in the schools, as well as many other social and fiscal issues. His followers compare him to Christ and he sits back and says nothing. Jesus was NOT a community organizer!!!!! Please read all the facts before you vote and pray for God’s wisdom. Do not just listen to the news media because they are doing all they can to get Obama elected.



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Dr. Ed

posted September 16, 2008 at 7:25 am


“Great news! We now have faith merchandise available for you to show your support for Barack Obama as a person of faith.”
….And What examples do they have?
The Faithful: Do you have a copy of the Sermons?
The Obama Camp: What sermons?
The Faithful: Those by Jeremiah Wright.
The Obama Camp: Sorry, we no longer associate with those people.
The Faithful: How about some by Bernardine Dohrn?
The Obama Camp: Sorry, Ms. Dohrn is a close friend of Michelle (and they worked at the same place), but we don’t talk about it. No can do.
The Faithful: How about some by William Ayers?
The Obama Camp: Where did you get that name? He’s just Bernardine’s husband. Nobody is supposed to mention that name. Obama never –never- started his political career in Bill Ayers’ living room, no Siree.
The Faithful: Sorry, I did not mean to upset you. I just wanted to know more about those who influenced Obama’s spirituality. We actually know so little. We hear about hope and change, but nothing concrete.
The Obama Camp: that kind of statement suggest you are a racist! Stay on message, Change and Hope are good, Don’t ask anything else.
The Faithful: but I am intrigued by Black Liberation Theology and wonder how Christianity can actually relate with that ideology, or with the Saul Alinski’s doctrines.
The Obama Camp: It is clear you are a racist! You are not allowed to speak those names.
The Faithful: Well, if I can’t get the goods on the origins of Obamas’ faith, at least you could explain what prompted Obama to seek association with a man who planned to kill innocent Americans in 1972, and by 11 September 2001 felt he hadn’t done enough . I want to know what compelled Obama to attend Jeremiah Wright’s church for 20 years, and why is it that Michelle thinks America is a mean Country. When I put these things together I think I see some sort of a system of beliefs for the Obamas.
The Obama Camp: You are a racist! I tell you. You gotta Focus: Obama will be the first black President. Don’t you care about that?
The Faithful: You see, there is a disconnect between Barack’s speeches and Barack’s actions. His speeches sound like Dr. King or Mother Theresa, but his actions show he associates with people who think like Camilo Torres, Che Guevara and Louis Farrakhan. There is a difference between words that are Just and ‘just words’.



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Rev. Wm. J.

posted September 16, 2008 at 7:28 am


Whose gods do you serve? Do you think a cute button will overcome Obama’s opposition to the “Born Alive Act”? If you think that my Catholic brothers and sisters are that stupid, you haven’t been watching the lively intellectual discussion on EWTN.
Jesus loves you anyway.



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Chuck

posted September 16, 2008 at 7:43 am


I believe all right that Obambi is not the chosen one. Everyone is listening to the music BUT ARE NOT READING THE LYRICS. Wake up…!!



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Forrest

posted September 16, 2008 at 8:22 am


Linda,
It’s sad that you placed the “our youth, our poor, our elderly and the middle class” above the 40,000,000 dead innocents…if you support this ghastly candidate and his agenda, many future children won’t be born for you to help.
Think more than an inch deep on this. If you’re on this blog, then you probably have some religion and follow Christ. Can you possibly believe Jesus would support the killing of children in the womb? Would he call it “choice?” Do you think He believed that humans truly have a “choice” in all matters or rather they should obey God above their own desires? While it is true that God gave us the gift (or scourge) of free choice, He also made it very clear that we are to follow His laws above all else. The abortion crowd places Man’s desires above that of God’s…the same freedom to chose that caused the “fall of man” also leads to the “fall of a man”, that is, eternal punishment.
I don’t presume to tell you what Christ would do, but it is abundantly clear that God has commanded us not to kill; the Church (and science) has made clear that life begins at conception, therefore by supporting a candidate that advocates killing children in the womb–and outside for that matter–is an abomination before God’s eyes. Christ’s words in Matthew 5:21 is clear: “whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment”. If this doesn’t do it for you then stop reading my reply…you’re hopelessly lost.
If you truly believe, then aren’t you in the least worried that one day you may have to explain to God how you actively supported the evil of abortion above all else? Is God truly to believe that the cloud of “choice” adequately masks the truth of abortion, that it is indeed murder?
Obama’s simplistic scare tactic of “protecting Roe V. Wade” is a red herring…the overturn of Roe will not eliminate the murder of 1,000,000 children nationwide, nor will it drive women into “back alleys”(as liberals wish to you believe), but it will return the decision on this abominable law to the states, where it should reside–like many of our federal laws (that’s a topic for another day). Our Constitution is very clear on this subject: “to secure the Blessings of liberty” applies to ALL persons, including the unborn. The governement’s role is to secure liberty that is besowed upon us, not by man, but by God. To actively fight God’s law is a sin, and a mortal one at that. If you don’t understand this, read the Bible and see what happens to Israel every time they went against the laws of God. Read Exodus & the Sermon on the Mount.
If abortion supporters like you and “Catholics for Obama” (they know better and I shudder at what awaits them) still don’t get it, then the devil has successfully placed scales over your eyes, and you need our prayers, and the mercy of God.
My prayer is that you and the millions of other “lost souls” think beyond the charisma (Satan too has charisma), the promises (he can’t possibly deliver without taxes going up), or the fluff from clerics. Don’t believe me or anything else on this, but do read the Bible, the Catechism of the Catholic Church, and the various bishops’ statements on voting and the importance that life has when weighing the priorities.
God Bless, and my prayers are with you.



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The unborn

posted September 16, 2008 at 8:42 am


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Forrest

posted September 16, 2008 at 8:52 am


Sami,
check out your man Biden’s “charity”:
http://article.nationalreview.com/print/?q=OTZiY2EyNjllZmI3MjBiODdiM2ViNjc5ZmYxNjI1Zjg
what a hoot.



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CatholicFirst

posted September 16, 2008 at 9:08 am


Once more they are trying to buy the working class. It’s hard and it may get harder. The free trade thing is killing working people. This Kennedy Democrat is not for sale. I’ll starve before I burn incense to child sacrifice with my vote. Moreover, when someone ask what have the Republicans to stop abortion, answer them with four names; Scalia, Thomas, Roberts and Alito.



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Bob

posted September 16, 2008 at 9:13 am


Wonder what will be next? How about ‘WHITE MALES FOR OBAMA’. Yeah…there’s another winner! The Obama camp has it all figured out. Great job!!!



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Sami

posted September 16, 2008 at 9:41 am


A survivor of a seven-month abortion attempt was on Fox News last night. She has Cerebral Palsy as a result of the severe ‘burning’ she received inside her mother’s body during the abortion attempt. Lucky for her, the Abortion Doctor had already left when a Nurse realized she was still alive and kicking and rushed her to a NeoNatal Unit for immediate care.
This Abortion Survivor is a wonderful young woman now, who is speaking out directly TO OBAMA, since he stood ALONE on advocating NOT giving care to Babies born alive after an abortion attempt. She said: ‘I realize my mother had rights, but what about MY civil rights under the Law?’
Even NARAL was uncertain about the Babies Born Alive Act, and every other Liberal Senator was AGAINST leaving those Babies to die, but NOT OBAMA — he stood alone and voted that those Mothers had the Right to let those Babies, even when Born Alive, die alone.
Check out this amazing woman, who said on Fox last night, through the Grace of God her faith has pulled her through and she seemed to have no animosity, just an inherent belief that these Born Alive Babies are Persons, and she is Living Proof that they are!
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/16/video-born-alive-survivor-scolds-obama-on-vote-protecting-infanticide/



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Michelle C

posted September 16, 2008 at 9:46 am


Come on Christian people, you should know better!! Obama isn’t Jesus Christ….. Did you ever see him coming down on a white horse? NO!!! We are still here on earth… You should know when Jesus is coming back, we all as Christian will rise with Him.
Also, why don’t Obama find a place and set a date for all disability people who can’t walk, see and hear. See if he can actually heal these people…… You are worship him as a idol!! You are not my brothers or sisters in Christ…
Obama isn’t my LORD Savior and I didn’t get saved BY him!!!
I saved by the Lord Jesus Christ who is sitting on the right side of Throne Of God.
Shame on you people!!



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666

posted September 16, 2008 at 10:09 am


What a joke…
His preacher teaches hate…
He believes in hate…
His party is hate…
His VP choice is hate…
yet he throws out this crap…
OBAMA…
The Man, The Myth, The Legend….
I choose
THE MYTH



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Janet

posted September 16, 2008 at 10:09 am


Are you kidding? Belief in what? Infanticide? Marx? Socialism? Black Liberation Theology? Give me a break.



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barb

posted September 16, 2008 at 10:12 am


“My object in life is to dethrone God and destroy capitalism.” – Karl Marx



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Thomas Warren

posted September 16, 2008 at 10:21 am


Obama is problematic for Christians because he claims to be one.
There must, therefore, be a big difference between “receiving Jesus Christ as Savior” (which he has said publicly on many occasions – see Saddleback interview with Rick Warren) and actually following Jesus Christ in one’s daily life and being obedient to the Word of God written.
He has admitted to living with a woman while at college (before he was married)that isn’t the best of starts; he favors partial birth abortion (at Saddleback he said he didn’t know when life began and it was “above his pay-grade” to figure it out. So he favors abortion even though he can’t figure out if it is taking an innocent life); and he supports legal status for homosexual unions (one could argue that equal treatment in certain civil matters (health care, inheritance sharing, etc) would be a good thing, but redefining marriage is another matter.
Having Joel Hunter from an “evangelical” church in Longwood, FL (Northland)give the closing prayer after Obama’s acceptance speech at the DNC does not mean that Obama bears any resemblance to an evangelical Christian. Hunter is getting a lot of heat for even showing up at the DNC.
Just ask any Bible believing pastor if they think Obama’s positions on moral issues are Biblical. I don’t know one truly evangelical and Biblical pastor who supports Obama. This is not to say that McCain is all that great either on faith matters (Palin is much better, McCain, not so much). But we are talking about Obama.



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Fiona

posted September 16, 2008 at 10:21 am


No Catholic in good standing can vote for Obama – the candidate who supports infanticide, the candidate who would take away our free will in the name of change and socialism, the candidate who presents himself as a savior. I am offended by all of the buttons on this website. Catholics for Obama – never.



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The unborn

posted September 16, 2008 at 10:41 am


Catholic for Obama is an oxyMORON



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MIchael

posted September 16, 2008 at 10:41 am


I’m saddened by the outpouring of hatred against Obama by brothers and sisters who I assume are Christians. It seems to me that faith – Christian faith – has played a more integral part in Barack Obama’s life, both public and private, than it has in John McCain’s. When asked if Jesus is the only path to salvation, Obama responded, “Jesus is the only way for me.” I’ve heard nothing of the sort from McCain. If this had come from a white man, you can be sure that he’d be lauded.
And attempts to paint Obama as a subscriber to black liberation theology strike me as unabashed racism. Does anyone *really think* that an Obama White House will seek to subvert the faith of this nation and supplant it with some fractional theology that would cause massive uprising? Come on, now.
Obama practices faith elegantly and doesn’t wear it on his sleeve as does our current president, and I don’t think that makes him a bad person or a bad candidate. Rather than all pretending that one’s stance on abortion reflects the value to which one attributes human life, perhaps we could consider, I don’t know, one’s stance towards war? Or perhaps one’s spouse? Let’s not forget that Senator McCain divorced his first (crippled) wife to marry a wealthy heiress (who later used her charitable organization to procure vicodin so as to satisfy her addiction).
What’s more, there’s nothing substantial to suggest that Obama is a Marxist. Nothing substantial. One just needs to look at his voting record to see that.
Marxists don’t become presidential nominees of a major party, they just don’t.



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The unborn

posted September 16, 2008 at 10:51 am


I don’t hate Obama, but he has denied me on more than three occasions.
He himself said “I wouldn’t want to punish my daughter with a child.”
Children are BLESSINGS, not punishment.



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Mark

posted September 16, 2008 at 11:00 am


Obama supports Abortion and Infanticide
Catholics for Obama is like saying:
Jews for Hitler
Al-Qaida for the betterment of America
The Taliban for women’s rights



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Matt

posted September 16, 2008 at 11:13 am


MIchael,
Actions speak louder than words. I would expect the Devil himself would say “Jesus is the only way for me” to gain your trust.
Any Christian who votes for Obama should be excommunicated from their church.



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Zelda Crunch

posted September 16, 2008 at 11:30 am


@Fiona: so true. Obama has never come out and said he supports buggery by prelates. And without that – and without the risk our children will be molested by ‘holy men’ – how can we possibly support him? You attacking him is worse than the pot calling the kettle black. How dare you! Shame on you!



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Felix

posted September 16, 2008 at 11:32 am


Barack cannot be a christian and kill babies, the Holy Spirit who indwells a christian will not allow it. There is only one way to God and that is thru his son Jesus Christ. That means for all and not just for Obama. You can call yourself a cadilac by reading a shop manuel but it does not make you a car.



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Brian

posted September 16, 2008 at 11:51 am


I am a Christian. I can assure you that Barack Obama is not a practicing Christian, if he is a Christian at all. I am not attacking the man, only speaking the truth. I refer you to 2 Timothy 3:15-17 (NIV) “15 and how from infancy you have known the holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. 16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.” Therefore, if he is a Christian, it is the duty of all Christians to rebuke this man until he corrects his walk.



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Ron Maestas

posted September 16, 2008 at 11:55 am


Please check Obamas record as a member of the Illinois state Senate and his voting stance on the Babys Born Alive Act. He was the only member to vote against the protection of babies born alive. This is a radical position in the secular realm and off the charts from a Christian point of view. I dont see how even the most liberal Christian can condone this and trust this man with choosing judges as President.



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Tom Paine

posted September 16, 2008 at 11:59 am


Unfortunately Obama is the only true Christian in the race. Palin is
a heretic and servant of the Satan and McCain is simply agnostic. Those who support the anti-American servants of evil (McCain Palin) will surely perish in
the fires of hell.



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Elizabeth Miller

posted September 16, 2008 at 12:15 pm


This is an absolute joke! Any Christian knows you don’t kill fetuses or unborn (or almost-born)-(partial-birth abortion) (and then if the procedure fails, let the baby die anyway) babies! I can’t imagine anyone having enough nerve to say they are a Christian and still be for abortion!



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Mawm

posted September 16, 2008 at 12:47 pm


Unfortunately, the church Obama called his spiritual home for 20 years wants God to damn America, and thinks Black people are closer to God than whites.
But I don’t believe Obama really believes anything he heard those 20 years. In fact, I don’t think Obama believes in anything except Obama. He’ll defintiely tell you what you want to hear for your vote, though.
Keep on believin !



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ken pittman

posted September 16, 2008 at 12:51 pm


There will be those who are deceived who see good as bad and bad as good. Clearly the divide is widening. To praise what God condemns such as homosexuality is a sign. To applaud the slaughter of God’s innocent children is another sign. The most charitable states in tha nation are the most conservative ones. The least charitable are liberal ones.
http://www.catalogueforphilanthropy.org/cfp/db/generosity.php?year=2004
I think you have to be under a spell or just an outright liar to believe that Liberals are on any moral high ground.



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JoseyJ

posted September 16, 2008 at 12:56 pm


There is nothing secular about Obama fusing himself with God.
Obama = Bush



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rationalatthecore

posted September 16, 2008 at 1:01 pm


Please tell me this site is a big farce…”God-o-Meter”? BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!



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A Catholic for Obama

posted September 16, 2008 at 1:07 pm


I love how so-called Christians support Bush/McCain who are responsible for over a million innocent civilian deaths in Iraq, not to mention the millions of families there who now have no home. Pro-life, give me a break.



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john

posted September 16, 2008 at 1:11 pm


As a True Roman Catholic..not a bus rider.(only wanting the bus when its going my way)….I am offended by Catholics for Obama..whats next?
These souls who call themselves Roman Catholic are American Catholics who also believe that Priests should marry and women should be ordained. They are not true followers of the church. Sadly we have Priests, Bishops,
Nuns and more who are followers of the American Catholic Chruch..their prime mission is destroy the church from within. Don’t fall for this nonsense.
They are members of the American Catholic Church.



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Manion

posted September 16, 2008 at 1:17 pm


If a person of faith who votes Republican is a religious zealot, then why is a person of faith who votes for Obama not described with equal scorn and ridicule? Also, I thought those on the Left were the champions of seperation of Church and State? This type of marketing by the Obama campaign should be making their heads explode.



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Brian

posted September 16, 2008 at 1:39 pm


It’s unfortunate that so many people are misled.
Barack voted to support abortion.
Barack adheres to Black Liberation Theology.
Barack has been questioned on his views and he fails every time to present a Christian based theology that dictates his decisions.
So all these “Christians” claiming to support Barack when he defies what the Bible stands for is so sad. Don’t read the hype. Educate yourselves. It’s a sad day when people proclaim their faith and then claim to support that which denounces and ridicules their faith. Will Jesus do the same for you?
Or rather…show me where the principles Barack adheres to are Biblical. That’s right, you can’t!



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jokegonebad

posted September 16, 2008 at 2:46 pm


Seriously…. Is this a joke?



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kunsunoke

posted September 16, 2008 at 2:58 pm


Considering that BO fought tooth-and-nail against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act in Illinois, any Catholic who votes for the guy will be aiding and abetting not only abortion, but actual infanticide. Grounds for excommunication, in other words.
Sadly, there are a considerable number of cafeteria Catholics and their pastoral allies in the leftist/liberation theology wing of US Roman Catholicism who will conveniently ignore the above and drink the Obama Campaign’s Marxist Kool-Aid.



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Truth is Truth

posted September 16, 2008 at 3:49 pm


This TRUE believer –not one who curses homosexuality but sleeps with homosexuals behind my wife’s back; or talks about family values while sneaking off with my mistress; or is pro-life but gave my teenage daughter a choice about what to do with her illegitimate child–is DEFINITELY for OBAMA! Considering the hypocrisy of the GOP, how can any of you not be? Oh wait, I forgot who I’m talking to. People who say one thing while doing another, as if GOD doesn’t see everything you do! You all should be ashamed! Lies are lies, even in the name of patriotism! Having a mistress and watching child porn is wrong! Sending ppl to fight a war based on lies, like abortion, is MURDER! All of that is sin. May God have mercy on your souls. Now, who do I talk to about a free bumper sticker?



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Tony

posted September 16, 2008 at 4:15 pm


Barbra Streisand was quoted today as saying that McCain’s selection of Gov. Palin would not swing Hillary voters because “We are not that stupid.” Stupid, but not that stupid? Now we are asked to swallow the promos “Believers for Barack”. Come on Dems, we are not that stupid.



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Liberaldude

posted September 16, 2008 at 5:26 pm


Amazing how the GOP got the Catholic vote with their lies about abortion, an issue they have no intention of resolving. They just bring it out of the box every four years to get stupid people upset, then put it away. Bend over now nice little lemmings and send your kids to die for us in unnecessary wars to keep us rich. he GOP’s courting to the wacko religious right is what’s really disgusting.



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CatholicFirst

posted September 16, 2008 at 6:53 pm


Liberaldude: Hey dude, you missed my post. We got Scalia, Thomas, Roberts and Alito from the GOP. One more and the debt is paid.



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Drew Nicholas

posted September 16, 2008 at 8:37 pm


The “Born Alive Infant Protection Act” tempest is a ruse and a lie. The law was redundant. The person pushing this particular lie is not very stable.



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Helen

posted September 16, 2008 at 10:46 pm


As a Catholic, I can’t tell you how offensive I find these items.



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Yim

posted September 17, 2008 at 12:51 am


Ask as many people as you can “Do you remember how many Iraqis were involved in the 9-11 attacks?” You will be surprised at the answers you get. I was.
Actual number: 0
Number of Al-Qaeda members in Iraq on 9-11-01: 0
Number of Iraqis killed sence our invasion: +- 600,000 majority are women and children. Some estimates are over 1 million killed!
Number of Iraqis in exile: 2,200,000
God bless America? Who are we kidding?



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Jon The Mechanic

posted September 17, 2008 at 7:56 am


Yim,
I have 3 things to ask.
Where did you get the 600,000+ number? If it was the Lancet “survey”, than that number is HIGHLY questionable. Their methodology for taking a poll was very poor, in the minds of many professional pollsters.
How many people were killed by Saddam between 1990 and 2002? How many families were torn apart because of him?
How many times was Saddam warned by the UN to comply with the cease fire agreement he signed in 1991 and not hinder the inspectors?
As a soldier and a combat veteran, I have to say that the cost we have borne in Iraq to remove a dictator and bring freedom to those people is worth it.



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L. Thompson

posted September 19, 2008 at 9:32 am


They are great. People should be able to identify themselves and not let others paint them with a broad brush I am a proud Pro–Life Democrat who gladly supports Barack Obama!



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Trish Pearcy

posted September 19, 2008 at 10:13 am


Barack Obama is no more Pro-Life than Planned Parenthood. Have you NOT listened to his stuttering about every woman should have a choice. That means he is PRO-CHOICE!!!!!!! The man really cannot make up his mind as to what he believes. Listen, read and really ask yourselves why would you want a man as president of the U.S. who has never voted on anything and has no experience??? Those of you voting for Obama will be the first one’s crying IF he is elected when he falls through on ALL of his ‘Talk of change’.



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Klove

posted September 19, 2008 at 2:19 pm


Good for him! This IS America land of the free and home of the brave. We have the freedom to choose who we will serve and we’re brave enough to stand by that choice. All others have a right to their opinion, not the right to be nasty and malicious. America is still divided regarding race and ONE BLACK man running for president is not going to change that! THE PEOPLE in this country need to learn from other countries and accept/embrace differences.



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Sean

posted September 20, 2008 at 12:39 am


Klove, we do have the right to be nasty and malicious in words if we , sometimes in actions if we make signs or what-not. Actually, your right, we should follow what Josef Stalin di………………… oh what that’s right, killed 12 million of his own people, Maybe Adolf Hit…………nah, killed 6 million, Mao…………….crap who is a good role model, ah Britia……………..oppressing Ireland to this day. Damn, who’s a good role model that broke free from tyranny and promised freedom to people and the right to overthrow the government if the government doesn’t protect the citizens’ rights.



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Glenn

posted September 20, 2008 at 6:25 am


Folks remember that the only person we should hope for is the person who says Jesus is his Lord and Savor and well not let any one call him savor.
If we put Christ firts he will heal our land and keep us free. Right now the media has fallen in the satans hands. No Muslim can be our comander and Chief.
Pray each day for christ to return.



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Lillian

posted September 20, 2008 at 10:05 am


Whoever is the mastermind behind obama really pulled him out of their leftovers. He is someones puppet and cannot even think for himself. I believe we should pray in earnest for our Country the UNITED STATES of America. One country under God.
God Bless America.



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ThatGirl

posted September 20, 2008 at 10:23 am


Obama is a disgrace to this country. Everyday I think the same thing: How can this man be running to lead our great country!? He has so many ties to bad people and yet everyone in the media and our fellow citizens just brush it under the carpet. Yet any little thing on Sarah Palin is HEADLINE NEWS! The only headline news Obama gets are false hollow words and the media swarms to him.
If he does win it will be because people do not do their research and only look at him on the outside….not the inside. Now people are trying to say of he loses it’s because he is black. CRAZY!!!! If this country was so racist he wouldn’t be the Presidential Nominee now would he! This man is not Pro-Life and having this faith based stuff is a slap in the face. He is evil and hates our country.
Has anyone forgotten about that Black Theology church he attended for 20 years!!!!????? There was a man on Glenn Beck yesterday that has been studying Obama a lot and he said that when he looked up the books they sell at Obama’s OLD church (Yeah notice he stopped attending when he realized it could affect him winning this race & everyone let him get away with it) the books have white racist contents. PEOPLE WAKE UP! THIS MAN IS NO GOOD!!!!!! I pray every day that God does not let this man in the most honorable position of our great country.
GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!!!!



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C. Owens

posted September 20, 2008 at 12:53 pm


I think that it is a good thing for Mr. Obama to show that he can be a man of faith and allow those of us that understand that religion and faith has to be more tolerent than the extreme christian right is showing. I believe that God and Jesus Christ set the example by allowing believers to chose them and not force me to accept them as my personal savior and Lord. For those that think evil of Mr. Obama, I think that if they allow themselves to search the scripture they will find a greater appreciation of Mr. Obama. The bible tell us to “see after the least one, feed the hungry, give to the poor and to Love not judge each other.”



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v bailey

posted September 20, 2008 at 3:33 pm


obama’s faith is neither here nor there its really none of your God forsaken business as well as palins daughters motherhood, in todays society were always ready to judge someone but let me tell you what the bible say about that “by the same measures you judge you will be judged” so keep your own self from burning in hell and handle your own bees wax is what this country needs to be doing. I’m saying that its praying time because no matter who wins obama-macain a country divided against itsef is sure to fell anyway . God is soon to return so spend your time doing whats right , i know you have no clue; read your bible like i said ITS PRAYING TIME i pray that this country can form a union where blacks whites weman and men can come together to help these children run this country in a better wayremember you’re on your way to the nursing-retiring home and these are the people whom will be taken care of you. peace i leave with you



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Andrew

posted September 21, 2008 at 3:13 pm


Media Matters Publicizes Obama’s ‘Muslim Connection’
The far-left Media Matters for America organization attacked a radio talk-show host over a discussion of Barack Obama’s alleged Muslim ties and ended up giving wider play to what would have been mostly overlooked remarks.
An article in Media Matters stated, “On the September 10 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio show, G. Gordon Liddy hosted self-described former terrorist Walid Shoebat to advance the false claim that Sen. Barack Obama . . . is a Muslim.”
Liddy also did not challenge Shoebat’s claim that the terrorist organization Hamas supports Obama, Media Matters complained, asserting that the claim is false.
During the interview, Shoebat — who attended school in the Middle East and is a Christian convert — said, “No one is called Hussein unless he is Muslim. So it is very clear that Barack Hussein Obama is definitely a Muslim…
“In Islam, in the law of Shariah of Islam, the Prophet of Islam said . . . whoever leaves the Islamic faith is to be killed,” but “he is not called to be killed by the Muslims. Why do they support him?
“I haven’t heard a really serious testimony of his Christian conversion. A Muslim who converts to Christianity, the first thing he does is denounce Islam. Has Barack Hussein Obama denounced Islam as a false religion?”
Liddy responded: “No.”
Media Matters went on to give “air time” to more of Shoebat’s explosive claims. The organization reported that Shoebat said Obama “would be extremely dangerous” as president. “He’s already calling for dismantlement of nuclear weapons. He’s already calling for negotiations with Islamists. He’s already calling to help Arabs who are arrested in America. He’s already professed to hold hands with the Muslims.”
Asked what Obama might have learned when he went to school in Indonesia, Shoebat said, “Well, when I went to a government school — you know, it wasn’t a madrassa. He was not in a madrassa school, but it was a government school.
“And in those schools, from fifth grade, we learned what is called Islamic eschatology, that the day of judgment will not come to pass until the tribes of Islam destroy the tribes of Israel, the Jewish people . . .
“We would learn that it’s an honor for a Muslim to die as a martyr, to shed his blood for the cause of Allah. We would learn that the establishment of Shariah law is a mandate. We would learn that fighting jihad is a mandate against Israel, against the West, and those kinds of things. This is even in a government school, not even in a madrassa.”
Liddy asked if Obama, “would have been exposed to those things at the age of 10, in a government school over there in Indonesia.”
Shoebat said, “Yes. It would be the same thing. It would be exactly the same kind of an education system.”



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Mary

posted September 21, 2008 at 6:56 pm


Obama voted to allow Partial Birth Abortion and then to kill babies after they survive an abortion. Do not try to tell me or anyone else that Obama is pro-family and pro-God, because we can see through the fancy rhetoric and know it isnt true.



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Carol

posted September 22, 2008 at 9:17 am


I think it’s a disgrace that he would use religion to get those people to vote for him. He says pro family but ok’s live birth abortion, if you haven’t heard about that yet you should read what happens those little angels. He speaks with a forked tongue. I am very fearfull if this man gets in as president. He has no morals and no heart and can lie with ease, this country will be in a downward spiral and will not be a free country if he gets in. He is a master of deception….



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sally stanley

posted September 25, 2008 at 9:08 am


This is so sad, that this country continues to show RACIST,we are doing it to this beautiful black man that you don’t was to win. I can not believe that Whites can still carry this much hate,As a Black woman of 64years old, I lived though the hate and I didn’t want to see my children and grandchildren go through it, I see that as Blacks our FIGHT is not over.Dr.King was non violented, this new generation is different and I thing the White race wants a WAR here with BLACKS. We need to come together, the other races that have come to this country are together, it just the WHITE AND BLACKS that are angry. I forgive the WHITE RACE, for the past things that they did to my people and they need to forgive themselves.IT’S TIME FOR THEM TO CHANGE.God love all of his children and so do I.



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sally

posted September 25, 2008 at 5:28 pm


Obama is a Christian, he is a child of the most high God.Jesus was his role model. It seems that some of you need a role model to, try JESUS…



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KLBA1

posted September 26, 2008 at 4:37 pm


Sally Stanley–
Are you capable of understanding that to disagree with a person who happens to be “black” is not the same thing as disagreeing with a person because he is “black”? I don’t care if Obama is a “beautiful black man” or not but it seems that you do. Are you perhaps, the racist who cannot look beyond someone’s skin color? Also, Obama is just as “white” as he is “black.” Or does his “white” mother not count in your book, because she is not black?



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Roy

posted September 29, 2008 at 5:10 am


Obama is not a true Christian., He is doing all the things to get the votes.



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Misty

posted October 31, 2008 at 12:51 pm


watch this link this man calls himself a Christain?
Whatever he is more like the Devil himself!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYRpIf2F9NA



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Ganesh

posted March 11, 2009 at 2:09 pm


In my view , Obama is a Christian, he is a child of the most high God.Jesus was his role model. It seems that some of you need a role model to, try JESUS..
Shiv



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