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SuperBowl: Great Game, but Madonna?

posted by Linda Mintle

While my team did not make it to the super bowl this year, I am excited to see the big game as those two teams should put on quite the show.

But Madonna for the half time entertainment?

A friend of mine asked me who still listens to Madonna? I really don’t know. She must sell music or she wouldn’t have been asked to do this gig. But every time I see Madonna, I feel like I am seeing a little girl locked in a grown up body. She seems like a wounded soul who is desperately seeking someone other than Susan!

And maybe that is what I sense–the seeker searching for validation and acceptance. I suspect that under all the bravado and strutting is a women in need of someone to love and to be loved back. She’s tried spirituality but needs the love of Jesus.

Madonna seems like a woman who has never grown past the identity verses confusion stage of Erikson’s stages of psychosocial development. Her constant reinventing of herself could be viewed as massive insecurity and a need to be noticed. This 50 something seems determined to stay young and relevant.

But it is like watching a former beauty queen trying to regain her title.

Madonna and I are about the same age. Maybe that is why it bothers me to see her acting like a teenager. Most women my age have grown into their skin.

I’m sure she’ll dance her heart out. I read that she spent 13 hours a day preparing for one of her music videos. That’s about what is would take to get a 50-year-old body to compete with Britney Spears!

So while you could admire her for still giving it the college try, I say it’s time to graduate and pass the baton. Old rock stars can still play the music, but there is something unsettling about watching them do it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



  • http://AddaURLtothiscomment vee

    In reference to Madonna and the superbowl. I wonder if people are driven to perform because they need the money to maintain their lifestyle or their need for validation? Which is stronger? Maintaining a particular lifestyle is very important to the majority of people. Others seem to enjoy doing what they know.

  • http://AddaURLtothiscomment Dr. Linda Mintle

    Comments will be deleted that violate BeliefNet’s Rules of Conduct. You are free to disagree with any position posted but you must do it in a way that follows the guidelines set forth on this site. Civility is all conversations is necessary.

  • http://AddaURLtothiscomment D

    I personally didnt like the halftime show. She moved really slow, sorry thats the truth. I applaud her efforts though, but I couldnt watch the whole thing. Maybe its because Im in my late 20′s. When people leave the music industry, its hard for me to accept the same music they played before they left. Its the same style she had before, it may be okay for the people that loved her back then but the younger generation was not interested in seeing Madonna. Not trying to be rude but just the way I feel. An older lady on stage does not make me want to get up and dance, especially not with the same old style she previously had. Its not like the halftime show has been that great for the last few years anyway. Sorry halftime shows are just becoming the norm. I just look forward to the game and the commercials and snack or play cards during halftime. Everyone has opinions people, dont get so worked up. Respectfully.

  • Linda Mintle

    Madonna is obviously a very polarizing person as evidenced by this blog. There is no diagnosis here and I never said I didn’t like her. I am not a fan of her music but I actually say I feel for her because I sense she is searching. Because she wouldn’t have been my choice for half time entertainment, does not mean I hate her or want harm to her. I have watched her through the years on talk shows, in interviews, this is what I sense when I hear her talk. And many of her music videos were disturbing to me, e.g., promoting s &m, etc. So this is just an opinion which is what I do as a blogger. And people are free to tell me they disagree with my opinion, why they like her, etc.

  • http://AddaURLtothiscomment February

    If your acting on behalf of your professional training as you say….you really have no business diagnosing a person outside of a clinical setting. That is called defamation. A doctor makeing these kind of statements in a public forum, blasting someone you admitted to not likeing is grounds for huge trouble! I would think you would know better! Perhaps those diagnosis should be published anonymously on a yahoo news story or something. Wow….Madonna really struck a reflective, personal chord with you huh?

  • http://AddaURLtothiscomment Dr. Linda Mintle

    It is amazing to me how misunderstood the idea of judgment is-you can judge a person’s behavior and the things they say against the Word of God. You can react to a person’s BEHAVIOR and THEIR WORDS without judging their hearts. Read the article again for all those of you who use judgment when you simply disagree. I never reference what may in her heart. And for the record, I am trained to observe behavior and know patterns. I am reacting to what I see and hear and you can respectfully disagree. So the judgment that everyone accuses Christians of having doesn’t fly here. When someone offends the Catholic church and mocks their faith, you can judge that as wrong. Don’t mind the dialogue but this is an opinion, based on what I see, if you don’t like it, that is fine but to call names, be so intolerant (the very thing you disdain) and calling any unsettling behavior judgment is ridiculous. If you are a fan, great. I personally am not!

  • http://AddaURLtothiscomment Anita

    It’s amazing how you feel the need to judge Madonna when you have never met her in person. You see her on TV but you have no idea what is in her heart. I think it’s so amusing the way “Christians” feel the need to cut others down. So ironic considering Jesus is the one who taught us not to judge other people. I’ve always found that people with righteous judgements are hurting or lacking in some way and judge others to make themselves feel better.

  • http://AddaURLtothiscomment Gary

    Madonna was great last night at half time. Skeptics should lighten up, she make more than most of us do and she will always have the star power needed in her business. Why else do people try to copy her.
    I read she has helped out stars like Katy Perry when they did’nt have the money.
    Keep it going Madonna!

  • http://AddaURLtothiscomment Kathy Brown

    Madonna was great, my spouse & I enjoyed the half time show. She’s her own person don’t judge her.

  • http://AddaURLtothiscomment Karen

    I think it is terrible how everyone is so
    consumed with her age and how they are making
    such a big deal out of it. She had one little skip on stage when she was performing and they were saying it’s her age. I think it was Beyonce that fell down stairs. Lots of people have a slip on stage – even the young ones. The old guys can get out there and still perform and nobody says a word..Tony Bennett, Paul McCartney, the rolling stones etc. Women get so picked on regarding age…so sad!!!

  • http://AddaURLtothiscomment Rodney Trice

    Sounds a little bit jealous, this review.
    It also sounds like it was written or at least decided on before the show even happened.
    And uncomfortable, well, when everyone is so ready to tear her down at every corner, yea, Im guessing she would be uncomfortable. I would.
    I think she did a great show. One of the better halftime shows in a while. Good for her! And YES, she does still sell albums, and her last tour (2 years ago) sold out, EVERYWHERE, when many of her younger competitors cancelled shows because they were not selling tickets.

  • http://AddaURLtothiscomment Harry

    really don’t agree madonna used to be over the top like Lady GAGA although I didn’t think the performance was great it was better than the most recent half time shows

    I even commented to my wife that Madonna wasn’t over the top and my wife said well shes 50 something now.

    There is nothing wrong with a mature woman who takes pride in her appearance to dance and be sexy!!!

  • http://EnjoyedMadonnaattheSuperBowl!!!! Linda Luzania

    I completely disagee!! Madonna danced joyously and sang beautifully with the gifts that God gave her. She takes care of herself mentally and physically. She is a deeply spiritual woman. I enjoyed every second of her joyous dancing and wonderfully happy singing! If you pay attention to her spirituality, she is also a deeply spiritual woman who accepts Eastern and Western healthy religion and spirituality! Rock on sister Madonna!!! I hope you dance… forever! And sing…. forever! God has Blessed her and she shares it with millions!

  • mattaug

    Well put on this … we all should grow up a bit… her included!

  • http://AddaURLtothiscomment Pat

    We don’t say the same thing about male rock stars who are older. Look at Bon Jovi, or the many other bands still playing and no one is critizing. I am Madonna’s age also and it helps to see women out there doing what they do best at any age.

  • Linda Mintle

    The inspiration part of this piece was supposed to be about looking for love and acceptance through the love of God, not by trying to work your body to a pulp to look younger, continuing to be edgy through sexuality and provocation–I did do my homework and chose not to write about her rise to fame through nude modeling, posing for Playboy, Penthouse, doing erotic coffee table books, offending the Catholic church, etc. I stand by my position that deep down she is still seeking and will never find what she is looking for by determination. You can feed the poor and do good deeds on earth, but if you don’t accept Jesus as your personal Savior and follow His path, it won’t mean anything to come. I’m not jealous one bit. I feel for her and see her as the consummate seeker looking for fame and peace in places she won’t find it. Calling Madonnon an icon of grace confuses me. In watching her in interviews, she is quick with put downs and has commented negatively on several of her peers so I don’t know where you are getting the grace. Sorry you are so disgusted but what you have written doesn’t reflect who I am either or the point of this commentary.

  • Linda Mintle

    Darlene,
    I actually agree with you on the singing part. That you can still use your voice and talents. Talent in many musicians continues to be refined. The part I find unsettling is when old rockers still wear spandex and act like they did when they were 20 in terms of the stage act and such. Your singing in church is not the same at all. When I see a music video with Madonna portraying S and M and such at her age, I wonder when the rebellion stops and the art takes over. People on this blog disagree with me and that is fine but I have watched her interviews and I see her looking for acceptance and love. It is just my opinion and it makes me want her to find it.

  • http://AddaURLtothiscomment Fabrizio Pagan

    You know, one of the reasons why I’m subscribed to Beliefnet is because I always thought it was a religiously-unbiased site. I am not a fan of Madonna and never will be. However I find this article terribly patronizing: she ‘needs’ Jesus? Maybe, you need to check your facts and proofs of his existence(or lack of). I would understand if you criticized her miming to the songs, but, frankly, the fact that she has changed her images 1,000 times is not an indication of insecurity. She is a performer. I find your comments slightly misogynistic, if anything, which goes a long way to show how unbalanced the christian culture still is. Why don’t people bitch about the numerous aging male rockstars? And you’re a 50+ female yourself, uh? I can smell sour grapes……

  • http://AddaURLtothiscomment J Cervantes

    I’m a bit confused as your newsletter preaches “Inpiration, Faith and Spirituality?” After reading your post/ blog or lack of knowledge on the artist…I feel you SHOULD really do your homework before you create NEGATIVITY on a person; and I ask myself? who is this person to judge? and why must she post such a post about a person (aka Madonna) this person we call Madonna, has helped many people- feeding hungry people, opening an orphanage, giving people opportunities, inspiring people to be good and do good, but why must this person write something so bad of her? Why would she mention her age? is she jealous? who’s anyone to judge? and this is why I have un-subscribed from your newsletter. Madonna last tour grossed the most in entertainment history, she’s managed to juggle a lot, raised some great work ethic in her work, I am NO ONE to judge her as a person…she’s inspired me as an artist: director, writer, producer and over all to become a better human being and always push myself to grow as a human being…all of this while having God on my side. Who sets what? or at what time ONE MUST retire or quit? This is NOT INSPIRATIONAL…it’s her game and she along with God’s will…will quit when she wants to…until then…I adore her determination and people like YOU for posting this is what makes living in “limits” without God there ARE NO LIMITS. A wonderful human being as Madonna shows it and is an icon with the grace of God. We all have our demons and must face our own judgement one day, until then I judge you to seek and look into statistics before you foolishly make ASSumptions and stick your personal comments or LIMITED beliefs to yourself. I enjoyed your newsletter, but after this…I am gone! Good Luck and please, please do your research before anything…hard work DOES pay off…and all this JESUS talk on putting people down on some of these comments are disgusting to me, that’s not what JESUS would do…who’s anyone to say how one or any person at ANY age should act? Really? Good Luck YOU are going to need it.

  • http://AddaURLtothiscomment Darlene

    I disagree with the article completely. While my body shape doesn’t look as well as Madonna’s (I am in my 60′s), I am still performing music at my church (lead vocals and guitar). Although my body has aged, my voice has not. If you have it, use it! Madonna has it all and she should use it all without being discriminated against because of her age. By the way, Paul Mc Cartney is still performing at nearly 70 with an aging man’s voice (too much vibrato), but that’s okay, no? The Rolling Stones are too and they are the same age, but that too is okay, no? Heaven help the poor woman who is older than 40 and wants to do the same having it all like Madonna notwithstanding.

    Don’t get me wrong. While Madonna is still beautiful and talented and still knocks it out of the park, her personal life is a different matter, but she should not be held back while old, male performers from the 60′s still perform with their fading, aging voices and not suffer for it. Madonna was great at the Superbowl and didn’t miss a beat or a cue. I thoroughly enjoyed her performance. Go Madonna for all of us old gals who have it and like to perform music!

  • http://AddaURLtothiscomment M.L

    actually you’re right. I’m 20 and sometimes when i’m watching her i feel embrassed for her because she is 50 and act like a teenager. She should grow up i mean every woman can be beautiful in her way. She don’t have to act like someone like Britney Spears you know. Sorry for my english :)

  • http://AddaURLtothiscomment Dr. Linda Mintle

    I wasn’t putting Madonna down for being fit. It’s one of the things you can admire about her or anyone else who, like you, continues to dance and be active.

    People you are missing the point here. I just think there is something deeper going on and would love her to explore Jesus in all her searching.

  • http://AddaURLtothiscomment Fe B. Zulueta

    The comment on Madonna as a 50 year old still performing is a little unsettling for me. I am turning 59 in february 26 this year and is still very active in dance sport. I won 2 International Ballroom competitions in 2009 and in 2010 and can still do splits and lifts in Argentine Tango to this day. In any sport or dance or singing, practice is done to perfect a routine, never because the body is no longer fit for it. To begin with, how can a 50 year old body stand 13 hours of practice if the body is not fit! I am not a fan of Madonna but I admire her for her performances because they are really artistically prepared as compared to the others.

  • http://AddaURLtothiscomment laura furst

    I have to say no one has suggested other and much older male rockers lile Mick Jagger, Rod Stewart,.Paul.McCartney etc… retire. Why should Madonna? I’m not a fan of any of them but respect their right to rock out as well as Tina Turner’s, Debbie Harry’s,and Stevie Nick’s too.

  • http://AddaURLtothiscomment delia

    Why not act however you want at whatever age? How old would you be if you didn’t know how old you were? Live life to the fullest…..

  • http://AddaURLtothiscomment MC

    I hope she does a great job and everyone loves her performance. I pray she knows God and has a beautiful life!

    In God’s precious hands may her hold her.

  • Linda Mintle

    Jenna,
    Good catch on the mistake. This is what happens when you multitask two articles and don’t proof read. When I read it, I caught the Erikson mistake and had to go and change the other article on Maslow.Look, it’s not gossip. This is my opinion, commentary on someone who is going to be in our living rooms this Sunday. There is something unsettling about her and this is what I do, comment on such things. My point was I think she is seeking and needs love.

  • http://AddaURLtothiscomment Frank

    what a myopic viewpoint. It’s not your place to judge her life or her religion. She is doing what she loves and it’s entirely up to her.

  • http://AddaURLtothiscomment Gertie

    Your attitude is so harsh. I grew up listening to Madonna and even skipped Jesus Day (Sunday) to dance like she did in the privacy of my home. I had way more fun and kept skinny rather than sitting listening and reading sermons. Life is about being who you are meant to be and Madonna isn’t stopping. Nor is she out to please you. Dont forget if you dont like it, at least there is an off button on the tv… Works wonders!

  • http://AddaURLtothiscomment Jenna

    I’m definitely not a Madonna fan, and I am one who usually turns off half-time of the Super Bowl because of the un-family friendliness of the acts they choose.
    But this commentary feels like it borders on gossip. The author’s opinion on Madonna as a half-time show could have used more concrete research (that would be Erickson’s stages of development, not Maslow’s hierarchy), and more true love instead of criticism for someone truly in need of the love of Christ.

  • http://AddaURLtothiscomment Elaine

    I agree with J and you do sound jeleous. At your age, I can see you on your porch in a rocking char. Rock on, girlfried!

  • http://AddaURLtothiscomment Karen

    I agree. I love Madonna. I went to a concert of hers a few years ago. She was very popular in the 80′s. She was a pop star in her day. I believe what I liked most about her was the fact she was from Michigan and she was a rebel.Lady Gaga reminds me of what Madonna used to be but Lady Gaga is a better singer voice wise. Seems Madonna icon that she is, is envious of GAGA’s success. Yes you guessed it. I am a MONSTER.

  • http://AddaURLtothiscomment gina

    Jealous much? How could you begin to know what another human being needs? How do you know that Madonna doesn’t already “have Jesus” or any other spiritual entity she is called to? Your article really sounds petty, insecure and judgemental. To each his own. Maybe you should keep your eyes on your own path and not condem others for theirs.

  • http://AddaURLtothiscomment Em45

    While I do see all that you do, I don’t put the very judgmental and negative spin on it. When I think about living, it seems to me we all have huge gaping holes in our selves. Yes, hers is out there, but so many artists and performers are similar. It seems to me that because she is so like you in gender and age, that you are able to see it more & then pass negative judgement. I wonder if you are so negative to yourself as well. My guess is yes.

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  • http://AddaURLtothiscomment Ally

    I’m glad to see Madonna performing the Superbowl halftime show. Also, I’m glad performers that are in there 50 plus age group still re-invent themselves as artists and still perform. Art is re-invention and creation. Not standardization to some mold. In regards to age, I highly respect these older generations performing as someone who is younger. I find it inspiring to see people their age still doing what they love. I hope to one day be like that, not be stuck in some mold of what should be done just because it’s expected.

  • http://AddaURLtothiscomment Annie Strazzara

    I can’t believe that someone have a problem with seeing Madonna in the super bowl. If they choose her is because even in her 50′s she is more hot that all those younger potheads that we have now. Get a grip Madonna ROCKS!!!!!!

  • http://AddaURLtothiscomment Paula Bourgeois

    Some of you “ladies” sound prejudice and jealous. Thought Christians were supposed to love everyone. Jesus Did.

  • http://AddaURLtothiscomment J

    I suppose that some women of a certain age put on a sweater and curl up in their rocking chairs and… grow uncomfortable with women who are a little more active? Kudos to Madonna for still doing what she wants!

  • http://AddaURLtothiscomment Stefanie

    I am happy for her, and excited to see her show. Don’t like? Don’t watch. Go get your Superbowl snack or whatever. She looks pretty good for her age in my opinion. Saw a clip of her video on TV last night. She still has her body.

  • http://AddaURLtothiscomment Dennis

    Since when do musicians, vocalists or performers retire?

  • http://AddaURLtothiscomment Wow

    If Ms Mintle had bothered to research the entertainer she spends a few paragraphs judging, she might learn the answer to why Madonna hasn’t retired and how she has settled into her own skin.

  • http://AddaURLtothiscomment Melinda Hazel

    I saw her interviewed on Jay Leno and she seemed so uncomfortable and shy…like she wanted to crawl under a rock. I agree, she needs much healing. My son Brian (16)saw a clip of her performance last night. He said” ugh, how old is she?” Even some of our teens have sense to know when you should retire and move on.

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