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Boehner: Washington’s most powerful Catholic?

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He might have some competition from the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, but the man who will soon be the Speaker of the House could claim that title.

Some details about John Boehner’s upbringing:

He was reared in a two-bedroom Sears catalog house in suburban Cincinnati with 11 brothers and sisters, and parents who slept on a pullout couch until they built an addition that added more bedrooms. As the second-oldest child, Boehner was the authoritarian who made sure the younger ones did their homework and cleaned their rooms. He’s still a neatnik.

With just one bathroom in the house, “you had to work within the schedule Mom put out so that you didn’t get left behind,” recalls Boehner’s big brother Bob. “Everybody had to work together.” And that, says Bob Boehner, laid the foundation for his brother’s success in politics and working with all sorts.

The Boehners, like many big Catholic families, were what Bob Boehner calls conservative “Kennedy Democrats,” but not politically active.

Earl and Mary Anne Boehner sent their kids to Catholic schools and put to them to work helping out at the family’s bar on nights and weekends.

At Archbishop Moeller High School, John Boehner was an average student and a better linebacker. He played football for Gerry Faust, who later coached for Notre Dame. Faust, 75, remembers Boehner as “the kind of guy who gave his all, all the time,” despite back trouble from a basketball injury.

After high school, it took Boehner most of a decade to get through night school at Xavier University, working odd jobs before landing at Nucite Sales, where he made his fortune. He speaks often of the turning point in the late 1970s when he became a Republican: He says it was when he started making real money and discovered that he was paying more in taxes than he’d earned a few years earlier.

The minority leader is known on Capitol Hill as a likable if polarizing legislator. He answers to “Boehner,” sans title.

He shrugs off constant jokes about his tan from everybody from Obama on down. (Family and friends insist he just has a naturally dark complexion.) Always well dressed, he’ll offer gentle gibes at the sartorial choices of staff members or reporters he knows in the Capitol, and feign disgust at those with long hair.

In a bitterly divided Congress, Boehner’s worked with Democrats at times. He and the late Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., jointly sponsored an annual fundraiser for Catholic schools in D.C. He’ll even share an irreverent joke with Democrats.

When he sat down with Democratic congressional leaders in January 2008 to talk about a stimulus package for the staggering economy, he quipped to Democratic Leader Steny Hoyer in full view of reporters and photographers, “As soon as they put those cameras away, I’m going to flip you the bird.”

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Deacon Keith Fournier, meantime, offers this context:

The new Speaker of the House will be John Boehner of Ohio. He is a faithful Catholic who fully understands the teaching of his Church and has earned a consistent 100% Pro-Life score from the National Right to Life Committee. Just as importantly, he has also earned a 0% score from the National Abortion Rights Action League, an organization which promotes the killing of children in the womb as a “right”. John Boehner is a truly Pro-Life Catholic and a champion of children in the first home of the whole human race, their mother’s womb!

He did not back down in exposing – and opposing – nationalized health care or “Obamacare”. He opposed it for many reasons. However, chief among them, he opposed it because it provides for funding for abortions. Even after the President signed the allegedly curative “executive order” claiming to prevent such funding, John Boehner was one of the strongest voices to reveal the subterfuge involved in the action stating ” (N)o Executive Order or regulation can override a statutory mandate unless Congress passes a law that prohibits federal funding from being used in this manner.”

He is a supporter of a bill sponsored by another real Catholic in the House, Congressman Chris Smith which will codify the Hyde Amendment and make sure no federal money is used to take the lives of our first neighbors under the guise of “Health Care”. It is called the “No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act.”



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plavo

posted November 3, 2010 at 10:18 am


I wonder how he voted on W’s two wars that have caused so much havoc and destruction to our men and women as well as natives, and of course, have put fellow Christians in great jeopardy over there



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Drew

posted November 3, 2010 at 12:14 pm


I notice that Deacon Fournier can understand the state of people’s heart and whether they are right with God.
In his writing, he called the incoming House speaker a “real” Catholic. I guess that is in contrast to the outgoing House speaker.
Aren’t we as a church – esp an ordained clergyman – better than dividing the church? I am disappointed. And we want people to come home to the church, when we throw brickbats at each other? Why bother.



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JosephW

posted November 3, 2010 at 12:38 pm


Drew,
Sometimes we have to admonish our brothers and sisters in hopes they repent and return to the faith. We can’t have people especially ones in the spotlight who claim they are Catholic act and say what is contrary to the teaching of the Catholic Church. We don’t always have to agree with it, but we should and are required to follow the Church’s teaching. I haven’t found one thing in the CCC that is not good for my soul.



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Drew

posted November 3, 2010 at 1:33 pm


JosephW,
Thanks for your comments.
I disagree on your admonishment proposal. Calling someone real, fake, blah, who needs it? It is creates more needless division.
I side with the Lord when he suggests people strive to remove the timber from their own eye before trying to remove the splinter from their neighbors’ eye.
Again, thanks for your respectful comments.
Best,
Drew



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Laura

posted November 3, 2010 at 1:37 pm


Bush didn’t start the war. The Muslim terrorists did – just the next round in a 1300-year old war that Americans seem to be utterly ignorant of or in denial of, or deflect by screaming “It’s all about oil.”
I’ll be praying for Senator Boehner. He’s going to have an ugly time of it, to be sure.



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Laura

posted November 3, 2010 at 1:42 pm


My Preceding comments were directed to Plavo – and to them I’ll add, Plavo, you don’t seem to understand very much.
There are nearly thirty nations with a 90-100% Islamic population who have been systematically driving out or killing Christians in their borders for a great many years – as well as killing any Muslims of a differing sect. Sentimentality about a brutal people – the Muslims – we sure don’t need more of; the media has already given us a nosebag full of nonsense, as is.
In short – the killing and the persecutions predate 9/11. The 9/11 attacks simply kicked things up a notch so far as U.S. response goes. There are those of us who think we should have been kicking their butts from here to Timbuctu long before – with earlier terrorist attacks against U.S. troops and civilians.
Quit blaming the defendants for the perpetuators’ actions. You’re just adding to the problems, doing so.



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RomCath

posted November 3, 2010 at 1:48 pm


“In his writing, he called the incoming House speaker a “real” Catholic. I guess that is in contrast to the outgoing House speaker.”
Was that pro-choice leftist woman from California a Catholic? Could have fooled me.



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Art

posted November 3, 2010 at 1:49 pm


ref: I wonder how he voted on W’s two wars that have caused so much havoc
The Iraq War started because Saddam Hussein Violated the U.N. Cease Fire 17 times, not 1, 2, 3 ,4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, but 17 times! Saddam signed the Cease Fire, then Violated it! Do you understand Simple Things! Seventeen Violations of the Cease Fire! Are we clear yet?
Afghanistan War started when the Taliban allowed OBL to Bomb the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and one more target which failed in a Field in PA!
ref: and destruction to our men and women
Our Brave men and women Volunteered to SERVE our Country! They are not Victims but Volunteers!
ref: as well as natives,
Saddam Hussein Gassed to Death 175,000 ‘Native’ Kurds! He killed as many as 50,000 Iraqis per year! He had Rape Rooms! He attacked Kuwait! Why do you Hate the Kurds and Iraqi women? Why would you want Saddam back on his Throne Murdering his own People?
ref: and of course, have put fellow Christians in great jeopardy over there
In Iraq and Astan Christians are being Persecuted, that is Correct! Only the Yoke of Dictatorship Kept the Muslims from Murdering the Christians! Now that “Democracy” has taken hold, the Muslims are Murdering the Christians, and to your Mind, this is somehow George Bush’s Fault!
Huh?



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JosephW

posted November 3, 2010 at 2:00 pm


Drew,
We definitely need to remove the beam from our own eye first. We are all sinners and need to remember that fact everyday. Jesus himself admonished the pharisees and even Peter when he was not listening and following His teaching (Mat 16 23). If we are going to call ourselves Catholics then I believe we need to hold ourselves and others (lovingly) accountable to following the faith. Some Church teaching was hard to understand at first but I do believe it has the best intent for our souls.



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Fiergenholt

posted November 3, 2010 at 2:49 pm


I am far more fascinated by that early reference in the posting by Dcn Greg that John Boehner was an early follower (a disciple?) of Gerry Faust. I first met Gerry over fifty years ago and while I have never been close to him since, I have followed his coaching career with a combination of awe, amazement and amusement.
For those of you who do not know Gerry — many consider him a hybrid of Joe Paterno, Vince Lombardi and Bishop Sheen. All through his Catholic high-school coaching career, his motto seemed to be “winning is everything but you have to pray a lot about it first.” He carried that same simple theme with him to Notre Dame.
Not bad — providing the “winning is everything” does not overpower the prayer — and the integrity — and the values-added-ness that coaches are supposed to role-model for their players.
It is rather ironic that a short time after Gerry left coaching at the Catholic High Schools in Cincinnati and went into college coaching, the Ohio High School Athletic Association clamped down on all sorts of flagrantly unethical recruiting violations by urban Catholic Boys High Schools.
I have been told repeatedly — by folks I tend to trust — that John Boehner is a man of prayer. Boehner is also a winner — at least in the political sense of that term; one cannot argue that his constituents keep sending him to Congress. I do not have the right to judge his integrity nor whether he possess this “preferential option for the poor” that his Catholic education should have ground into him from day one.
Frankly, folks, there is a lot more to Catholic teaching than “wining is everything but you have to pray a lot about it first.



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Romulus

posted November 3, 2010 at 3:20 pm


The Iraq war started because the Bush Administration, prodded by neocon agitators (the real terrorists in this wretched affair), wanted it. To those who want to ascribe it to cease fire violations, I ask: Suppose you’re right. In view of the facts (all known at the time) that there were no WMDs and no links to terrorists with designs on the US, was it worth it?
Christians are being persecuted in the Middle East because Islamic fundamentalism, enraged and in search of convenient targets, associates indigenous Christians with the West. Islamic fundie rage has in our time been roused from dormancy in reaction to Cold War and subsequent meddling in the region’s politics by the USA, and by Israel which is seen as our friend and surrogate.
Plavo is right.



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plavo

posted November 3, 2010 at 4:14 pm


Art, then I suppose the UN should’ve declared war; It wouldn’t of course; and so Laura, because of all the grief of Islamic extremists, we pick a muslim country to start bombing?



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Art

posted November 3, 2010 at 5:28 pm


ref: Art, then I suppose the UN should’ve declared war
hahahahahaha
The U.N. Declare War! With what ARMY!!! You need an Army to fight a War! Where is the U.N. Army?
Simple fact:
Iraq signed a ‘Cease fire’! They violated the terms of it 17 times, not 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ,6 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, but 17 times! We the U.S. ah, I mean the U.N. should have Crushed him after the First Violation! The fact that we allowed 17 Violations before we Crushed him does not invalidate the FACT that Saddam Hussein (IRAQ) Violated a Signed CEASE FIRE!!!
Do you and the other Liberals understand Simple Things! You should! You seem to have a Simple Mind!
Oh, Romulus, what would you call:
Gassing 175,000 Kurds with GAS! Is not the Death of 175,000 Kurds with Gas the use of a WMD! A WMD kills many many people, is not 175,000 many many people? or do you Hate the Kurds?
What do you call:
500 Missiles tipped with Sarin Gas
a Mobile Biological Weapons lab
Centerfuges buried in Scientists back yard
Trucks driving out the Back of ‘suspected Weapon’ sites as the Iraqi’s kept us at the front of the building!
face it: Saddam (Dead as a Door Nail) Hussein had WMD! He used them to Kill 175,000 Kurds! He had Centerfuges, Sarin tipped Missiles, mustard gas, and a mobile biological weapons lab!
And, he violated the Cease Fire 17 times! But, go ahead, be a Dolt, and don’t speak to the FACTS!
George Bush caused the Dust bowl in the 1930s!
George Bush caused Man’s Fall!
George Bush caused me to flunk out of life!
You liberals really have a Dire Hatred of a ‘Good man’, flawed yes, but Fundamentally A Good Man!!! If he only tried to reverse the Scourge of Abortion, he’d be my Hero, but alas, he’s simply a ‘Good man’! Lock and Load!



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Art

posted November 3, 2010 at 5:34 pm


ref: and no links to terrorists with designs on the US
Oh, one more Fact for you:
Saddam Hussein gave Sanctuary to ‘Abu Nidal’, the mastermind of the Achillo Lauro Hijacking that resulted in the Muslims murdering Crippled American Jew Leon Klinghoffer and throwing his DEAD body off the deck of the ship!
Abu Nidal! Known Terrorist!
oh, and Saddam Hussein cheered on 911!!! That Alone should have brought an immediate Bombing of Baghdad!!!
Saddam played a game of “Cat and Mouse”, because he was afraid of the Iranians! He wanted them and us to believe he was close to getting the bomb! Play cat and mouse long enough and the Cat wins!!! Meow!!!!
I don’t even know why I speak Facts to your emotionally flawed Memories! You hate the Light (God), hate the United States of America! Probably never have served in the U.S. Military! Support Abortion! In short you Liberals are not on the Righteous path!!! As John the Baptist Stated: “Make Straight the Way of the Lord!”



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Romulus

posted November 3, 2010 at 5:58 pm


Art, you don’t know me. At all. You also don’t know what a just war is.
Saddam was an uncommonly bad guy — fine. The world is full of bad guys. That is not sufficient reason to go to war. Saddam never threatened the US. The chemical/biological weapons he possessed were obsolete and probably useless by 2003. Moreover, he had no means of delivering them to a US target. Saddam never had a viable nuclear weapons program.
Cheney, Rumsfeld, and their accomplices are stark villains who’ve led our country blundering into disaster and dishonor. Bush himself is a dolt and a blustering coward. He has that much at least in common with his successor.
For the record, I love God, and I hate abortion. I’ve got nothing against the Kurds. I don’t hate anyone, but the thought of what was done by my country in the name of heading off terrorism (or what-you-will) fills me with shame and disgust. I’m a Catholic in good standing and in all probability more conservative than you.



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Romulus

posted November 3, 2010 at 6:02 pm


Art – one more thing: I have never served in the military. So what?
This country isn’t a military dictatorship in which ordinary civilian pukes are despised as untermenschen. Not yet, anyway. If this bothers you, then you’re a traitor and enemy of the Constitution that you imply you’ve sworn to defend.



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Art

posted November 3, 2010 at 6:32 pm


ref: That is not sufficient reason to go to war. Saddam never threatened the US.
17 Violations of the Iraqi Signed Cease Fire with the U.N.!
17 Violations! Don’t have Selective Responses! Speak to the Exact Reason we Crushed this Murderer!!!
ref: I have never served in the military. So what?
Sew Buttons!!! A big so what! How did I know that you didn’t serve? Am I all knowing, or do I know Human nature? I served 10 years, 10 more years more than most of the Liberals!
And, yes, it does bother most of those that Served! That those that haven’t are big Cry-babies! Don’t call me a Traitor!
“More Conservative than me”! I truly don’t think so! Most Conservatives Love the United States of America, and HATE her Enemies!!!
Saddam also paid $25,000 to every Murder Bomber in Israel that Killed either a Jew or an American! Saddam gave Sanctuary to Abu Nidal!
Speak to the Facts!!! oh, and wmds are “Never” obsolete! You claim that Saddam did not have wmd, but cannot explain the Murder of 173,000 Kurds with Chemical Weapons, not the 17 Violations of the U.N. Cease Fire, not the 500 Missiles Tipped with Sarin Gas, nor the Mobile Biological Weapons lab, nor the ‘Cat and Mouse’ game with the Wussie U.N. WMD inspectors!
We were Justified! He’s Gone! all George Bush’s Fault!!! YaHOOOO!!!!!!!



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Art

posted November 3, 2010 at 6:35 pm


ref: Cheney, Rumsfeld, and their accomplices are stark villains who’ve led our country blundering into disaster and dishonor.
Once again!!! You are completely Wrong!!!
17 Violations of the U.N. Cease Fire!!! Do you not yet understand simple things?
No Dishonor Crushing our Enemies!!!
But, as you’ve never SERVED, you wouldn’t know that, now would you?
Facts are Stubborn things! Speak to the 17 Violations of the Iraqi Signed Cease Fire!



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plavo

posted November 3, 2010 at 10:41 pm


Well Art, I guess that is what Jesus says: “crush your enemies” or do you want to invoke “self-defense” although Saddam did not attack us? OK let’s protect the unborn, but bomb the enemy! Whyis there always this disconnect with pro-lifers?



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mike

posted November 4, 2010 at 7:48 am


Art, you’ve demonstrated yet again why no conservative is Christian: hatred of decency and truth has a lot to do with it.



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Art

posted November 4, 2010 at 10:27 am


ref: Art, you’ve demonstrated yet again why no conservative is Christian: hatred of decency and truth has a lot to do with it.
Really now! So, as Pontius Pilate Stated to Christ: “Truth, what is Truth?”
What have I said that wasn’t the Truth? Be specific now! You’ve got time, read my posts, check the facts, then come back and play!
Abortion is as Far from JUSTICE as Mankind could get! that’s the TRUTH!!!
Please don’t Kill any unborn babies today!
Please don’t counsel any pregnant women to kill their unborn baby today!
Please don’t lend them $$$ to kill their unborn baby today!
Please just for today, don’t kill any unborn Babies!
You may find you like yourself a lot more than you did yesterday! If not, You’re a lost cause!
Liberals = Fascists = Party of DEATH!!! Abortion, Euthanasia, Murdering 9 of 10 Downs babies in the womb, killing Girls in the womb more than boys!
And, you think that you have the “moral high ground”!!! Killing is not empathy, Killing is not Love!!!



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Art

posted November 4, 2010 at 10:33 am


ref: Well Art, I guess that is what Jesus says: “crush your enemies”
Do we live in a Catholic or Christian State, governed by the New Testament?
I didn’t think so! But, if we did, Christianity still does allow the ‘Crushing of our enemies’! Jesus submitted to Death, he was True God, True Man, an Innocent, Sinless, and he submitted to Death! he let the two Thieves be put to Death! The Death Penalty is not contradictory to Being against abortion! Being against the Death penaly, and being for abortion is Contradictory!!!
ref: or do you want to invoke “self-defense” although Saddam did not attack us?
once again, little ewe! Saddam signed a ‘cease fire’, Saddam violated said cease fire 17 times, are you an Idiot? Seventeen times he violated a truce!!! So, the U.S., I mean the U.N. Crushed him!!!
ref: OK let’s protect the unborn, but bomb the enemy!
Using an ‘HG’ trick: I’m glad you agree with me, yes, lets protect the unborn, and crush our enemies!!! Glad you agree!!!
ref: Why is there always this disconnect with pro-lifers?
there isn’t! the disconnect is with those that hate the unborn, hate women, hate black, hate poor people! The disconnect Evil doer is with you, and your malformed Conscience, or your Dead conscience!



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Deacon Greg Kandra

posted November 4, 2010 at 10:42 am


To all commenting here …
I’m going to nip this in the bud.
Please read my guidelines for posting. And rein it in. Please treat those with whom you disagree with respect and charity. Otherwise, comments here will be shut down. Thank you.
Deacon Greg



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Melissa

posted November 4, 2010 at 3:32 pm


You cannot be Catholic and be pro abortion. Catholics are to respect the dignity of life from conception to natural death. You are a CINO (Catholic in name only) if you are pro abortion.
War is a totally different situation. The Catholic Church has stated that a war is morally acceptable as long as you are defending the well being of others. In my humble opinion, every major war the USA has been involved in has been because we want to protect the safety and well being of our country and others!
Finally, the death penalty is also wrong per the Catholic Church. However, there are exceptions when a person is so dangerous to the well being of others that his/her death is the only way to protect others from the criminal. Again, that is a last resort option.



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BE

posted November 5, 2010 at 12:32 am


Catholics do not believe in abortion. We are the voice of the unborn child!



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Sue Baldassarre

posted January 16, 2011 at 1:28 am


The hypocracy of the Catholic Church. The Health Care Bill will pay for abortions in cases of rape, incest and when the mother’s life is in danger, so nobody gets Health Care. Let all be damned! Life is only important when it is in the womb. Once it is born who gives a damn! Boehner is good Catholic who is pro-life and pro-gun.



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Juliua

posted May 12, 2011 at 11:02 pm


John Boehner is not Catholic, he is just evil, he doesn’t believe in feeding the hunger, healing the sick, and treating everyone as equal. I feel sorry for this person, he missed the message of Jesus who was a true Socialist and thank God he was.



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Juliua

posted May 12, 2011 at 11:06 pm


Sue you are wrong the healthcare bill will not pay for abortions. People like you are against Medicare and Medicade which saves lives, you also believe that if you don’t have insurance and you get sick, ya can just die quietly.



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