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Giving Anglicans a Wuerl

posted by jmcgee

This news caused a stir last week, and I’m pleased to report that my show “Currents” (on Brooklyn’s Catholic cable channel NET) got the first broadcast interview with Archbishop Donald Wuerl, discussing his appointment to the committee helping to bring U.S. Anglicans into the Catholic Church. Take a look, below. (And a grateful diaconal bow to “Currents” contributor Rocco Palmo, who captured this and sent it along.)

“Currents”: Archbishop Donald Wuerl on Anglicanorum Coetibus from Rocco Palmo on Vimeo.

UPDATE: The Anchoress offers an interesting prediction:
I predict that eventually the beautiful Anglican Rite will top the Novus Ordo in popularity and attendance. I think the Latinists will keep to the Latin mass, but that we’ll see a slow migration by many Catholics, away from the Novus Ordo and the OCP hymnal and toward the exalted language and more classical presentment of the Anglicans. For those Catholics dissatisfied with the NO, but not inclined to Latin, the Anglican Rite will become the irresistible alternative that brings back “some” of babies thrown out with the bathwater “in the Spirit of Vatican II.”

Or (this is an extended prediction), we’ll see some parishes adapt a little, maintaining the NO, but perhaps reinstalling the altar rails, or ditching the handclaps and tambourines, for a bit more reverence.

Either way, it’s going to be quite a shake up.



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Rafaelle Aiden Gray

posted September 27, 2010 at 10:30 pm


Um…isn’t this all a bit of rehashing? In the 1980’s groups of Anglo-Catholic parishes left the Episcopal Church and were received, pastors and parishes all, into the Roman Church. If I remember correctly, there are 6-8 parishes scattered about the USA. I expect they are small, but are living expressions of vibrant Anglican Catholic faith. So, what of them? If new groups enter, will be be placed under the same “pastoral provision” that the original groups were? Or is this just a new wave of publicity grabbing?



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Deacon Greg Kandra

posted September 27, 2010 at 10:45 pm


Rafaelle…
Not exactly.
From Wikipedia:
On November 16, 2009, Pope Benedict XVI announced the creation of new structures within the Latin Rite of the Catholic Church for former Anglicans. The new Apostolic Constitution, Anglicanorum Coetibus, allows for the creation of personal ordinariates to be made up of and led by former Anglicans.[2] The ordinariates would be treated largely as independent dioceses with their own liturgical practices based upon Anglican tradition and the independent training of new priests in those traditions. The ordinariates can be led by a bishop or a priest. In practice, these ordinariates will be similar in structure to that of a military ordinariate like the Roman Catholic Archdiocese for the Military Services of the United States. It is expected that all current Anglican Use parishes, who are currently under diocesan bishops, will join a newly created Anglican ordinariate. The creation of this new structure was in part a response to a request by the Traditional Anglican Communion to join the Catholic Church. On March 3, 2010, Anglican Use parishes joined the Anglican Church in America, the American branch of the Tradition Anglican Communion, to formally request the establishment in the United States of an Anglican Ordinariate.[3]
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Also, the Anglican use provision applied only to a scattering of parishes in the US. The constitution created by Benedict extends this to a worldwide provision, and changes the corporate structure, as noted above.
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Katherine

posted September 28, 2010 at 2:24 pm


For those who find beauty and pastoral benefit in the Anglican Liturgy, I hope they make use of it and any accomodation that can be made for them is a good thing. The same for those who find beauty and spiritual benefit for worship in Latin, using either the current or the former ritual.



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Dante

posted September 28, 2010 at 6:20 pm


Aren’t the doomsday prophecies regarding the Novus Ordo a kind of liturgical slap in the face to JPII and B16 et al who long ago began the process of re-translation of the texts which we now await with joyful hope for Advent 2011? Aren’t the Anchoress and others jumping the gun and presuming that an accurate translation of the Church’s Liturgy will be insufficient for English-liturgy enthusiasts?
Regarding the Anglican Ordinariate: I wonder if the ecclesiastical powers that be will treat such as they have the Eastern Catholics? While any Catholic can attend any Mass in any Rite that is in communion with Rome, it is presumed that one worships in his or her own proper Rite and formal transferrance of Rite is actually not a simply task nor easily granted.
It wouldn’t surprise me if the AO gets this same treatment even though it’s within the Roman Church. After all, for over a century the Eastern Catholics have not been able to retain all their ancient traditions when immigrating to the West (e.g., married clergy) and some even had their church interiors Latinized. And these Eastern Churches have a far more venerable ancient tradition. It surprises me that some who clamor for the TLM and invoke its ancient status (far preceding Trent)now become apparent cheerleaders of the Anglican Use Liturgy which does not share this ancient history. It seems to me that the Novus Ordo of Paul VI (even pre-new translation) at least has more authority as a liturgy of the Church than did the Anglican Use which in the 80s received a minor facelift yet still remained the offspring of a Protestant service. My…liturgy can indeed make strange bedfellows.



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Donald

posted September 29, 2010 at 5:08 pm


I am glad to see the Roman Catholic Church maintain a open door to Anglicans. I am a new Catholic convert who was an Episcopalian and believe in the Anglo-Catholic ,Oxford Movement ideas that in many ways transformed the Anglican communion.I am gratified to see that Episcopalians will be able to worship with their prayer book as Roman Catholics. I hope it will not be as large as the prayer books that are being used today by those churches that have previously joined the Catholic Church as the books are hardly portable –they are 3″ thick. Still the same I am glad to see the Sarum rite receive it’s due.I do not think it will be as popular as the Novo Ordo Roman Rite but it may have a charm to some who like the more Latinized English in their liturgy which is a direction our church is turning. I do not think there will be large numbers of Episcopalians that come over to the Catholic Church as many of them completely oppose the Pope as much as they do gay marriage or ordinations. Even though there may be few churches coming over from the Episcopal Church I am glad to see it. Many Episcopalians will avoid having there church become Catholic because of the ECUSA has threatened to sue for the property of any church that leaves the Episcopal Communion. It will be interesting to see how the Catholic Church will act to legally defend these converts.



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Chris

posted September 29, 2010 at 6:40 pm


I am also a former Episcopalian/Anglican who converted to the Catholic Faith several years ago. I must say I am very excited about these developments. I have no regrets about joining the Catholic Faith, but I do love and miss the Anglican Rite and our prayer book. There are actually quite a few of us already in existing Latin Rite Parishes. I seem to meet them in every parish I go to, including one priest. I believe many would welcome the addition of the Anglican Rite in whatever form it takes, though as an Iraq veteran x 2, I also agree with the comments made about the Eastern Catholic Churches.



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