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Ministering to gay Catholics

posted by jmcgee

A couple weeks back, a parish in Manhattan drew a lot of attention — and criticism — for its involvement in New York’s annual “gay pride” parade. I posted an item on the controversy and it got some lively comment.

On “Currents,” we decided to take a closer look at the parish and its outreach to people who feel same-sex attraction. Those who followed this controversy might find our reports of interest.  The two stories are at the links below.  

A report about St. Francis Xavier Church

An interview about the church-approved ministry to homosexuals, “Courage”



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Chris Sullivan

posted July 8, 2010 at 4:11 pm


Thanks for covering this. It is very inspiring to see the Church ministering to ALL God’s people.
God Bless



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Mike

posted July 8, 2010 at 5:10 pm


It would only be inspiring if the Church accepted that God does not condemn gay relationships. Until it does, it will not be of God.



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Conservative

posted July 9, 2010 at 7:20 am


Mike wrote: “God does not condemn gay relationships”
Please let us know when God said this. It seems nature, scripture and logic say otherwise.



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Rob the Rev

posted July 9, 2010 at 10:01 am


Hey Conservative: Read the book BIOLOGICAL EXUBERANCE: ANIMAL HOMOSEXUALITY AND NATURAL DIVERSITY by Bruce Bagemihl. Ph.D. Nature does not say otherwise!
Scripture is merely the ruminations of certain humans on god and religion and not any kind of a final word, either.
A logical case for homosexuality can also be made.



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Conservative

posted July 9, 2010 at 10:32 am


“Scripture is merely the ruminations of certain humans on god and religion and not any kind of a final word, either.”
Christians believe it is the inspired Word Of God. If you think otherwise that is your opinion. It isn’t mine.
“A logical case for homosexuality can also be made.”
If it were logical and in accord with nature it seems that it would also be capable of producing new life. It isn’t. Whether you are religious or not, if it were as normal as heterosexuality it would appear in nature at about the same rate. It doesn’t.



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Mordred08

posted July 10, 2010 at 12:34 am


“if it were as normal as heterosexuality it would appear in nature at about the same rate”
I’m sure that makes sense on some strange planet. But on Earth…not so much. That’s like saying if being American were normal, there would be as many Americans as Chinese people.



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Michael C

posted July 10, 2010 at 1:47 pm


“If it were logical and in accord with nature it seems that it would also be capable of producing new life. It isn’t.”
And therefore you would have to presume that it would die out. It does not, it continues as it has for millenia. Therefore God created homosexuals, and continues to create them.



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Conservative

posted July 10, 2010 at 1:58 pm


“Therefore God created homosexuals, and continues to create them”
The most bizarre statement I have seen yet. Some are born with terrible limitations-physical or otherwise. God created them too. Is that the norm? No it isn’t.
I think the Vatican stated it quite clearly that it is “disordered”.



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Your Name

posted July 10, 2010 at 11:38 pm


Why is this beneficial? The Church demands that society treat even celibate gays as inferiors discriminating against them in education, employment, military service, housing, etc. The Church has nothing worthwhile for gays. Why not give up the pretense? Or are Catholics so narcissistic that they can’t face the fact that their religion is a supremacist ideology.



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Stranger here

posted July 19, 2010 at 4:18 pm


“If it were logical and in accord with nature it seems that it would also be capable of producing new life.”
Why? I know many heterosexuals who are not capable of producing new life. Some of them even CHOSE not to.
Your posts have nothing to do with either logic nor nature.



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Conservative

posted July 19, 2010 at 5:01 pm


“Your posts have nothing to do with either logic nor nature.”
Neither does homosexual behavior nor marriage.
Heterosexuals unless prevented by some diability or age or plain selfishness are normally capable of producing new life.
Homosexuals are never capable of reproducing. Are they?



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Your Name

posted August 12, 2010 at 11:29 am


But of course, procreation has NEVER been a requirement of marriage. Plus, we let non-procreative heterosexuals marry – be that by age, disability or even a matter of CHOICE (not that Catholics are all that big on choice – in any arena). How “natural” is that?
Absurd. As usual.



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Your Name

posted August 12, 2010 at 12:10 pm


What a stupid argument. No, Catholics are not big on choice, neither was Jesus.



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