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“There are three great groups of victims in this story. The first and most obvious, the children who were abused, who trusted, were preyed upon and bear the burden through life. The second group is the good priests and good nuns, the great leaders of the church in the day to day, who save the poor, teach the immigrant, and, literally, save lives. They have been stigmatized when they deserve to be lionized. And the third group is the Catholics in the pews–the heroic Catholics of American and now Europe, the hardy souls who in spite of what has been done to their church are still there, still making parish life possible, who hold high the flag, their faith unshaken. No one thanks those Catholics, sees their heroism, respects their patience and fidelity. The world thinks they’re stupid. They are not stupid, and with their prayers they keep the world going, and the old church too.”

Peggy Noonan, April 1, 2010



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Reaganite in NYC

posted April 1, 2010 at 11:39 pm


Actually, there are two additional sets of victims:
(1) The American newspaper-reading public, and especially subscribers to The New York Times, who are victims of journalistic malpractice on the part of NY Times reporter Laurie Goodstein and her editors.
(2) The far larger group of young victims in our public schools and juvenile detention centers who have been overlooked by the NY Times, which is evidently more interested in bashing the Church than it is in protecting children.
Up in Connecticut, Bridgeport Bishop William Lori had this to say today:
“If we really care about protecting children, then the fourth estate needs to focus its spotlight on those institutions with the greatest problems. In January of this year, the U. S. Department of Justice reported that one out of ten young people incarcerated in government-run detention facilities were sexually victimized by their guards during the single year of 2008. This represents 2,370 victims. Where was the Times report? And the number of sexual abuse victims in public schools dwarfs the problem in juvenile detention facilities.”
“The Times just sued our Diocese to acquire confidential documents from a court file so that it could re-publish stories of abuse that occurred during the 1960s and 1970s. Yet it ignores that in Connecticut alone, 112 Connecticut public school teachers and coaches have lost their license to teach because of sexual contact with students since 1992; and 19 foster parents paid by the State of Connecticut have been disciplined for sexually abusing the children in their care since 2006. Where’s the outrage and the calls
for resignations?”



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Gentle Gentile

posted April 2, 2010 at 12:42 am


I have never felt compelled to comment on these posts before, but this one calls to me. It is not the job of the NYT to keep children safe. Funny, but I sort of thought it WAS the job of the church to keep children safe– at least those in the church’s care. The NYT may indeed be putting its focus uncomfortably on the church, but that doesn’t change the fact that these awful things have happened.
I have a lot of sympathy for the injured parties pointed out Deacon Kandra, but I don’t blame the press for the injuries.



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cathyf

posted April 2, 2010 at 1:02 am


I would count another group of victims — the millions of children and teenagers who are being denied the opportunity to have healthy relationships with adults because every adult is seen as a potential abuser. Some of those kids, ironically, will suffer great injury when the lack of normal relationships results in them acting out sexually with their peers, abusing drugs and/or alcohol, etc.



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Dana MacKenzie

posted April 2, 2010 at 2:31 am


O/T, but Deacon Greg, is there any way to tell Beliefnet that when they shove one of those ads in my face and try to force my attention before I can find the x button and close it, I deliberately look away and do NOT look at the ad, because I’m so resentful of its insistent presence? Thank you.



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Reaganite in NYC

posted April 2, 2010 at 7:20 am


Gentle Gentile: “It is not the job of the NYT to keep children safe.”
It is the job of ALL of us, including the NYT, to keep children safe. But they really don’t care about keeping children safe or reporting the news, but simply promoting their own agenda, which includes bashing the Church.
Far, far more children were abused in the last year alone in juvenile detention facilities and in public schools than have been abused by people in the Church. Why doesn’t the NYT go after the real predators? Why does “Gentle Gentile” and others look the other way?



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Mike Andrews

posted April 2, 2010 at 7:21 am


It is always baffling to see the departure of Catholics from the one faith because of the sins of others while they themselves, as all of us all, are sinners. Denying themselves access to the graces of the sacraments is precisely the wrongest thing to do. I will never let a bad priest or bishop drive me from the Church.



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Curious

posted April 2, 2010 at 7:25 am


Amen Mike, Great post!



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Mike

posted April 2, 2010 at 8:41 am


Far, far more children were abused in the last year alone in juvenile detention facilities and in public schools than have been abused by people in the Church. Why doesn’t the NYT go after the real predators? Why does “Gentle Gentile” and others look the other way?

The Catholic Church’s history is filled with rape, murder, and war committed in the name of God. Those are the facts. Your assertion is just that: an assertion. It has no basis in fact.



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Not Your Name

posted April 2, 2010 at 9:23 am


Mike’s history is filled with infidelity, larceny, drunkeness, and a case of nalitosis that ought be banned under civilised rules of war.
Those are facts. Your assertions are just that, assertions.



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Reaganite in NYC

posted April 2, 2010 at 10:49 am


Mike: “The Catholic Church’s history is filled with rape, murder, and war committed in the name of God. Those are the facts. Your assertion is just that: an assertion. It has no basis in fact.”
Actually, “Mike”, I was referring to the information shared by Bp. Lori that provides factual perspective on the problem of child abuse and locates the actual centers of that abuse in our society today.
Your statement “of fact” about the Catholic Church is nothing more than a calumnious and irrational eruption. It sounds like you’re having a bad morning :-( The peace of Christ be with you on this Good Friday :-)



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oldestof9

posted April 2, 2010 at 11:17 am


Thank-you Peggy



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Curious

posted April 2, 2010 at 11:33 am


Yes, Mike seems conflicted. His assertions about the Church are assertions. What Bishop Lori related is based on fact.



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MS2U

posted April 2, 2010 at 7:17 pm


Mike: The world’s history is filled with rape, murder, and war committed in the name of [fill in your favorite scape-goat here]. This is an obvious fact.
I’m praying for you: that your hatred of the Church will be melted by our Lord’s infinite mercy.



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DeaconScott

posted April 3, 2010 at 12:02 pm


I learned two or three things a long time ago. One was that all reputations are earned. Maybe blown out of proportion, maybe expressed too charitably or too uncharitably, but not wrong.
If people think the church is a liar, it’s because the church has lied. If people hate the church, it’s because the church has behaved hatefully. If people have no use for God, it’s because God’s friends have shown God to be useless – or harmful, as in this instance.
Because there’s a fourth victim: everyone who, seeing what the the church does and has done in the name of God or under the cover of God, turns away in disgust.
This is a much greater sin than all the rape, murder, and war put together.



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Mike

posted April 3, 2010 at 11:48 pm


I’m praying for you: that your hatred of the Church will be melted by our Lord’s infinite mercy.
I appreciate the prayer; however, I hope you realize that my “hatred” is just the recognition of what the Catholic Church is, and always has been: a way to bind human beings to sin and self-loathing.



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ds

posted April 4, 2010 at 2:20 am


I might not be stupid, but lately I sure do feel stupid sitting in those pews.



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Curious

posted April 4, 2010 at 10:51 am


Mike said “a way to bind human beings to sin and self loathing”. Interesting since the Church has always and continues to proclaim reconciliation, the dignity of every person and loving one’s self as Jesus commanded. I must have missed Mike’s message in my church.
I guess Easter means nothing to Mike, so sad.



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