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Fewer dioceses in Ireland?

posted by jmcgee

Evidently, that idea was floated during the recent meeting between the Irish bishops and the pope.

From the BBC:

Two of the Vatican’s most senior officials have raised the issue of reducing the number of dioceses in Ireland.

The Bishop of Down and Connor, Dr Noel Treanor, told BBC Radio Ulster’s Sunday Sequence it came up at the summit on clerical sex abuse in Rome last week.

It was mentioned by Cardinals Giovanni Battista Re and Tarcisio Bertone.

Cardinal Bertone is Vatican secretary of state, while Cardinal Re is prefect of the Congregation for Bishops.

“It was mentioned I think by Cardinal Bertone and possibly by Cardinal Re as well, but the issue was not discussed,” Bishop Treanor said.

“It is an issue that is certainly ad rem (important) in terms of the long-term reform of church procedures in Ireland.”



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posted February 22, 2010 at 2:22 pm


Unfortunately the Church is so discredited in Ireland that there may be no other choice.



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posted February 22, 2010 at 3:59 pm


Let’s face it…The RCC in Ireland has had it’s cover blown…and now they have to try and reinstate themselves. It’s going to take a few generations, if it ever happens. They aren’t used to having to do that, since they have run things so long in that country. Not sure I remember this accurately, but in listening to Public Radio recently, 60% of Irish Catholics no longer attend Mass.
If I was RC (and I’m obviouly not)it would take a lot for me to “trust” the RC again….a very long time, again, if ever.



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Franklin Jennings

posted February 22, 2010 at 5:23 pm


Pagansister is right.
I mean, look at what’s happened since the druidic class lost the confidence of the Irish people. They’re gone now, and their Cheeto-stained followers today could barely fill a hotel conference room.



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posted February 23, 2010 at 12:41 am


They shouldn’t used to having to do that, since they have run things so long in that country. Not sure I remember this accurately, but in listening to Public Radio recently, 60% of Irish Catholics no longer attend Mass.



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posted February 23, 2010 at 8:21 am


Like the waters at the Euphrates River in the Bible ran dry,so with the churches.The word of God,like light,is travelling all around the world illuminating to people,making the good news known to all corners of the earth because it is God’s will that His kingdom shall come.As long as there as people who testify about Jesus,about how their lives were transformed from something to nothing,the waters will continue to dry.



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Eka

posted February 23, 2010 at 2:20 pm


Unfortunately, the Irish people stopped attending mass in large numbers a generation ago due to many social changes. It’s much more complicated than the just abuse crisis, though tragically, it certainly has and will continue to exacerbate the problem.



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TeaPot562

posted February 24, 2010 at 12:05 am


Much prayer is needed. Problems with Catholics not attending Mass are NOT limited to Ireland. In the US, the two largest denominations are: 1) Catholics who attend Mass most Sundays, and 2) Catholics who may go to Church on Easter and Christmas. We need to pray for our priests, and for more priestly vocations. Again, more prayer is needed.
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Dr. MG Lazarus

posted July 25, 2010 at 11:15 am


Yes, more prayers are needed not just for Ireland, but for the whole world. The change in Ireland is not just because of the child abuse reports. It is just one of many reasons.



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