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Tim Tebow: no boasting

posted by jmcgee

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“For by grace you have been saved through faith, and this is not from you; it is the gift of God; it is not from works, so no one may boast. For we are his handiwork, created in Christ Jesus for the good works that God has prepared in advance, that we should live in them.”

– Biblical verse (Ephesians 2:8-10) painted on the face of college football star Tim Tebow yesterday.



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RP Burke

posted January 2, 2010 at 9:20 am


Boasting instead of how a good “Christian” man he is.



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ron chandonia

posted January 2, 2010 at 10:09 am


If they can figure out a way to discredit this guy, they will. I wonder how many reporters are assigned to sort his garbage, looking for evidence that he has feet of clay.



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J.C. Luchsinger

posted January 2, 2010 at 12:18 pm


Tim Tebow is an inspiration for all. The dedication and preserverance of this young man brought me back to watching College Football. The News media will do their bashing and anything else that can be done to discredit this Christian. Tim Tebow makes me proud to be an American, and his belief’s are a big part of this countries morals. The News media and the Politicians should take note of how the general public has been starving for a fellow American to look up to and show admiration too. I am not even a Gator fan. I am a fan of Tim Tebow and the Gators of the last four years because of the morals and discipline that have been shown. If more Americans would show compassion and that they are Christians, mabe this countries leadership would stop taking religion out of schools. For excample, one goes into a court house and there can be no religious flyers and such. Yet, when one gets on the stand to testify. One swears in on the bible. No prayer in school. Yet, one that goes to jail is given a bible. What is wrong with society? All pressure is on the politicians, news media and so forth to produce for money. I pray each day for this country to make changes for the bettter-ment of her people. Yet, the same dirty politicians remain in office and the new ones the garner office are just as corrupt. Isn’t it about time we had leadership in this country that exemplifies leadershipike Tim Tebow. If he doesn’t make it in football, I hope he goes into politics. May God continue to bless and guide Tim Tebow now and for therest of his life.



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Frank Hannon

posted January 2, 2010 at 2:04 pm


Hey, RP, it is for folks such as you that books such as Christopher Hitchens’ “The Missionary Position” were written, in which the author roundly pillories Mother Teresa for being a fraud.
Here’s to the hope that you become a much less cynical person, and therefore a happier one, by this new year’s completion, my friend!



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RP Burke

posted January 2, 2010 at 2:21 pm


Frank,
You don’t get it, do you. Take a look here, which states my issue extremely well:
http://www.onlyagame.org/2009/12/onward-christian-athletes/



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jestrfyl

posted January 2, 2010 at 3:17 pm


It’s is hard enough to avoid folks who wear their faith on their sleeve. But I am not at all impressed by someone whose faith is on their face! I realize he is filled with the enthusiasm of youth. Some day soon he will learn that this is no way to influence people, except in the negative. If he has to tell us he is a “christian” then maybe he is not making it clear enough in the way he lives.



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Deacon John Gerke

posted January 2, 2010 at 8:06 pm


Whether they like it or not, high profile athletes are role models for thousands and thousands of young people.
Lord knows we have enough high profile athletes whose lives seem to be ad campaigns for living lives of debauchery.
Perhaps its time that Tim Tebow and others like him to convince some people that Christianity if a lifestyle that they can follow enthusiastically.
God bless Mr. Tebow and keep him true to the message that he speaks.



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Joe

posted January 25, 2010 at 1:31 am


I have honestly never heard anyone trying to “discredit” Tebow as a Christian. I’ve heard sports commentators talk about weaknesses in his playing and his physique, especially when it comes to his stock in the draft. But I’ve never heard anyone question his religious beliefs. My gut reaction would be that such a claim is indicative of the notion that Christians in general are somehow persecuted in this country. For whatever reason there are a large number of Christians who really believe that society is against them. Such notions are really silly given the immense political power Christians have in this country as well as how many profess to be Christians.
In addition I thought I would quibble with a few of your points with how society treats Christianity. You are perfectly allowed to bring religious flyers with you to a court room. A courtroom cannot post religious flyers because the government isn’t allowed to endorse a particular religion according to the First Amendment. I’m not a fan of theocracies and I think they have been a really abysmal form of government throughout human history as well as in the present (e.g. Iran), so I rather like the establishment clause.
Also, I don’t know where Christians got this notion that prayer is banned in school. It isn’t. If a kid wishes to pray, provided he doesn’t interrupt class to do it, he can pray. If he wants to pray in the lunch room or before every class, no one can stop him. A school would be rightfully sued if it tried to stop this. What was banned was school teachers leading kids in prayer. Public school (none of this applies to private schools) officials cannot make prayer a mandatory (or even voluntary teacher led) part of a child’s school day. It goes back to the establishment clause, but a state run school cannot endorse or push a particular religious view. Given the dominance of protestant Christianity in this nation and the anti-Catholic views in certain areas of this country, I would have thought someone like you could understand why we don’t want government officials pushing particular religious beliefs onto children.



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