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Roll the credits: Hollywood’s Cardinal Mahony bowing out?

posted by jmcgee

So says the usually reliable Thomas “American Papist” Peters:

Cardinal Mahony.jpgI am hearing, on reliable authority, that the Cardinal Archbishop of Los Angeles, Roger Mahony, has approved a coadjutor bishop recently selected for him by the Holy See. This news – and the name – will be publicly announced “soon.”

This new bishop, once announced and appointed, will automatically succeed Mahony as the Archbishop of Los Angeles as soon as Mahony retires, presumably before Mahony’s mandatory retirement at age 75 (February 27, 2011). Mahony has said that the current class of seminarians will be the last one he personally ordains.

Some of the faculty at St. John’s Seminary – where new priests for the Archdiocese of Los Angeles are trained – have expressed concern that the new coadjutor bishop will lean more “conservative” than his predecessor, and some have even threatened to resign or retire if this turns out to be the case.

Stay tuned.

UPDATE: Comments have gotten out of control here.  I’m shutting them down. Dcn. G.  



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Deacon Tony

posted January 21, 2010 at 10:38 pm


If Priests and Seminarians in the LA Arch Diocese want to resign because the Pope appoints a new Bishop that actually follows the Church’s teaching, I say good riddance to them. As for the Arch Bishop, the sooner he retires the better for the Church.



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Deacon Anthony

posted January 22, 2010 at 1:41 am


Is that what is meant by “killing 2 birds with one stone”? Is it an appropriate sentiment for a Deacon to express? (Especially on the feast of ST Vincent).



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RGB

posted January 22, 2010 at 8:55 am


It was about time!



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RP Burke

posted January 22, 2010 at 9:53 am


If you think that Cardinal Mahony is a dangerous leftist, then your ideological compass needs recalibrating.



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RGB

posted January 22, 2010 at 10:12 am


The only recalibration needed is for the Cardinal to retire… none too soon!



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Dante

posted January 22, 2010 at 10:48 am


Resign? Retire? AMEN! ALLELUIA! Finally we might be set free and allowed to rejoice in a totally Catholic church environment. Our Lady, Queen of Angels, pray for us.



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paul

posted January 22, 2010 at 10:57 am


Cardinal Mahony is not dangerous, but he is certainly left-leaning. His being an icon of progressive American Catholicism is undeniable.
The naming of his replacement could be a significant statement from Rome, even as the lineup of Midwestern bishops is currently being reworked (Here in OKC, the countdown for a new archbishop just started ticking).
The language of Rocco’s latest posts, cryptic as always, suggests this will happen rather soon. Get the popcorn!



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Tom

posted January 22, 2010 at 11:45 am


Some of the faculty at St. John’s Seminary – where new priests for the Archdiocese of Los Angeles are trained – have expressed concern that the new coadjutor bishop will lean more “conservative” than his predecessor, and some have even threatened to resign or retire if this turns out to be the case.
Good grief!  You could throw a dart out the window and hit a candidate that leans more “conservative” than His Excellency, Cardinal Mahoney (and I thought conservative traditionalists were supposed to be the most rigid and intolerant).



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Fran Rossi Szpylczyn

posted January 22, 2010 at 11:49 am


There are many bishops with whom I take issue, but as a Catholic, I find more and more that I do not want to publicly decry them. I am so sorry to see such vitriol about Cardinal Mahony here. When I lived in Los Angeles, I was always edified to see him in our parish and also by his presence in the Cathedral. He is a very pastoral man in my experience.
It is very easy to criticize, isn’t it? Of course, things went south for Cardinal Mahony moer than 10 years ago when Mother Angelica took him to task.
It is a big church and we are in the midst of all the good Pauline readings about many gifts. Why can’t we see them, thus seeing God, in on another? That is my question.



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Your Name

posted January 22, 2010 at 12:09 pm


“They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles.” Scripture can be pretty harsh on people.



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Mark Gauer

posted January 22, 2010 at 12:14 pm


Bowing out? He should be booted out in shame. Mahony’s record in the sexual abuse of children by perverted priests under his watch is deplorable. He cares for only himself like many of the Cardinals and Bishops. Watch “Deliver us from Evil” to witness what a crook Mahony really is. He is a wolf in sheeps clothing!!



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Jeannie

posted January 22, 2010 at 4:45 pm


Is it possible that Cardinal Mahoney is afraid that he might suffer the same fate and embarrassment as his fellow cardinals and bishops in Ireland, who knowingly shuffled Priest Pedophiles from one parish to another for decades, by also being asked by his parishioners and the press, “to step down?” By finding an early replacement, the Vatican is also freed from suffering the embarrassment of having another Cardinal, Archbishop or Bishop being forced, publically, “to step aside.”
The only other Cardinal, whose track record in handling Pedophile Priests was about as bad as Mahoney’s, is good, old Cardinal Law of Boston. Remember, Law was amply rewarded by the Vatican for his efforts in adeptly handling coverups of Priest Pedophilia, thereby not bringing SCANDAL to the Church, by being awarded by the Vatican with the exalted position of Prelate to the Church of Santa Maria Majore in Rome.
Maybe Pope Benedict has told Cardinal Law that it’s time that he retire, because his position and Church in Rome are needed by a fellow-Cardinal, for the purpose of avoiding legal indictments embarrassments, just as he did in 2002.
Believe me, if Mahoney is stepping down, it’s because he has seen the proverbial “Writing on the Wall.” In the event that he has forgotten what it is, let me refresh his mind, “”Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin.” It’s time to run, Roger, to the Church built on “7 hills!” May you share fully in Her fate!



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Georgina

posted January 22, 2010 at 5:44 pm


To see that Graceless Traitor to our church leave our archdiocese will be a wonderful day. And his departure can’t come too soon



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RGB

posted January 22, 2010 at 7:09 pm


Jeannie: we share the same disgust with Cardinal Mahoney but you err in condemning the Church. The Church that stands on one hill, Vatican Hill, is the One True Church and despite all her unfaithful and even wicked and evil members. The Universal Church founded by Christ will stand and the gates of hell will not prevail. Yet, some of the wolves in sheep clothing will have their time under the sun. Cardinal Mahoney was involved in the schemes you mention and he will be judged for it in the Etrnal Justice Hall.



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Deacon Patrick

posted January 22, 2010 at 10:47 pm


I am sorry to see this blog sink to a new low with allowing so many ad hominem attacks and name calling at Cardinal Mahoney. Healthy differences can be expressed with real dialogue and mutual respect but name calling is really a dead end.
It might help to keep the Cardinal’s situation in context, he has been in charge of the largest diocese in the US for almost 25 years, and the demands and challenges of the office must be incredible, so it is a real help to have a coadjutor bishop spend the last year before the mandatory retirement age is reached. It is not that uncommon for a coadjutor bishop to be appointed and there is no reason to believe that this is some special arrangement from the Vatican. Just the size and demands of the archdiocese will overwhelm anyone so it is very prudent to have the new bishop have a whole year to work with the Cardinal and have time to learn and observe.
The importance of Los Angeles is critical for the US church, as the Hispanic presence grows greater in the US church places like LA , Dallas and Atlanta will be what NY, Boston and St Louis were in the past. (it would be great if the coadjutor is Hispanic!)
Regards to the part about seminary professors leaving the seminary, I have found never to believe anything that is on blogs until it comes from the source. And even if it turns out to be true, I think it is just sensationalism to put too much emphasis on it. This happens often when there are administrative changes all the time. Sometimes the professor seeks a new place and sometimes the Cardinal cleans house to put in men he prefers (as Cardinal Eagan did when he took over in NY).



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Ted

posted January 23, 2010 at 8:29 am


To all of those who do not want a more conservative Bishop take over for Cardinal Mahoney and threaten publicly to resign or retire – Go ahead and resign or retire as soon as possible – the sooner you rebrobate are out of the way the better for the flock. Jesus Christ is cleaning house and the priestly abuse scandal has become a blessing for the Roman Catholic Church in America in that it has purged the church of many evil minded sick men who should not be in a position to ruin lives through their uncontrolled lusts. We need to pray for Cardinal Mahoney and pray for all of those wayward priests who have been nothing but a stumbling block to any Catholic seeking to follow Jesus Christ.



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Ted

posted January 23, 2010 at 8:33 am


It is interesting to note that the Cardinal is preparing to leave when he turns 75 years old – he almost knows that the Vatican will accept his retirement! Many good Cardinals and Bishops who send their notice of turning 75 in the past decade have had their retirement plans rejected as the Holy Father has asked them to stay on. There doesn’t seem to be this possibility in the case of this Cardinal. I find this very telling…….



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Elizabeth Murphy

posted January 23, 2010 at 8:34 am


In re Deacon Patrick’s comments on ad hominem attacks on Cardinal Mahoney – perhaps it would be better to launch ad lupum attacks.



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Ted from New Jersey

posted January 23, 2010 at 8:50 am


By the way yesterday I attended the annual march for Life in Washington DC. This year there were an estimated 400,000 in attendance. There were several bishops in attendance, Cardinals, hundreds and hundreds of priests and nuns. It was a great day for people of faith to stand up against the greatest evil taking place in society today – Abortion! I will also pray now until I die for Cardinal Mahoney and the priests of his diocese. I ask anyone who reads this to do the same asking our Lord through the intercession of our Mother Mary to grant to them the greatest graces and when they die to take them all into Heaven.



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Roman Collar

posted January 23, 2010 at 9:13 am


Throw him out feet first, One of the Worst men who ever became a priest, may God have mercey on his soul. Too many scandels attached to his name and I hope the good Lord will take care of him too.



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Jude

posted January 23, 2010 at 9:58 am


This is the man who tried to remove Mother Angelica from EWTN, and who tried to turn EWTN into some kind of liberal station in his image. I will be glad when he’s gone, along with his liberal followers at the seminary. May he live a long and happy life in retirement.



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Jim

posted January 23, 2010 at 10:03 am


“…and some have even threatened to resign or retire if this turns out to be the case.” All the more reason for us to pray that this happens soon! Why do the faculty think that the faithful should take this as a threat? We should just consider their resignations and retirements as a bonus!



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Kenjiro Shoda

posted January 23, 2010 at 10:16 am


Mahoney has been an embarassement to the faithful American Catholics for years, and to the Vatican as well. He is a radical dissenting liberal, very much i the mold of the late, un-great Joseph Cardinal Bernardin (d. 1996) who reigned supreme as the High Priest of Catholic dissent from about 1970 until his death. Bernardin unfortunatly was a favorite in Rome during the time of Paul VI, and into the reign of John Paul II. He was influential in getting dozens of radical, dissenting bisiops appointed to USA dioceses. Many of these men were closet homosexuals who protected predatory priests, and who supported an underground culture of homosexuality in seminaries and in dioceses. Mahony was among this group of dissenting priests rewarded with major appointments. Now he is 74. One year to go. Considering the scandal he has caused for years, it is about time. Hopefully his co-coadjutor is a priest or bishop in the mold of Archbishop Raymond Burke in the Vatican, or another strongly traditionalist Catholic.
The old guard of radical liberal bishops,priests, nuns and cardinals are quickly passing from the scene. To their utmost surprise (and in some cases anger), their successors are strongly traditionalists.
Let’s hope the same holds true for Los Angeles.



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Stella

posted January 23, 2010 at 10:17 am


Thank The Good Lord! if this is true. It has been a long time coming in the hearts of the faithful. Los Angeles has been a cesspool of rebellion and scandal for so long. The idea that “some” of the seminarians from this last group that Mahoney ordains may quit if he resigns confirms my point. The idea! Are they serving God or are they serving His Church?? Let them go. And the idea that Mahoney has to “approve” the coadjutor the Holy See sends is ludicrous. Mahoney has to go when his time comes UNLESS HE is given the okay to stay. Good riddance!



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Louis

posted January 23, 2010 at 10:29 am


With all his liberal/leftist beliefs that run counter to the Church and the scandels he brought not only to Los Angeles, but also when he was bishop in Stockon, how has Mahony been allowed to stay on as a cardinal. He is a truly corrupt person. Good riddens.



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