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Amen

posted by deacon greg kandra
“Whoever murdered George Tiller has done a gravely wicked thing. The evil of this action is in no way diminished by the blood George Tiller had on his own hands. No private individual had the right to execute judgment against him. We are a nation of laws. Lawless violence breeds only more lawless violence. Rightly or wrongly, George Tilller was acquitted by a jury of his peers. “Vengeance is mine, says the Lord.’ For the sake of justice and right, the perpetrator of this evil deed must be prosecuted, convicted, and punished. By word and deed, let us teach that violence against abortionists is not the answer to the violence of abortion. Every human life is precious. George Tiller’s life was precious. We do not teach the wrongness of taking human life by wrongfully taking a human life.”

Robert P. George, McCormick Professor of Jurisprudence at Princeton University.


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Ron

posted May 31, 2009 at 10:05 pm


Quite a number of pro-life leaders have issued similar statements, or will issue them shortly. Each one will probably just fuel the media spin on this case. The AP article that will appear in most papers tomorrow actually states that Tiller’s death was one in a “string of killings” of abortion providers. (Only in passing does it mention that the last such murder took place ELEVEN YEARS AGO.) The next step will be an editorial appeal for pro-lifers to “tone down the rhetoric,” especially all references to abortion as murder. No doubt we will read learned commentary like “If Professor George were serious, he himself would not say . . . ” followed by a list of the points George made in his recent debate with Kmiec at CUA. I don’t know any good response to that. It’s like saying that people should avoid criticizing drug dealers for fear somebody will fly off the handle and kill one of them.



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Deacon Alex Breviario

posted May 31, 2009 at 10:10 pm


Lots of interesting comments about this tragic situation, but without knowing the actual facts, there seems to be a lot of assumptions about what the motivation may have been…Let’s wait to hear from the suspect in custody before we pass judgement on the situation…Peace…



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The Ironic Catholic

posted May 31, 2009 at 10:32 pm


Amen indeed.



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Joe

posted June 1, 2009 at 8:37 am


and the discussion will never advance to the circumstances of Tiller's Abortion Services, that women went to Kansas after receiving a dire diagnosis for their unborn child.Trisomey 13 & 18 ,PKD, Spins Bifada et al. Why do prospective parents resort to this action? Fear, lack of knowledge and support, a cultural bias against the handicapped are the motivators. Until men and women of Goodwill come to these peoples aid and provide human alternatives to late term abortion there will always be more George Tillers. I wonder if many Pro-Lifer's would be as hostile to Tiller and his ilk if they were aware of this reality. I



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Mr Flapatap

posted June 1, 2009 at 11:15 am


This morning, the local NBC coverage was surreal. The only images that they used were those of a candelight vigil and one of Tiller holding a small US flag. I thought that I was watching a “Simpsons” skit.



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St Edwards Blog

posted June 1, 2009 at 7:15 pm


A man has died senselessly… I pray for the respect of all life, including Dr. Tiller's.Let's not forget that the composer of Amazing Grace dealt in slavery. Amazing grace, how sweet the sound – that saved a wretch like me.God have mercy on us all – that is all I can say in the end.



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Greta

posted June 2, 2009 at 12:37 am


Ever wonder about things like this? A recent movie about Claus Philipp Maria Schenk Graf von Stauffenberg (15 November 1907 – 20 July 1944), a German army officer and Roman Catholic aristocrat who was one of the leading members of the failed 20 July plot of 1944 to kill German dictator Adolf Hitler. He is viewed as a hero for his failed attempt. Had he not failed, he would have had an even more favorable position in history. When is murder OK? Is it OK to kill to stop evil as with Hitler? When is it not OK? If someone sees a person holding a gun or bomb in a classroom with hundreds of kids and have an opportunity to end that persons life, is that evil or would that person be viewed as a hero? If he had already killed half the kids, would there be any doubt the person who stopped this evil would be a hero.I am not condoning the murder of Tiller for I think it hurts the pro life cause in some respects. However, it is always strange to me how society makes its judgements on when and how to stop evil. Is there any question that Tiller was evil? He had killed an estimated 60,000 infants and was one of the early proponents of partial birth abortion. During a trial on this procedure, the defense admited that the baby feels the pain and yet this abortion is brutal by any measure including the torture dialogue that has gone on over the past couple of years. It is also reported Tiller annual income was over $1,000,000. What OB do you know that makes that kind of income. So lets also not make this guy a hero. The press simply reported that he was an abortion doctor, but wonder how the sentiment would have been if they gave the full story of how he did his abortions and the proven pain the infant went through. Who cried when Saddam was hanged or his sons shot after we heard of their brutality and killing of complete villages? Did the people who said we should not have gone into Iraq cry out in anger or shock at the death of these slimeballs. Is the world better off with or without them or Tiller? Would we have been better off without Hitler in 1944 when Stauffenberg made his attempted killing of Hitler and others who happened to be in the same bunker? Tiller was not alone in the killing of 50,000,000 infants, but his specialty of partial birth abortions placed him in my mind up there with Josef Mengele, the angel of death. I will not cry for this guy. I will pray for God to deliver His mercy and leave it up to God to determine Tiller’s place in eternal history. However, I will also pray for the person who committed the act. It will be interesting to see the type of justice and mercy they get and if one day down the road, they will be remembered as the Stauffenberg of our day. Will we be like the german people of the 1930-40′s who were often asked, how did you let this happen? Once again, this post is simply one to promote thought as to how we judge evil today. Is it when it is legal it is OK as with slavery in our country or the actions in Germany when the then legal government passed evil laws to allow Jews to be treated as they were? Is it OK for our country to go after Castro or the murder of the president of S. Vietnam under the Kennedy’s? Were are in the process of passing legislation to outlaw hate. what if a priest says something about a gay lifestyle being intrinsically evil and he is shot as a result by a gay person? I think we all need to take a hard look at all life before we continue down this road to a full culture of death expansion. However, being PC and not talking about issues does not work. Sometimes it takes some harsh dialogue and challenging actions as happened with the civil rights marches. Would Martin Luther King have been as effective if there were not a Malcolm X and the black panthers? God can make good things happen out of evil events committed by man. Maybe we can see something good come out of all this mess.



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