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Dolan on the Domers: “They made a big mistake”

posted by deacon greg kandra
“They made a big mistake. There’s a lot of things that President Obama does that we can find ourselves allied with and working with him on, and we have profound respect for him and pray with him and for him. But in an issue that is very close to the heart of Catholic world view, namely, the protection of innocent life in the womb, he has unfortunately taken a position very much at odds with the Church.”

– Departing Milwaukee Archbishop Timothy Dolan
(soon to be the big miter-wearer in Manhattan), commenting on the Notre Dame debacle.
You can watch his interview on the subject right here.


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BC

posted March 29, 2009 at 4:05 pm


I will defiantly miss this holy servant of God. A brilliant quote that sums it up best.



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Deacon John M. Bresnahan

posted March 29, 2009 at 9:46 pm


When new president George Washington was asked how he wanted to be addressed–”Your eminence??” “Your highness??” “Your excellency??” etc. He replied: “Mr. President would be fine.” Consequently, I find it hard to comprehend some of the arguments being put forward as to why Notre Dame must go ahead and give an honorary degree to President Obama–especially arguments from some Catholics. Arguments like: “You just CAN”T turn away a president” and “A president has a right to go onto any college campus he wants to” and “It is a president who honors a university by going there” and “How dare anyone even think of embarrassing a president.” So when did the president of the U.S. (any president) become virtually a demi-god??? When did we start regarding him as virtually a highness, excellency, or eminence and with total disregard as to whether he has done anything of actual accomplishment worthy of special honor. Some of this worship of the office of president is getting scary. As I type this the CEO of Gm has been forced out of his job by Obama , just as the head of the insurance giant was forced out by Bush. Can fascism be far behind?? Is the “Roman republic” on the road to becoming the “Byzantine Empire???”



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Greta

posted March 29, 2009 at 10:46 pm


The steady drip of another bishop coming out every day or so against this decision has to be very damaging to ND. By the time obama gets to ND, there may be a very strong statement that has to be made if this is allowed to continue. Dolan is clearly one of the big guns in the American Catholic Church at this point by virtue of his selection for NY. I found the interview very interesting on a number of fronts where he clearly states that there are non negotiable issues for Catholics and those who say no to them place themselves out of the Church. He is going to be fun to watch as he heads into the belly of the beast.



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Lankester

posted March 30, 2009 at 7:51 am


However, I think Dolan is wrong on one particular point – if any Catholic thinks they will find common ground “with” Obama, they are in denial or already dead. This man and his administration is the greatest threat to Catholicism and morality since the British Crown. You cannot understand what is coming unless you are a student of history. We have seen all of this before and we were in denial then and we are in denial now. Wake up before it is too late!



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Thomas Scott

posted March 30, 2009 at 11:44 am


Wow – that’s a great way to form or shape the dialog. AB Dolan does a fine job of defending Church teaching and drawing the right line while still treating Obama with some respect and leaving judgment out.It’s only through this type of firm yet non-judgmental dialog that Obama will see Catholics less as a stereotype. I pray that Obama does have a conversion of conscience.



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Greta

posted March 30, 2009 at 11:15 pm


Yep, you have to be an eternal optomist to think that there is common ground to work on with a Democrate, let alone one as radical and socialist as this guy.How about the one Bishop Dolan talks about that could shut down every Catholic hospital in the country if they force doctors and hospitals to perform abortions or support their baby killing agenda? Of course that could also mean that doctors who are Catholic would also have to stop practicing or give up their soul. How about the use of humans for medical research paid for with tax dollars where human embryo’s are sent to the Josef Mengele research center for experimentation? Nope, no common ground here.Well there is Foca where Obama and the democrats what to stop any state from enacting any protection of the unborn to silence anyone that still loves babies. Nope, no room thereOh yes, the liberal social catholics who think that big government give aways to the poor help them when the opposite is true proven by LBJ great society that destroyed poor families strong unit leaving behind its wreckage that even Clinton had to admit when he signed the end of welfare as we know it and the era of big government. How about on war. The Church had issues on the Iraq war. Obama had issues with Iraq and promised to get everyone out but in office he is finding that to do so makes no sense wo he has adopted the Bush position on Iraq. He is sending more troops for a mini surge to Afghanistan. He wanst to keep is small on our support because he is so loved by France and Germany he knows he can count on Eurrope to help us out with trooops there. But in ares of war, how to fight poverty, and the death penalty, what most ObamaCaths do not seem to understand is that these are not non negotiable areas and so people in the Church can have different opinions and remain Catholic. If only they were Catholics, they might actually know its teaching.



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grechattard

posted March 31, 2009 at 4:52 am


What a shame on Notre dame university and its students! They should not carry any more the name of Our Lady! While the pope is all the time dialogging with non-Christians, they have done exactly the opposite and ruined a possible face to face dialogue with the most powerful president of the world. Lasst year, in Rome, the university students were shunned by Catholics for refusing the Pope. And catholics are now praising the same action!! Should we not practice more than preach or else we would be called hypocrites? Shame even more on all the clergy who initiated and supported all this. And then we wonder why religion is fading away! Actions speak louder than words. And such actions are always negative! Jesus invited himself to sinners’ homes and dined with them!! Notre dame should show the world they are true Christians and forward an apology. Catholicism is not politics. Let us not use it for our political prejudices.



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