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A radical question: “Do you want to be a bishop? Or a priest?”

Here’s something to get the wheels turning.

Take a gander at this provocative post by Rod Dreher, pondering these words by Saul Alinsky, a radical who had a profound effect on Barack Obama:

Each year, for a number of years, the activists in the graduating class from a major Catholic seminary near Chicago would visit me for a day just before their ordination, with questions about values, revolutionary tactics, and such. Once, at the end of such a day, one of the seminarians said, “Mr. Alinsky, before we came here we met and agreed that there was one question we particularly wanted to put to you. We’re going to be ordained, and then we’ll be assigned to different parishes, as assistants to — frankly — stuffy, reactionary old pastors. They will disapprove of a lot of what you and we believe in, and we will be put into a killing routine. Our question is: how do we keep our faith in true Christian values, everything we hope to do to change the system?”

That was easy, I answered. “When you go out that door, just make your own personal decision about whether you want to be a bishop or a priest, and everything else will follow.”

I have to say, even considering the source, those words say something for all of us, no matter what your vocation or station in life.

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posted September 30, 2008 at 2:56 pm

As a big Alinsky historian & Catholic, I find this beyond disturbing. I’ve been warning of the perils of Saul Alinsky since Hilary Clinton did her thesis on him. If you understand “Alinsky”, you understand the Democratic Party; at least the far left side which made me leave. It’s like a veil gets lifted. The thing that’s making me crazy is that the MSM is TOTALLY IGNORING OBAMA’S education and ties to it, but then, that’s part of the “Alinsky plan too.” Thank God for blogs and talk radio, but I’m not sure the msg. will even be heard. I’m sad to say that for many who are drunk on the Kool-aid, they don’t even WANT truth. I agree with Rod, it’s BRILLIANT, but then, so is Lucifer.Wow, I am just stunned by this. I am well aware of Bella Dodd, (which I never understand why that communist infestation of priests isn’t more well known), but I was naïve enough to think that by attrition, we were getting most of the Dodd“smoke” out.As Mother Mary tells us, pray, pray, pray. What else can we do?

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posted September 30, 2008 at 11:49 pm

Klaire, if you write about Alinsky like that, it’s apparent that you understand nothing about him. I’m glad that those priests sought him out, as they understood Christ’s call. So, in his own way, did Alinsky. His enemies don’t.

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posted October 1, 2008 at 10:28 am

Sorry Michael. Just asking, but maybe YOU don’t understand the authentic teachings of Christ? Also, don’t lose sight of the fact that Alinsky was a stauch athiest with “Lucifer” as his mentor. And never, never, underestimate the brilliance of the angle of “light.”Here’s a weigh in from Pope BenedictTruth and Tolerance [W]here the Marxist ideology of liberation had been consistently applied, a total lack of freedom had developed, whose horrors were now laid bare before the eyes of the entire world. Wherever politics tries to be redemptive, it is promising too much. Where it wishes to do the work of God, it becomes not divine, but demonic.

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posted October 1, 2008 at 7:08 pm

Klaire, by their fruits we know them. Alinsky did more good than most priests. I’m sorry you feel and think as you do.

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