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And they’ll know we are Christians by our love, by our love…

posted by deacon greg kandra

I confess: I’m not an Ann Coulter fan. I once described her as the Madonna of the far right — ready and willing to say anything to get a reaction (usually that reaction is bewilderment and shock.)

But now she really has crossed a line, and I’m not sure she realizes just how far out of bounds she’s stepped:

Appearing on Donny Deutsch’s CNBC show, “The Big Idea,” on Monday night, columnist/author Ann Coulter suggested that the U.S. would be a better place if there weren’t any Jewish people and that they had “perfected” themselves into — Christians.

It led Deutsch to suggest that surely he couldn’t mean that, and when she insisted she did, he said this sounded “anti-Semitic.”

Asked by Deutsch regarding whether she wanted to be like “the head of Iran” and “wipe Israel off the Earth,” Coulter stated: “No, we just want Jews to be perfected, as they say. … That’s what Christianity is. We believe the Old Testament.”

A transcript, provided by Media Matters, follows.

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DEUTSCH: Christian — so we should be Christian? It would be better if we were all Christian?

COULTER: Yes.

DEUTSCH: We should all be Christian?

COULTER: Yes. Would you like to come to church with me, Donny?

DEUTSCH: So I should not be a Jew, I should be a Christian, and this would be a better place?

COULTER: Well, you could be a practicing Jew, but you’re not.

DEUTSCH: I actually am. That’s not true. I really am. But — so we would be better if we were – if people — if there were no Jews, no Buddhists –

COULTER: Whenever I’m harangued by –

DEUTSCH: — in this country? You can’t believe that.

COULTER: — you know, liberals on diversity –

DEUTSCH: Here you go again.

COULTER: No, it’s true. I give all of these speeches at megachurches across America, and the one thing that’s really striking about it is how utterly, completely diverse they are, and completely unself-consciously. You walk past a mixed-race couple in New York, and it’s like they have a chip on their shoulder. They’re just waiting for somebody to say something, as if anybody would. And –

DEUTSCH: I don’t agree with that. I don’t agree with that at all. Maybe you have the chip looking at them. I see a lot of interracial couples, and I don’t see any more or less chips there either way. That’s erroneous.

COULTER: No. In fact, there was an entire Seinfeld episode about Elaine and her boyfriend dating because they wanted to be a mixed-race couple, so you’re lying.

DEUTSCH: Oh, because of some Seinfeld episode? OK.

COULTER: But yeah, I think that’s reflective of what’s going on in the culture, but it is completely striking that at these huge megachurches — the idea that, you know, the more Christian you are, the less tolerant you would be is preposterous.

DEUTSCH: That isn’t what I said, but you said I should not — we should just throw Judaism away and we should all be Christians, then, or –

COULTER: Yeah.

DEUTSCH: Really?

COULTER: Well, it’s a lot easier. It’s kind of a fast track.

DEUTSCH: Really?

COULTER: Yeah. You have to obey.

DEUTSCH: You can’t possibly believe that.

COULTER: Yes.

DEUTSCH: You can’t possibly — you’re too educated, you can’t — you’re like my friend in –

COULTER: Do you know what Christianity is? We believe your religion, but you have to obey.

DEUTSCH: No, no, no, but I mean –

COULTER: We have the fast-track program.

DEUTSCH: Why don’t I put you with the head of Iran? I mean, come on. You can’t believe that.

COULTER: The head of Iran is not a Christian.

DEUTSCH: No, but in fact, “Let’s wipe Israel” –

COULTER: I don’t know if you’ve been paying attention.

DEUTSCH: “Let’s wipe Israel off the earth.” I mean, what, no Jews?

COULTER: No, we think — we just want Jews to be perfected, as they say.

DEUTSCH: Wow, you didn’t really say that, did you?

COULTER: Yes. That is what Christianity is. We believe the Old Testament, but ours is more like Federal Express. You have to obey laws. We know we’re all sinners –

DEUTSCH: In my old days, I would have argued — when you say something absurd like that, there’s no –

COULTER: What’s absurd?

DEUTSCH: Jews are going to be perfected. I’m going to go off and try to perfect myself –

COULTER: Well, that’s what the New Testament says.

DEUTSCH: Ann Coulter, author of If Democrats Had Any Brains, They’d Be Republicans, and if Ann Coulter had any brains, she would not say Jews need to be perfected. I’m offended by that personally. And we’ll have more Big Idea when we come back.

You can continue at the link for more of Coulter’s own brand of compassionate conservatisim. With Christians like Coulter roaming the hills, no wonder young people are leery of the faith.

UPDATE: That doyenne of razor-sharp bloggery, The Anchoress, lets Coulter have it with both barrels right here.



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Anonymous

posted October 11, 2007 at 8:32 pm


I’m not surprised that a CBS employee would cite a hacked transcript peddled by a leftist group to attack a conservative pundit. I guess such folks have run out of doctored Texas Air National Guard documents.I am surprised that any Catholic cleric would be shocked by the notion that we should all hope that non-Christians join us in the fullness of Christ.



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Patm

posted October 12, 2007 at 12:57 am


I think most Catholics DO hope non- Christians would join us in the fullness of Christ, and without being repelled by the way they’re invited.



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Deacon Greg Kandra

posted October 12, 2007 at 7:31 am


Anon:Of course I hope that “non-Christians join us in the fullness of Christ.” But obviously, going on national television to tell the Jews they need to be “perfected” isn’t the way to achieve that. Blessings,Dcn G.



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Deacon John M. Bresnahan

posted October 12, 2007 at 1:37 pm


Ann Coulter is sure abrasive. However, many Catholics –even clergy and theologians have gone too far on the diversity kick. That is why Pope John Paul II had to issue a statement reaffirming that there is one Lord and Saviour::Jesus Christ. –And Pope Benedict XVI had to issue a statement reminding Catholics that there is One True Holy and Apostolic Catholic Church. Some prominent Catholics seem to have the missionary zeal of a sloth. Maybe Catholic and Christian Truth should only be promoted in back alleys and only by quiet whispering in people’s ears. However, this is not the stance of the currently two most successful missionary religions:: Islam and Fundamentalist-Evangelical Christianity. In fact Ann Coulter’s “method” is fast turning what was formerly 100% Roman Catholic Latin America into a sea of Evangelical Protestantism.



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Bridey

posted October 12, 2007 at 5:38 pm


Ann Coulter’s remarks here are disrespectful, tactless, tasteless, and crude — not that that is anything new or surprising from this source. I am Catholic and would love to see the day that all men live in the light of Christ and embrace the one true faith. But Coulter’s caricature of a Christian ideal will likely arouse only anger and disgust. I don’t approve of polemicists on general principles, but at least the breed can be capable of wit. Coulter is just a dirty little kid shouting naughty words to shock the grownups.



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Deacon John M. Bresnahan

posted October 12, 2007 at 7:29 pm


In checking around I have discovered many individual Jewish converts or groups of Jewish converts to Christianity (both Catholic and Protestant) frequently refer to themselves as “perfected” or “completed” Jews. So don’t get too angry at Ann Coulter–your anger may be insulting to some of the newest and strongest converts to the Christian or Catholic Faith who are the apparent originators of using those words.



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marchiano

posted October 14, 2007 at 7:04 pm


yeah… i’m agree with deacon john.there’s someone like that too at my place. he refers his convertion to catholic as being ‘perfected’



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cady

posted October 18, 2007 at 4:10 am


Yes.I agree with deacon john too. Love makes color-blind. http://www.interracialfriends.com can make more friends.



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