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Suicide is not the answer

Yesterday a person who posted in the Comments Section here without a name indicated that he was close to suicide. I need to respond to that post, and I invite you to do the same. Here is the comment as originally entered…

No Name
November 12, 2008 8:31 AM
I am as close to suicide as I have ever been. It terrifies me. Im 32, i have my health, I have 2 beautiful young children whom I adore, a wife who has wisdom and kindness that blows me away. I have read your books several times, they changed my outlook, I love your books and I believe the message. But believing is not the same as experiencing. I am unable to experience it…..
Reading so much of what you wrote was more like being reminded of things I already new instinctively, it wasn’t like I was learning new stuff.
But here I am, now, in the moment. And I just want it to end. I loathe this world, I feel like I was supposed to be something, to do something to make it better, but that I’ll never know what it is.
Words fail me, confusion imprisons me here, I wish I could type more through the buzzing behind my eyes. Its the tears that wont come and they sting like hell.

My dear friend…I want to invite you to read Home with God in a Life That Never Ends. In it you will find a remarkable commentary on ending one’s life, on what is accomplished by doing that, and on what occurs as a result of such a decision.
As I read your post the first thing that struck me is your age. I am 65, my friend, and I can tell you that you have many more years to go in which to “do something” to make life better for yourself and for everyone whose life you touch. My present work in the world did not begin until I was 53 years old. All the rest was preparation. Do not mistake “preparation” for failure. Something immensely important is gained during the years we are preparing to make our major contribution. Do not confuse gain with loss. There is nothing lost in learning, and all the experience of all the years will serve you dramatically one day.
There are several important questions to look at during this time in your life — and you could do well to spend years exploring them. The Four Profound Questions of Life are:
1. Who am I?
2. Where am I?
3. Why am I where I am?
4. What am I doing here?
Take a year each for every question. Look into these inquiries deeply. You are a young man. You have already, by your own accounting, been gifted with so much. Now gift yourself with the treasure of Time. Have patience with yourself. Allow life to bring you the right and perfect opportunities to express and experience your highest self.
I want to encourage you to read an extraordinary book by Byron Katie titled Loving What Is. And then to go to Byron Katie’s website and learn all you can about The Work. What is “The Work”? Check it out. It is too much to go into here.
Thanksgiving is nearly upon us. The winter holy days are coming. Get in touch with gratitude, and with God, during these days. Read Happier Than God. It gives you some very practical tools in achieving inner peace. Then order an advance copy of When Everything Changes, Change Everything: In a Time of Turmoil, a Doorway to Peace. This is my latest book, and it will be published in April. Advance orders may be placed at Hampton Roads Publishing Company. Look them up on the Internet.
Write me again when you’ve finished with Happier Than God. I want to know what you think of it and whether it provided you with any tools you found useful.
And more on all this in my next entry here…



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Kellie Kilchenman

posted November 12, 2008 at 11:11 am


Hi Neal,
I pray that your message to the young man who so yearns to end his life will get through to him. I can’t imagine the pain he must be feeling, and I will pray for him. Even though these are very challenging times we live in to say the least, we desparately need more messangers like yourself to give solace and help. God bless you.



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Grieving Mother

posted November 12, 2008 at 11:14 am


Dear Struggling Dad,
My precious son died by suicide earlier this year. Like you, he believed there was no way out of the dark hole he was in. Perhaps he beleived all of us who love him would be better off without him. We are not. Instead we have been cast into a prison of grief that we must fight every day to escape. How we must find reason to go on.
What I have learned is that you most likely are in desperate need of medical intervention before you can even begin to address whatever issues have you feeling hopeless. I urge you to see a physician immediately. Ask your wife or a friend to go with you. If you’re not ready for that step, call the National Association for Suicide Prevention lifeline at 1-800-273-TALK (8255). Help is available. For your own sake and for those who love you, I urge you to call today. My prayers are with you.



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Amy

posted November 12, 2008 at 12:05 pm


Neale,
I just only recently discovered your blog here. It’s excellent. Look forward to reading more.
To this brother, I sincerely encourage him to keep on. If you are reading this, my own brother took his life back in 1995. I was 17, he was 23.
I just published a book, which I hope you can also purchase, which discusses his ordeal and how his death impacted myself, my parents…deeply.
My book is titled: Orphaned Into Belonging, and you can buy it here:
http://www.lulu.com/content/4781677
Even though I do not even know you, I know that God loves you, and I love you as a sister in Christ.
Please also feel free to visit my blogpage, if you’d like to read other posts, or even to send me an email directly. The web address is below my name here…
Blessings,
~Amy :)
http://amyiswalkinginthespirit.blogspot.com



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SheerLuckHolmes

posted November 12, 2008 at 12:15 pm


I don’t think that there is a person on this planet that has not thought about suicide, if not actually contemplated it. There have been several times I have contemplated it myself.
When everything seems to be pushing in and there is nowhere to turn, it becomes the darkest. Sitting in the dark, beating up on yourself for not being enough, not being strong enough, smart enough, or whatever does little good. The real strength comes from looking yourself in the eye and being willing to accept what is happening in your life regardless of self judgments or feared outcomes. The worst that can happen is that everything will fall apart, you will lose everything and everyone will turn their backs on you. Many of the most successful people on this planet have experienced that very experience. They got through it. They came out on the other side better people for the experience of it.
Does that make it easier? No. But it can give you hope or a perspective that will allow you to deal.
Neale is right about the gratitude. Not only about the obvious bright spots in your life, but the dark areas as well. Steel is brittle until tested, heated, beat upon at an anvil repeatedly over and over. Life is the same. Until we are tested over and over again we will not discover how strong we truly are.



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Your Name

posted November 12, 2008 at 12:37 pm


Please know that the issues that bring one to contemplate suicide do not miraculously disappear upon death. CwG teaches us that the soul returns to whatever is left unresolved in this life cycle so that it must eventually still move through what is causing the feelings of fear and separation from God that it is imagining now. Why not give yourself time in this cycle so that your true self can move through these feelings of fear and separation from God. Remember the feelings of fear and separation are only illusions–God is with you always. In fact you are One with God–you are God creating God. The same energy that is God runs through you and all things and people. You are God choosing–by the thoughts you think and what you choose to focus on–what you/God will experience next.
If you don’t like what you are experiencing and noone likes to experience depression, you must choose another different, higher thought. To learn how to do this, I highly recommend Jerry and Esther Hick’s book “Ask and It is Given.” It has a list of emotions that will help you determine what exactly your next higher thought might be so that you can gradually move up to a better feeling place. I also highly recommend the Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle which shows you how to relieve the mind from depressing thoughts that feel painful and enter the Now where the Peace of God resides.
I can relate to your feelings of depression. I have been there as well. What freed me was a switch in perspective and the use of the two most powerful words in the universe “I AM.” You might recall from CwG that perspective creates your perception, perception creates your belief, belief creates your experience, experience creates your perspective and on and on the cycle goes repeating itself. Thus depressing thoughts create more depressing thoughts and happy thoughts create more happy thoughts. Whatever state of mind we are being creates more of the same feeling. Ultimately you can choose whatever feeling you wish to experience right here, right now. It took me a while of saying “I Am so depressed” before I realized that I was creating more depression with that thought. When I suddenly said “I no longer choose to feel that. There is nothing actually wrong with this moment right now. I Am now going to choose to feel better, even to feel some happy moment in this day, then I acted on it by giving whatever I wished to experience away to those I love. You are a parent. You want to experience a quick high moment–give away some happiness to your children. Take them to the park and slide down the slide. Go play in the leaves. Eat cookies and milk and watch Tom and Jerry. Have fun giving your love away because it will come right back at you one million fold.
Like Neale says you are so young. My gosh and you have already recognized the truths in CwG! That is amazing! Think of what your awareness of these truths can do to enlighten the rest of the world. This depressing moment in your life is just a moment. It is not real but you can learn from it and believe me, when you focus on giving your love to your loved ones and those around you, you will soon find yourself feeling alright again.
I can also relate to your feeling of being stuck and feeling as if there is more for you to do. But CwG says there is nothing you have to do. You are only meant to experience yourself being God, choosing as God, allowing as God the positive flow of Peaceful loving energy that is God to move through you as you in concert with God decide what to create next. I hope that you choose to create in Love and not Fear.
Please don’t deprive the world and your lovely wife and children of the Godly manifestation that is you. You already know so much. You already have so much to give.
Love and Peace,
Michelle



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I understand

posted November 12, 2008 at 2:27 pm


And when I say:
“Throw the world to the wind and let it take care of itself. Right now, it is time to take care of me ”
I mean, not taking on the worlds problems, but dealing with what I am capable of dealing with – Focusing on myself and my family (my husband) – By doing what I can at home and for me, I am helping to pick myself back up and helping him too, when he needs it the most…
To me, for right now, this is all that matters, and all I am capable of. And that is relief in itself…
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Sara E.

posted November 12, 2008 at 3:07 pm


Our dear friend who posted so candidly,
From the perspective of physical human experience alone, it’s easy to see how any of us would feel drawn to end our physical journey as we currently know it. All of us have at one point contemplated, “Is this it? Is this ALL there is?? Do I really want to keep going?” (This is how we know that happiness is not the result of physical conditions and circumstances going well for us.)
What I want to offer to you is that, the only choice is to keep going. There is no such thing as “ending it.” You can never be “dead.” You can’t even be gone. You might not interpret through your physical senses anymore, but you would be just as here and just as alive as the rest of us here in the physical. Each of us is always here now, and each of us is always alive. Taking your physical, human experience away from yourself and those around you will not end the painful cycle you are wanting to break. It will only perpetuate and grow larger until you decide enough is enough.
Any and every time we experience a negative emotion, what’s really happening is that we are not in agreement with ourselves about Who We Really Are. The part of you that is Nonphysical, God, Soul, Source, LOVE, always knows you and holds you to be the Powerful Loving Creator that you are. The real root of why suicidal depression and all negative emotion feels so bad is, because WE KNOW that, that cannot and COULD NEVER be the truth of WHO WE REALLY ARE.
When we are honest with ourselves about ourselves, we are in alignment. We feel content, present, joyful, etc. If this suicidal emotion was the truth of who YOU know yourself to be, you would be swooning in the joy of it, you would be blissing out, and basking in the alignment of it.
That’s not your experience of this space is it? It feels awful because it’s not who you are. It’s not even close.
AND what a gift. What a wonderful gift negative emotion is for that very reason. If we had no emotional indicator to let us know when we’re disagreeing with Who We Are, then we’d never know the joy of alignment and agreement that is always available to us. Without the darkness of false limiting beliefs, there could be no light of ever-expanding, ever-available, always-possible JOY.
Your emotions and your life are your best friends. Your emotions and the physical circumstances you attract, are ALWAYS telling you the absolute truth about your alignment with YOU. Your life is always mirroring the energey that dances within you. And your emotions tell you when that dance feels good, and when it feels exhausting and hopeless.
There is such Love here, FOR You, IN You, AS You. You are so worthy of all that you are desiring to give. You are so worthy of the relationships that you so beautifully shared with us. The answer to what you are desiring to experience is ALWAYS YES. Your worthiness of what you desire to experience is ALWAYS HERE. Your journey here in the physical, matters.
Your only job is to agree. Your only “job” is to agree with yourself about Who You Are.
You are so Loved,
Sara E.



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susan

posted November 12, 2008 at 3:25 pm


dear “I understand” you are so right. Love yourself, have hope. It isn’t always easy but its always worth it to keep going. I’m happy that you are choosing to believe in better for yourself!
No Name, all is not lost. I believe that deep down you don’t really want to end your life, you just want to feel better. And the truth is… you will! I agree with Sheerluck that we can all recall times when we have felt overwhelmed and wanted to end it. But you stick in there and things get better. Imagine yourself down the road, and you are enjoying a good life with your family, living the dreams you have for yourself, making an impact on people’s lives…. this is very likely a reality for you… if you hang in there. Try to remember this when you feel that overwhelmed feeling (that we all feel at times) remember: This shall pass, better days are ahead. And begin to focus on the things you have to be grateful for, your kids, your wife, yourself, many things. If you think that there are not lives in this world, including your family who are greatly impacted by you, you are mistaken. Perhaps your gauge of success is set too high. Your goal can still drive you forward, but don’t let it distract from the beauty of your journey. Nobody gets from one place to another overnight. And when we forget to stop and smell the roses, we get discouraged and jaded. Where you are right now is an important part of your journey. Learn all you can from it and move on when you’re ready. But don’t end the journey entirely because you will miss out on so much beauty. I also have wondered what my purpose in this life is. I’ve felt that surely there was more to my life than raising my beautiful children and being a volunteer. I also am seeking what to do with my life now that that part of it is ending… and at times I feel very inadequate and overwhelmed at the prospects. But you and I are strong and capable enough to continue forward. And when we’ve made it through this time, we will look back and remember how it felt to overcome that tough time. We will have grown wiser and more prepared for the ‘something’ we’re seeking. This moment is always the beginning of a whole new life… whatever moment you are in NOW is the opportunity to choose something, anything different from where you are. Anything is possible… that’s incredibly inspiring! All the best to you and to all. Love and blessings.



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John

posted November 12, 2008 at 4:25 pm


Hey No Name,
I was suicidal for two years. Twelve months ago, I read and re-read Happier than God. The suicidal feelings have gone, life is awesome.
You’re self esteem is probably reactive to others. Meaning you worry what other think about you. Learn to self generate self esteem. Or
You feel lonely. Develop your personality so you become more socially intelligent. Or
Help other people that are suicidal…
The three above helped me. The icing on the cake was reading Happier than God.
Good luck with it man.



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StormyMusic

posted November 12, 2008 at 4:45 pm


Dear friend;
Please know that you are not alone in your struggles or feelings, and the last thing I would ever do is condemn you or anybody for feeling as you do. I don’t know your exact situation and the exact details of your story, but I do know from my own experience and story how easy it is to feel lost, overwhelmed, helpless and powerless. I have experienced times in my life when it seemed I couldn’t stand the pain, and I felt there was no way out of darkness.
Early this year, I felt stuck. Advice from others meant little to me at that time, as I couldn’t see past the pain or realize that there was a way out of the abyss. It is easy to feel like one is swallowed by it or drowning in it. It got to a point where I became obsessed with my own emotional pain, and one day I just snapped. Feeling there was no way out and enraged, I hurt myself. When I realized what had happened and what I did, I immediately called 911. I was taken to a hospital. Fortunately, what I did was not serious.
My parents rushed to be by my side at the hospital, and they cried. I could feel their fear and sense how terrified they were for me. Whatever pain I thought I felt was nothing compared to the pain they felt with the realization that I was in that state of mind. Whatever fear I felt was nothing compared to the fear I felt from them as they rushed to be with me. Realizing this still brings tears to my eyes.
Soon after being released, I went into an intensive group and started getting help. I was started on a small dose of medication which I still take. It was in that group that I was taught to look at my own behavior and thought patterns. It was there where I learned to analyze my thoughts and found these dark thoughts were untrue. It was in that group that I started to see myself with greater clarity. I started to realize that other people and the world were not as I thought it to be previously. Within about three months, I graduated from the group and continued my journey of self-discovery and clarity.
The medication does not cover my thoughts up and bury them so I don’t have to see them or face them. Instead, it slows me down enough to stop and realize where I am headed. Over time, I realized such thoughts didn’t serve me. The desire to even head down that path of pain became less and less desirable. I began to accept more and more who I am and love who I am right now. It was not work, nor was it a struggle. It just seemed to happen naturally where as time progressed the old patterns started to fade away.
It might seem impossible from where you sit, but it’s not. Please don’t be afraid of your thoughts and don’t be afraid to seek help. Also know that you are loved beyond what any words can convey, and your presence in this planet DOES make a difference. Please take care of yourself.



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Kristen

posted November 12, 2008 at 5:29 pm


You’re loved, you know.



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Darren J. Prior

posted November 12, 2008 at 5:52 pm


I also find Gary Zukav’s blog very good.



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Albert the Abstainer

posted November 12, 2008 at 6:09 pm


Almost without exception, suicide is a bad choice.
Consider Christopher Reeve: If ever there was a man who had it all, and then fell from a high horse, it was him. He went into a desperate depression, (as would any of us), upon becoming a quadripeligic in the height of life. Instead, he discovered a combination of immense courage and compassion. He really only became a “Superman” after his accident, and then he really became one.
Be patient, look for meaning and beauty, they exist even in the darkest of moments. You may find that your purpose was deeply hidden by the noise floor, and that it may like a seed that is buried in the ground only become visible in a particular season.
None of us is able to see very far down the road, and so to make a judgment about what you will or won’t contribute at this point is impossible to say. Sometimes we don’t even know when an act on our parts has had immense consequences. It may remain hidden, but that does not change that we have affect, and may have great affect by our decisions.
Namaste,
Uncle Albert (the Abstainer).



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AM

posted November 12, 2008 at 6:36 pm


Keep on dearest No Name!
Seek for professional medical help and yes please read Neale and Katie’s books. They will help you!
Like they help many people around the world to celebrate the gift of Life.
Heartfelt very best wishes to you and your family
with Love from Hong Kong, AM



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Richard

posted November 12, 2008 at 6:43 pm


I’ve been a loyal CWG reader for many years but I have to say I’m appalled that this cry for help would be met with a response to buy a book for answers. I realize the actual words “buy my book” were not said but how else would most people (apparently me included) interpret the posted response. If I passed a gunshot victim on the street and I happen to be selling bullet removal kits, I’m not going to sell them a kit. I’m going to rip one open and do my level best to take out the damn bullet. Please tell me you’re better than this, Neale. I hope you can forgive my outburst. Your books taught me not to suppress my feelings as I was always so prone to doing before CWG found me.
A NOTE FROM NEALE: Richard…perhaps if you had written book that you thought might save a person’s life, you might recommend that they find a copy and read it. I will never shrink from recommending one of the CWG books if I think they can help. If you think, on the other hand, that after selling 7.5 million books, I am merely trying to sell one more, you are simply and obviously mistaken. Hugs to you….ndw



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John Robbins

posted November 12, 2008 at 7:04 pm


You are in my prayers dear No Name.
Love,
John



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Deb Reilly

posted November 12, 2008 at 7:09 pm


Dear loved friend,
If you haven’t already told your amazing wife, tell her now. Hold on to her, or just let her hold on to you. You’ve gotten some good advice here. There isn’t one of us who hasn’t felt as if we were in the pit at some point. Life ALWAYS gets better eventually.
Your beautiful family needs you. Not perfect, successful, handsomer than a movie star, money bags famous you. Just YOU.
Ask God for help. God is always listening. Hold on and believe things will get better.
Call a hot-line and tell them you’re in crisis. You need help NOW. Please do not wait.
I love you, we all love you. oxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo



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Teja

posted November 12, 2008 at 8:03 pm


Dear friend, dear “no name”!
You are already experiencing everything what you believe in. Everything what you see as Truth. It can’t be otherwise. Just see, and don’t see thoughts, that are telling you, that you are not.
Look for everything what does prove, you are experiencing it…go fishing!!! Just allow yourself to see it! To see yourself in everything that surrounds you. Be patient and don’t stop!!! Include gratitude, as Neale said!
You already see yourself for instant in your children, your wife, Neale,…your love has spread onto them. You are one with them and they are one with you (or they will be). Be one with everyone!
Lees conditions you will give to yourself, more likely is, that you will see it! And that will be experiencing yourself as unconditional love.
There are a lots of very good advices here, and as someone wrote:
Even in darkest places there is treasure, there is you, God, there is you, my dear Friend! You are a shining star that shone into my life instantly and right at the right time.
You gave us treasure when you wrote this to us. You asked us how much gratitude is in our lives, where do we really see our treasure in our lives. What is so suicidal in us. What is that, what we can’t stand anymore in our lives. Which part of ego has to go. And I will tell you everything of that, what I’ve learned just through your message.
I’ve experienced lot of such things as my schoolmate made suicide, then my grandpa who I love(d) the most… And they all have different reasons for that. Schoolmate because he had no hope anymore, grandpa because he saw some bright white, monk-like beings and believed he used to be there. Everyone of my family used to believe it was because of some disease, but he told me in my dreams, they were responsible, and the most, of course, himself. On the last day of his life he was totally different, not connected with me, I could say cold, and totally peaceful. I remember I just draw mother Mary that day and even asked him if we could give this picture to his old friend, who is priest…but it has shown he already decided.
In my life I see, it is not much about what surrounds you, better what spiritual quality you brought with you to give to others – YOU. You could never for instant forgive in some planet, when everything and everyone are perfect. But here you can have patience, hope, dreams, here you can be strong, forgiving, etc. Isn’t that great?
You already were in perfect land, you already are perfect land…now you can bring perfection here to this place, here to this earth! You already have. And that is what keeps you going, on and on. That’s what you will always want to do, you are here because of that.
You are eternal!
Love,
Your sister Teja



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karma0

posted November 12, 2008 at 8:19 pm


Dear Friend,
your are part of the human connection that keep the link strong. You are loved remember that always..



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AM

posted November 12, 2008 at 8:45 pm


Yes, truly dearest No Name you are loved beyond words!
as Teja’s puts it here above …
“Even in darkest places there is treasure, there is you, God, there is you, my dear Friend! You are a shining star that shone into my life instantly and right at the right time.”
Feel the Love! Books can come later to put words on It.
Give yourself time.
Accept the LOVE You Are now!
Why not, may be try chanting … http://maiie.multiply.com/reviews/item/420
XoXo’s, AM



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AM

posted November 12, 2008 at 9:37 pm


Love from Findhorn
Daily Guidance
from Eileen Caddy’s book Opening Doors Within
Thursday 13th November 2008
As you expect the very best in life, you draw it to you; so start right now expecting the very best in everything and everyone, and watch the very best come about. Expect your every need to be met. Expect the answer to every problem. Expect abundance on every level. Expect to grow spiritually. Accept no limitations in your life; simply know and accept that all My good and perfect gifts are yours as you learn to get your values right and put first things first in your life. Expect to grow in stature and beauty, in wisdom and understanding. Expect to be used as a channel for My divine love and light to flow in and through. Accept that I can use you for My work. Do it all in absolute faith and confidence, and behold My wonders and glories come about, not just once in a while but all the time, so that your whole life is indeed a song of joy and thanksgiving.
Source: http://www.findhorn.org/onlinecommunity/dailyguidance/?tz=-480



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DGF

posted November 12, 2008 at 10:05 pm


Neal, this is not related to this post, but it is something that is relevant to the recent election activity I thought you might find interesting:
In a postelection statement, Cardinal Roger M. Mahony of Los Angeles spoke about one of the biggest misunderstandings — that the church’s opposition to same-sex marriage indicates a rejection of homosexuals and lesbians as people. “The Catholic Church understands that there are people who choose to live together in relationships other than traditional marriage,” he added. “All of their spiritual, pastoral and civil rights should be respected, together with their membership in the church.”
A cardinal in the Catholic Church stating that gay and lesbian catholics deserve to have their rights and membership in the Catholic Church respected.
Did I just feel the earth move just a bit?



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Elinore

posted November 13, 2008 at 1:54 am


Dear No Name,
stick with the Conversations – know that there is nothing you have to do to be a success – just BE what you feel you should be in the moment. Be a loving Dad – smile for your children and cuddle them.
Be a loving husband – smile for your wife, ask her to hold you, say thank-you. Just do what you are doing right now and do it the best way you can. Don’t think about the big picture, deal with whatever is in front of you now – and give it your full attention.
love and life,
Elinore



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Diana Ekman

posted November 13, 2008 at 2:16 am


Dear friend,
Tell your wife how you feel, and ask her to find help for you today. Until that help reaches you, hold on. Promise yourself you will make no final decision until you’ve given yourself a chance to feel better. The soul-crushing depression you are feeling will pass, with the right meds, right therapy, and right support. When it does, you’ll be able to build your soul back up. Just ask for help from your loved ones and hold on.



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NoName

posted November 13, 2008 at 5:51 am


Hello Neale and everyone.
I came back to Neales blog today just to read it as usual, not particularly expecting to see what I see on my screen in front of me.
I am totally bowled over by the amount of support and words of love that you have all given me. Thank you all for this. I felt a slight panic that I should write something down to let you know that im still here, and that I havent done anything stupid. It’s the least I can do to show my gratitude.
By coincidence Neale, I expect my copy of Happier Than God to come through my door anyday, as I ordered it a week or so ago. I look forward to reading it even more than before. All the precious books of yours have an uncanny way of finding me at the right time. Inner Peace is exactly what I seek right now.
Today I can see the sun, it was there yesterday, but thanks to you all, I can actually see it today.
Love and peace to you all.
NoName



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I understand

posted November 13, 2008 at 8:07 am


Yaeee!
(((((Hug)))))
Good Job…
You had us worried alright!
sigh of relief… ;)
love



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Deb Reilly

posted November 13, 2008 at 11:19 am


YES! So glad you see the sun today. Reading spiritual material is great, but please don’t rely on it alone. There may be something going on physically. Please get yourself checked out. Remember that your value as a person has nothing to do with how you earn a living.
You did something for us. You reminded all of us that we are all connected.
Love.



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Loral O

posted November 13, 2008 at 1:31 pm


No Name, I’m glad you are feeling the sunshine today. I no longer have those dark, dark days but I can remember being around your age when I did. What helped me through those days or hours of terrible sadness is remembering this adage: “This too shall pass”. It always does.
Human beings need purpose in this life. We need to be about the LOVE that is our own basic nature.
Perhaps you can find a cause where you can place that excess love. The aged, sick or orphaned children, homeless, handicapped, the lonely or those far from home and family – perhaps in the military…….send letters, visit hospitals and nursing homes, take yourself where you can distribute that love – and without even expecting anything, the love comes tumbling back to you.
Love your life. It is not forever – at least in this physical body. HugS “THIS TOO SHALL PASS”



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Teja

posted November 13, 2008 at 6:27 pm


Hi Noname!!! You are still with us!!! Great!!!!!! Lots of love to you!!!
And as Deb said: yes, we are all connected!!!
Love and peace,
Teja



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Cameron

posted November 13, 2008 at 6:31 pm


Hello NoName,
I want to let you know that your post has meant the world to me today. It has given me hope that didn’t seem possible. I was recently hospitalized for having suicidal thoughts and have been struggling with a debilitating depression since. The reason you have given me hope is by seeing the Love that you have drawn to yourself. To see it in action has shown me the beauty of life and love. Also, many of the comments posted have helped me directly as though I had left the post myself. I want to thank you for sharing yourself with everyone and offering me hope. I’ve even been inspired to create a network, a forrum, a social network for individuals who are looking for their deeper inner truths. A place where we can get support and draw love like you have. I have felt the importance of it. How can you now deny that you matter in the world? You have inspired me to make a difference. You’ve helped me gain new perspective. Thank you so much. I hope you feel better and make it through this. I wish you the best of luck.
Your Friend,
Cameron
P.S. If you feel like talking with someone who might be walking a similar path, I would be open and excited.



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Deb Reilly

posted November 13, 2008 at 8:32 pm


Cameron, you ARE so loved! ;0)



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Cameron

posted November 13, 2008 at 8:55 pm


Now you have made my day Deb! :-) This is fantastic. I see the sun and it is great. Is there any place out there that is like Facebook or Myspace for the spiritually inclined? I feel refreshed everytime I discover a new spiritual outpouring of love. What a great resource it would be to have a social networking website where we can support those in need like our friend who inspired this outpouring of love and also where we can all discuss those things most dear to us, where spiritually inclined beings (I guess I shouldn’t limit the scope) can be enriched by other spiritually inclined beings. Does such a place exist in any form?
I am so thankful for this posting. What a difference it has made in my life. Amazing.



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Susan

posted November 14, 2008 at 12:30 am


You’re going to love “Happier than God” I know I did.
PS. Neale, I am having difficulty posting now that they have the new text box. I sometimes have to post 3 times before it accepts it. I hope its temporary!



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Zane

posted November 14, 2008 at 4:08 am


Dear Friend
I know this blog is a few days old, but I hope that you read this comment. Over the last decade I have read many wonderful books. I have devoured all the CWG material and most of it resonated profoundly and deeply with an inner knowing that was already present. However, I have learned that there is a gap between embracing a belief conceptually and experiencing the effects of that belief in your everyday life. This gap, I have found, is seldom discussed and can be frustrating. But I assure you that your psyche is working hard to absorb what it has learned and in the very near future you will observe that your life has aligned itself with your “new” beliefs. For some I imagine the transformation is instant (they are blessed indeed), but for others some time must pass. You are doing the hard work of changing your beliefs, but you have to also give your psyche the breathing space it needs to assimilate these beliefs.
To relieve some of the angst during this gap I can offer three small pieces of practical advice. Please forgive me if this advice sounds too simplistic, but it really does make a huge difference:
1. Don’t underestimate the importance of sleep. At least 8 hours a night is essential. This may be difficult to achieve when you have a family to take care of, but try. Re-arrange your daily schedule as best you can. I guarantee you you’ll feel the difference after the first night.
2. Try to create quiet time for yourself at least a few times a week. Again, this is difficult to do in the midst of a busy family life. However, sitting undisturbed in silence as often as you can is a powerful practice.
3. I find reading the Tao Te Ching to be very soothing. It’s like a warm blanket on a cold Winter night. I good study of the Tao is the book “Change your thoughts, change your life” by Dr Wayne Dyer.
I hope this small offering helps.



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Michelle

posted November 14, 2008 at 12:50 pm


Cameron,
I second Deb Reilly–You ARE so loved!!!!
Love and Peace,
Michelle



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Cameron

posted November 14, 2008 at 8:43 pm


I love you too Michelle. My eyes feel like they’re sparkling. My days are only getting better…! What a wonderful community this is! :-D



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jennifer coffman

posted November 16, 2008 at 5:26 pm


Dear friend,I know things seem dark and numb and full of pain.I have a daughter who is only 19 years old and has wanted to end things.She takes meds and goes to therepy but each day is a struggle.She is also acutter.Which means she hurts herself,alot.I don’t know what to say but hang in there and find someone to talk to asap.You are loved,Jennifer



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emily

posted November 18, 2008 at 11:45 pm


Many times I feel the same way.
I don;t feel any purpose to life. I have no passion.
People are always hurting me. What’s the point?
It is almost excruciating to wake up in the am.
what is the answer?



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Your Name

posted November 19, 2008 at 11:48 am


Dear Friend.____I love you. And, in the course of the last year, I have been exactly where you are. I hung in there and now I am gratefully in a different place. No, things are not magically wonderful all of a sudden, but, for me, accepting where I am in my process has been key. I have a deep sense again that all is well-something I could never have imagined feeling several months ago. It can be very painful to know we have our own unique purpose to love and serve the world and to not yet know quite what that looks like. It can feel like a lot of pressure-like, “I need to hurry up and figure this out” or “What’s wrong with me that I can’t move forward with whatever this is?”. Accepting myself, loving myself and being patient with myself is helping me to really get, “I am where I need to be and I’ll get where I need to go.”____You are so loved:-)…Amy____



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Your Name

posted November 21, 2008 at 4:31 pm


Having just had all that I wrote rubbed off by this has certainly not helped – webmaster, please be aware!
it was asking Neale and the community for some thoughts.
I’ve been unemployed for 2 years, single for far far longer and my money situation is such that I can’t afford food (so please don’t recommend buying anything). I’m not able to go out as I’m somewhere so remote that I can’t even get a phone signal and this means I don’t; see anyone much each day. yet I have been open to spiritual wisdom and remained motivated and positive but get frustrated by the laws of attraction. I try to turn every negative (eg my 5000 job rejections) into an opportunity, and believe very good things about myself.
all this thought monitoring causes less peace, not more. I looked at Byron Katie too and found that her helpful steps aren’t relevant to my circs.
Look forward to hearing your thoughts



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Jamie

posted August 26, 2012 at 7:33 pm


I’ve done this before. (at *least* once) I had a small glimpse into a “past life” memory in which I was a young girl. Wish I remembered more about it, all I know is that I could ice skate, I was pretty, but didn’t think so at the time. (most of the vision was about this life and how it carried over)

First off, advice won’t help you. It doesn’t matter. You need to express your sadness, this life literally depends on expressing yourself.

Emotional pain gets projected into the body. Rather like a child playing with a rag doll, once you trick yourself into believing the pain is in the body, it becomes “logical” to destroy that body. It really is like a kid being hurt and taking their feelings out on the doll… once destroyed, you’re stuck without a “doll” to express that pain. (the pain was never in the doll to begin with)

Yes, it sucks. I mean, it really sucks. Every step is nothing but sadness. It feels like someone “turned up gravity” and even in this life, I’ve felt my knees start to buckle from the sheer weight of the world (yes, it literally, as in, physically feels like gravity is increased). I’ve wished I could cry, but can’t. I’ve been scared I’d just spontaneously start crying (or fall down) in public places because of the intense sadness.

I pray and sometimes beg to leave this misreable world and be done with it…. God doesn’t seem to care. God just says “ok, you’re sad.. have fun with that” and it hurts like hell.

To all the people who mention the people left behind: there is one thing not mentioned. The guilt for screwing up the lives of parents when I had to come back. My birth destroyed their lives, and yes, I feel pretty bad about that.

If the idea of inconveniencing two more parents on your return bothers you, it may serve as a temporary delaying tactic that can help you “hang on” while waiting for someone to listen.

Good luck my friend. Even if God doesn’t seem to care, at least you have the knowledge that other people are going through, have gone through, what you’re going through. (albeit in different ways)

Please find someone who will listen to you. You need a good cry. You need to express this pain, in emotional terms. (and it’s not easy, I know.. you probably don’t feel like burdening other people)

[By the way, it may be best NOT to tell someone going through this about how much "God loves them". Such statements are a slap in the face when reality is showing a completely different story.]



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