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Pastor Joel Osteen warns about pork

posted by Aziz Poonawalla

Pastor Joel Osteen gives an amazing sermon about pork and shellfish. He made changes to his own diet, not just for health reasons, but also to honor God:

It’s a compelling and educational lecture about why pigs and shellfish are truly unclean. I find it a remarkable lecture and an inspiring one.



  • Robert

    Please understand I respect your religious beliefs, but what is really amazing about Joel Osteen’s preaching on this topic is that he disregarding New Testament teaching on the matter, “Do not call unclean anything God has called clean,” the story being the Apostle Peter was told by God that both pork and non-Jews could be clean before God. God does know what is best for us, but Joel Osteen only knows about hair care products.

  • http://www.gregsopinion.com Greg Wythe

    Aziz,
    Always good to see you staying true to your Texas roots ;-)
    – G

  • Josh

    Robert,
    You’re right. God cares more about our salvation than he does about what we’re eating for lunch.
    1 Timothy 4:1-5 states, “Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils; speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving to them which believe and know the truth. For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving; for it is sanctified by the Word of God and prayer.”
    I do agree that pork products are not very healthy, but we can eat pork if we want.

  • Stacey

    As Joel points out, there was good reason for the dietary Laws and there still is! Because we are now under Grace, we don’t have to worry about being ceremonially unclean because we choose to eat unclean animals, BUT they DO pollute our bodies and the New Testament requires that we care for our body as the Temple of the Holy Spirit.

  • http://generalnotions.talkislam.info Ergo Ratio

    Clean or unclean, I find the intelligence of pigs to be a more convincing argument against their consumption. Thankfully I don’t like pork in any case so it’s a non-issue for me. :)

  • Roger

    True that the new testament states we can eat anything we want as long as we offer thanksgiving and prayer. By acts alone we do not ensure our entry into God’s kingdom. It is by faith through the grace of God that we have a place. Although if you really want to argue clean versus unclean, no commercially sold product is without some added chemical introduced into the meat or vegetable we eat. We need to focus more on our evangelical purpose here on earth rather that what we eat or what we wear or whatever other ritual we feel may earn us a place in God’s kingdom.

  • Michael

    Do you suppose Joel has the ability to cancel out what Christ said?
    Matthew 15:11 NIV
    What goes into a man’s mouth does not make him ‘unclean,’ but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him ‘unclean.’ ”
    I agree there are unhealthy traits of the meats he speaks of, but again as Paul says:
    Romans 14: 6-10 NIV
    6.He who regards one day as special, does so to the Lord. He who eats meat, eats to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who abstains, does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God.
    7.For none of us lives to himself alone and none of us dies to himself alone. 8.If we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord.
    9.For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living. 10.You, then, why do you judge your brother? Or why do you look down on your brother? For we will all stand before God’s judgment seat.
    I think we must do as the Bereans did and compare everything to scripture.
    In His name.
    Michael

  • Chris

    This man is one of the main reasons non-believers look down on not only Christianity but Christ Himself. I am sorry but a man who would preach fluffy sermons and not to eat certain foods without preaching about the cross of Christ is no preachers but a coward who loves the spotlight. He would love to preach what people want to hear. “For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths” (2 Timothy 4:3-4, ESV). It seems he is becoming a little more legalistic every time his “so-called” popularity grows.

  • William

    I find it intresting that at the end of this he stated that in his house he eats a lot of chicken. Chicken is one of the nastiest meats you can eat. A chicken eats his own Fecal waste, but yet he does not eat the shellfish because it eats waste from other sea animals. Pork that is sold in stores does not run around in the wild eating all of the things that he is talking about. They are fed grain and other nutriants to fatten them up. As far as that goes, most of the beef that you purchase in the store is given some type of steroids to make them grow faster and bigger unless you get range fed beef from a specialty store.
    God told Peter not to call unclean that which he had made clean when he lowered the net of animals that were considered unclean by the Jews. I know that he was trying to make a point about the gentiles in this scripture, but it still applies to what was in the net.
    I BELIEVE THAT WHAT YOU EAT IS NOT FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO TELL YOU IT IS WRONG, BUT ALLOW GOD TO LEAD YOU IN EATING THE THINGS THAT ARE GOOD FOR YOU AND NOT LISTEN TO OTHER PEOPLES CONVICTIONS.

  • Saul

    Dear Michael
    You must follow your own advise and compare everything to scripture. You must truly pray that you don’t read what Christ said out of context. Your texts have nothing to do with eating food. Specially Matthew’s text. Continue reading in Matthew and Jesus will tell his disciples what he really meant when he told the Pharasees what he told them.
    God Bless

  • Frank

    What about the gospel. Does this man preach about the gospel at all. He has this big megachurch and he didn’t even go to seminary. This man is a false convert making more false converts. Preach the gospel and nothing else..

  • Tom

    It won’t be long before he is forbidding marriage as well:
    1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will DEPART FROM THE FAITH by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons,
    1Ti 4:2 through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared,
    1Ti 4:3 who FORBID MARRIAGE and REQUIRE ABSTINENCE FROM FOODS that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.
    1Ti 4:4 For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving,
    1Ti 4:5 for it is made holy by the word of God and prayer.
    Rom 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking but of righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit.
    Be Bereans brothers and sisters!
    Soli Deo Gloria

  • Tonie

    This it the reason we have the Word of God to immerse ourselves in, read and pray for wisdom. The days are becoming short as He promised us, for the “elects sake” that we will not be lost due to such preaching. Read the Word and lean on God to give you the understanding, not man.

  • Saul

    Dear William
    You are absolutely right about letting God lead us to eat that which is good for us. And if we truly listen to God’s word, the Bible, we will find that abstaining from certain kinds of foods will give us a healthier way of life. Peter’s vision from God does NOT apply to food. Don’t try to change the context of the verse.

  • http://www.bibleword.org/food.shtml Michael

    Saul,
    “Here are some added witnesses. All discuss the ordinances of clean and unclean foods given in the Law of Moses. All say those ordinances have no effect of Christians:
    Romans 14:3 “Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.”
    1 Corinthians 8:8 “But meat commendeth us not to God: for neither, if we eat, are we the better; neither, if we eat not, are we the worse.”
    Colossians 2:16 “Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:”
    Hebrews 13:9 “Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines. For it is a good thing that the heart be established with grace; not with meats, which have not profited them that have been occupied therein.”
    This verse sums it up nicely:
    Colossians 2:20-23 “Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances, {21} (Touch not; taste not; handle not; {22} Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men? {23} Which things have indeed a show of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body; not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh.””

  • rob

    what about peter’s dream and i thought God had a new covenant with the ressurection of Jesus Christ

  • Tara

    So what if the pig is fed differently? Fed only vegetation like cows and deer? Would it still be considered unclean?

  • Chris

    Tom,
    You bring up a good point with the Word to back it up.

  • CLAIRE

    I WISH I HAD KNOWN THIS BEFORE.THEN I WOULDN’T NAVE BEEN EATING PORK OE SEAFOOD.

  • Tiffany

    Eating pork and shellfish will not affect our salvation, which is why it is alright to eat. It’s for health purposes that they should be avoided. Though, I am sure that with all the other junk we eat anyways, it prolly doesn’t make too much of a difference.

  • Rick

    I guess Joel has never been to a modern day pig raising facility otherwise he would have known that pig’s today are feed the best corn meal around. It is very safe, they are very clean by most standards. Maybe Joel should go to Iowa someday and take a walk around before making statements to thousands of people that today that are not true.

  • rick

    What does Acts 11: 1>9 mean? \\Eat whatever you wish.// \\Dont say it isnt right when GOD declares it is//?

  • Denise

    I completely agree with the pastor, father YHWH has put it on my heart to try to be obedient to all that he has comanded us. I stopped eating unclean animals over a year ago and alot of people actually judged me who claimed to be believers but I realized that even I struggle with the wickedness of my flesh so I forgive those who judge me. Check out Matthew chpt 5 v 17-19, its apparent to me that heaven and earth has not passed away yet, and I also encourage all to pray about it and ask God if this is his will and wait on Gods answer he will answer you!! YHWH bless and keep all you and the pastor for stepping out in faith

  • CJ

    I think Pastor Osteen needs to stick to winning souls and not stick his nose into what I eat. Smacks of legalism to me.

  • Saul

    HERE ARE COMMONLY MISUSED SCRIPTURES FOR JUSTIFICATION OF EATING UNCLEAN ANIMALS
    Acts 10:10-16
    These verses are about the vision God gave Peter. If you read the chapter of Acts 10 in its entirety, the vision is explained by Peter himself; “…but God has SHOWN me that I should not call any MAN common or unclean” (v.28). Originally, Jews did not associate with Gentiles because they were perceived as unclean and common. In the vision, the meat was used to symbolize Gentiles, not literal meat. In verse 14, Peter states “Not so, Lord! For I have never eaten anything common or unclean.” Peter’s answer was based on the Levitical law in the Old Testament. God showed Peter that He was not talking about meat, but about the Jews’ prejudice towards the Gentiles.
    1 Timothy 4:4,5
    These verses tell Christains how to be thankful for the food God has supplied. Paul states three points for the blessings of food.
    (1) “…if it be received with thanksgiving” (v.4)
    We should be thankful to God for all the things He provides. We show our thanks when we acknowledge God for all the food He has given us to eat. (See I Corinthians 10:31)
    (2) “For it is sanctified by the word of God…” (v.5)
    What makes food clean? 1 Timothy 4:5 tells us that for a food to be edible, it must have God’s approval. We find God’s approval for all things in His holy Bible. This point is often overlooked by Christians.
    (3) “…and prayer” (v.5)
    We must pray to God that our food may supply not only our physical needs, but also our spiritual needs. Each day we should acknowledge that it is He who gives us our daily bread.
    Romans 14:3,14,20
    These verses are about a discussion of those who eat certain things versus those who do not. The passage does not say either is right, but rather counsels that neither pass judgment on the other. Instead, let God be the Judge (v.4, 10-12). Verses 14 and 20 refer to foods that were first offered to idols (and were thus ceremonially unclean)–not to the clean and unlean meats of Leviticus 11. (Rd. 1 Corinthians 8). The point of the discussions is that no food is “unclean” or “impure” just because it has first been offered to idols, because an idol is “nothing in the world.” 1 Cor. 8:4. But if a person’s conscience bothers him for eating such food, he should leave it alone. Or even if it merely offends a brother, he should likewise abstain.
    Romans 14:3,14,20
    These verses are about a discussion of those who eat certain things versus those who do not. The passage does not say either is right, but rather counsels that neither pass judgment on the other. Instead, let God be the Judge (v.4, 10-12). Verses 14 and 20 refer to foods that were first offered to idols (and were thus ceremonially unclean)–not to the clean and unlean meats of Leviticus 11. (Rd. 1 Corinthians 8). The point of the discussions is that no food is “unclean” or “impure” just because it has first been offered to idols, because an idol is “nothing in the world.” 1 Cor. 8:4. But if a person’s conscience bothers him for eating such food, he should leave it alone. Or even if it merely offends a brother, he should likewise abstain.

  • Tom

    A word about Scripture sanctifying food. Saul you said:
    (2) “For it is sanctified by the word of God…” (v.5)
    What makes food clean? 1 Timothy 4:5 tells us that for a food to be edible, it must have God’s approval. We find God’s approval for all things in His holy Bible. Christians.
    God has approved ALL foods, when He first gave man meat to eat he gave it ALL to him:
    Gen 9:1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.
    Gen 9:2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.
    Gen 9:3 EVERY moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you ALL things.
    THIS point is often overlooked by those who would “require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.” 1Ti 4:3
    Let’s be Bereans.

  • Maxine

    I think we need to use wisdom. No we don’t go to hell for eating pork and shellfish. Just like we don’t go to hell for smoking cigarettes.. (we’ll just smell like we’ve been there)
    The Word says that we are saved by believing in our hearts and confessing with our mouths that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and is Lord. Remember the thief on the Cross.
    However, there is a reason why God placed dietary guidelines in His Word. And heaven knows we need those guidelines! Have you seen the latest statistics???!!! Yikes! The U.S.A. has now graduated from being the fattest nation in the world to being the most “obese” nation of the world. Our children are the fattest nation in the world and doctors are now stating that if things don’t change now regarding the children, this generation of kids will be the first that will not outlive their parents. They will be an added burden o our already over burdened health care system just at the time the aging Baby Boomers hit the Medicare and Medicaid years. You think we have economic problems now??
    How did we get that way??? By ignoring simple guidelines that God gave us and also by allowing Big Food to market us and our kids fake food, cheap, artificially fattened meats, processed foods stripped of nutrients and loaded with salts and modified starches and sugars.
    And don’t think that taking care of the physical body is not important. Our bodies are the temples of God and they are gifts from Him and the only vehicles we have to carry out the purposes He placed on us. If we trash our bodies we will have to answer for it.
    He says “My people perish for lack of knowledge”. So get knowledge! Use wisdom!

  • jeff prock

    joel olsteen is a word of faith heritic. positive declarations of prosperity and health are not christian ideas. obsession with this world, the body and materialism are contrary to christian doctrine

  • Cheryl

    In Gen 1 God who is ALL GOOD, IS ALL IN ALL, IS OMNIPRESENT, made ALL, and he not only made all but he made it a significant point to say that IT WAS GOOD. If All came from GOD who is ALL GOOD, all clean and he created ALL, and he that is ALL GOOD FILLS ALL SPACE, because he is Spirit and Spirit fills ALL space then all has to be GOOD. God never mention in his creation that he made any power opposite to himself that had the authority to undo his GOOD, for GOOD can only think GOOD. We should remember also that God is love itself and it does not make sense that love will create a power opposite to love in order to contaminate or destroy that which he loves. So where is unclean or where is evil??? You do the math. It does not have a space to exist except in mortal imagination, we make it real, we make what we imagine real by believing in it. GOD IS ALL GOOD LET US STICK TO BELIEVING IN HIM ALONE.

  • Joe Ally

    This is retarded the air you breathe has toxins, Chicken has salmonella, Beef has mad cow disease. This guy seriously needs to check his facts. Besides Ive not heard of anyone who has become unhealthy from pork. Its completely ridiculous there is no basis for this argument at all apart from the old testiment. Which was over ruled by the new covernment anyway. Outrageous that he should preach people absolute lies.

  • Cassie Cole

    I agree that pork is unclean and kind of gross, but I am bothered by Joel Osteen’s reasoning. Not eating pork and shellfish to honor God because it says so in the Old Testament? Keeping kosher is a pretty healthy idea, but I generally disapprove when Christians pick and choose from the laws of Moses. After all, they also say that stoning women is acceptable, homosexuals are abominations, and one shouldn’t mix fabrics. Must Christians follow these laws to honor God, too?

  • Kelsie

    If I didn’t know any better, I would think Osteen had converted to a “sect” such as Seventh-Day Adventism. It is important to take care of the bodies God gave us, but what good is our body if our soul is not taken care of. I am still waiting for a clear gospel presentation from Osteen. Believe in Jesus Christ as the Son of God, the Saviour, the Sacrifice, repent and turn from sin and be saved.

  • Your Name

    Mark 7:1-23 (particularly 18-19)

  • Your Name

    Joel is apsolutly right.I support him totaly. What a great speaker!

  • Your Name

    When I ask some Christian regarding the pork issue this question “Did any of you guys ever read bible throughly ?” They replied “I do not know where I can find that in the Bible.”
    READ THIS .
    In the book of Leviticus, Chapter 11, v.7, it is recorded that God declares the pig to be unclean for believers. Then, in verse 8, God says: ‘ You must not eat their meat or touch their carcasses; they are unclean for you’. This command is repeated in Deuteronomy 14;7-8. Then, in Isaiah 65:2-4, and 66:17, God issues a stern warning against those who eat pork.
    Some people are aware of this prohibition from God, but they say that they can eat pork because St. Paul said that all food is clean in his letter to the Romans 14:20. St. Paul said this because he believed (as he wrote in his letter to the Ephesians 2:14-15) that Jesus had abolished the Law with all its commandments and regulations. He seems, however, to have misunderstood what he heard from Jesus. In the Gospel According to Matthew 5:17-20, Jesus is reported to have said quite the contrary, as follows: ‘ Do not think that I have come to abolish the law…’ Jesus then went on in that passage (in verse 19) to denounce anyone who would break the smallest commandment and teach others likewise. He also praised his true followers who will practice and teach even the smallest commandments. One of the commandments, as we have seen, is to stay away from pork.
    This is why the true followers of Jesus, holding on to his teachings, did not let unclean food such as pork enter their mouths, so that Peter, the chief disciple, can say:’ I have never eaten anything impure or unclean’ (Acts of the Apostles, ch.10, v.14).

  • J. Gustafson

    Seems to me Mr. Osteen needs to go back to theology class…
    _______________
    Mathew 15:10-20
    10And he called the people to him and said to them, “Hear and understand: 11 it is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person.”
    12Then the disciples came and said to him, “Do you know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this saying?” 13He answered, “Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be rooted up. 14Let them alone; they are blind guides. And if the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.”
    15But Peter said to him, “Explain the parable to us.” 16And he said, “Are you also still without understanding? 17Do you not see that whatever goes into the mouth passes into the stomach and is expelled? 18But what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this defiles a person. 19For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander. 20 These are what defile a person. But to eat with unwashed hands does not defile anyone.”
    ____________________
    Seems like Joel is placing himself with the blind leading the blind to me, and to be frank, I’m surprised and disappointed, I hope he recovers. There is freedom in Christ, those who live by the Law will die in the Law, those who are liberated by Christ will live forever with the Father in Heaven.

  • Your Name

    Well, I believe in what Jesus(the son) said when he remarked “what goes into the mouth,the stomach digests what it needs and what the body doesn’t need, then it comes out the other end–“But what comes out of your mouth is important”. I haven’t seen whar Pastor Osteen said about pork, but it is dirty. In these days the way pork is grown and slaughtered is not a horrible as some think–As for SAhellfish, I never ate it and don’t have to worryh about it. Well, actuallky there is no need to worry about none of this….

  • Your Name

    To the person who commited with Acts 10:14, you might want to read verse 15 and 16 as well.
    And the voice came to him again the second time, “What God has made clean, do not call unclean.” This happened three times and the thing was taken up at once to heaven.
    God revealed to Peter in a vision that no foods are unclean any more. Jesus spoke to the people and declare that nothing going into the mouth makes one unclean.
    Pastor Osteen has never studied theology and has admitted more than once that he is not a theologian.

  • Brian Macker

    What a scientifically illiterate idiot. I guess you guys will have to stop eating your veggies and yogurt too. Veggies live on filth and what do you think fertilizer is. Yogurt has a microscopically short digestive tract.
    Guess what, and improperly cleaned and cooked piece of chicken, or beef, is far worse for you than properly prepared pork.

  • Ameer abu ibn Ameer

    Others have already hit the nail on the head: pork is haram because it is haram. We must do what Allah demands of us, whether we like it or not and whether we think it “makes sense” or not. We do what we are told by our Rabb because he is the lord of the universe and I’m pretty sure we’re in no position to argue with him hehe!
    We’re just fortunate that Allah in his infinite mercy has given us rules that we also believe to be good for our health. Allah could have chosen any rules, any obligations, any prohibitions. Take the example of Prophet Ibrahim (as) who was commanded to kill his own son; he was going to do it because it was a fard from his malik, not because it was “healthy”.
    However, since we’re all speculating, it seems just as likely that pigs are Allah’s most favorite animal aside from humans, and hence he doesn’t want to see them eaten, much as I save the chocolate cake (favorite) for after I’ve finished my vegetables. That seems like as good an explanation for their “haramness” as anything else. The health benefits, or lack thereof are just a bonus that we’ve been blessed with.
    Even if we could genetically engineer a totally clean pig that was full of the best vitamins, minerals and tasted like chocolate cake, it would still be just as haram.

  • your friend

    I am so glad, that even some Christians finally start to follow the word. for some reason, it is mentioned so clearly in Leviticus 11 verse 3, that not to eat pork, but just make it easy for people, ministers and pastors don’t even touch those verses because they are afraid that they will lose people and won’t have enough people to listen to them, what a shame, for their own ease they deny the word of God. or may be they are just scared that it will bring them close Muslims and Jews who at least follow the word of God. come on Christians wake up and follow the word of God for the sake of God not for the easiness of your daily routine. I don’t think that God thought, oh OK, i was wrong in Leviticus 11, so now i am gonna give a different envision to peter.
    Come on ya’ll, it is stupid if you even think that way. no wonder Christianity is going down and down because ministers, pastors, different churches and different versions of the bible can not make their mind what they want in life. because they themselves are so confused about the true meanings of the word. which i don’t blame them because if the word has changed over the years in form of revisions to make it fit to the present time then what is the authenticity of the word is left.
    it is for you to decide.

  • Kyle

    I am a Christian. I just accidentally stumbled on this site and started reading this thread. First of all, my initial reaction to this site is positive and the few posts I have read are interesting. I have learned about unclean foods from both scripture and friends (other Christ followers, Muslims, and Jews). My wife and I are furthering our study on the matter, but I can assure you that if our final decision to stop eating pork or shell fish will be based on an exact interpretation of all related scripture on the subject. The argument for many Christians is that the crucification of Christ was for the forgiveness of all sins. Many Christians stop there. Others, including me, believe that once I accepted Christ, that I opened the door for a personal relationship with God. Now, the question for me is that whether avoiding “unclean” foods honors that relationship… still researching that one.

  • Chuck

    For the person quoting acts 10 to show the rules changed read acts 11 in it Peter explains that his vision was not about food but telling him to witness to gentiles who were clean. read all of acts 10 and you will see this. One verse can be used to prove just about anything. Read the whole chapter to see the truth. Chapter 10 starts whith a gentile sending servents to Peter asking him to witness to them. Which at that time was considered an abomination because Gentiles were unclean. I have people tell me all the time a Christian cannot sin or loose his salvation and quote various scriptures to back this up.

  • Norhaini

    Greetings to all….please allow me to share a tiny thought…one fact that must be remembered….Judaism…Christianity…n Islam r all from d same Source….GOD ALMIGHTY…d ONE n ONLY…whatver humans want to call him….HE IS d EVER SELF SUFFICIENT…EVER POWERFUL….human subservience to him does not add nor subtract His Power over all His creations…. HE provided humans with guidance right from the time of our first ancestors…Adam n Eve…till now….there is a slow EVOLUTION of this guidance from the Torah to d Injil/Bible …n finally d Quran…when He said ….(what means): “This day have I perfected your religion for you and completed My favor upon you and have chosen for you Islam as your religion.” [Quran 5:3]….what does Islam mean… Islam does not mean Arab, Malays, or any other nationalities….Islam means surrender or submission to d ONE N ONLY GOD….by following all that He prescribes for d good of all humankind….Another BIG QUESTION is who r you in this particular ayat (5:3)…the word ‘you’ does nor refer to d Arabs…nor to Malaysians …or Idonesians …or Chinese…o Americans o Europeans…. THE WORD REFERS TO HUMANS…all humans in general…….n whatever guidance He prescribes in all His Holy Messages/Book….is meant for all of us…..

  • Elaine

    A friend on facebook sent me this video. As a born-again Seventh-day Adventist Christian, I absolutely applaud Joel for speaking about this when he knows that possibly he will lose some congregants. But it’s the truth from the word of God. Praise the Lord Joel that you have told this truth to your congregation!!

  • Toxins?

    While the case can be made that shellfish are unhealthy because they have the potential of concentrating poisonous heavy metals (they are filter feeders). The same is not true for Pork. Pigs will eat (recycle) just about anything, but the claim that a short duration of digestion leads to a buildup of “toxins” in the body is fiction – one could even argue that the short duration of digestion in a pig allows fewer nutrients (and therefore “toxins”) to be absorbed by its digestive system. Furthermore, other domesticated animals reared for human consumption (cows, chickens, goats) are fed with the ground-up remains of other dead cows, chickens, and goats so in this respect they are on equal footing with pigs. Joel needs to go back to school or get an education so he can develop a more sensitive eye for pseudo-facts. I should also add that he throws around the word “toxin” without actually defining what he means or giving any examples further illuminating his ignorance.
    Any choice you make regarding what animal you will or will not eat should be a personal one based on sound factual reasoning founded in reality and not on some book written thousands of years ago by a people who would view a wheelbarrow as a shining example of modern technology.

  • Jessica

    If the old testement is supplemented with the new and supercedes then what about this scripture that state all animals are good if given with thanksgiving? 1st Timothy 4:4.
    I will continue to eat my shrimp. Plus We were set free from bondage by Jesus Christ son of the One and Only God which no one gets to except through Christ. He came to give us life and life more abundantly. He freed us from everything once and for all. People need to read their bibles more better and pray for enlightenment and receive correction when needed. When I see more of the whole picture I will move not just jump at someones statement. Also Im in medicine and never have we seen parasites in our patients. No evidence in blood or tissues Pathologist or Surgeon have ever talked about how infested we are with parasites that caused this cancer. The truth is that we get cancers by viruses that weaken our bodies. Low immunity activates the dormant virus to take over making cancers. Elderly are more prone when immunity weakened. Please get it right Christians and I am one also.

  • http://AddaURLtothiscomment wanda

    “THE SCRIPTURE NOT TO CALL ANYTHING UNCLEAN” WAS NOT REFERRING TO FOOD BUT TO PEOPLE, FOR THE LORD WAS ABOUT TO COMMISSION PETER TO GO TO THE “GENTILES” WHICH THEY CONSIDERED UNCLEAN.

  • http://AddaURLtothiscomment WANDA

    ITS AMAZING HOW VEHEMENTLY SOME WILL DEFEND HABITS THAT EVEN MEDICAL DOCTORS WILL WARN US ABOUT ONLY AFTER DISEASE HAS TAKEN HOLD OF OUR BODIES. IF WE GET GOUT, THEY RECOMMEND WE STOP EATING RED MEATS AND OBESITY AND DIABETES THE MEDICAL STAFF WILL INTORDUCE EXERCISE AND MORE FRUTIS AND VEGETABLES.

    HOW MUCH BETTER TO STUDY THE WORD AND FOLLOW GOD’S PLAN OF PREVENTION RATHER THAN SEEKING INTERVENTION AFTER DISEASE HAS SET IN.

    GREAT WORK PASTOR JOEL – KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

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