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Women Unashamed of Their Abortions

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Of course, no one is proud of her abortion. But Ms. magazine is collecting the stories and signatures of more than 5000 women who’ve had abortions and are not ashamed.



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evolver

posted October 5, 2006 at 1:27 pm


Something’s popularity does not make it right.



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big annie

posted October 5, 2006 at 4:46 pm


I signed the petition and am not ashamed of my abortion.I do feel fortunate that the abortion did not create a financial hardship and that my husband supported me and that I didn’t have to resort to some back-alley abortionist or be forced to self-abort. A woman truly determined to abort, as I was, will do it whether or not abortions are legal. Just look at the statistics for countries where abortion is illegal….they are the highest in the world. People who think that abortions will stop because they are illegal are delusional and frankly, underestimate strong and determined women.



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gina

posted October 5, 2006 at 9:38 pm


while i do not support abortion in any case, i do understand what you are saying big annie,for me it is the same as prostitution or drug use (at least in this way) that while i may not agree with it, i dont think it should be illegal, b/c at least when something is lawful there can be government enforced regulations that make it safer for those involved. while i would not support anyone having an abortion, i would rather them be able to go to a professional and get it than in an abandoned building or alleyway (or try to self abort).



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Iris Alantiel

posted October 5, 2006 at 9:39 pm


I’m not against a show of support for abortion, but there’s no way to verify that the women who are signing the petition have actually had abortions, or even actually exist. This isn’t going to convince anybody who doesn’t want to be convinced already.



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:)

posted October 6, 2006 at 12:24 am


Personally, I think it is a sad article…Not only with the loss of life that comes from abortions but those who believed it was either the baby or the job and one of them had to go so they could make it. I really think that they should be more support for women so they dont have to make that choice. I think of neo-natal care units that house the “wanted” children and the biomedical bags that hold the “unwanted”, the only difference is the “antedness”and the floor that you are on. I felt bad for the lady who talked about physological trauma and struggle she had from aborting her son because he might have Down’s syndrome. I was talking to someone earlier whose mother was told she should abort due to possible difficulties and she would have missed out on a promising journalism student in college.



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Johanna

posted October 6, 2006 at 4:43 am


Can we take Down Syndrome off the list of socially acceptable reasons to terminate a pregnancy? How is that we as a society are so clear and comfortable that a prenatal diagnosis of Down Syndrome is short-hand for termination?Many people are misled into thinking that a diagnosis of Down Syndrome is a death sentence for the child or the family. This is simply not the case. My son, who has Down Syndrome, has an IQ of 102 is bright, gregarious, outgoing, and there is no better teacher of compassion and beauty. And, for those who believe that somehow they are not the “super mom” that I am; that somehow I can do this, but you never could please know I am no different than any other mother. Each day, I put one foot in front of the other, am fiercely devoted to my child and creating opportunities for him. I just have the extra duty of making the world realize their dated beliefs (like lazily using the “R” word or believing in segregated educations) about his disability. It’s October, Down Syndrome awareness month; why not challenge your beliefs about Down Syndrome? It s ok to admit you don t know hey, I had to have a child with Down Syndrome before I knew. Here are some ideas: 1) Learn more about it: http://www.ndss.org/ http://www.ndsccenter.org/ http://www.nads.org/ http://www.unomas21.com/ 2) Make friends with someone who has Down Syndrome: http://www.bestbuddies.org/site/c.ljJ0J8MNIsE/b.1162355/k.BF9F/Intro.htm 3) Learn more about individuals who have Down Syndrome: http://users.psln.com/sharing/Michael/ http://www.sujeet.com/ http://homepage.ntlworld.com/crackpots/DAN%20SMITH/Ups_of_Downes.htm http://www.karengaffneyfoundation.com/academics.shtml http://www.bernadetteresha.com/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=%2Fnews%2F2003%2F09%2F14%2Fnart14.xml http://www.disabilityworld.org/06-08_03/il/down.shtml http://www.mouthmag.com/issues/58/eleanorstory.htm#TOP http://www.mct.ne.jp/users/ayaiwamo7/My%20speech%20in%20Singapole.htm 4) Check out your local Buddy Walk: http://www.buddywalk.org/ Or Special Olympic event: http://www.specialolympics.org/ Or a Very Special Arts event: http://www.vsarts.org/ 5) Vow to stop using the “R” word and get others to do the same: http://www.jennaglatzer.com/pledge_to_stop_the_word_retard.htm http://teenink.com/Past/2003/October/17061.html Use People First Language: http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art33981.asp 6) Contribute to improving the lives of individuals with Down Syndrome: http://dsresearch.stanford.edu/education/ 7) Help advocate for people who have Down Syndrome. Tell your elected officials to fund early intervention programs, fund education, help create housing, transportation and employment opportunities: http://www.tash.org/index.html http://capwiz.com/nacdd/home/ http://www.ucp.org/index.cfm 8) Read some beautiful articles: http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/07/18/1090089020447.html?oneclick=true http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/09/27/1064083207759.html http://www.dsansw.org.au/media/PressClippings.html It s ok to not know but, please, let s rethink our ideas about the worth of people with Down Syndrome.



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Cully

posted October 9, 2006 at 2:26 pm


evolver, do you really believe that women have abortions because they are somehow “popular”? An abortion is a death in the family. To have a child is the nearest thing to a woman’s heart, and the loss of that child – No Matter How It Happens – stays with a woman for the rest of her days. Even if she has 10 kids the one she lost will always be remembered.



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daria

posted October 10, 2006 at 9:55 pm


Iris said: “…but there’s no way to verify that the women who are signing the petition have actually had abortions, or even actually exist. From the linked article: “… Ms. staffers called the women who signed the petition to verify their information and be sure they were willing to have their names in print.”The intention behind this petition is not to convince the opposition, but to protect a woman’s right to safe and legal abortion. I believe in a woman’s right to choose AND I found this article (on newstands today, 10/10) dispiriting. There is nothing celebratory in the loss of life and less still in having to defend a difficult choice. For MS to resort to such in-your-face tactics is a 33-year throwback to Roe v. Wade. How sad for all of us, repeating history all over again.



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