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A Water ‘Cure’ for Fibromyalgia

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Yesterday a CM reader mentioned the debilitating pain and suffering of fibromyalgia. I’m aware of this disease because until recently my older sister has been under the cloud of it for four years–immersed in pain, aggravation, and worry. “If I have to live in this body for the rest of my life,” she once said at the height of the illness, “I don’t want to live very long.” After trying myriad conventional and alternative methods of healing and pain management, a few months ago she tested the water-drinking therapy of Fereydoon Batmanghelidj, M.D. and, surprisingly, found her symptoms ease slightly.

Dr. B.’s most noted book, which I’ve recommended here before, is called
“Water: For Health, for Healing, for Life: You’re Not Sick, You’re Thirsty!”. His website contains helpful information–but please read the book first. I’m not comfortable with the idea of you drinking eight to ten glasses of water a day without following his specific instructions.

Unfortunately, Dr. B. died of pneumonia in his seventies, and like many people with good ideas, he set himself up for criticism by zealously claiming that virtually every disease known to man, birds, and monkeys (almost) was affiliated with chronic dehydration. Here’s a link to his interview on how hydration can relieve chronic allergies. It of course begs the question: Why didn’t his water habit let him live longer? I guess the lesson is that nothing cures everybody all of the time (no, Abe Lincoln didn’t say exactly that).

But the water cure is certainly worth a try, especially with the support of fellow drinkers available by phone through the website. After eight steady months of drinking eight to ten glasses of water a day, and detoxing with a recommended amount of sea salt, my sister reports that she has cut her pain medication from six pills to four and sometimes goes hours without thinking about fibromyalgia. That, as sufferers know, is progress. She also says that her skin glows and she’s sleeping better; she looks forward to cutting her meds further.

Drinking ample quantities of water is good for everyone, even the healthy. But pass this humble tip along to those you feel might most benefit from it!

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Glennis MacDonald

posted May 18, 2006 at 6:02 pm

I too have suffered from Fibromyalgia for many years and also from Hep C. I consumed so many different pills and I suffered from many side effects from the various medications. Many of those medications made me thirstly like never before, while others made me fall into deep depressions. Yet I still suffered from the pain. Finally I went off most medications. I now take only 1.5 pills a day. Nutrition was a big issue for me as I have a small appetite and could no more swallow another pill even it was vitamin, which I needed. Body pain lives in a acidic body (cancer cannot grow in an alkaline body but does in an acidic body) It’s all about you PH Balance which you can test with your saliva with PH Hydrion Papers from the health food store. I was full of acid and searched and found a wonderfully amazing product by Dr. Earl Mindell of the Vitamin Bible fame. Himalayan Goji Juice, can help balance your body PH balance and is a great tasting whole food drink, which I use instead of a wack of vitamins. The Goji Berry has been researched for 10 years and is having great results with a variety of health issues, but for me it releaved body inflammation. Within days I was sleeping through the night which had huge positive results on my body. In the last six months the results have compounded and I now have energy when I wake up and can even work at a part time job. I also drink a green drink every morning and I believe that the Himilayan Crystallized Salt has helped me as well. Tell your sister to go to the web page and read up on what Goji can do for her Fibromyalgia. I was so amazed with the results as I had actually given up on feeling better until I was given a Bottle of Dr. Mindells Goji ‘s Juice. My entire family is now on it as it has everything my cupboard of vitamins held only all in one easy 2 ounce drink. Even my two granddaughters ask for it every day cuz it tastes so great. Best of luck to your sister. Regards Glennis MacDonald>

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posted May 18, 2006 at 6:42 pm

It’s remarkable that you mention goji berries. I’m writing an item about them now and will have it posted soon! Thanks. –CM>

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posted May 19, 2006 at 3:10 pm

A woman, in Naperville, IL, opened up a gourmet chocolate shop, and swears by eating 1 ounce on dark chocolate each day. All of her horrible fibro symptoms miraculously went away! And she wants others to know the health benefits of eating pure chocolate on a daily basis. It’s a really neat store too!!>

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posted May 19, 2006 at 5:30 pm

I found the interview very interesting, but I have difficulties whenever ANYBODY says “this will cure everything”. We are all unique, and our illnesses and cures for them will be different. There is also published research on the effects of overhydrating our systems. Please remember to do your research and find out what works for YOU.>

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Brian J. Peck

posted May 20, 2006 at 12:48 am

Fibromyalgia is one of a dozen or more words or phrases that describe this “disease”. Known as stiff lamb disease or white muscle disease it is said to be the adult onset of Muscular Dystrophy. Fibromyalgia is said to be a multiple deficiency disease caused by the high intake of fried foods and vegetable oils (margarine, cooking oils and salad dressings) and deficiencies of Selenium, Vitamin E and sulfer amino acids(methionine,mysteine,cystene). The overuse of these trans fats result in free radical damage to skeletal muscle and a relative deficiency of the above named items. This results in the replacement of muscle fibers with nonfunctional connective tissue causing pain and fatigue of the skeletal muscles. I have suffered from Fibromyalgia and Osteoarthritis for more than 20 years. The past 5 years unable to work. I was on all kinds of medications. Four(4) morphine a day just to take my pain level from an 8 to a 7 on the pain scale. I have spent those 20 plus years researching medical subjects. The past 5 intensely researching as MD’s and Pharm D’s nearly killed me more than once. I have been reading the writings of an ND since the 80’s. The past 5 years I added an MD who doesn’t adhere to the traditional paridigm. Both have educated me and I continue to read their writings. Less than a year ago I added a 3rd internationally known ND & DVM to my list of doctors who’s teachings interested me. I now refer to them to friends as the Trinity of health. Since I discovered the 3rd doctor I began listening to him speak on health and started reading his many books. January 14, 2006 I started on a program of nutritional healing. In just over 90 days I eliminated all drugs. No Asthma, no ED, no GERD, no HBP, no pain medication. All gone and replaced with proper nutrition and a few supplements. NO SALES PITCH! Just the truth. As you noticed I never once mentioned the doctors or the products. I have since talked to others with Fibro and they were helped by the regime as well. There is no cult or psycho babble here. If your sister really has Fibro then you e-mail me and I’ll share the specifics. If she improves like I did please step up to the plate and share it. Those folks who have made an industry of this and many other diseases close the doors and the ears. They prefer to perpetuate the lies and medical dogmas. It’s not financially beneficial for them to tear down the businesses they have built that feed on the suffering of others. So I’ll wait for your e-mail, watch if this gets printed and see if you block me from sharing at a future date. I hope you are one of the few that will listen and not shut the door. Save your sister from the pain she is in.>

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deborah hart

posted May 20, 2006 at 10:42 pm

HI I am interested, I take lots of meds. have some relatively pain free days from herinated discs, fibro, osteo, gerd, depression, etc, – much stress and traumatic injuries from my life. drining water is ridiculous, that person must have had a placebo cure, – i am interesrd in what helped you. thank you for sending me the information. i am always in some level of ache pain, depression or sleeplessness. Deborah and best of luck to you>

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deborah hart

posted May 21, 2006 at 2:33 am

could you share with me what has worked for you , Brian, thank you.>

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posted May 22, 2006 at 1:26 am

Brian I have suffered from fibromyalgia for 30 years. My daughter also has the disease. Please send me the specific aides to which you refer. Patti>

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Brian J. Peck

posted May 22, 2006 at 6:18 pm

CONCERNING SPECIFICS…of my continued healing from Fibromyalgia and Osteoarthritis. I am waiting for a response from AMY CUNNINGHAM. Be patient as I consider a way to relate this information without endangering myself or my ability to post here in the future. The key is to remove the offending sources from the diet and input the items in the diet that either do not exist or are insufficient in quantity. My previous post is a start but far from the whole story. Remove or reduce as many of the following from your diet as possible: No margarine or cooking oil, No fried foods, No burnt animal fats, No carbonated beverages, No Sugar, No meat well done, No alcohol, and No caffeine. Cleanse the colon on a regular basis. Utilize enzymes prior to food intake and supplement with probiotics. All of which promote proper digestion and absorption of foods/supplements. Insure your supplement intake includes the 90 ESSENTIAL NUTRIENTS. I use as many liquids as possible to increase absorbability. Liquid PLANT DERIVED COLLOIDAL MINERALS, a liquid multivitamin and 2 types of Omega 3, both plant and fish derived. I take a liquid calcium and magnesium supplement, a glucosamine and chondroiton blend, selenium, Cetyl Myristoleate complex, Vitamin E and Vitamin C. Thats as close as I can get without using product names or identifying company names. When I am sure about posting my e-mail address I will. Need to make sure I follow the rules and don’t disrespect these kind folks. Watch for future post for personal contact information. My words…”As I have been healed so must I assist others in healing themselves”. Yours in Health and Light. Brian>

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Brian J. Peck

posted May 22, 2006 at 7:10 pm

As for Amy’s sisters improvment… you need only to look at what little Amy told us to get an idea what is part of the key to this whole equation. Ask yourself whats so great about Sea Salt and water? Well, water is important for proper cell function as well helping to carry away toxins from the body. Yes, 8-10 glasses of water with nothing added is what everyone should do to help improve there health. But hmmm…what about this salt thing you ask? Again, Amy’s sister is only touching the tip of what she really needs by using Sea Salt. You see, Sea Salt is nothing more than whats left after sea water has evaporated. What so special abou that you ask? Well, Sea Salt has lots of MINERALS in it and MINERALS is one of the keys to the puzzle. Judging by what little information I have been given about what Amy’s sister is doing, and how long she has been suffering I’ll make a educated laypersons opinion. I’m willing to bet if Amy’s sister did what I am doing she would be one of those few that see’s miraculous results in a few weeks. For my own ongoing research of Fibro folk I would be curious to know if she 1.) Has any dental amalgam fillings, has had a large number of vaccinations, or consumes on a regular basis large predatory fish (tuna,sword,shark,etc.)? Research has shown biopsies from the hearts of Fibropatients often show mercury exposure. 2.) Has been physically active causing sweating? When you sweat you loose more than water. You loose a soup of minerals from you body. My personal experience…these two things frequently show up in the profiles of Fibro patients. When you increase the minerals they have a tendancy to detoxify the system and of course the water allows the toxins to be removed from your body. Just a lay persons opinion. A lay person who has lived and breathed this beast for many years and is getting better all the time. Hmmm, maybe there is a book in there somewhere.>

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kathryn janus

posted May 22, 2006 at 7:44 pm

I’m Amy’s sister and I have had fibromyalgia for about five years. I have taken more drugs than I can even remember – antidepressants, muscle relaxors, anti-inflammatories. I have tried homeopathy, osteopathy, accupuncture, yoga, meditation, a chinese body work (the name escapes me). For a year and four months, I was taking high doses of guaifanisen and avoiding all skin products with salicylates. That was a complete flop, The ONLY thing that has made any difference is this water cure. I drink about 10 8 oz. glasses a day plus 1/2 teaspoon of sea salt. I have eliminated all caffeine and take Omega 3’s. All of this is in the book that Amy mentioned in her blog. Am I “cured?” No. However, I have reduced my pain meds (Tramadol) by half and can go for hours without even thinking about fibromyalgia. Before, it was on my mind almost constantly. My mood is much better as well as my sleep, which was absolutley terrible before. I really know this is not placebo. I told my father’s housekeeper about it; she has had fibromyalgia for years and was on Percodan. She cannot believe how much better she is doing! I think those of of with this condition really need to stick together and pass along anything that works for us. Obviously, everyone is different. I was in contact with many people who swore by the guaifanisen – said it completely cured them. It did not work for me.>

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posted May 22, 2006 at 10:02 pm

Reading Chattering Mind opens up a whole new world for me. I especially appreciate the information that has been posted regarding fibromyalgia. My story is for the most part the same as anyone who suffers from it. I am receptive to any suggestions from people who have tried different things to help them feel better. I welcome feedback from Brian and Amy’s sister on specifics of their protocol, as well as others. Thank you, Amy, for this forum. Brian, Amy’s sister,, please email me at>

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kathryn janus

posted May 23, 2006 at 3:02 am

It’s Kathryn – Amy’s sister, again. One thing I didn’t mention is my experience at the start of the water cure. I threw myself into it from day one – 10 glasses of water and full amount of sea salt. By the third day, I really thought I had done something terrible to myself – I was in such horrible pain I could hardly walk. I was so frightened I called someone at the phone number on the website and they “talked me down” explaining that I was OVERDOING and had to take things at a slower pace, especially when it came to introducing the sea salt. So, I backed off the salt entirely and slowly, over a period of a few weeks, upped it to the full 1/2 teaspoon. Brian, I do have those old-fashioned fillings in my teeth but I don’t eat much fish and I’m a psychotherapist so I don’t work up much of a sweat on a daily basis! Over the last five years I have tried so many things and talked to so many people. One woman I spoke with actually takes the “date rape” drug to help her sleep. We all have our own journey with this dis-ease and I’m always interested to hear what works for others. If it “resonates” with me, then I give it a try. I did go out and get the Goji juice but it’s too soon to tell if that will help. My heart goes out to all of you. This has been one of the most challenging things that has ever happened to me. Take good care, all.>

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Brian J. Peck

posted May 23, 2006 at 4:34 pm

I check in periodically to view the posts as this subject is a very personal one. Kathryn I e-mailed your sis at belief net and she now has my e-mail address 2X. I too tried Guifanisen and and no luck. My NP at the time said her experience was about 1 in 4 get results. Remember I have been there done that for more than 20 years. I wanted everything to work and nothing did. DRUGS ARE NOT THE ANSWER. All drugs interfere with the body’s natural healing process. Give the body what it needs and it will heal itself more often than not. Each body is unique and each will heal at different rates. Each of us learns at a different rate and some will listen and some will not. I can only help those that are ready. I know now why I suffered for all those years. Not the causes but the reason. My reason for suffering, my reason for being on this earth is to share this message and to help others. James 2:8. Love thy neighbor as thyself and ye will do well. I can only share and pray someone else will listen. I have been blessed with this gift from God and I know it will be my lifes work to share it with others. Whatever choices any of you make I wish you well in your journey to healing. I know the final choice I made was the right one for me. Lifes full of choices. If the years fade and the list of failed attempts grows ever so long please remember these posts. NUTRITION, NUTRITION, NUTRITION. Take away the bad things and give the body what it need to heal itself. Pain is the body’s alarm for both physical and emotional problems. Don’t mask the pain with drugs. Eliminate the pain with physical and spiritual healing. Some with Fibro like symptoms might eliminate there physical pain by dealing with underlying emotional issues using techniques such as EFT or other therapies. Others may eliminate their Fibro like symptoms with something as simple as a shoe insert. Some may find eliminating a chronic viral infection relieves them of their Fibro like/ CFS symptoms. My belief and that of many others is true Fibromyalgia is that which was previously described. No matter what your belief the causes or cures are, everyone can benefit from proper nutrition. I wish you all the best. I am waiting for an answer from Amy as to wether it would be appropriate to post my e-mail. I do not want to be accused of solicitation. Amy has been kind enough to open this door and I don’t want it slammed shut. May God Bless all of you, he most certainly has me.>

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posted August 16, 2014 at 11:13 am

I do believe all the ideas you’ve introduced in your post.
They’re very convincing and will certainly work. Nonetheless, the posts
are too brief for beginners. May you please extend them a bit from next time?

Thank you for the post.

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