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Forget the Stars (Why I’m Over Astrology)

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Mercury is always in retrograde. It’s probably retrograding right now. At least it seems that way. While the fickle nature of the gray planet is an excellent justification for a bad hair day or a bad day at the office or simply a bad attitude, the whole astrology thing is getting tired. Or maybe it’s me that’s tired. You see, I’m a Sagittarius sun-Libra moon-Virgo rising believer in astrology, but I’m starting to lose faith.

I built my understanding of the stars on the bible of astrology, Bernard Fitzwalter’s “The Complete Sun Sign Guide” [currently out of print]. (Note: everyone seems to have his or her own version of an astrology bible, Bernard just happens to have written mine.) Handed to me by a new friend during the first week of my first year of college, the Guide led me through the complications of a Scorpio-Sagittarius love affair (he’s introverted and lusty, I’m easily bored and playful) and explained why a Virgo mother (mine) and Sagittarius daughter (me) will most likely never get along.

Take that book and add to it 10 years of skimming the weekly horoscope in my city’s local magazine and you’ve got a guaranteed recipe for astrological disaster. I’m convinced that I’ve allowed what now seems like nothing more than self-fulfilling prophecy to talk me out of signing important contracts, rearranging my home, and snuggling with my loved one. There have been weeks when my horoscope was accurate—times when I’ve looked up and asked, “how can she possibly know that I’ve been seeking out change and excitement?” or “yes, I am planning a distant trip,” but they do not outnumber the days that I’ve spent fighting a nagging worry that the astrologer’s bad news may actually come true.

According to Bernard, Sagittarius is ruled by Jupiter, which pushes me to seek out wider horizons. So I’m doing just that. Moving on past astrology. Onto brighter pastures. Maybe I’ll look into numerology.

Do you believe in astrology? Does your horoscope affect your day?



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daria

posted March 31, 2006 at 8:14 pm


Do you believe in astrology? Does your horoscope affect your day? Years ago I loved to read my horoscope first thing in the morning. In less than five minutes I had my plan for the day. Couldn’t beat it. Then there was my monthly ritual — reading every fashion mag’s Horoscope (for the MONTH yet!) — over the phone with my best friend in NYC. Only problem was that they were no sooner read than forgotten. And I don’t remember feeling inspired to act, just anxious. At some point I stumbled upon what I was always looking for but never found in a horoscope: a prescription for living daily, regardless of circumstances. I found/was led to these words by Henri Nouwen: “When God is my only concern, when God is the center of my interest… then there is no basis for anxiety … Jesus is very clear about it…you canot be for him and against him, you cannot follow him just a little bit. Everything or nothing.” These words – and the actions they inspire – do for me what a horoscope never could. So I guess my answers to your questions are No and No. :)>



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Krista

posted March 31, 2006 at 10:22 pm


Yes to the first question and no to the second. If the only astrology I ever knew or read about was the sun sign astrology in the daily or monthly horoscope sections of newspapers and magazines, I would have given up on it a long time ago. There is so much more to astrology than that. It seems sun sign astrology is nothing more than a prostitution of real astrology. It’s quick, easy and makes people alot of money. To draw out and interpret an astrological chart requires much knowledge, time and effort. One’s sun sign is merely a predictor of personality characteristics and I would never base what I do during any given day on that. There is way more to us than our personality. Keeping up with transits and progressive charts can be helpful if you want a general idea of what kinds of energy you’ll be dealing with that day. But if you put too much emphasis on it, what do you think happens to free will? Natal astrology is by far the only astrology a person needs. It will help you know yourself on an extraordinarily deep level and once you know yourself, it doesn’t matter what all the planets are doing from one day to the next. Anything else does nothing more than interfere with your free will and that just seems like bad news to me. Down with the daily horoscope!!!>



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jen

posted April 1, 2006 at 6:08 am


What I really think, I’ve found certainly opens me up to a lot of “stuff” that I don’t really want to be open to from those with adamantly opposing opinions…however, the subject intrigues me and I’ll say a little of my opinion here and hopefully avoid serious consequences. I respect daria’s view and krista also makes valid points. Mass produced astrology I believe is more of a fortune cookie attempt at something potentially much greater. Clearly the God of My Understanding has in his infinite wisdom created the moon to control the tides, our bodies also consist highly of water, so why would the planetary and lunar movements not be involved in God’s great plan? Bibically the wise men were led to the Christ child by a star, these were obviously very educated men in the field. So I believe for true astrology one must seek the truly knowledgeable as Krista indicated. I tend to agree with Edgar Caycee’s views on astrology, he was a very devout Christian those who knew him best claimed and his views were, correct me if I’m wrong, that astrology basically gives us an overview of conditions in place that make certain behaviors and circumstances more likely, but that it should be a tool for “awareness” that these conditions are in place, but that free-will certainly can override those tendencies. I’m certain I have grossly paraphrased Mr. Caycee’s beliefs, so please double ck me on that, however, this opinion works for me as I don’t feel in conflict to my spiritual beliefs at all, it merely heightens my awe and reverence for God’s magnificence and beauty. I don’t put faith in “the stars” above faith in my Creator or Son. But see it as part of His Divine perfect order. I believe those wise men probably weren’t high-minded at “their skills in reading the stars” but more in awe and reverence that God had maybe “allowed” them the wonderful gift of glimpsing just a small portion of understanding of His Divine Order of the Universe. I believe it’s in Ecclesiastes where it tells us that “we will never know the mysteries of God from beginning to end” and to me that means that Scientists, Astrologists/Astronomy, all of those things are allowed to see and understand small portions of the Great Mystery, but never fully. I think some are “aware” of the origins of their knowledge and have the proper spirit, and some do not. I personally would want an astrologist who had similar spiritual beliefs as myself and had what I felt (or discerned) to be the proper spirit, however, as I personally believe that is where the danger comes in…the spirit of the person and what their motives and intentions are regarding the knowledge.>



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Aleshia

posted April 2, 2006 at 9:53 am


How about less intensity and more of the Sagitarian playfulness? I love to read my horiscope but instead of reading it at the start of the day, I read it at the end of the day. I like to see if what they said really matches up to the actual events/feelings of the day. It is the fun without the anxiety!>



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Elle

posted April 2, 2006 at 11:19 pm


I used to be a complete skeptic so I reasearched and found it to be amazingly accurate. I continue to be skeptical doing charts for people yet not reading them before they give me their percentage-wise assessment. Only a few over the years have given a less than 75% accuracy rating. (then I’ll read theirs) What really amazes them is when I give them a third person’s chart so they can see the difference and its a known quanity. Hmmm. I’m in, though I dont’ read my horoscope daily unless I’m planning an event in advance.>



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cynthia

posted April 3, 2006 at 12:08 am


To ne it is just away for the people who write about the horscopes to get people to read.. i am a sag, I gave up on them along time ago,, god is my advisor.. if god wanted us to know what life would be about everyday, he who have given us all the information for us at the time of birth..,, I believe everyone of us has a different dna, even tho we were born under different signs.>



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Joie

posted April 3, 2006 at 3:22 pm


I receive the Beliefnet ‘scopes and find my short forecasts to be amazingly parallel or informative ‘after the fact’ when a day has just been an unexpected struggle. I don’t live my life by what I read, but use the offering as a tool to understand some of the invisible vibes lurking in the ethers! I also do not trust advisors who give negative predictions or dire consequences, creating fear or doubt. so the level of trust in the one providing the information is key.>



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Christine

posted April 3, 2006 at 7:48 pm


Astrology originates among the pagan worshipers of ancient Babylon. God s prophet Isaiah wrote of Babylon s worshipers of the heavens, the lookers at the stars, those giving out knowledge at the new moons concerning the things that will come. From Babylon s earliest days, from its youth, the prophet showed, it had toiled with sorceries and astrological predictions. (Isa. 47:12, 13). Archaeological discoveries confirm the Bible as to how thoroughly Babylon was steeped in astrology. Check out the book “The Reports of the Magicians and Astrologers of Nineveh and Babylon in the British Museum.” Ancient Rome was also a thriving metropolis for astrology. The lower the Romans sank in religion and morals, says The Catholic Encyclopedia, the more astrology became entwined with all action and belief. There should not be found in you anyone . . . who employs divination, a practicer of magic or anyone who looks for omens or a sorcerer, or one who binds others with a spell or anyone who consults a spirit medium or a professional foreteller of events or anyone who inquires of the dead. For everybody doing these things is something detestable to Jehovah. Deut. 18:10-12. Why is God opposed to the foretelling of events by methods such as astrology? Because the one relying on it is not trusting in God or being guided by his inspired Word, of which the psalmist said: Your word is a lamp to my foot, and a light to my roadway. (Ps. 119:105).>



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Michele Parson

posted April 4, 2006 at 5:05 pm


I am a semi-believer in astrology. The personality seems to hit on but day to day seems always a day off or not accurate by way of being general enough to cover anyone. But I did find something very interesting in the book “The Hidden Messages in Water”. The author discovered that certain emotions resonate at the same frequencies as certain metals. Then another scientist discovered that depending on the planets positions, it effects what metals will be readily absorbed out of solution. So perhaps the planets effect the metals in our system and these resonate with certain emotions. It’s a very interesting concept to think about.>



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Nina

posted April 4, 2006 at 11:43 pm


Now check them “the day after” to determine fact/fiction. Accuracy? About 50/50.>



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Ella

posted April 5, 2006 at 12:32 am


I think it’s fun and interesting.. Tells you things about yourself that noone would be able to tell you. And it tells you interesting things about yourself. Sometimes it’s interesting to read daily horoscopes, but that’s it. I don’t really like getting into too much because then it becomes like a self fulfilling propehcy and you don’t see things clearly. Other times I don’t like knowing what other peoples starsigns are because then you don’t relate to them as a person but as someone according to their starsign. EG: I’m aquarius but alot of the time I keep to myself. When ever I see a leo I know that they’re opposite mine and so I would also know that what I lack is what they’re good at. So I’m looking at them according to an image and not like a human being with feelings and a unique personality…. It lands me in hot water sometimes…. I guess I like it because it’s a fun way of relating to people but not too good to really get into it unless you really understand all the details..>



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willsea

posted April 5, 2006 at 3:47 pm


Astrology, taken from the broad view, can create metaphors that lead us back to the self. It’s not about “accuracy” but the clues that we get about who we are. Just like the song on the radio, the vanity plate, or the church saying of the week on their sign, we get clues from the Infinite at just the right time to help direct our inward journey. And I am open to these clues everywhere, because the Beloved (aka God) is always speaking. And when God speaks, it’s always exactly what I need to hear.>



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reviews of Alli

posted August 21, 2014 at 2:32 pm


Good post. I learn something new and challenging on blogs I stumbleupon on a daily basis.
It’s always helpful to read through articles from other writers and practice something from their web sites.



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