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Social Values, Social Wellness: What Works?

posted by Gus diZerega

I just came across a study of the broader impact of the deep cultural split between “red” and “blue” ways of living in the US.  I think it adds to the evidence that Pagan spirituality is part of the leading edge in cultural and spiritual evolution in the United States.



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Cayce

posted March 9, 2012 at 7:24 am


wow Gus, that’s pretty clear. I’m sure it will be swept under the radar by any who are invested in the status quo. oh well, as a pagan in rural north georgia, I see this play out in the lives of my neighbors. it’s not easy being blue in the middle of all the red(necks). I still say a “prayer” for these same neighbors, I’d like to see all of us lifted higher to better lives.
thanks for making this study available, I wish it were required reading before anyone is allowed to vote.



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ladyimbrium

posted March 9, 2012 at 7:46 am


An excellent find, and one that could prove very useful to me in the near future. As heavily biased reports go, this is a good one. Thanks!



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Deborah Bender

posted March 9, 2012 at 4:57 pm


Without taking into account differences in family income, most of these statistical comparisons don’t mean much. Most of the red states are poorer than most of the blue states, and poor people everywhere have worse problems than rich people.

I bet if you were to compare a population of West Virginians with a population of Californians whose income level was the same in relation to the local cost of living, the rates of chronic disease, violence and mental problems would not be very different.

You could argue that blue states are poorer because of their cultural values, but West Virginia is poor because it is a colony for corporations that extract its resources.



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Sonneillon V.

posted March 10, 2012 at 8:53 pm


The one-sidedness of the answers give the impression of bias, but it’s well-cited.



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The_L

posted March 11, 2012 at 11:14 am


This is exactly what I have seen firsthand, as a child in rural Alabama and as an adult in one of the more liberal townships of southern Florida.

In Alabama, even in towns with a population under 10,000, everybody knows several people who were physically and/or sexually abused by their parents. Bear in mind, this is in an area where corporal punishment is more severe in general than it is in other places. We’re talking about abuse by the standards of people who spank as a FIRST resort.

In Florida, the majority of child-abuse stories are in conservative areas, like Jacksonville, and in the…unique…areas around Orlando. Most stories of violence in my county tend to be against adults. Stories of violence from elsewhere in the state tend to be against children.



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Sorn

posted March 11, 2012 at 1:53 pm


Gods, that’s disturbing, particularly the section about abuse within the family. The Party of Family Values doesn’t seem to live up to its rhetoric there any better than it does as the Party of Small Government. Thank you for the link.

(Tangentially related: My wife and I have still been talking about your Pantheacon controversy post occasionally, and it occurred to me that the reframing of the discussion of economics as a discussion of Evil Socialism versus Benevolent Capitalism moves it into a question of values as well, making it difficult even to compromise on economics. Now the part of me prone to entertaining conspiracy theories is wondering how deliberate that may be . . .)



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