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Conservative values in Action

posted by Gus diZerega

It’s quite a video


Democracy makes minority religions such as ours relatively safe, but it makes one demand on all citizens: that they be willing to listen to reasons for views different from their own and attempt to understand them.

The lunatics that call themselves conservatives these days are utterly incapable of being responsible democratic citizens because it is inconceivable to them that anyone with ideas different from their own can be a good person or loyal to this country.  Digby got it just right

I still can’t wrap my mind around the fact that tea partiers are having fits over a health care plan which they claim is a usurpation of our constitutional rights, but stripping Americans of their citizenship when someone suspects them of a crime is worth considering. Torture and indefinite imprisonment are perfectly in keeping with our founding principles but asking people to fill out a census form is Big Brother in action. Profiling anyone who some beat cop thinks might not be a citizen is a-ok, but making it difficult for terrorist suspects to buy a gun is an assault on the constitution. What the hell?

I am more and more inclined to think that Ram Dass might have had it right when someone asked him years ago whether the world was getting better.  He thought for a while and answered that “People enter the fourth grade and people graduate from the fourth grade.  But there is always a fourth grade.”  
If he is right, the entering class is a most unimpressive lot, and I suspect they will be held back for quite a while.
More and more I find sanity in nature, and think this country has gone bonkers.  If only I didn’t like the classroom so much…


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Marlon Hartshorn

posted May 5, 2010 at 6:25 pm


That’s the most disturbing video I’ve ever seen in my life. I’m angry, hurt and saddened deeply by the plight this family had to endure. With a video though I’m sure a good lawyer could build a case for them. That is a disgrace and an over-use of power. You’d think that’d be reserved only for the high-end criminals of our time, not a suburban family. Very tragic and I won’t ever view the police the same again.



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ladyhawke4

posted May 6, 2010 at 7:59 pm


Gus, The more prevalent the insanity, the important the voice of reason and the guiding voice. As long as there are classrooms and individuals willing to (wo)man them, there is hope.



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Snoozepossum

posted May 7, 2010 at 12:41 pm


Not going to watch the video; having had my house trampled and my pets threatened by cops after calling in a complaint that a neighbor fired a shot into my living room wall can fill in the blanks well enough, and if I do I’ll just be in the mood to gut people like fish for at least an hour. Thanx for bringing it to people’s attention, though – as I mentioned on another blog just a few days ago, laws and rights are only as good as the people enforcing them.
I agree with Ladyhawke about education to encourage the voice of reason; will add to that the need for authority to be bound by transparency and the cultivation of a social distaste for apathy.
Beer & Cookies to Digby.



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