What do you believe?
JRT
11/11/2003 11:01:13 PM
I just wonder what the archaeologists have said about these 'fallen idols'and how are they dated and just when were they toppled and by whom. I have read both infancy gospels and regard them as childish fiction and not worthy of serious consideration.
JRT
11/11/2003 11:01:00 PM
I just wonder what the archaeologists have said about these 'fallen idols'and how are they dated and just when were they toppled and by whom. I have read both infancy gospels and regard them as childish fiction and not worthy of serious consideration.
JRT
11/11/2003 11:00:30 PM
I just wonder what the archaeologists have said about these 'fallen idols'and how are they dated and just when were they toppled and by whom. I have read both infancy gospels and regard them as childish fiction and not worthy of serious consideration.
JRT
11/11/2003 10:59:39 PM
I just wonder what the archaeologists have said about these 'fallen idols'and how are they dated and just when were they toppled and by whom. I have read both infancy gospels and regard them as childish fiction and not worthy of serious consideration.
livindesert
infant gosples are symbolic and probly were embelished to make them seem cooler to the pagans.As for the "hierarchical church " Im not catholic or orthodox but they had a hard challange setting up the original church and unifying it.
At the moment more old text are reconized by the catholic church than stand alone churches.
The catholic teachings i read from
also say you have a direct link with G_D the "hierarchicals" act as middle man and as experts to settle agreement so you have people focusing on stuff other than whos interpitation of "name your issue " is right kind of like the supream court in the U.S.
11/11/2003 12:53:20 PM
you know by reading them that theinfant gosples are symbolic and probly were embelished to make them seem cooler to the pagans.As for the "hierarchical church " Im not catholic or orthodox but they had a hard challange setting up the original church and unifying it.
At the moment more old text are reconized by the catholic church than stand alone churches.
The catholic teachings i read from
also say you have a direct link with G_D the "hierarchicals" act as middle man and as experts to settle agreement so you have people focusing on stuff other than whos interpitation of "name your issue " is right kind of like the supream court in the U.S.
paulpthomps
11/11/2003 12:50:07 PM
I would not deny that Jesus did or could do this. Afterall, He is God! That would be awesome if He did do it. If anything it is an awesome story that has a profound meaning. Everything bows to Jesus Christ!
lucilius
Just leave out "infancy" and "infant," and you've got every miracle story in the Bible.
11/11/2003 12:16:33 PM
B-baggins: "The infancy gospels are nothing more than early Christians making up stuff about the infant Christ so he'd be as "cool" as the other gods around them ... "Just leave out "infancy" and "infant," and you've got every miracle story in the Bible.
cacciato
11/11/2003 11:31:18 AM
the apocrypha are no less valuable than the synoptic gospels in searching for spiritual growth. After all it was the hierarchical church that 'decided' which books to include and then burned those they did not agree with. Books that supported a more direct link with god thru jesus' teachings and not the bishop-priest-layperson intervenor model were excluded. As for the whole Herod incident there is no support for the biblical massacre of the innocents. It is clearly a metaphorical analogy to Moses and the emergence from Egypt in the Old testament and not NOT a histroical event.
b-baggins
11/11/2003 11:30:21 AM
The infancy gospels are nothing more than early Christians making up stuff about the infant Christ so he'd be as "cool" as the other gods around them who were doing mischevous miracles as infants and children. It's nothing more complicated than that.
livindesert
As for toddler jesus i think that it is more along the lines of symbolism.
As for the bible itself it is actually very historically acurate.
my own journey in christianity began
with hobby the study of archeology
and history(my favorite subject in high school)i found that many archeological sites ancient customs understanding of languages and other stuff that we would not have know about if we did not have the bible.
11/11/2003 8:58:22 AM
The Bible has parables and has factual events anyone can pretty much tell you that it is up to the readed to decipher them.As for toddler jesus i think that it is more along the lines of symbolism.
As for the bible itself it is actually very historically acurate.
my own journey in christianity began
with hobby the study of archeology
and history(my favorite subject in high school)i found that many archeological sites ancient customs understanding of languages and other stuff that we would not have know about if we did not have the bible.
abarenboshogunvi
:-)
11/11/2003 2:37:37 AM
The little tyke sounds a lot like Wyatt, Piper's son on the WB TV show "Charmed".:-)
thefish
The more I understand the stories of the Bible and other ancient writings in symbolic form rather than literal, the more I am amazed. Perhaps the lesson here is not whether the "actual" event happened, but what does the symbolism of the story relate?
This hit home with me, because it was not until I "opened my mind" to the possibility that the stories of the Bible are not meant to be taken literally, by symbolically, that I finally understood. Now I'm free. I have "broken free" from the "idolic" god of my youth, and have opened my mind to the beautiful truth of just being. The idols of Hell and Heaven were dipensed of with a simple act of changing my mind. I used my mind and my intelligence, that God created me with, to live in the "real world" and I've never been happier.
Peace and Love to ALL
11/10/2003 8:55:15 PM
"Jesus knocked all of these idols down with his mind."The more I understand the stories of the Bible and other ancient writings in symbolic form rather than literal, the more I am amazed. Perhaps the lesson here is not whether the "actual" event happened, but what does the symbolism of the story relate?
This hit home with me, because it was not until I "opened my mind" to the possibility that the stories of the Bible are not meant to be taken literally, by symbolically, that I finally understood. Now I'm free. I have "broken free" from the "idolic" god of my youth, and have opened my mind to the beautiful truth of just being. The idols of Hell and Heaven were dipensed of with a simple act of changing my mind. I used my mind and my intelligence, that God created me with, to live in the "real world" and I've never been happier.
Peace and Love to ALL